Mini 1998: Super Smash Mafia for Nintendo Switch! [GAME OVER

[Alisae]

Rask your avi sucks

yolo the beef boi with me

Only if you explain to me what the fuck this is because I have no idea how to interpret it and it actually looks kind of cool

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le pro reads xd

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[Alisae]

@replacing in on my main

in the event you're not aware of the kiana bam

[Alisae]

@replacing in on my main

in the event you're not aware of the kiana bam

Kiana got banned?

Ye thats something you should be keeping an eye on

[Alisae]

Also for not exactly being a fan of anime movies
just finished watching the ngnl movie, it was a fun watch.
I'd give it a 7/10 maybe an 8

[Alisae]

massclaim
Roy, VT.

Disagree

A massclaim is fine and probably preferable day before lylo
Cop
JOAT with a 1-shot vig
2-shot vig

Thats a lot of power for town already, I doubt there's anymore existing.

Like you don't want a "surprise fake guilty" or some stupid shit on LyLo so lets get this out of the way now.

[Alisae]

Setup rant

IF CLAIRE IS TOWN

With only town power being revealed, this is VERY townsided. I think Key made it even MORE townsided saying the game followed Normal guidelines, but even without key saying that, I don't think people are going to look at our mod and say "Yeah, thats the guy that gives wolves vig shots" even thought that is something that they could use here, even if it was in the form of a 1-shot vig.

Also wolves either have like a JK or RB/Doc combo at this point.
RB alone isn't enough to deal with the amount of killing town has, so its either JK for that defensive utility or a Roleblocker AND a Doctor. I think the RB/Doc combo is likely because that would make this setup balanced because it allows wolves to attempt to stop the randomly placed cop that key put in the setup for ~reasons~ and protect themselves from the vigs. All of this is taken into consideration if Claire is town.

IF CLAIRE IS A WOLF

And honestly, I am starting to think that this is a more realistic glance at town power.

Cop
2-shot Vig
Non-Consecutive Doc

Vs

JOAT (1-shot Commute, 1-shot Rolestop, 1-shot Roleblock)

The commute allowing the JOAT to protect itself, the Rolestop allowing protection of their wolf buddies and to mess with cop results if they accurately guess who the cop is targeting, and a roleblock to deal with a vig/cop if the rolestop is used.

Basicly, from a setup point of view, I think Claire claimed their real role and planned to shoot a wolf on N2 as a gambit to attempt to use that cred to help her coast to victory with all of her cred and win the game. Like her CCing Pint could have easily been a strategic move to set something like this up.

IF CLAIRE IS AN SK

90% of the time this won't be the case because our wincon literally says that we have to eliminate the mafia and not all threats.
10% of the time if Claire is actually an SK, then I am reporting Key to the list mods because unadvertised bastard game and repping out.

[Alisae]

Setup rant

IF CLAIRE IS TOWN

With only town power being revealed, this is VERY townsided. I think Key made it even MORE townsided saying the game followed Normal guidelines, but even without key saying that, I don't think people are going to look at our mod and say "Yeah, thats the guy that gives wolves vig shots" even thought that is something that they could use here, even if it was in the form of a 1-shot vig.

Also wolves either have like a JK or RB/Doc combo at this point.
RB alone isn't enough to deal with the amount of killing town has, so its either JK for that defensive utility or a Roleblocker AND a Doctor. I think the RB/Doc combo is likely because that would make this setup balanced because it allows wolves to attempt to stop the randomly placed cop that key put in the setup for ~reasons~ and protect themselves from the vigs. All of this is taken into consideration if Claire is town.

IF CLAIRE IS A WOLF

And honestly, I am starting to think that this is a more realistic glance at town power.

Cop
2-shot Vig
Non-Consecutive Doc

Vs

JOAT (1-shot Commute, 1-shot Rolestop, 1-shot Roleblock)

The commute allowing the JOAT to protect itself, the Rolestop allowing protection of their wolf buddies and to mess with cop results if they accurately guess who the cop is targeting, and a roleblock to deal with a vig/cop if the rolestop is used.

Basicly, from a setup point of view, I think Claire claimed their real role and planned to shoot a wolf on N2 as a gambit to attempt to use that cred to help her coast to victory with all of her cred and win the game. Like her CCing Pint could have easily been a strategic move to set something like this up.

IF CLAIRE IS AN SK

90% of the time this won't be the case because our wincon literally says that we have to eliminate the mafia and not all threats.
10% of the time if Claire is actually an SK, then I am reporting Key to the list mods because unadvertised bastard game and repping out.

I'm quoting this for a pagetop
this is just some thoughts I had before I went to bed so I am going to sleep on this and see how people respond.
Goodnight.

[Alisae]

Hold up, who claimed cop and non-consecutive doctor...?

