Mini Normal 1957: The Perfect LUV Game [Endgame]

Xiao Long · Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:56 pm

First? I’m probably scum tbh

Xiao Long · Post Post #7 (isolation #1) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:17 pm

Weird, I like that I’m two instead of three though. Can’t stand odd numbers.

Xiao Long · Post Post #9 (isolation #2) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:04 am

You just hate me cause I’m beautiful.

So are you not planning on voting at all day 1? That’s a very odd way of doing playing.

Xiao Long · Post Post #11 (isolation #3) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:36 am

I’m just trying my hand at some level 3 shit, dawg.
If you’ll do all that, why not just push lunches you think are scummy? Seems like you’d get more use out of your slot by pressuring and shit with votes.

Xiao Long · Post Post #14 (isolation #4) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:33 am

I’m always on another level. It’s only anti town when town doesn’t listen to me. ;.;

I’ll ask you more about this vote stuff later in the day. For now I’m just waiting for more players to start dropping in. And also wondering if we’ll get any info on the that table.

Xiao Long · Post Post #56 (isolation #5) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:56 am

Mumble, you're not a Filipino living in the Middle East are you?

Xiao Long · Post Post #57 (isolation #6) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:57 am

Oh yeah, and VOTE: Derpy

Xiao Long · Post Post #60 (isolation #7) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:05 am

So higher number = more town read
lower number = more scum read?

Cool, but put me back at 2, cause I don't like the number 1.
How much can you comment within your pr?

P-EDIT:
Tally list? Am I reading wrong?

Xiao Long · Post Post #64 (isolation #8) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:12 am

Cool
Anyways, Derpy, talk to me
Are you restricted or do you just not vote because you're stubborn?

P-EDIT:
Nobody has lol

Xiao Long · Post Post #66 (isolation #9) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:20 am

Cause of the death tunnel thing? That's what I meant by stubborn.
Just vote man. Vote me, you already think I'm scum right?

Xiao Long · Post Post #73 (isolation #10) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:26 am

Come oooon, Derpy. Let's 1v1 or something! I'm already voting you, so we're halfway there.

Nauci: You gotta get down with tha sickness

Spoiler:

P-Edit: Nauci: I'm basically asking if he's going to be doing that table shit the whole time and if so how much he can make comments within the table.

Xiao Long · Post Post #74 (isolation #11) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:26 am

Oh, I don't know how to do images anymore.

Xiao Long · Post Post #80 (isolation #12) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:33 am

Bah, fine
I'll just sheep the Wossi vote then VOTE: Wossi

P-Edit: Hey look man, it's not my fault I'm stupid at forum tags!

Xiao Long · Post Post #85 (isolation #13) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:46 am

Yeah man, very relieved! It's always nice when scum is caught early.

Mumble: Only other dude I've ever met with the screen name Mumble was a Flipino living in the Middle East.
Btw do you like Derpy's refusal to vote?

Xiao Long · Post Post #87 (isolation #14) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:47 am

Aw man, but what about my question?

Xiao Long · Post Post #90 (isolation #15) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:53 am

You and Wossi? Or Mumble and Wossi?

Xiao Long · Post Post #92 (isolation #16) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:58 am

Flavor are you able to vote?

Xiao Long · Post Post #93 (isolation #17) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:00 am

>tfw you're literally talking to a wall

Xiao Long · Post Post #95 (isolation #18) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:04 am

Me? What am I, level 1 or something?

Xiao Long · Post Post #96 (isolation #19) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:04 am

Derpy you're the only one here, thoughts on Wall Man and Mumble?

Xiao Long · Post Post #100 (isolation #20) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:10 am

Wossi: My hatred of odd numbers wins again!

Derpy: How's it a good vote if there's been nothing of value to vote on tho?

Xiao Long · Post Post #104 (isolation #21) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:14 am

lol then vote me, Derpy. You're already tunneling me. ;D

Xiao Long · Post Post #107 (isolation #22) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:20 am

100% hammer without considering anything else?
That's an interesting stance. Maybe you don't want to vote me and push a lynch on me cause you know it's a mislynch? That's my thoughts atm.

Xiao Long · Post Post #113 (isolation #23) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:29 am

Isn't everyone assuming things at this point? Are you not assuming things? Are you saying you know alignments already?

VOTE: Derpy
Let's go back to here for now

Xiao Long · Post Post #120 (isolation #24) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:58 am

I meant post restriction there. In the future if I mean power role, I'll probably capitalize PR.

Xiao Long · Post Post #125 (isolation #25) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:13 am

A man after my own heart. I tried to do my first game here all in Haiku, but no one appreciated it.
Also that's a bad vote, you should sheep my Derpy vote. You even noticed the same thing about him that I did.

Xiao Long · Post Post #128 (isolation #26) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:26 am

I would never make a level 1 play as scum though. It’s just bad juju.

Xiao Long · Post Post #132 (isolation #27) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:51 am

All these people not posting. Get here guys. Throw some votes around. Let’s dance.

Xiao Long · Post Post #134 (isolation #28) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:52 am

It’s all the same on the internet, bro

Xiao Long · Post Post #140 (isolation #29) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:02 pm

Ah, but it is a true one =]

Xiao Long · Post Post #142 (isolation #30) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:06 pm

Making a level 1 play as town is the most standard thing you can do. Most new players will always play a level 1 town. Playing anything higher than a level 1 town will draw a lot of eyes on you, as is happening to me this very moment.

Now you might think “well if it will draw eyes on you, why would you ever play higher than level 1”
We can talk about that after day 1.

Xiao Long · Post Post #143 (isolation #31) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:07 pm

I want more from Chickendee, he’s coasting now

Xiao Long · Post Post #147 (isolation #32) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:22 pm

Didn’t I say I’m level 3 right now?
I think you’re confused bro bro.

Nauchos: Hey man, it’s all the same to me.

Xiao Long · Post Post #148 (isolation #33) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:23 pm

Dinner doodles, thank you for your vote. These low effort votes are going to make it much easier to catch scum.

Xiao Long · Post Post #151 (isolation #34) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:39 pm

How would you know if you don’t even know what level 1 is? Rofl
Dinnerdoodles mad at tha call out. Making this too easy.

Xiao Long · Post Post #153 (isolation #35) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:43 pm

It’s ok, you’ll do better next time.
Alright everyone, I’m going to sleep. Give me some content for tomorrow so I don’t have to carry the conversation the whole time.

Xiao Long · Post Post #231 (isolation #36) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:25 pm

You don’t see scum making a neighborhood gambit, but you think what I’m doing is a scum gambit? L O L

Hey Tyrrion, you use your brain. I like that. I think Derpy is the scum in a Wossi vs Derpy situation though.

Hey guys that want to lynch me, just wait until day 3 or 4 to do it. If I haven’t helped find scum by then, I won’t argue with that. This will at least get you to start looking at other people.
Tell me what you think of this deal everyone.

Oh someone said my levels stuff was arrogant. It’s not arrogant, levels have nothing to do with how good of a player you are. A great player can play a level 1 game and a shit player can play a level 4 game.

Xiao Long · Post Post #232 (isolation #37) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:26 pm

Derpy does scum have day chat?

Xiao Long · Post Post #233 (isolation #38) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:30 pm

In post 161, Porkens wrote:Animal bloc confirmed.

vote: xiao long

In post 173, Porkens wrote:Both scummy. Waaso more so by a nose.

In post 180, Porkens wrote:
vote: wossi

Sooooooooooouuunds good

Rip animal bloc. Mammal block?

What a weird order of events.
Vote me
“Was more scummy than Xiao”
Oh, shit, I need to vote Wassi

What’re you doin piglet?

Xiao Long · Post Post #234 (isolation #39) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:36 pm

In post 167, Nauci wrote:I'm trying to calm down and not PL XL for being a jerk about genders

But conveniently I don't really have to because I scum read him ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Whatchumean homie, policy lunches are retarded and I wasn’t a jerk hehe
I just don’t look at the gender box

You’re right, your scum read on me is convenient huehue

Xiao Long · Post Post #235 (isolation #40) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:43 pm

Wavemode, get your vote somewhere more useful. Tyrrion not being lynched today. Also give some more content. Right now all of your posts might as well not even exist.

