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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:00 am

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In post 318, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 310, Chip Butty wrote:And 'i keep forgetting to log in' pings me a bit too, though maybe the dude is busy irl.
Just a quick pop-in on my break, and this caught my eye.
Morality has MULTIPLE alts, this is one of them - I bet that he meant he forgets to log on to this SPECIFIC account.. :]

I'm past the point of scumreading him for his D1s, because he is always very passive early, and usually solves the game D2/D3.
So he is scum if his content isn't top notch tomorrow..? :lol:

Fair enough, I guess... :neutral:
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:05 am

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Vote Count 1.5



Chip Butty (3): necro, UnaBombaH, CheekyTeeky
Rhah (2): UC Voyager, Zulfy
necro (1): Rhah
Zulfy (1): Morality
CheekyTeeky (1): Zulfy
ChaosOmega (1): Luca Blight
Luca Blight (1): ChaosOmega
UnaBombaH (1): wavemode
Morality (1): Chip Butty
acidphoenix (1): Vanderscamp


Not voting (0):


With 13 alive, it will take 7 to lynch.

Zulfy- V/LA until Saturday

Day 1's deadline is Tuesday, October 17, @ 3 PM EST (expired on 2017-10-17 15:00:00)
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:06 am

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In post 147, UC Voyager wrote:moving on

im having scum reads with Luca and Rhah. more rhah than Luca

im having townreads on necro still. as well as Zulfy, and a few others who i only know by avatar....
Why are Rhah and Luca scum?

Why are Zulfy and necro town?
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:14 am

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Zulfy: seems obsessed with Rhah and who doubtcasted who. Nothing else of substance.

Could you please summarise the case on Rhah, because it seems early to be tunnelling and I'm not seeing anything substantial coming out of this yet.
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:17 am

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Test
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:21 am

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In post 328, Chip Butty wrote:Zulfy: seems obsessed with Rhah and who doubtcasted who. Nothing else of substance.

Could you please summarise the case on Rhah, because it seems early to be tunnelling and I'm not seeing anything substantial coming out of this yet.
Hey.
Yea I'm tunneling Rhah, I feel more effective if I Focus on one thing at a time but plan on looking at the Luca stuff today.

Summary: He contradicts himself on his reason for ongoingly engaging CheekyTeeky. When confronted all he does is despair.
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:34 am

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Happy birthday, UnaH. Somehow Chip Butty has looked less townie.. Speaking of quote walls, how are UCV and necro invested enough into the game to give a fuck about them?
Zulfy wrote: Summary: He contradicts himself on his reason for ongoingly engaging CheekyTeeky. When confronted all he does is despair.
This is false though. If being accused of setting up mislynches and just shading isn't being doubtcasted a little then I don't know what is. I feel as if we'll be on to bigger and better things now though, like lynching necro who's probably mafia. So I don't know that it makes sense to continue pushing this thing now. Also your approach to me hasn't mentioned anything I've done that doesn't refer to CT, which is still a portion of my play.
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:35 am

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That wagon's kinda yikes, though. I think necro's a better flip today.
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:37 am

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Wavemode:

Lots of fluff, and naked reads. Seriously, what is it with this game and naked reads?
In post 123, wavemode wrote:That said, leaning town on UC, necro, Chip Butty atm

Why?


UNVOTE:
In post 231, wavemode wrote:VOTE: Unabombah
Why?

In post 260, wavemode wrote:I'd lynch Una or Vander at this point
Why?
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:45 am

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Half assed reaction testing
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:46 am

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In post 331, Rhah wrote:Somehow Chip Butty has looked less townie.
Okay, this time you really are doubtcasting without giving reasons. Got any? I mean, reasons for doubtcasting the guy who is systematically looking over the entire field and calling people our for not explaining their positions, while supplying reasons for his own positions? For the sake of my blood pressure, please don't say mybposts 'feel forced' lol. :roll:
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:47 am

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In post 334, Zulfy wrote:Half assed reaction testing
That's not even half-assed. That's quarter-assed.
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:53 am

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It's no-assed

If they don't want to react I don't care

Reasonably confident we hit scum on Una or Vander rn
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:00 am

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Chip Butty wrote: Okay, this time you really are doubtcasting without giving reasons. Got any? I mean, reasons for doubtcasting the guy who is systematically looking over the entire field and calling people our for not explaining their positions, while supplying reasons for his own positions? For the sake of my blood pressure, please don't say mybposts 'feel forced' lol. :roll:
Literally expressing a statement of doubt on my prior read on your slot(which I had a town read on) is doubtcasting? In the literal sense maybe but otherwise I don't think so. Please try something else cause this isn't a genuine statement. I didn't understand your progression on Morality (or where Una's response to you leaves your postiion on him, I know that your vote is still there) and I didn't like your recent few posts in addition to the one I just quoted.
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:01 am

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I think Luca is town here. Not only does he provide detailed reasoning for what he says, but i can follow his logic pretty much everywhere, and that is difficult to maintain as scum as the game drags on. Early days yet, but a good feeling about this slot.
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:04 am

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Then you've never played against good scum :P
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:13 am

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In post 338, Rhah wrote:
Chip Butty wrote: Okay, this time you really are doubtcasting without giving reasons. Got any? I mean, reasons for doubtcasting the guy who is systematically looking over the entire field and calling people our for not explaining their positions, while supplying reasons for his own positions? For the sake of my blood pressure, please don't say mybposts 'feel forced' lol. :roll:
Literally expressing a statement of doubt on my prior read on your slot(which I had a town read on) is doubtcasting? In the literal sense maybe but otherwise I don't think so. Please try something else cause this isn't a genuine statement. I didn't understand your progression on Morality (or where Una's response to you leaves your postiion on him, I know that your vote is still there) and I didn't like your recent few posts in addition to the one I just quoted.
See? There's the benefit of being specific. Now i can address your concerns in a meaningful way.

