Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:22 pm
I can buy that.
It was a slip tho.In post 727, Alisae wrote:I think I need to explain how Grey fucked up.
He called Naomi's thing a "Slip." but was that a slip? No, it wasn't.
Scum like to push slips. They like to have a justified vote.
So thats why my tell on Grey works.
It's not a slip because it's safe to assume that scum do not have daytalk unless the following is true.In post 521, Gamma Emerald wrote:That's not a slip, town has done it before.In post 489, -Grey- wrote:"given" is not an assumption, it's a statement of fact.In post 488, Naomi-Tan wrote:its not in the rules so Im assuming.In post 483, -Grey- wrote:How do you know this?In post 482, Naomi-Tan wrote:given that Reds have no day talk
VOTE: Naomi
You slipped hard.
thanks captain obvious. Those 2 options have already been discussed. I played a game with Naomi where encryptor was mentioned and discussed.In post 729, Alisae wrote:It's not a slip because it's safe to assume that scum do not have daytalk unless the following is true.
A. Scum has an Encryptor.
B. They do not have an Encryptor which the mod is required to announce it according to this: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game
Before this game have you ever heard of an encryptor?In post 731, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Who here thought there was actually a day chat? I never once thought there was and I don't see how anyone here could have as well given the information in the OP.
Vote some nerds when ywall get the chance please, otherwise it looks bad cause to me this reads to me as ywall have no strong scumreads.In post 733, XnadrojX wrote:Not Voting 4 (Ircher, TheRealGin-N-Tonic, Rainbowdash)
Do you think that the people who are trying to push it are scummy for pushing it.In post 736, Rainbowdash wrote:1) The "scum don't have day talk" is not a slip. It is something that you should always operate on as being true unless something presents itself to directly say otherwise. If Naomi said scum DO have day talk, that would be worth jumping on. As it stands she said something that I would bet all my bits everypony else assumed is the case.
This is quite a good point actually. The Naomi "scumslip" was pretty fucking iffy. I still like the Asphodel wagon, but I could definitely be persuaded to look at Grey today.In post 727, Alisae wrote:I think I need to explain how Grey fucked up.
He called Naomi's thing a "Slip." but was that a slip? No, it wasn't.
Scum like to push slips. They like to have a justified vote.
So thats why my tell on Grey works.
Remember that? When he voted Ircher because he posted his win rate? Its completely null, its just provides a baseline read on how good a player is. Funny enough he actually calls HIMSELF a bad player at a later point, making his weak "case" even weaker. Even more he calls Ircher a good player at a later point.Already making excuses for his poor decisions.
Both of those are never explained. You also cant call somepony out for a chainsaw when there isn't a scum flip.Between his chainsawing and efforts to undermine town cohesion, I think Ircher has put forward sufficient effort to earn a wagon.
He is scum because I look like scum and he is attacking me.He has plenty of experience to know that there is no scum motive in my posts. He's just pushing a superficial read to look town.
How is this even a defense? He literally is trying to say that because he is not trying to lead lynches (which he had been on Ircher for a long time) he cant be scum. Also is apparently sheeping a player which with the same logic would suggest that he is following scum?It's not like I'm trying to put myself in the position of town leader to direct lynches, so what does standing out do to advance a scum wincon?
Remember when Ircher was scum for making "superficial cases" earlier?Town often makes superficial cases on d1 because there isn't anything more substantial to build a case around when the game is just getting started.
In post 588, -Grey- wrote:So, Gamma is voting me for voting Naomi over a slip, but completely ignoring 2F who is not only sheeping my push but advancing with it after Gamma stated in thread that he doesn't believe it's a slip.
Town Gamma would have picked up on 2F continuing to push what he considers a non-slip and voted him.
Possible Gamma/2F team. (I read 2F as possible scum for other reasons)
VOTE: Gamma
"Sucked into" what Grey said was absolutely a slip and would never vote elsewhere. Grey continues to try and shift the blame to anypony else and discredit those attacking him.Naomi, 2F is pushing both of us because he got sucked into the scumslip and now he's butthurt over me calling him out for attaching himself to me since page two.
@mod, is the fact that the 2 votes on grey and gamma are being counted as 1 vote intentional, or a mistake?
Like on one hand you have a point, on the other anyone who's played a game with an encryptor shouldn't automatically assume scum have daytalk. If Naomi said probably that would change everything.In post 736, Rainbowdash wrote:1) The "scum don't have day talk" is not a slip. It is something that you should always operate on as being true unless something presents itself to directly say otherwise. If Naomi said scum DO have day talk, that would be worth jumping on. As it stands she said something that I would bet all my bits everypony else assumed is the case.