What do you think of Derpy?
What do you think of Wall Man?
What do you think of Animetrix?

Xiao Long · Post Post #236 (isolation #41) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:44 pm

Dinnernoodles actually I was thinking like you at first. Maybe the neighborhood is actually scum group. How many scums we dealing with?

Xiao Long · Post Post #244 (isolation #42) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:12 pm

In post 242, Nauci wrote:
In post 232, Xiao Long wrote:Derpy does scum have day chat?
Do you not read the thread?

I do

In post 243, Nauci wrote:
In post 234, Xiao Long wrote:
In post 167, Nauci wrote:I'm trying to calm down and not PL XL for being a jerk about genders

But conveniently I don't really have to because I scum read him ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Whatchumean homie, policy lunches are retarded and I wasn’t a jerk hehe
I just don’t look at the gender box

You’re right, your scum read on me is convenient huehue
There's a difference between not paying attention to the pronoun and BEING A JERK WHEN CORRECTED BY 2 PEOPLE

I wasn’t being a jerk, and I wasn’t even corrected by chickendee til later, so get over it or something

Xiao Long · Post Post #245 (isolation #43) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:17 pm

In post 241, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 232, Xiao Long wrote:Derpy does scum have day chat?
Yes

Hm, not what I was looking for. Towny enough response I guess.

In post 240, Wossi wrote:If Derpy's town, there's a chance the meta of "two-man neighborhood has one town and one scum" tainted his read on me from the very beginning.

I really don't like how Animetrix indirectly asks town to confirm his thoughts in so many of his posts. Like nervous scum trying find reassurance that they're blending in.

Seeming more likely a tvt situation between you two.

Animetrix also doesn’t vote me for whatever reason despite apparently being her number 1 scumspect.
VOTE: Animetrix
Anime gimme some realness

Xiao Long · Post Post #247 (isolation #44) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:25 am

Some kind of defensiveness over why I was asking you. Admittedly a pretty shit tier reaction test, but hey, scum have been caught for less in the past.

Xiao Long · Post Post #248 (isolation #45) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:26 am

I want some thoughts on my deal before Tyrrion gets back. Specifically I want to hear what Derpy, Wossi, Dinnernoodles and Anime think first.

Xiao Long · Post Post #251 (isolation #46) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:25 am

In post 249, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 247, Xiao Long wrote:Some kind of defensiveness over why I was asking you. Admittedly a pretty shit tier reaction test, but hey, scum have been caught for less in the past.

More level 1 bullshit. You can’t be town

Yeah, that’s not how levels work, homie.
And answer my question dawg!

Xiao Long · Post Post #253 (isolation #47) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:42 am

In post 248, Xiao Long wrote:I want some thoughts on my deal before Tyrrion gets back. Specifically I want to hear what Derpy, Wossi, Dinnernoodles and Anime think first.

Xiao Long · Post Post #255 (isolation #48) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:47 am

Hmm, I’m starting to think you’re not really reading all my posts.

Xiao Long · Post Post #258 (isolation #49) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:02 am

In post 257, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 255, Xiao Long wrote:Hmm, I’m starting to think you’re not really reading all my posts.
I have, and it's those posts that make me think you are probably scum. I don't really see anything you have done that looks townie.

Okay but...

In post 254, Apple Jack wrote:idk why you would ask a question you already know the answer to.

I think you are scum

This doesn't answer my question. My question is about my deal, not what you think of my alignment.

In post 256, wavemode wrote:
In post 235, Xiao Long wrote:Tyrrion not being lynched today.
So?
In post 235, Xiao Long wrote:What do you think of Derpy?
Town
In post 235, Xiao Long wrote:What do you think of Wall Man?
Who?
In post 235, Xiao Long wrote:What do you think of Animetrix?
Scum

So vote someone else!
I'm nullscum on it.
Wall Man = guy who posts the walls/tables. Table man doesn't sound as good though.
Same.

Xiao Long · Post Post #260 (isolation #50) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:43 am

Day 3 or 4. Town will get my flip in return. After it reveals I'm town, they'll be able to analyze my interactions over 3 or 4 days and hopefully come away with a win.
The biggest part of that deal is that some people saying "idk bout Xiao lel he scum" will actually be forced to analyze other players instead of being lazy.

Xiao Long · Post Post #262 (isolation #51) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:53 am

That would be better than wasting a lynch on me, but it won't happen.

Xiao Long · Post Post #265 (isolation #52) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:59 am

Damn, I had such high hopes for you, Tyrrion. You were a thinking man, now you've defaulted to the same laziness of others.

Gimme some real interactions here, dawg. What's the negative of guarantee lynching me day 3 or 4 so that people will pay attention to others today? You don't want them to pay attention to others? Damn, it's hard to determine who's town in this game when no one wants to pay attention to others. Pretend Wossi and I don't exist, who are you looking at?

Xiao Long · Post Post #268 (isolation #53) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:11 am

Whew, you're back.

I still am not sure about Wossi. I see TvT now with those two. Chickendee, Nuachos and Anime look like they need some attention to me. Tho my less-than-town read on Nauchos is based on her AtE.
Wait, I never responded to Nauchos, I guess I should since half her case can be disregarded by meta. Although meta is pretty much useless, idk

Xiao Long · Post Post #270 (isolation #54) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:33 am

Alright, incoming meta to force you to look at other people instead of derp tunneling, Nauchos. Yes, I'm aware meta is trash and easily manipulated. Ignore if you want, I guess?

Spoiler:

Xiao Long · Post Post #271 (isolation #55) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:33 am

In post 269, Tchill13 wrote:Also once again derpy is town.

I think your comment is backwards.

Xiao Long · Post Post #273 (isolation #56) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:36 am

I thought you said I'm prob not scum? You're more back and forth than I am!

Xiao Long · Post Post #274 (isolation #57) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:36 am

Also, if you guys do ignore all that meta, at the very least pay attention to this post:
viewtopic.php?p=6602017#p6602017

Xiao Long · Post Post #276 (isolation #58) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:43 am

If you read the post, you'll realize I want you to see it because it's about levels and might help you understand what I'm saying. None of what I was meta-ing was alignment indicative stuff. Why so quick to disregard?

Xiao Long · Post Post #277 (isolation #59) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:52 am

VOTE: sheep

It should be a crime that you only have one post, sheep.

Xiao Long · Post Post #278 (isolation #60) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:53 am

FOS Everyone with fewer posts than the mod.

Xiao Long · Post Post #280 (isolation #61) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:05 am

Well shit, unfortunate
VOTE: Mumble

Xiao Long · Post Post #283 (isolation #62) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:29 am

Problem?

Xiao Long · Post Post #288 (isolation #63) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:37 am

Votes aren't sacred, just lay em down fat and nasty like.
Was it the first mention? I was at work at the time and could only post during breaks, I didn't fully catch up at that time. But hey, you already think I'm scummy, AND you don't like my reasoning for voting you, so why the fuck aren't you voting me? Are you afraid that I'll get lynched before you can unvote and then you'll be a suspect after I flip? Are you afraid to have any association with my flip? Are you not confident in your own scumspicions? Did your partner vote me already?

It should be obvious what I'm trying to accomplish lol

Xiao Long · Post Post #316 (isolation #64) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:11 pm

[quote="In [url=viewtopic.php?p=9712931#p9712931]post 289[/url], Derpy Hooves"]Yes it’s pretty obvious. Getting people to write you off as a VI instead of the scum you actually are.[/quote]
No, dumbass. I want the people that aren’t posting to be posting. Stop being dense as shit.
[quote="In [url=viewtopic.php?p=9712952#p9712952]post 290[/url], Porkens"]very busy. If I missed something important, please quote or yell at me.

I'm over the wossi BW.