No one claimed Doc I'm just doing setup spec.
Rask flipped cop N1

[Alisae]

Dunn you can talk to me before I go to bed if you're willing to interact with me for a bit.
Like I'm probs resetting completely, the only reads I think I really have right now are
Gamma wolf
Acryon maaaaybe town I would like to maybe go through the ISO a bit.

Everyone else I have to kinda re-evaluate.

[Alisae]

Pint was either blocked or Acryon was protected.

[Alisae]

Like that goes in all sinareos here.

[Alisae]

Like if Claire is a wolf, she is capable of fakeclaiming 1-shot vig as a set of JOAT powers or something and shooting Piss with the factional kill for cred.
Like that is IN her wolfrange.
Let's not say it isn't, because everything leading up to that piss flip definitely IS in her wolfrange.

And Idunno if I'm just being stupid and need some sleep or if I'm actually on to something here.

[Alisae]

Look if anyone shows up at 5am to interact with me on this then please show up otherwise as soon as my ipad dies I'm going to sleep.

Like, if I am being stupid, I want to know that I am being stupid.

[Alisae]

Either way we massclaim here so a better idea of what the setup actually looks like is established before lylo

[Alisae]

Pint was either blocked or Acryon was protected.

also no matter what, a wolf performed one of these actions. Or even both if Claire is town and wolves have an rb and a doc for power.

[Alisae]

Ok ipad is at 3% I expect people tell me I'm stupid or not by the time I wake up (if I manage to fall asleep)

But basicly massclaim today
If no one claims doc/protective then we lynch Claire because she claimed her factional kill on her wolfbuddy.
If a doc is claimed like non-consec or odd-night or 2-shot even then Claire can still be a wolf but its iffy because a wolf!doc could be claiming a gated version of their role because
A. I set them up to do that or/and
B. It'll make their claim look safer
C. Wolves probably didn't kill to make a doc claim look more believable and maybe lynch Claire

If there is a doc and it is actually town then lynch Claire.
If there is a doc and it is a wolf then Claire is town.

Ipad is dieing goodnight

[Alisae]

Actually my ipad is still very much living for some reason.

Like we're massclaiming today because then we don't have to deal with this bullshit in a 5p lylo in the event we lynch town.

[Alisae]

ok look I can't sleep so I'll probably be up but I'm letting the thread breathe a bit and I want people to tell me if I'm stupid or not before I proceed with whatever it is I feel like needs to be done.

[Alisae]

The logic in that doesn't even make sense because that's a desperation play and it's not like me or PK were even in danger of being lynched either. It's just a theory with a lot of holes. We need to figure out why the mafia kill was stopped twice unless we're assuming scum shot Wisdom along with pints shot (maybe) but then it doesn't explain why acry is alive
Pedit: Did I not just state it in that post? Like part of me wants to lynch Alisae out of pure anger but I got this feeling when I was scum in the lovers game so I think that means Alisae is town I think we need a mass claim to see roles and if anything makes much sense

It makes sense because there is no wolfkill, and if no one claims to have stopped a wolf kill N2 then you're outed :/
Hence why we massclaim

[Alisae]

wow im so fuckig stupid and forgot mariar's the joat

you literally made a table keeping track of claims dude...

[Alisae]

Maria isn't scum. At worst she's like a weird SK. I think acryon still is the lynch.

I'm starting to question if you know word for word what the town wincon is at this point
Aka I'm starting to think you're a wolf.

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Beta Emerald	Cuckichi	Pinocchio	Torque
???	???	2xVIG	???
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Le grill	Index	Dun	Acrylic
JOAT	VT	???	???
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this was your last read on me
I wasn't in your suspect pool, get rekt
VOTE: Joey

I literally wolfread everyone except maybe dunn and acryon right now

Please help me

[Alisae]

CAN WE FINISH MASSCLAIM THANK YOU VERY FUCKING MUCH WE ARE FINISHING MASSCLAIM TO DETERMINE IF CLAIRE IS AN OUTED WOLF

That means Dunn and Kokichi need to claim soon.

[Alisae]

wow im so fuckig stupid and forgot mariar's the joat

you literally made a table keeping track of claims dude...

aka alcohol

lolok

[Alisae]

Claires not a wolf, alisae why do you woflread me ?????

Okay, can you atleast agree with me on something.
If there is nothing that is claimed that stops a N2 kill, then Claire is an outed wolf.

[Alisae]

I'll buy that wolves ALSO shot Wis
That is if you can convince me WHY wolves shot Wis.
Like what reads did Wis have that were deemed worth shooting him over

[Alisae]

Fun vote, if this is not a buss it means that acryl and koki are soft cc hole hole

Acryon claimed vt already I think

[Alisae]

Claires not a wolf, alisae why do you woflread me ?????

Okay, can you atleast agree with me on something.
If there is nothing that is claimed that stops a N2 kill, then Claire is an outed wolf.

no, claire's a wolf if the mod don't know understand normal guidelines + pinnochio lied and blatantly confirmed that his cc shot scum + claire shooting his partner for gambit value

AKA not happening ever

Explain what normal guidelines have to do with claire being a wolf?
I'm not seeing why that has to do with anything but if you can explain it to me that would be nice.