Yes i guess the Morality / Una thing was left a bit unclear. Basically Una said if Morality is town he'll supply quality content tomorrow, so i shrugged and thought okay let's see what he comes yp with tomorrow. Ideally I'd still like to hear from Morality himself if he remembers to log into his account. I'd especially like to hear why he let the necro inconsistency go so easily. He's not going anywhere. Can reassess tomorrow.
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:15 am

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What don't you like about my recent posts? I'm happy to field any specific questions about any of my posts or votes.

Also UNVOTE:

Thanks for reminding me...
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:21 am

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We might be using 'doubtcasting' in different ways. I thought it meant casting doubt on a player without giving reasons. Haven't seen the term before this game.
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:23 am

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I'm going to stop saying the word and then see if Zulfy magically townreads me. Should work.
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:50 am

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On the note of Necro, I didn’t really care. Pretty sure he’s town. It was more for seeing who would comment on it, because while I feel the reasoning behind “scum wouldn’t be that inconsistent” since that’s incredibly poor scum play if he flips scum, and I don’t think even first time player playing scum couldn’t figure that out.

If I am to assume that scum did in fact take the bait, I wouldn’t necessarily think it’s Chip. I just saw Chip in another game, and he seems to have an aggressive (not in a bad way) tone about him, and pushes logical reasons of thought that others seem to have missed, and I actually think that’s pretty solid play. Scum probably slightly set themselves up to follow Chip’s push or discredit Chip immediately and then push him. That’s the safest way to potentially start a new wagon that looks to be able to gain steam without taking the blunt of the damage if incorrect. Because of this, Cheeky Teeky stands out to me. Cheeky said to Rhah about not setting up another mislynch, but then has changed over to Chip after Chip started doing his Chip thing. Necro also jumped on Chip, which is almost a classic “Too scummy to be scum” move again, and with the trajectory of Necro, I do indeed feel that the too scummy to be scum mantra fits well to the point I’d almost call him obv town.

I mean, my Zulfy read hasn’t really evolved persay. I’m pretty confident they are scum, and now with my CheekyTeeky suspicion, along with some of Rhah’s responses, I’m pretty confident that Rhah is a mislynch. I still feel that Zulfy was saying things for the sake of saying them, and other than that, I can’t really explain why I feel he’s scum, besides the obvious him pushing Rhah, which just comes out to be circular reasoning due to the question, “What if Rhah’s scum?” I’m pretty confident that eventually I’ll be able to explain my Zulfy read better, but it’s page 14, so I’ll just need some more activity before I can start breaking him down. He’s aware I’m here watching his posts, so he’ll likely be posting in a way where he tried to trick me if he’s scum, and if I’m wrong, and he is actually town, I feel i’ll Be able to figure that out sooner than later by POE’ing out other players when I start to town read them.

Wave keeps saying to lynch Una or Vander, and I think I’d rather have Una alive right now. He pseudo defended me earlier against Chip, and I can’t tell if it’s coming from comment of “good content” he brought up, which I generally say Day 3-Day4, but my Day 2 is where the wheels do start turning, you are correct on that.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:52 am

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Cheeky also put Rhah to L-2 earlier, and is now helping it move towards Chip.

Did Necro actually vote for Chip first....? Or were there some unvote revote shenanigans?
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:20 am

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In post 345, Morality wrote:Cheeky said to Rhah about not setting up another mislynch, but then has changed over to Chip after Chip started doing his Chip thing.
I've been pretty clear about why I moved to chip. You've taken my actions out of context to create this cheeky!scum dialogue. I naked voted vander to get a reaction from an early scum lean, I vote necro for being too WIFOMy, I pressured rhah to try and get some straight answers out of him, I vote UCV to get him interacting with the game again, because I didn't like that he feel silent when his wagon disappeared, I had chip as a probs town read but didn't like his last few posts as I explained, I even said his logic is good but I found his tone awful so I'm waiting to see how I feel about him.

As you can see I'm using my vote to get reactions and I'm giving reads to get more reactions. This is independent of what others are thinking or doing. If they hop on someone I'm trying to get a solid read on then that has nothing to do with me and it's beyond a stretch to say my actions are premeditated to get rid of chip? Seriously.

Also why phrase this as "cheeky wants another mislynch" when I don't know that chip is town. How do you know he's town? And just wtf none of my actions indicate this is true. I hope this is just a misunderstanding and that you're not trying to pocket chip who scum read you. In fact this point is making me feel like chip is probably town if I'm on the right track about you.
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:39 am

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: morality you feel manipulative as scumfuck.
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:44 am

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In post 348, CheekyTeeky wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: morality you feel manipulative as scumfuck.

UNVOTE: Rhah
VOTE: CheekyTeeky

sorry. this pushes is. not the you used some unnecessary language, but the fact you used him trying to make a point. plus. how is he manipulative????????did he say something to get you to do something you didn't want to. im sorry, but what just happened there was super scummy

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