[b]Vote: Xiao Long[/b]
self meta is garbo.[/quote]
Are you able to read? Like, at all? My self meta was not about alignment indicative shit, it was only proving something that I do all the time regardless of alignment. Make better posts.
[quote="In [url=viewtopic.php?p=9713110#p9713110]post 292[/url], Chickadee"][quote="In [url=viewtopic.php?p=9712517#p9712517]post 264[/url], Derpy Hooves"][quote="In [url=viewtopic.php?p=9712477#p9712477]post 261[/url], Tchill13"]if theres a vig shoot this man.[/quote]
+1[/quote]
nth

[quote="In [url=viewtopic.php?p=9710339#p9710339]post 126[/url], Chickadee"]For real though guys, my vote on Xaoi started as a joke, but I think he might be scum trying to hide in plain site.[/quote][/quote]

More low effort garbage. Instead of something real, you just requote yourself in hopes that town won’t notice how you’re not actually doing any real scumhunting. Looks like it’s working too.

Xiao Long · Post Post #317 (isolation #65) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:11 pm

Quote tags Gg

Xiao Long · Post Post #318 (isolation #66) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:13 pm

In post 310, Wossi wrote:Backtrack bactrack backtrack

also there's five posts in the hood before you shut it down. Do those five posts really carry so much weigh that you refuse to investigate anyone else in this game?

Well yeah, he’s already admitted he doesn’t know how to look at everyone.

Xiao Long · Post Post #319 (isolation #67) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:14 pm

In post 315, Nauci wrote:Hey Wossi give us a break down of your reads before you get lunch

you’re just standing around while other people do things for you.

Xiao Long · Post Post #320 (isolation #68) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:16 pm

In post 311, Tchill13 wrote:Next time I check this thread it needs to be locked and Wossi needs to have been lynched. The issue with long day 1s is if town catches scum there's a good chance they talk themselves out of it and Lynch someone else. It always,always happens I've seen it too many times. Lynch Wossi and vig XL if possible. Gets the 2 most confusing/scummy slots out of the game.

Why don’t you want lurkers to post more? The fact you use your brain is towny, the fact you want to force something as quickly as possible is not.

Xiao Long · Post Post #321 (isolation #69) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:18 pm

In post 314, Porkens wrote:
In post 300, Wossi wrote:Why do you think I'm PR and not just regular scum btw?

Vote Wossi

kk

Your last ten posts have been low effort with no scumhunting. Tell me why.

Xiao Long · Post Post #322 (isolation #70) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:22 pm

In post 46, Mumble wrote:Hi.

In post 53, Mumble wrote:
In post 50, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 46, Mumble wrote:Hi.
you aren't from GLB are you?
What is GLB?

In post 82, Mumble wrote:
In post 55, Apple Jack wrote:nevermind. you aren't who I thought you were.
You could still answer the question.

In post 56, Xiao Long wrote:Mumble, you're not a Filipino living in the Middle East are you?
Um...no. Why?

In post 86, Mumble wrote:VOTE: XL

Off to play Assassin’s Creed. Back in a few.

Entirety of Mumbles ISO btw
Town letting this happen btw

Xiao Long · Post Post #326 (isolation #71) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:50 pm

Nauchos, thoughts on your case on me now that two of your main reasons have been discredited?

Xiao Long · Post Post #327 (isolation #72) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:51 pm

In post 323, Porkens wrote:
In post 321, Xiao Long wrote:
In post 314, Porkens wrote:
In post 300, Wossi wrote:Why do you think I'm PR and not just regular scum btw?

Vote Wossi

kk
Your last ten posts have been low effort with no scumhunting. Tell me why.

Mmmmmmmmmnnnnnaw

You’re so helpful. Thanks dawg.

Xiao Long · Post Post #330 (isolation #73) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:59 pm

You did, but it was a pretty fluffy one and since then you’ve been coasting.

What are those numbers at the bottom? Also damn you, at least make it 1.8.

Xiao Long · Post Post #333 (isolation #74) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:56 pm

Of course they were fluff posts, they were all during RVS. Only reason I brought them back up again was cause they were part of your “case” against me.
At least you voted correctly this time. I encourage everyone to force the hands of all lurkers.

Xiao Long · Post Post #336 (isolation #75) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:10 am

In post 334, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:

Nobody (4): Derpy Hooves, Porkens, Flavor Leaf, Animetrix

AKA people not making use of their slot

Xiao Long · Post Post #339 (isolation #76) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:47 am

In post 337, Chickadee wrote:
In post 322, Xiao Long wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 46, Mumble wrote:Hi.

In post 53, Mumble wrote:
In post 50, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 46, Mumble wrote:Hi.
you aren't from GLB are you?
What is GLB?

In post 82, Mumble wrote:
In post 55, Apple Jack wrote:nevermind. you aren't who I thought you were.
You could still answer the question.

In post 56, Xiao Long wrote:Mumble, you're not a Filipino living in the Middle East are you?
Um...no. Why?

In post 86, Mumble wrote:VOTE: XL

Off to play Assassin’s Creed. Back in a few.

Entirety of Mumbles ISO btw
Town letting this happen btw
Ok, I'll just track him down and go to his house and make him is in front of his computer and post. Easy peasy.

He's lurking and i want more out of him, but more than that I'd like to see either you or Wossi flip today.

Vote him. Voting has a magical way of luring people out of hiding.
Besides, my flip would not benefit town in any way except by analyzing interactions.

In post 338, Apple Jack wrote:Lurking is an epidemic on this site. Town and scum do it. While I’d love to pressure and policy lynch every single lurker, it’s just not feasible.

Now we have plenty of time but the day ends with a wossi lynch. What happens between now and that I don’t really care.

“THIS IS ME NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH MY VOTE”

Xiao Long · Post Post #341 (isolation #77) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:00 am

Except you’re 100% wrong about me, so I have little reason to trust you’re right about Wossi.

Xiao Long · Post Post #343 (isolation #78) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:08 am

Improve my play lol
My play has been fine, not my fault you can’t analyze.

Xiao Long · Post Post #344 (isolation #79) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:09 am

In post 342, Apple Jack wrote:stop trying to do things intentionally to force people to town read you.

What is this even supposed to mean?

Xiao Long · Post Post #346 (isolation #80) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:19 am

How am I playing bad? You started tripping over my first post and haven’t considered any other possibilities. Even with other people telling you about other possibilities.

Once again, you said you weren’t going to vote cause you tend to derp tunnel. You’re already derp tunneling anyways, so just fuckin vote dawg.

Xiao Long · Post Post #352 (isolation #81) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:29 am

Ok, so I’m playing bad because of two rvs posts, having the audacity to test you with something and doing the oh so scummy thing of wanting interaction and for people to use the most important mechanic in the game?

Damn, must be a lot of really fucking shit players on this site.

Xiao Long · Post Post #354 (isolation #82) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:34 am

Well I hope I can learn how to play better from you, b0ss. Perpetually level 1 is best.

Xiao Long · Post Post #361 (isolation #83) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:33 am

Fuck it, I'm hammering
VOTE: Wossi

Xiao Long · Post Post #364 (isolation #84) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:37 am

You should be happy that you got your lynch, Derpy

Xiao Long · Post Post #366 (isolation #85) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:39 am

VOTE: Derpy
I know

Xiao Long · Post Post #368 (isolation #86) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:41 am

Omg Derpy cmon

Xiao Long · Post Post #370 (isolation #87) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:45 am

Fucking L O L
That shit is a standard part of the game, and you shitting all over it like that is suspect as fuck.

Xiao Long · Post Post #374 (isolation #88) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:12 am

In post 372, Apple Jack wrote:I hate lying. I hate gambits. I hate trickery. That isn’t suspect. That’s me.

If you are town you shouldn’t need bullshit tricks to find scum especially when they almost never work.

If you do you need them maybe try another game as mafia isn’t the game for you.

Spoiler:

Xiao Long · Post Post #393 (isolation #89) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:11 am

I feel like I’m in a twilight zone right now with how much Tyrrion is buddying Derp.
Fake hammers aren’t stupid gambits, they can be and are often useful in gauging reactions, but fuck me for even trying to play the game I guess. My vote put him at L1 and there were other votes on the same page before mine with the last VC being on the previous page, it’s not impossible for him to see it and at least respond to it.