Piano shot Wis, its possible his shot aligned with the factional kill but I don't see why wolves would do that like there is no heart to wolves shooting Wis I think.

This isn't exactly a gambit that Claire would have to bring up either. Pisskop could bring it up. In fact, I think he was likely to do so. The gambit value is A LOT over this coming from someone who HAS done this before (or something similar) and has gotten a don corleone nom over it. It's not the value we're questioning, its if Claire would agree to it if it was presented by someone else. And I think she would.

[Alisae]

I'll buy that wolves ALSO shot Wis
That is if you can convince me WHY wolves shot Wis.
Like what reads did Wis have that were deemed worth shooting him over

1. Why do you think wolves wouldnt want to shoot his ass ?
2. Why do you assume that wolfes eats people because of their reads ?

Wis lead on town but he was fairly unlynchable as long as im alive with mariar. PLUS imo pinnochio is just terrible that im believing he really did shoot wisdom, he felt insulted when i said he was baiting mariar

I quite frankly don't think wolves shot Wis I'm presenting that as a "well where as could the factional kill go"
And Wis is extremely charismatic and a threat if wolves were scared of him.

And no, if Wis' reads were bad and he kept on pushing town, he would have gotten lynched.
Plus to continue to open up that mislynch, the people defending wis get shot over wis himself.

[Alisae]

1. Wolves shooting their partners is okay by normal guidelines last I checked. You don't need a vig to shoot your wolf buddy with, you can do it with the factional kill.
2. Agreed.
3. Means nothing unless we determine where the kill went.

[Alisae]

oh please alisae, how can you even think claire'S scum here ? and wis WAS never getting lynched ever

Look, its possible if you were in a body bag.


I think I'm making you lose your shit so I'm going to wait for Kokichi to claim before bringing this up further.

[Alisae]

Joey lets finish massclaim and agree to disagree for now.

[Alisae]

If Kokichi is a protective and made this post then I am lynching him

In the event I have a guilty. Should i claim it now?

because this is stupid.

[Alisae]

Alisae : read pk vs gamma, im think its theater

Where does it start?
And Gamma is like, my biggest wolfread.
I'm on my iPad so I CAN read it as much as I prefer not to read gammaposts, but I don't know if it'll change my opinion much?

[Alisae]

ok this is stupid

READ YOUR FUCKING WINCONS THERE IS NO SK

[Alisae]

SKs by normal guidelines cannot win with the town.

[Alisae]

I'm like 99% sure that is the case
Otherwise there's no point to a SK just make it a full vig lmao

[Alisae]

Actually there is no sample VT Role PM and normal guidelines requires that.
So yeah it's likely that the mod doesn't understand normal guidelines lmfao

[Alisae]

You could even go far as to guess why would the mod voluntarily specify in the wincon that there's no sk ? maybe because theres 2 le town le vig and expect them to fuck the town up ????

Honestly i have a hard time believing both proposition : the 2 vig one and the mariar hard ccing there as plain old goon + shooting his parter + pinnochio lying and selfing

option 1 is more likely

I mean with a cop in the setup I think Key 100% expected the vigs to shoot the cop's clears without the cop knowing who cleared them thats the only assumption I think this setup is balanced on

[Alisae]

maybe, im bad at setup spec

Luckily you have someone who's good at it!

[Alisae]

<----- Bonus points I'm town too so I'm not baffling you with bullshit.
Also Claire if she is town because she has a basic common sense of it since she somewhat relies on it, perhaps a bit too much

[Alisae]

We'll talk when Kokichi claims

[Alisae]

VOTE: Kokichi
Then you can die today

[Alisae]

no we are massclaiming today this is something I want done period.

[Alisae]

No thanks. I'll read and decide what we do.

Its your funeral.

[Alisae]

Claire - JOAT (Vig, other powers unclaimed, she can do this if she wishes)
Joey - VT
Gamma - VT
Dunn - VT
Me - VT
Acryon - VT
Kokichi - Doesn't want to claim for some reason is probably a wolf.

[Alisae]

Also, lets get this out of the way now if we haven't already

PLEASE ASK FOR AN ACCELERATED NIGHT THANK YOU

I'm pretty sure Key will let us have one if we ask for it.

[Alisae]

ty Key or atleast lower the night deadline to 48 hours 72 is a bit much imo

[Alisae]

Yes I'm a wolf.

How did you know?

These posts actually come across to me as nervous.
Why are you feeling that way?
Because I know you usually joke about it but here it comes off as nervious or something idunno it seems wierd to me :/

[Alisae]

ok tbf the kill aligning with Pint didn't exactly come into my head right away I guess it was just my inner moonlogic.

[Alisae]

But yeah the team is probably just Gamma Kokichi
so...

[Alisae]

Yeah okay Logic Bomb incoming, I think Kokichi is always a wolf here, its just a matter of if he is with Acryon or with Gamma and his flip should tell us the answer to that

[Alisae]

LOGIC BOMB

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Part 1: Kokichi has been softing protective.

They have been laying down softs that can be reasonably pointed to and indicated as softs.
Also their resistence to claiming comes off as they want to stay hidden even though at this point they're completely outed.
HOWEVER

　　　　　　　　　

Part 2: Kokichi is NOT a protective

1784 is pratically suicidal to make as a protective unless you have a BP or a commute or some sort of life saving device, and even then you don't need to bring that attention to yourself, you really don't. Hence why I won't believe any protective claims, and playing suboptimally isn't really an excuse. THEREFORE

　　　　　　　　　

Part 3: Wolves plan was to initate a massclaim

This could be seen by Gamma saying Massclaim GO. NOTE that Gamma could still be town, it's not really indicative of wolf!Gamma,

what's important is that Kokichi claims.

I supported it because I wanted to see what happened, but also because I don't any surprise lolfakeguilties in LyLo, also at the time I thought that Claire might have been an outed wolf and thought that massclaim would help shed light on that. But I'm probably just wrong on Claire and wolves could have also shot Wis or something. Anyways, carrying on.

　　　　　　　　　

Part 4: Kokichi wanted to claim that he was the reason there was no kill for towncred

However this gets stopped because of setup speculation I did, saying that I think a doc or any protective coming out now (or any like BPs or Commuters etc) and plus, this is pressure that I would be putting on Kokichi in 1899. Like its a fairly easy, low effort gambit to do. It doesn't take up that much resources either.

　　　　　　　　　

Part 5: Kokichi attempts to backtrack

Since it was mutally agreed upon that we're massclaim, he doesn't know what he's panics. He says he won't claim, and his recent interactions with me look like he's nervious. Like basicly his plan was ruined, what else was going to happen? Claim VT? I'll get to why that doesn't really prevent himself from dieing. Either way, boom we got a wolf.

　　　　　　　　　

The Heart of the Gambit

Kokichi needed to do this because Claire and Joey TR me, and he was on the chopping block, Claire even said this earlier in a post that if our reads merged, it would point to Kokichi and Gamma. They knew they were fucked if they straight up killed, so they went with this gambit to attempt to get some cred before anything happened. But now that their chances at attempting the gambit are gone, Kokichi kind of just doesn't know what to do, hence his behavoir towards me. The nail in the coffin is honestly the FoS on me because at that point it just seems like he's caught when he says that I'm "Reaching" for things. Kokichi laid the last minute softs to do the gambit, so it was worth a try.

Now that he can't he can't claim VT because he's on the chopping block, he can't claim BP/Commuter because he'll get lynched, and he can't claim Doc because that would probably get him lynched as well.

　　　　　　　　　

Okay we lynch Kokichi, what's next?

Look at the flip, because Kokichi is flipping a wolf, and when he does, his role will determine who his buddy is.
Is it a goon/rb? If so, the last wolf is probably Gamma via play.
Is it a Doc/JK? If so, lynch Acryon gg ez game.

If Kokichi is a RB, why can't Acryon be a wolf?
Well he can, but the logic of Pint was blocked because he shot Acryon is stupid. Wolves didn't know that Pint was going to shoot Acryon, and wolves could have been aiming aimlessly with the RB.
If you think Acryon is a wolf because of this logic, please stop playing mafia, ty.

Now if you think Acryon is a wolf based on their play, thats a different story for a different time.

　　　　　　　　　

Conclusion

Kokichi is a wolf who tried to setup a no kill gambit in attempt to milk towncred from it, however it backfired as soon as he saw that his plan wasn't going to work or change his current situation.
Kokichi is always the correct lynch today, please clap ty.

[Alisae]

Because of the lack of a kill and Kokichi's play before and after the lack of a kill, this reasoning is possible for Alisaes. What do you think everyone?

[Alisae]

Alisae might just be scum here, because she's reaching on everything here. Literal every post feels like reaching.

Actually why yes, I have theories and I am trying to bounce them off people.
Moonlogic by nature is reachy.
I want people to tell me if I am being stupid or not, and I clearly was with suggesting Claire was mechguiltied when Wolves could have shot Wis.
So yes, I am blatantly reaching because I want people to tell me if I'm being stupid or not.

And the samething applies to my case on you

[Alisae]

Maria isn't scum. At worst she's like a weird SK. I think acryon still is the lynch.

Also, this a post where wolf!Kokichi is attempting to buy into scum!Claire paranoid I have.
Except he is suggesting her as an SK.
And that is fucking impossible because of our town wincons, which blatantly suggest that we have to elimate the mafia not all threats.
And this fucking guy would KNOW that if he had a town wincon.
But he doesn't have a town wincon, so he is trying to suggest the Claire SK angle.
If he doesn't have a town wincon, then SURPRISE, HE IS A FUCKING WOLF.
TADA

ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE, IT REALLY ISN'T.