Not allowing him the chance to respond to it is scummy, saying I and my play are stupid is scummy.
Inb4 everything I say gets ignored because lol I’m a scumread and a “bad player”

Xiao Long · Post Post #396 (isolation #90) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:20 am

How do you not even consider the possibility of Derp scum though? He just shits all over everything with “that’s stupid” as if that’s an actual retort.

Xiao Long · Post Post #397 (isolation #91) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:22 am

In post 372, Apple Jack wrote:I hate lying. I hate gambits. I hate trickery. That isn’t suspect. That’s me.

If you are town you shouldn’t need bullshit tricks to find scum especially when they almost never work.

If you do you need them maybe try another game as mafia isn’t the game for you.

This post literally translates to:

“If you don’t play the way I want you to play, you’re stupid and shouldn’t play the game.”

Xiao Long · Post Post #398 (isolation #92) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:24 am

What kind of town will shit on something that has a possibility of catching scum? “If you’re town you shouldn’t need bullshit tricks to find scum” lol? Does it matter? Catching scum is all I care about, if the method is a trick, who cares? Trying to take weapons away from town’s arsenal is at the very least anti-town.

Xiao Long · Post Post #399 (isolation #93) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:26 am

Nevermind, I shouldn’t question anything Derpy does. I forgot I’m a bad player.

Flavor what happened to your wall tables?

Xiao Long · Post Post #401 (isolation #94) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:36 am

I didn't even dislike playing with him until this shit, though:

In post 342, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 341, Xiao Long wrote:Except you’re 100% wrong about me, so I have little reason to trust you’re right about Wossi.
If I’m wrong about you. Improve your play next time and stop trying to do things intentionally to force people to town read you.

In post 345, Apple Jack wrote:Playing bad on purpose so people think that you are too bad to be scum.

Before this I thought he was weird and annoying at times, but didn't think he was bad to play with. His ego then took over and made him an anti-fun entity.

Xiao Long · Post Post #402 (isolation #95) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:37 am

But I think my actual vote on him was a good one, regardless of whether I think he's being a dick.

Xiao Long · Post Post #408 (isolation #96) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:08 pm

Yeah, there will always be people that agree with some things. That doesn't mean what you're saying is fact. Mods are players just as much as you or I, so if a mod doesn't like them, then they won't allow them. That doesn't make it law. Holy shit.

Implying it's a n00b mistake? Really? I played a game where I spent the whole day screaming at the top of my lungs that someone was scum. Nobody listened. You know what finally proved they were scum? A fucking fake hammer, so get off my dick.

Xiao Long · Post Post #409 (isolation #97) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:10 pm

In post 407, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 398, Xiao Long wrote:What kind of town will shit on something that has a possibility of catching scum? “
Fake hammers and gambits
almost
never catch scum.

WHO CAAAAAARES?????
You say almost, that's not a 100% thing, meaning there is a possibility of it. WHY DO YOU WANT TO REMOVE TOOLS THAT TOWN POSSESSES?

Xiao Long · Post Post #411 (isolation #98) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:12 pm

Except you have been pushing lynches, you've just not put any votes down so you can be like, "Oh, he flipped town? Well, I wasn't voting for him."

Xiao Long · Post Post #415 (isolation #99) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:15 pm

IMPLYING YOU CAN'T DO BOTH? ARE YOU REALLY?

Holy shit, dude. You can't be serious right now. Your analogy is shit.
A better analogy would be
scum hunting = 9mm
gambit = 22 pistol
MOTHERFUCKER DUAL WIELD IT

Xiao Long · Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:17 pm

In post 413, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 411, Xiao Long wrote:Except you have been pushing lynches, you've just not put any votes down so you can be like, "Oh, he flipped town? Well, I wasn't voting for him."
I have though. When your scum buddy gets lynched it’s cause I started it. He fucked up in the Hood/game and I exposed him.

You have what? Been pushing lynches? That's what I said. Your first post said you're not going to push lynches, but you have been pushing lynches.
And your "exposing" is again your ego saying, "YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE ME BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE IS BAD AT THIS GAME."
I didn't read your neighborhood, I don't know what's really inside it.
Maybe you're both scum and the neighborhood is actually a scum thread.

Xiao Long · Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:18 pm

In post 414, Nauci wrote:
In post 392, Tchill13 wrote:Anyways basically... Porkers conf town if Wossi flips scum. I like flavor leafs train of thought on his porkers vote he's prob town. Wossi decided to have more intricate detailed reads after my case on him. He's still scum. Vig still needs to shoot xl if possible.
You need to stop tossing around the term "conf town" so carelessly.

Nah, let him keep doing it. He can put himself in a box.

Xiao Long · Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:21 pm

In post 418, Apple Jack wrote:Sorry for insulting you if you end up being town. I just dislike your playstle. To me it’s anti-town and ineffective. You make yourself look scummy because half the game wants to lynch you.

You can be mad at my harshness but it’s not my fault that multiple people think you are scum. That’s on you.

L O L
I'm not mad at you thinking I'm scum.
I'm mad at you calling me and my play stupid.

After the game is over remind me to tell you something about analyzing or something. Well, if you're town, that is. If you're scum, then obviously you're doing what you're doing to manipulate town and it's working for you.

Xiao Long · Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:26 pm

In post 419, Apple Jack wrote:And I’m just ignore you from now on. Have a good life. Watch both ways when crossing the street.

Spoiler:

This is obviously not helpful either.

In post 420, Nauci wrote:I personally find that reactions to gambits are the most telling posts that a lot of players make, and they've been effective in at least half the games I've played.

Derpy you could afford to relax a bit.

In post 421, Nauci wrote:The stream of condescending and insulting posts make games a lot less fun for a lot of people. I'm not a fan. It also results in a lot of pages of NAI reactionary bickering posts that don't get us anywhere.

Wow, thank you Nauchos for confirming that I'm not going insane.

Xiao Long · Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:32 pm

Well ideally town should read town as town, but they often read scum as town as well.
I keep going back and forth on Nauchos and Anime, plus not enough interaction from others to get a real read on them, which is frustrating.

Xiao Long · Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:44 pm

In post 428, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 423, Wossi wrote:You're self-aware enough to realize your play is problematic but make no effort to correct it?
My play is only problematic to scum and players who play bad on purpose or rely on stupid/bad/ineffective tactics.

I call things as I see them. I hold players to a high level cause I’m sick and tired of coming across players who care so little about the integrity of mafia.

If xl is town. He said “fuck the game integrity “ the moment he said he may be scum. Town should never joke about that. It looks like a scum trick because people will be all “scum would never do that” but imo town should never do it.

Dawg, let's get really real. You've taken one post I made as a joke in rvs and applied your opinion of it to every one of my posts since then. It really doesn't matter what I post because you're going to keep your opinion no matter what.

In post 429, Dunkerdoodles wrote:derpy hard tunnels town as town therefore derpy and xiao are both town

now lets lynch wossi

He's hard-tunneling on Wossi too though, so wouldn't that make Wossi town?

In post 430, Nauci wrote:
In post 410, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 8, Apple Jack wrote:for the sake of not ruining the game on day 1, I’m probably just going to ask questions and process information and won’t actually start pushing to lynch my scum reads until day 2. This is unorthodox and some will find it scummy but I’m not really worried about that.
It’s almost like I warned people about me and yet people still wanted to tangle with me
You correctly identified your problem in your disclaimers but didn't go through with your fixes. Knowing is *half* the battle. Please deliver on the other 50% because as it is, you are simultaneously not using your votes to pressure anybody *and* tunneling 2 people and not providing reads on the other 10 people in the game, which is anti town.

Even if we do lynch one of your reads today, there's no reason you shouldn't be prodding at everyone else for information. Half of your contributions involve calling scum hunting tactics bad instead of scum hunting. Maybe if you cared about the integrity of mafia you'd contribute something useful instead? Ffs I read XL as scummy and he's gotten more info out of players this game than you have despite word count.

Spoiler:

Holy moly, it's a Christmas miracle! Someone actually sees what I'm saying!

Xiao Long · Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:50 pm

In post 435, Lord Gurgi wrote:Hello, I'm replacing Sheep. Mod hasn't announced it yet, hope this is okay.

Gonna call Derp Hooves/Xiao Long team.