[Alisae]

BONUS POINTS
It has also been mentioned at SoD that our wincons suggest that there cannot be an SK
and he is still suggesting this.

[Alisae]

Yeah okay Logic Bomb incoming, I think Kokichi is always a wolf here, its just a matter of if he is with Acryon or with Gamma and his flip should tell us the answer to that

its funny that you think I will be lynched in any universe this game.

ok tough guy.

[Alisae]

Gamma I'll take you off my script if you learn how to use the multiquote feature.

[Alisae]

Beta emerald	Cuckishi	Acrylic
VT	???	???
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ???	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ???
Le grill	Index	Dun
JOAT	VT	???
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ???

We have 1 ml left, i think we lynch all those 3 slot and we win

Need help between Kokichi/Dunn but I agree somewhat

I don't think this would be a post if that were true, I think if Kokichi was clear to Claire then Claire would be trying to move her out of this PoE pool?

[Alisae]

Lol

[Alisae]

That's what you call bad modding.

[Alisae]

Whatever look, Claire can come in and prove or disprove that this kokichi is confirmed town to her bullshit or whatever, I'm probably voting Gamma or Kokichi regardless today so...

[Alisae]

Like if that is absolutely what you need then so be it.

[Alisae]

Claire is Kokichi confirmed town to you yes or no?
Just answer that plz.
If the answer is no it would be preferible if you tied a Kokichi vote to that as well

[Alisae]

oh ur actually going 2 leave us like dat
w0w ok dats rude as fk
ok i c how it is I'ma go take a nap then cuz I'm exhausted kaythankbai

[Alisae]

I want Kokichi to die.

[Alisae]

@mod can you prode acry he has not checked this game in a long ass time

literally said he was on v/la chill

[Alisae]

Like I literally described what we do after a wolf!Kokichi flip don't just ignore me

[Alisae]

Hey guys. Just phone posting quick but I’m V/LA. I’ll be back Monday morning as usual.

Skimmed over things for now and looks like we are claiming. I’m VT.

yeah literally said he was on v/la.

[Alisae]

No you can claim and get it over with if its true

[Alisae]

No you can claim and get it over with if its true

I will literally be quoting this until you stop being annoying.

Pedit: lol

[Alisae]

Hold on let me get the DRv3 game you're known for making this bullshit up to stall your lynch for whatever reason and you're probably doing it again when Claire has 0 idea of what is going on and you're not a FN because an ungated FN makes the the setup way too townsided because that makes literally 3 confirmed towns plus a cop

[Alisae]

I can't be confirmed right now though. And if you think of my flavor, you should know I have to lie.

Okay, its confirmed. Kaede has seen my motive video now. She knows I'm town. I was a 1 shot Friendly Neighbor. Riiiight, Kaede?

I just wanted to see how Kiyo would act. What do you all think of how he reacted?

I mean he was town he but the point is he is willing to lie about this shit to distract and be blatantly anti-town when people were wagoning him.

There are more quotes probs but I don't want to ctrl + F and go through that 640 Something posts.

No Claire isn't pretending because she would be more annoyed at me and be telling me to get off you in a lot more stricter and aggressive way then she currently is.

[Alisae]

Also you wouldn't be getting fos'ed on D4 if you were a FN because you would have told more then just Claire.

Like this is so much effort to prove that an obviously fake FN claim isn't real, but you're annoying and you aren't as good as you think you are, so drop you're fucking ego and coperate. If you were a good of townplay, this wouldn't be an issue, you wouldn't be getting wagoned, and if your reads were good we would have won by now, because you would have that reputation.

Sorry not sorry.

[Alisae]

Also bonus points: The gambit he did in DRv3 was believable even though loldayFNs because
A. Towns are stupid
B. It was Day 1.

Here its D4.

[Alisae]

Please don't let Kokichi baffle you with bullshit
PLEASE

[Alisae]

JOEY YOU ARE FUCKING TERRIBLE

[Alisae]

THIS IS DAY 4 HE COULD HAVE SHARED HIS CONFIRMED TOWNINESS WITH 3 PEOPLE INCLUDING CLAIRE

[Alisae]

TO STALL HIS LYNCH
DUH

[Alisae]

Claire
Is Kokichi confirmed town to you
Yes or no?

[Alisae]

LYNCH HIM
LYNCH HIM

[Alisae]

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[Alisae]

NO KOKICHI IS NOT TOWN

[Alisae]

WE ARE LYNCHING THE FUCKER WHO CLAIMED FN TO TRY TO STALL HIS LYNCH

[Alisae]

I'm rallied up because we caught a wolf that literally no one wants to vote for ~reasons~

[Alisae]

It's nothing against you Claire I promise <3

[Alisae]

Like if you're taking me being rallied up and aggressive about catching a wolf as an attack on your mid day naps then I'll just solve the issue and rep out a game of mafia isn't really worth ruining a friendship over.