Xiao Long claimed scum in his first post.
RVS throw away post. Unless you think I trust tell?

When feuds aren't actually trying to lynch each other, it's a distancing technique. Seriously, they've been feuding since Derpy's first post.
I'm literally voting him now trying to get others to vote him.

First post admitting that they won't be lynching their reads. In this case, we even get an explicit admission that they won't lynch their read/feud in Derpy's first post. Second post admits to a desire to cast the hammer. Scum behavior.
This was Derpy, not me

Couching scumreads as "I don't like anti-town behavior". This is an attempt to build deniability for leaving the wagon if it accidentally grows. Calling it now that Derpy will attempt to defuse any Xiao Long wagon. "I just dislike him, that's not a reason to lynch him".
Then this is also about Derpy and not me?

Always wagon "fake" hammers.

Why tho?

VOTE: Xiao Long. Starting with the one I'm more confident on.

PS. Hey Porkens, long time.

Xiao Long · Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:55 pm

In post 438, Nauci wrote:I don't think he town read you just because derp tunnelled you. I think he town reads derp because of that.

Maybe I'm confused, I thought he was saying I'm town because he thinks Derp is town and is hard tunneling me, which would mean he should think Wossi is town as well.

In post 439, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 430, Nauci wrote:not providing reads on the other 10 people in the game, which is anti town.
Well I don’t remember asking anyone my reads on others. I don’t share all my reads though cause I don’t give scum more info than they need. If I’ve found 2 scum and I’m fairly certain they will flip scum, why not just worry about getting them lynched?

My neighbor partner is scum guaranteed. It’s not even a shadow of a doubt at this point. I’ll concede XL could be town but I think it’s a low percentage. That’s why I endorse a vig shot. Not having to sort him day 2 helps the game imo.

How is your scum partner guaranteed to us?

In post 440, Lord Gurgi wrote:
In post 436, Nauci wrote: As a general rule, don't trust someone who dismisses criticism in one breath with "I was joking" and then complains in the next that people do not take them seriously. It's manipulative behavior that attempts to provide cover in advance for future errors. This is a read of Xiao Long, if that's not obvious.

Also, y'all post too quickly and don't think before posting. It's annoying. Consolidate your responses to a single post please.

Thank you to Derpy for reminding me that htey called for vigilante kills. This is a classic scum move.

The only thing I've dismissed as joking was my rvs posts. AND I didn't call for vig, that was Tyrrion. Try again.

Xiao Long · Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:56 pm

In post 445, Apple Jack wrote:Btw scum have been caught in rvs so nothing is excluded in this game

I will concede this is true, but it doesn't apply to me because I'm not scum.

Xiao Long · Post Post #452 (isolation #109) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:00 pm

WHY DON'T YOU GIVE US REAL ANALYSIS DINNERNOODLES?

Xiao Long · Post Post #466 (isolation #110) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:14 pm

In post 450, Chickadee wrote:I like Lord Gurgi. He's a thinker.

Wossi is still my preferred lynch today.

You do realize this statement is unreliable, right? Like, what was the point of typing that out?

I'll tell you after you post a case or something that actually gives us some real information. Deal?

In post 451, Lord Gurgi wrote: All posts matter, whether made in jest or not. This is not a valid defense.

Yes, ALL posts matter, not just the very first one. Which is why I think hinging your whole case on that post is weak play, and makes me think there's at least one scum constantly blowing up the point so that the sheepish townies will be like, "Durr, makes sense to me he would claim scum during rvs"

And he's voting for nobody. I want to see what he does when his supposed read starts getting votes. Too bad for you.

Join the club, dawg. I've tried everything I can to get him to vote for SOMEBODY.

Like I said, you're working together. Let's see what Derpy does.

Don't hold your breath.

So you agree with the read. Great.

I don't think Derpy will do that. Like I said before, I think he's going to be like, "You guys should reallllly lynch Xiao" the whole time without actually voting so he has some deniability when I flip town.

Because it's indicative of nervousness or anxiety. We're not in a rush here. Why are you?

I mean, if it were a real hammer I could see that, but I don't get how a fake hammer is indicative of that. Seemed like a good opportunity to try something so I could get some reactions from Wossi, but then Derpy fucked it all up.

Xiao Long: Saying that you haven't used the joke defense much does not undermine the point.

Ok then

Your defense to Derpy, probably an attempt to make them look more reasonable than me, is similarly weak.

I don't know what you mean by this.

So is misinterpreting me: I was saying that Derpy called for the vigilante kill. Not an accusation against you. Good to be defensive and attempt to divert to a third person though. Real tricky of you.

It's not a diversion, Tyrrion is literally the first person to suggest someone vig me. I thought you were claiming I was trying to tell people to vig me.

Xiao Long · Post Post #467 (isolation #111) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:20 pm

In post 454, Nauci wrote: P.S. That RVS post was straight up awful WIFOM baiting bs, XL. It's bad play regardless of your alignment and both makes you suspicious and wastes town time with stupid WIFOM posting. It's only downhill from there.

I guess? It's a whole game of players I've never played with, and I was the first person to post. Really was not expecting people to be trippin that much over it. I think spending the entirety of day 1 WIFOMing over an rvs post is probably the least productive thing town can do.

Pedit: I think he was saying he town reads you (for whatever reason), and also town reads Derpy for tunneling on you.

Also he was referring to Derpy's call to vig you that was like, in the last page.

Oh, weird, especially since he's now voting me?

I get that now.

Xiao Long · Post Post #470 (isolation #112) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:22 pm

In post 468, Apple Jack wrote:
I’m only backing off him cause he’s acting like a crybaby

You really can't help yourself, can you?
Yes, I was mad that you were being a condescending prick. Wow, what a crybaby I am.

Xiao Long · Post Post #473 (isolation #113) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:46 pm

In post 472, Lord Gurgi wrote:
In post 466, Xiao Long wrote:
In post 451, Lord Gurgi wrote: All posts matter, whether made in jest or not. This is not a valid defense.
Yes, ALL posts matter, not just the very first one. Which is why I think hinging your whole case on that post is weak play, and makes me think there's at least one scum constantly blowing up the point so that the sheepish townies will be like, "Durr, makes sense to me he would claim scum during rvs"
That's not the whole of my case against you. This post-hoc milquetoast mafia theory is unimpressive. Does using "Durr" to discredit an argument pass muster these days?

Was meant to be a "your" in reference to Derpy's case, not specifically your case. I'm not using durr to discredit, I'm using it to show how people are just mindlessly agreeing with it instead of doing their own work.

As I said when I cast the vote, Derpy will refuse to join it despite not retracting his read of you. He'll gradually distance and attempt to use his "I don't vote Day One" strategy to survive tomorrow or revise his read of you if you don't get lynched. Derpy's even admitting to backing off as predicted.

Then vote Derpy?

Ah so the difference between my read of his motivations and yours is that you "know you're town". Please.

Sure

See longer response about brinksmanship.

I must have missed it. I'll check.

I'm going to put this in my signature after you get lynched.

Sure

Xiao Long · Post Post #474 (isolation #114) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:48 pm

In post 464, Lord Gurgi wrote:
In post 454, Nauci wrote:LG: why do you think fake hammer bait is indicative of anxiety?
There is a fundamental connection between anxiety and the perceived weakness, to do with human tendency to view loss as more significant than equivalent gain. Fearing further losses, humans react extremely to even the suggestion of danger. In Mafia, this leads scum to be prone to play around with hammer brinksmanship. Especially it leads them to anticipate dropping the hammer and in turn to attempt to excuse it in advance. Both Derpy and Xiao Long have done this to different degrees.

Can you simplify this, cause it doesn't make any sense at all to me.

Xiao Long · Post Post #476 (isolation #115) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:18 pm

In post 475, Lord Gurgi wrote:Then we're back to attacking the people who agree with the argument rather than the argument itself. At this point, you've tacitly admitted that you agree with my argument except you know you're town.

This isn't attacking anyone, it's attacking the play of mindlessly going along with a weak case.

Any questions?

So because my read of what he's doing is different than yours you want to lynch me? Or are you saying something else? Can you just clearly state it?