[Alisae]

Is kokichi not a doctor

Doctor? Me? Uhh.. Haha.. No.....? Maybe...? Either way, just lynch gamma!

MURDER MURDER KILL KILL

[Alisae]

I think Alisae might be scum here, sadly. I think she realizes that the only way they can win is mislynching me and then hoping to win in 3 way after her partner is lynched.

YEP
CAUGHT WOLF

WE CAUGHT ONE
CAN WE VOTE IT NOW
IT IS LITERALLY NOT THAT HARD

[Alisae]

Ali don't be mad take a deep breath and try to bullet your points into reason this is a game for fun and I want you to have fun. If we keep yelling we're never gonna solve anything this is a team game

I already have...
And because I have, look at what this came too...

[Alisae]

Maria, I know I'm the ultimate liar, but do you trust me?

I trust you.

STOP
DON'T TRUST WOLVES
WHAT ARE YOU DOING

[Alisae]

LOGIC BOMB

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Part 1: Kokichi has been softing protective.

They have been laying down softs that can be reasonably pointed to and indicated as softs.
Also their resistence to claiming comes off as they want to stay hidden even though at this point they're completely outed.
HOWEVER

　　　　　　　　　

Part 2: Kokichi is NOT a protective

1784 is pratically suicidal to make as a protective unless you have a BP or a commute or some sort of life saving device, and even then you don't need to bring that attention to yourself, you really don't. Hence why I won't believe any protective claims, and playing suboptimally isn't really an excuse. THEREFORE

　　　　　　　　　

Part 3: Wolves plan was to initate a massclaim

This could be seen by Gamma saying Massclaim GO. NOTE that Gamma could still be town, it's not really indicative of wolf!Gamma,

what's important is that Kokichi claims.

I supported it because I wanted to see what happened, but also because I don't any surprise lolfakeguilties in LyLo, also at the time I thought that Claire might have been an outed wolf and thought that massclaim would help shed light on that. But I'm probably just wrong on Claire and wolves could have also shot Wis or something. Anyways, carrying on.

　　　　　　　　　

Part 4: Kokichi wanted to claim that he was the reason there was no kill for towncred

However this gets stopped because of setup speculation I did, saying that I think a doc or any protective coming out now (or any like BPs or Commuters etc) and plus, this is pressure that I would be putting on Kokichi in 1899. Like its a fairly easy, low effort gambit to do. It doesn't take up that much resources either.

　　　　　　　　　

Part 5: Kokichi attempts to backtrack

Since it was mutally agreed upon that we're massclaim, he doesn't know what he's panics. He says he won't claim, and his recent interactions with me look like he's nervious. Like basicly his plan was ruined, what else was going to happen? Claim VT? I'll get to why that doesn't really prevent himself from dieing. Either way, boom we got a wolf.

　　　　　　　　　

The Heart of the Gambit

Kokichi needed to do this because Claire and Joey TR me, and he was on the chopping block, Claire even said this earlier in a post that if our reads merged, it would point to Kokichi and Gamma. They knew they were fucked if they straight up killed, so they went with this gambit to attempt to get some cred before anything happened. But now that their chances at attempting the gambit are gone, Kokichi kind of just doesn't know what to do, hence his behavoir towards me. The nail in the coffin is honestly the FoS on me because at that point it just seems like he's caught when he says that I'm "Reaching" for things. Kokichi laid the last minute softs to do the gambit, so it was worth a try.

Now that he can't he can't claim VT because he's on the chopping block, he can't claim BP/Commuter because he'll get lynched, and he can't claim Doc because that would probably get him lynched as well.

　　　　　　　　　

Okay we lynch Kokichi, what's next?

Look at the flip, because Kokichi is flipping a wolf, and when he does, his role will determine who his buddy is.
Is it a goon/rb? If so, the last wolf is probably Gamma via play.
Is it a Doc/JK? If so, lynch Acryon gg ez game.

If Kokichi is a RB, why can't Acryon be a wolf?
Well he can, but the logic of Pint was blocked because he shot Acryon is stupid. Wolves didn't know that Pint was going to shoot Acryon, and wolves could have been aiming aimlessly with the RB.
If you think Acryon is a wolf because of this logic, please stop playing mafia, ty.

Now if you think Acryon is a wolf based on their play, thats a different story for a different time.

　　　　　　　　　

Conclusion

Kokichi is a wolf who tried to setup a no kill gambit in attempt to milk towncred from it, however it backfired as soon as he saw that his plan wasn't going to work or change his current situation.
Kokichi is always the correct lynch today, please clap ty.

BECAUSE I MADE THIS POST, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS HAS COME TO?

IT HAS COME TO KOKICHI TRYING TO FAKECLAIM FRIENDLY NEIGHBOUR TO TRY TO COAST FOR A WIN.
CAN WE NOT LET HIM DO THAT PLEASE.