Let's try it this way. The scum's fear of being exposed as scum (losing information advantage) is a greater loss than the town's fear of being incorrectly identified as scum. This is the basic axiom from which all theory is derived. From this we can derive, among other things, that scum have a vested interest in brief days. Any lynch is superior to their own, they control information, burn a day, etcetera. If you're town, opening the possibility of a hammer would require you to believe that all the scum are already on that wagon or that the target is scum. Would you like to present longform argument that you believed one of these two things? If so, please explain the Wossi-Derpy team. If not, making a gambit of it risks a day to gain information. This is obviously not an efficient trade for the town. This is why it's called anti-town behavior. This is why you always wagon it.

I think you're trying too hard here. I was fake hammering to gauge Wossi's reaction. That's literally it.

"If you're town, opening the possibility of a hammer would require you to believe that all the scum are already on that wagon or that the target is scum."
So you think scum will quick hammer at this point and be able to get away with it? Or do you find anyone who puts anyone at L-1 to be scummy? Or you just think anyone who fake hammers is scum? I don't get your logic here.

Xiao Long · Post Post #480 (isolation #116) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:31 pm

I say the case of saying I'm scum because of my first post is weak, yes. Problem?

Present some motive for fake hammering? I just did lmao. I wanted Wossi's reaction. If I was lucky, I could have gotten other reactions as well. That didn't happen.

"If you didn't think scum would hammer, why would you burn a day for that information rather than just lynch Wossi? If you think town would hammer, then it is not a gambit, but an attempt to lynch and hasten the day."
What the fuck are you even talking about here? How did I burn a day by fake hammering? It's a FAKE HAMMER. As in, DOES NOT ACTUALLY COUNT AS A HAMMER.
I don't know where you're getting this "think town would hammer" thing from. You didn't answer any of my questions btw

Xiao Long · Post Post #481 (isolation #117) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:34 pm

In post 479, Wossi wrote:If the whole point was to evoke some kind of "gotcha" moment with me, why would you do it when I was offline? I'm either actively reading, refreshing, and posting or not at all. You did your gambit while I was asleep and got everyone's reaction but mine. Why?

I didn't know you were offline, I never check online status. I didn't really get anyone's reactions though because of Derpy doing what he did. If I did get some reactions from other people, that would have still been worth it. But now because of Derpy it ended up giving me pretty much nothing.

Xiao Long · Post Post #483 (isolation #118) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:48 pm

Still not going to answer my questions?

Xiao Long · Post Post #495 (isolation #119) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:36 pm

In post 486, Nauci wrote:
In post 481, Xiao Long wrote:
In post 479, Wossi wrote:If the whole point was to evoke some kind of "gotcha" moment with me, why would you do it when I was offline? I'm either actively reading, refreshing, and posting or not at all. You did your gambit while I was asleep and got everyone's reaction but mine. Why?
I didn't know you were offline, I never check online status. I didn't really get anyone's reactions though because of Derpy doing what he did. If I did get some reactions from other people, that would have still been worth it. But now because of Derpy it ended up giving me pretty much nothing.
Not nothing. I gave it a 20% chance Derpy leaped in to make sure his co-scum didn't fall for the gambit. That's... Like 1/50th a crumb's worth of info.

I was thinking that initially. Either way, his actions were scummy to me.

In post 491, Lord Gurgi wrote:Xiao Long: I don't think your questions are made in good faith. I think they're (feeble) attempts to muddy the waters. I won't be answering them.

So when I question your argument about fake hammers because it doesn't make sense it's somehow muddying the waters, but you asking the ridiculous questions to begin with wasn't?
Cute.

Xiao Long · Post Post #510 (isolation #120) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:09 pm

In post 500, Lord Gurgi wrote:DH: Liar.

XL: Law of Holes.

You talkin to yourself?

Xiao Long · Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:48 pm

In post 512, Nauci wrote:So who's ready for the day to be over?

Nah, Mumbles approaching prod territory.
At least wait for either him to post or be replaced imo
I want info on his slot before day 1 ends.

Xiao Long · Post Post #537 (isolation #122) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:17 am

In post 536, Wossi wrote: Derpy just wants so badly to be this kind of savant, this misunderstood genius that can catch scum in one post. And his relentless pursuit of that fantasy is preventing him from playing a pro-town and reasonable game. He may not be scum, but he's certainly giving them a lot of help.

I've been screaming this for a while now.

Xiao Long · Post Post #538 (isolation #123) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:27 am

The only scummy vibe I'm getting from Anime is sheepishly promoting the wagon on my while not actually voting on it. Makes sense to me to vote for your scum reads, not just talk about it. Don't really have much else to go on besides that.
Not really getting much of a scummy vibe from Wossi. I've honestly ignored everything said about the interaction in the neighborhood as I've no way of verifying it myself.

Lynch today should be among Derpy, Porkens, Chicken.

Xiao Long · Post Post #539 (isolation #124) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:31 am

That said, Mumble's been gone for 2 days and 17 hours and has only made 4 posts. I voted before to pressure him into posting, but apparently he's just site-flaked. I really want to know more about this slot, and it's frustrating me that at this moment I won't be able to.

Xiao Long · Post Post #541 (isolation #125) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:07 am

Nope, I haven't really made a case against you. You're only my third option and it's more to do with feeling than anything else.
Derpy I think is actually scum, Porkens I'm judging by his effort.

Xiao Long · Post Post #543 (isolation #126) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:19 am

Yup, and?

Xiao Long · Post Post #545 (isolation #127) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:24 am

I'm pushing Derpy tho

Xiao Long · Post Post #548 (isolation #128) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:07 am

I would 100% be ok with lynching you, yes.

Xiao Long · Post Post #549 (isolation #129) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:10 am

Porkens too.

Xiao Long · Post Post #551 (isolation #130) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:29 am

If what?

Xiao Long · Post Post #556 (isolation #131) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:47 am

I think Porkens is broken.

Xiao Long · Post Post #564 (isolation #132) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:58 am

Nope, we hold off until the Mumble situation is sorted, then either grill him or his replacement.

Xiao Long · Post Post #565 (isolation #133) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:59 am

@MOD Can I just prod request Mumble now? It's only like three hours off.

Xiao Long · Post Post #567 (isolation #134) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:29 am

I'm not trying to rush him or anything, I'm just asking for it to be done. I don't know whether he's here now or not, I figured I'd add the time just in case he was here and was like "Oh, it's not been exactly 72 hours".

Anyways, I'm just looking for anything that will give me a read on that slot. I'm basically disregarding Mumble's first posts. When I first called attention to them, I thought he'd return and comment on it. Now it seems he just hasn't come back to the site so the "lurking" thing from him doesn't seem scummy anymore.

Xiao Long · Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:20 am

In post 570, Nauci wrote:VOTE: mumble

In post 573, Nauci wrote:
In post 571, Lord Gurgi wrote:Nauci run me through why you aren't voting for Wossi if you need that explained. The coordinated move of both Nauci and XL to Mumble makes me think I may have been wrong about Derpy.

Seeing as how Mumble is entirely AFK and needs a prod, I can use my vote elsewhere!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

This is such a weird sequence since I was talking about the same thing earlier.

Xiao Long · Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:29 am

lol did you ask that? I kind of ignore most of your posts.

Would be fine as in it would not bother me. The if is "if you were lynched".
Under what conditions? I guess the conditions of others not wanting to lynch Derpy or you.

Xiao Long · Post Post #610 (isolation #137) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:00 pm

^scum
Hey, I can Pornkens post too! =D

Xiao Long · Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:32 pm

Finally you vote.

Xiao Long · Post Post #616 (isolation #139) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:20 am

It's fine. This town really enjoys being wrong.

Xiao Long · Post Post #619 (isolation #140) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:30 am

Quote three scum posts by him?

Xiao Long · Post Post #621 (isolation #141) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:46 am

Ok
How?

Xiao Long · Post Post #623 (isolation #142) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:05 am

Where are the scum posts lol
You’re making the claim, you provide the proof.

Lol at you being mad about 165 tho. That’s literally what it seems like you are doing.

Xiao Long · Post Post #627 (isolation #143) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:14 am

Derpy: Piglet wasn’t asking me.

Chicken: My town read of Wossi comes from him not doing really anything scummy but a wagon is still being orchestrated for really weak reasons which leads me to believe multiple scum are involved with it.

Xiao Long · Post Post #628 (isolation #144) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:15 am

Literally half of Derpys argument is about the neighborhood which is worthless to me since I can’t verify anything he’s said and he’s proven to be an anti town player.

Xiao Long · Post Post #634 (isolation #145) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:28 am

In post 629, Apple Jack wrote:Yes and you haven’t responded to him. Don’t ask me for things until you satisfy your prior obligations.

In post 627, Xiao Long wrote:Derpy: Piglet wasn’t asking me.

Really?

If you want when I get to a computer I can link a bunch of posts but I think almost all of them are scummy and since i think he’s scum it’s just going to be conf.bias

Link me the scummiest posts you think he’s made and why you think they’re scummy. Bonus points if you can do it without mentioning the neighborhood.

In post 630, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 628, Xiao Long wrote:he’s proven to be an anti town player.
That’s hilarious coming from you. Claiming you could be scum is anti-town.

I’m scum hunting and pushing scum reads to be lynched. That’s literally the definition of a town player.

Claiming I could be scum as a rvs joke post vs literally fucking up town strategy? Gee, I wonder which is worse.

You haven’t been scum hunting. You’ve focused on two players the whole time without considering you could be wrong which just leads to you ignoring anything scummy other people are doing. I don’t think that’s very town homie.

Xiao Long · Post Post #635 (isolation #146) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:32 am

In post 631, Porkens wrote:
In post 619, Xiao Long wrote:Quote three scum posts by him?
...Ok you win.

vote: XL

Thanks for admitting you can’t.

In post 632, Apple Jack wrote:I don’t understand why xl is falling on the sword for his scum mate.

It’s almost as if some people don’t believe everything you say.

In post 633, Chickadee wrote:
In post 628, Xiao Long wrote:Literally half of Derpys argument is about the neighborhood which is worthless to me since I can’t verify anything he’s said and he’s proven to be an anti town player.
Wossi hasn't tried to deny it. I think that's pretty telling. I think he's trying to backpedal through a look-im-being-honest kind of approach.

No, but he gave reasons that I agreed with.
He could be. I don’t think that’s the case, but could be.

Xiao Long · Post Post #639 (isolation #147) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:53 am

Link to confirmation?

Xiao Long · Post Post #641 (isolation #148) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:06 am

Not denying is not the same as confirming.

Xiao Long · Post Post #643 (isolation #149) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:19 am

In post 183, Wossi wrote:Oof I was so excited when I got neighbor cause I thought I was gonna get a new best friends to share secrets with and act like Bert & Ernie. That obviously didn't happen.

Here's Derpy's mistake. Voting for someone on page two DOES NOT MEAN I think that someone is scum. I am 100% percent not ready to lynch Derpy. If he flew up to -1, -2 in the next couplle hours, I would jump off this wagon very quickly.

I didn't think my posting in the neighbor thread needed to match my posting here. I decided the bedt thing to do there would be to treat each other like confirmed town and share information. Best case, we're both town and have a sounding board for shared ideas. Worst case, one of is scum, and eventually after how many pages of playing town is going to slip up and give them selves away.

From the very beginning, Derpy wasn't willing to participate. Why? Don't know....we had nothing to lose but still, he shut the neighborhood thread down after 4 posts.

Derpy is either bold scum or moronic town. If he is town, he's probably assuming a two-man neighborhood would contain 1 maf and 1 town, which is fundamentally erroneous.

This is 183.

I have thoughts on this.
I’ll let Wossi respond to this before I post my thoughts.

Xiao Long · Post Post #645 (isolation #150) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:29 am

Maybe, maybe not.

Xiao Long · Post Post #650 (isolation #151) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:43 am

Or they’re actually different things.

Xiao Long · Post Post #653 (isolation #152) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:15 am

Chicken: it’s what happened, so?

Tchill so desperate for a vig to out itself.

Xiao Long · Post Post #655 (isolation #153) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:50 am

That was my other line of thought but wasn’t gonna mention it yet

Xiao Long · Post Post #657 (isolation #154) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:58 am

You’re so eager to kill town, Derps

Xiao Long · Post Post #659 (isolation #155) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:10 am

Unfortunately in this case those two are one in the same

Xiao Long · Post Post #662 (isolation #156) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:29 am

Derpy: Wouldn’t be the first time majority of town thought someone was scum purely because of scum ballooning the fuck out of things that aren’t really scummy.

Wossi: So why tell him in neighborhood you’re going to treat him like conftown, but do otherwise in game thread?

Xiao Long · Post Post #669 (isolation #157) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:22 am

Blowing up over exactly two posts regarding a possibility is probably more distracting, Gurgle

Xiao Long · Post Post #670 (isolation #158) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:28 am

Also wtf, why would you ask the mod to remove you, Derpy? That’s one of the dumbest things I’ve heard.

Xiao Long · Post Post #672 (isolation #159) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:30 am

Like even if you are town and think he’s scum, why wouldn’t you continue talking to him and use it to your advantage? This is the biggest problem I have with Derpys neighborhood argument, none of his decisions actually make sense from a strategic viewpoint.

Xiao Long · Post Post #673 (isolation #160) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:31 am

In post 671, Lord Gurgi wrote:
In post 669, Xiao Long wrote:Blowing up over exactly two posts regarding a possibility is probably more distracting, Gurgle
Crazymaking.

Huh?
Nvm your explanations are fucking obnoxious to read.

Xiao Long · Post Post #675 (isolation #161) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:34 am

Stop baiting me into asking you for clarity that you’re not going to give me.

Xiao Long · Post Post #678 (isolation #162) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:42 am

Except most people have been scum reading me since before you replaced in. You’re giving yourself too much credit. Besides, I’m referring to your nonsensical fake hammer being scummy argument.

Xiao Long · Post Post #685 (isolation #163) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:48 am

In post 679, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 670, Xiao Long wrote:Also wtf, why would you ask the mod to remove you, Derpy? That’s one of the dumbest things I’ve heard.
Why would I want to be in a forum with someone i think is scum and I’m not going to communicate with?

In post 681, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 672, Xiao Long wrote:Like even if you are town and think he’s scum, why wouldn’t you continue talking to him and use it to your advantage? This is the biggest problem I have with Derpys neighborhood argument, none of his decisions actually make sense from a strategic viewpoint.
Why would I want to talk to scum? I’d rather lynch him.

Because it could provide information useful for town? Because he could fuck up and name his buddy? Because it has zero benefit for town to leave the thread?

Xiao Long · Post Post #686 (isolation #164) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:49 am

In post 682, Lord Gurgi wrote:
In post 678, Xiao Long wrote:Except most people have been scum reading me since before you replaced in. You’re giving yourself too much credit. Besides, I’m referring to your nonsensical fake hammer being scummy argument.
If you want to attribute your wagon to your play rather than my argument, that's fine with me.

Cause that’s what I said.

Xiao Long · Post Post #689 (isolation #165) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:56 am

I’m already voting him. I thought fucking up the fake hammer and doubling down by claiming it was stupid was exposing enough. It’s the rest of these Ruskins you’re gonna have trouble convincing.

Xiao Long · Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:01 am

In post 691, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 685, Xiao Long wrote:Because it could provide information useful for town? Because he could fuck up and name his buddy? Because it has zero benefit for town to leave the thread?
I already explained this a while back. Anything I have to say can be made here. Hiding information from town is bad and antitown. We need to be transparent so we can make an informed decision.

That’s why I hate when masons have private conversations in their thread and why most masons end up looking scummy. No scum is going to reveal their partners. Don’t be Derpy

Oh, ok. Gaming people and slipping partners is not a thing. Got it.

Xiao Long · Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:17 am

In post 695, Apple Jack wrote:You don’t even believe me when I recap exactly what happened in the Hood. To talk with him in the Hood I’d have to

1. Lie and pretend I think he’s town - can’t do that
2. Engage in enough conversation and hope he slips something- small chance imo
3. Convince town it actually happened and get them to listen to me. - unlikely to happen since he’s confirmed scum now and isn’t lynched.