[Alisae]

THEN VOTE KOKICHI

[Alisae]

IT WILL LITERALLY BE SELF-EVIDENT ON WHAT TO DO NEXT AFTER HE FLIPS WOLF JUST FUCKING DO IT.

[Alisae]

Nah, i want mariar to tell me if she had any kind of check on the guy or something

WITH A FUCKING COP IN THE SETUP YOU THINK CLAIRE IS GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER FUCKING PEEK

OH MY GOD NO

[Alisae]

I want kokichi to tell me have many times he visit'd me if any.

PLEASE DO NOT LIE TO SUPPORT WOLVES BECAUSE YOU THINK THEY ARE TOWN
LIKE I AM GOING TO BE PISSED IF YOU LIE FOR KOKICHI WHEN ANOTHER CONFIRMED TOWNIE TILTS THE TOWNSIDEDNESS OF THE SETUP TO A 85-15 RATIO.

PEDIT: DUDE JOEY HE'S JUST A WOLF JUST LYNCH HIM.

[Alisae]

I want kokichi to tell me have many times he visit'd me if any.

PLEASE DO NOT LIE TO SUPPORT WOLVES BECAUSE YOU THINK THEY ARE TOWN
LIKE I AM GOING TO BE PISSED IF YOU LIE FOR KOKICHI WHEN ANOTHER CONFIRMED TOWNIE TILTS THE TOWNSIDEDNESS OF THE SETUP TO A 85-15 RATIO.

PEDIT: DUDE JOEY HE'S JUST A WOLF JUST LYNCH HIM.

if hes wolf it'll show dont worry, time is our tool

IT LITTERALLY HAS SHOWN ITSELF.

[Alisae]

LYNCH HIM

[Alisae]

LIKE PLEASE JUST DO IT.

PEDIT: NO YOU TRUST ME FOR ONCE.

[Alisae]

Alisae I need your help really quick.
What do you think scum is likely to have pr wise

I said this already they would probably a doc/rb OR a JK, but most likely doc/rb.

[Alisae]

Yeah Full Doc and RB because of the randomly splashed cop and 2 separate vigs.

[Alisae]

JK also has strong defensive value and can protect wolves from vigs

[Alisae]

Hence why if Kokichi flips wolf protective you lynch Acryon on the spot

[Alisae]

Like please do not let Kokichi lolcat and get away with it
Don't townread him for it
Treat him as a guiltied wolf.
Like more "I townread Kokichi because stupid reason here hur dur" and I will lose it.

[Alisae]

Kokichi can you claim this is important cause if you visit'd me 0 times I'm just assuming scum did something

Okay, look. I didn't visit you. But, I think something here is VERY obvious. So I didn't visit you, but I did. Okay? Or am I being too confusing for you?

THIS IS A FUCKING NORMAL GAME YOU EITHER DID OR YOU DIDN'T

[Alisae]

i townread kokichi because stupid reason here hur dur

OH MY FUCKING GOD

[Alisae]

MariaR we don't need more bad setup spec off the tail of Alisae and Joey, can we just lynch Gamma and end the day?

NO WE ARE LYNCHING KOKICHI

[Alisae]

i townread kokichi because stupid reason here hur dur

OH MY FUCKING GOD

ahahahha, tbh i want his claim and im gucci for the rest

IT IS FUCKING OBVIOUS HE ISN'T GOING TO CLAIM SO JUST VOTE: KOKICHI
IT REALLY IS NOT THAT HARD

[Alisae]

there was Motion at Kokichi's n1 zzzz

WE CAUGHT A WOLF
WE CAUGHT A WOLF

PEDIT: NO MOTION MEANS EITHER SOMEONE VISITED YOU OR YOU VISITED SOMEONE
HENCE WHY
WE CAUGHT A WOLF

[Alisae]

OKAY WE CAN LYNCH HIM NOW RIGHT?

[Alisae]

OKAY WE CAN LYNCH HIM NOW RIGHT?

let him claim

HE'S NOT CLAIMING
AS MUCH AS YOU WANT HIM TO CLAIM
AND REPEAT
PLEASE CLAIM
HE'S NOT CLAIMING
SO JUST LYNCH

[Alisae]

Kokichi please, hardclaim. We have a ml and you trying to outwit the table just became much more a detriment to town than the other way around

HE'S A WOLF
HE'S NOT GOING TO BE COOPERATIVE
BECAUSE IF HE WAS
SURPRISE
MAYBE HE WOULD BE ACTUALLY TOWN
BUT NOOOOOOOOOOO
HE DOES THIS SHIT

SO VOTE HIM PLEASE.