I didn’t believe you because your actions didn’t make sense.
What’s the problem with lying to someone you think is scum in order to avoid getting a target on your head while hunting for their partner? That would ensure you could make your neighborhood argument in a later day when it would have more impact and you would have more evidence to support your argument.

Small chance again? Really? Let me just scream it so you get it:
IT DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER IT HAS A BIG OR SMALL CHANCE OF HAPPENING, THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS THAT THERE IS A CHANCE.
If you still don’t get it, I’m going to print out a copy of this post, lazer engrave it to a baseball bat and beat it over your head until it sinks in.

Your point 3 is weak as fuck because most people agreed with you and were just waiting to lynch until lurkers started posting.

Xiao Long · Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:34 am

Ok 1. I said what’s the problem with lying to scum?
And 2. Lol it’s literally a game revolving around lying and seeing through others lies. If you really had a problem with lying, you would replace out of every scum game.

Xiao Long · Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:43 am

Tchills posting has gone so far down hill it’s underground now. Kind of sad.

Xiao Long · Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:52 am

In post 708, Wossi wrote:Clarification: Derpy's dishonestly in post 535 where he implies the neighborhood is active when its not, where he implies that I was still talking to him when I wasn't

Didn’t really have anything to say on that matter as I thought you made your point well enough.

In post 709, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 703, Xiao Long wrote:Ok 1. I said what’s the problem with lying to scum?
And 2. Lol it’s literally a game revolving around lying and seeing through others lies. If you really had a problem with lying, you would replace out of every scum game.
1. Is have to have lots of conversations perpetuating a lie. Not gonna do that for a small percentage payoff.
2. I lie very little as scum actually. It’s a blessing so many townies play like shit. I just push people who do things I legitimately scum read.

Alright, enjoy your moral high horse in a forum game, dawg.

Xiao Long · Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:31 am

Alright Wossi and Derpy, none of this replacing out AtE bullsht. Gimme a good clean fight.

Spoiler:

Xiao Long · Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:38 am

I’ve currently got you picked. We’ll see how you perform in the middle rounds.

P-edit: Consider this part of my post out of game, but I agree with LG here. Don’t use replacing as a tool. If you are seriously frustrated and want to replace out that’s understandable, but using it as a weapon kind of spoils the fun.

Xiao Long · Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:42 am

You and Derpy? Hey that makes it easy!

Xiao Long · Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:38 pm

What makes you so certain he’s not scum?

Xiao Long · Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:56 pm

That’s soooo weak

Xiao Long · Post Post #768 (isolation #176) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:35 pm

You’re all boring now, the only thing I want before this day ends is info on the Mumble slot

Xiao Long · Post Post #770 (isolation #177) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:59 pm

That just makes it sound to me like you’re ok lynching anyone as long as it’s town.

Xiao Long · Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:21 pm

Maybe you should actually engage instead of shitposting then?

Xiao Long · Post Post #798 (isolation #179) » Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:35 am

Welcome, davesaz, enjoy reading 30 pages

Xiao Long · Post Post #811 (isolation #180) » Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:25 am

In post 806, Porkens wrote:
In post 795, Xiao Long wrote:Maybe you should actually engage instead of shitposting then?
There’s too much noise. Ask me questions xl.

Ok
Why aren’t you voting derpy?

Xiao Long · Post Post #816 (isolation #181) » Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:39 am

Anime still dumb enough to want to lynch me. Shocker.

Xiao Long · Post Post #822 (isolation #182) » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:57 am

In post 820, Porkens wrote:
In post 811, Xiao Long wrote:
In post 806, Porkens wrote:
In post 795, Xiao Long wrote:Maybe you should actually engage instead of shitposting then?
There’s too much noise. Ask me questions xl.
Ok
Why aren’t you voting derpy?
I replaced into mini normal 1951, and read the game before I got my role pm or knew who'd Id be replacing.

What's the relevance?

Xiao Long · Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:46 am

In post 827, Nauci wrote:
In post 816, Xiao Long wrote:Anime still dumb enough to want to lynch me. Shocker.
This is such a useless, inflammatory, baseless OMGUS post you can do better than this shit

Sorry, when people think I would ever play a level 1 scum game, I can only think it's dumb. Though I meant more her case rather than her as a person, but I'm a cunt who says things badly.

In post 828, Porkens wrote:
I thought he was scum. I was preparing to replace in as scum. When I got my role pm, he was town. Then I got lynched

Holy shit, a real answer.
Alright, what do you think about Anime's insistence that I would play a level 1 scum game?

Xiao Long · Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:56 am

In post 833, Porkens wrote: I don't care about that at all.

You asking me to analyze another players meta of YOU seems entirely pointless.

It's not. I'm basically asking you what you think of her lazy approach to scumreading me. Whether you scumread me or not should be irrelevant to your opinion of the way she's participated in my wagon.

In post 834, Porkens wrote:
In post 831, Wossi wrote:People need to stop letting Nauci coast. If they only way I'm gonna get taken seriously on this one is getting lynched and flipping green, so be it.
Nauci isn't coasting.

VOTE: wossi

XML, if you are town, I can't imagine you have a problem lynching wossi today.

The only way I'm pro-Wossi lynch is if it's a me vs Wossi situation. Right now I'm still scumreading Derpy and some others.

Xiao Long · Post Post #884 (isolation #185) » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:34 am

Nauchos is fine for today, can be looked at better on D2. Dump your votes on Derpy or LG

Xiao Long · Post Post #886 (isolation #186) » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:55 am

That’s fine then. After they lynch me they’ll lynch you straight away.

Xiao Long · Post Post #889 (isolation #187) » Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:32 am

It would change a couple reads, but not everyone. Some of the people scumreading Wossi I would still scumread. Some I would town read. If we end up flipping Wossi today, I'll be more specific Day 2.

Xiao Long · Post Post #923 (isolation #188) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:02 am

In post 920, Nauci wrote:
People who town read Wossi: help me see why?

Mostly cause I didn't really see the case on him to begin with, and his later interactions with Derpy seemed townish.
Plus some of the insistence on Wossi is bothering me.

Xiao Long · Post Post #950 (isolation #189) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:46 am

In post 948, Wossi wrote:
In post 943, Nauci wrote:God Wossi I keep trying to read you as not scummy and you keep posting scummier.

It's like you want to die or something. Every case you push either has bad logic or bad premises but you don't back down on them.

It's honestly comical to accuse me of coasting and derpy of being under the radar.

Chickadee you are spot on about tchill. He's been resting on his laurels for 20 pages.
Like I could laugh, literally every sentence in this post is wrong.

Nah, the last sentence about Tyrrion was pretty spot-on.

Xiao Long · Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:58 pm

As far as I remember I’ve always used at least one nick name, since i returned to the site, all my current games I use nick names for everyone.

Xiao Long · Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:56 am

VOTE: tchill

Xiao Long · Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:07 am

In post 1049, Apple Jack wrote:lol literally nothing has happened from the VC on Saturday and the one today. This is why i said we should just lynch somebody. dragging the day when the lynch is narrowed down is a waste.

if your votes aren't on either Wossi or XL your vote is being wasted.

Ultimatums with four days before deadline probably isn’t the most towny thing

Xiao Long · Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:12 am

“If your votes aren’t on these two, they’re wasted” sounds like one to me

Xiao Long · Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:26 am

Derpy: You already know what I mean so how about you learn the definition of dickhead.

Nauchos: Nah, not even posting a case. He’s spent the entirety of the day trying to strong arm a Wossi lynch and trying to out a vig.

Xiao Long · Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:29 am

“Boy I REALLLLY HOPE a big shoots Xiao hehe, totally not rolefishing btw”

Xiao Long · Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:29 am

A vig, not big

You get my point

Xiao Long · Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:36 am

He’s either trying to out a vig or trying to set up a fake claim as SK. There’s pretty much no other reason for him to bring it up constantly.

Xiao Long · Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:51 am

Naive because I call out bullshit when I see it? K dawg, ur such a gud playor

Xiao Long · Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:59 am

that’s retarded as fuck