[Alisae]

I WILL CHILL WHEN I SEE THAT SWEET SWEET WOLF!KOKICHI FLIP

GIVE THIS TO ME DUDE
FUCKING GIVE THIS TO ME

[Alisae]

BECAUSE TADA YOUR A WOLF
THUS YOU CANNOT BE TRUSTED

[Alisae]

NO
KOKICHI IS NOT TOWN
STOP THAT

[Alisae]

Aaaaa I think kokichi is town why can't it just be acry/gamma

CAN YOU PLEASE JUST TRUST ME FOR ONCE, I KNOW IM A LIAR BUT TRUST ME THIS ONE TIME. IF I WAS SCUM I WOULD HAVE FAKE CLAIMED SOME BULLSHIT AS TO WHY I MOTIONED DAY 1.

OR YOU DO THIS APPROACH BECAUSE YOU'RE A WOLF
YOUR PLAN AT THE START OF THE DAY GOT RUINED
AND NOW YOU CAUSED COMPLETE CHAOS AND HAVOC IN THE TOWN TO MALICIOUSLY TRY TO DELAY YOUR LYNCH
YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY YOU DID THAT?
I KNOW WHY
YOU KNOW WHY
AND WE BOTH KNOW THAT
YOU ARE A FUCKING WOLF

[Alisae]

lol alisae, will you be mad at me if i go outside koki ?

my vote is on gamma
Ali trust me ty

YES I WILL BE MAD
NO I WILL NOT SHEEP
WE ARE VOTING THE OUTED WOLF

[Alisae]

KOKICHI HAD MOTION N1 BECAUSE HE HIS A WOLF PROTECTIVE WHO PROTECTED ACRYON LYNCH PLEASE

[Alisae]

KOKICHI HAD MOTION N1 BECAUSE HE HIS A WOLF PROTECTIVE WHO PROTECTED ACRYON LYNCH PLEASE

You honestly believe that after Day 2 and 3 that I can be teamed with acryon?

YES

[Alisae]

In all seriousness I'm repping out if people don't vote Kokichi this whole day has been fucking absurd because of him and it is because he is a wolf and if ywall and to throw the game over that then you can do it without me because quite frankly I don't trust ywall to lynch not a wolf when we have lynched only town for the past 3 days.

[Alisae]

Like bring me a wolf
Or bring me kokichi
They are both the same thing
And this is not good for my health

[Alisae]

And I'm also not going to give in because if we lynch town today and kokichi is still alive, and I am alive tomorrow I am instavoting Kokichi.

And I don't think I should be doing that in an F5 LyLo so just give me this

[Alisae]

In all seriousness I'm repping out if people don't vote Kokichi this whole day has been fucking absurd because of him and it is because he is a wolf and if ywall and to throw the game over that then you can do it without me because quite frankly I don't trust ywall to lynch not a wolf when we have lynched only town for the past 3 days.

What if hes town ?

HE'S NOT

[Alisae]

alisae's points are valid tho, but i trust my judgement, my read on mariar's and mariar's read above hers

YOUR JUDGMENT LYNCHED TOWN

[Alisae]

LIKE FUCKING TRUST ME FOR ONCE AND GIVE IN JUST GIVE ME THIS.

[Alisae]

LIKE KOKICHI IS LITERALLY LOLCATTING THE WHOLE FUCKING DAY AND DOING THE MOST FUCKING WOLFY SHIT AND YOU ARE TOWNREADING IT LIKE DO YOU WANT TO LOSE
I AM GENUINELY CURIOUS

[Alisae]

lolol alisae if im wrong lets say we are even okay?

Pedit : which one ? pinnochios or the meat boi ? meat boi was an objectively correct read that i rushed, pinnochio scumclaimed and self as town when i told him to shut the f up and stop being an asshole gamethrower

YOU'VE BEEN WRONG THE WHOLE GAME AND MY VOICE LITERALLY SCREECHED JUST TO SAY THAT

I ACTUALLY SCREAMED
I MIGHT ACTUALLY BREAK SOMETHING

[Alisae]

alisae's points are valid tho, but i trust my judgement, my read on mariar's and mariar's read above hers

YOUR JUDGMENT LYNCHED TOWN

Vote Count:
InfernoBrafin -
Gamma Emerald -
Raskolnikov -
pinturicchio -

MariaR (L-6)

Beefster -

Joey_, pisskop, Torque, Gamma Emerald, Index Chan, Raskolnikov, Kokichi Oma (LYNCH)

MariaR -
Kokichi Oma -
Dunnstral -
Joey_ -

Dunnstral, Beefster (L-5)

Index Chan -

InfernoBrafin (L-6)

acryon -

pinturicchio (L-6)

Torque -
pisskop -
No Lynch -

Not Voting: acryon
With 13 Alive, it's 7 to Lynch!

Vote Count:
Wisdom -
Gamma Emerald -
pinturicchio -

Torque [L-5]

MariaR -

Dunnstral [L-5]

Kokichi Oma -
Dunnstral -
Joey_ -
Index Chan -
acryon -

Kokichi Oma, MariaR [L-4]

Torque -

Wisdom, Gamma Emerald, acryon, Index Chan, pisskop, pinturicchio [LYNCH]

pisskop -
No Lynch -

Not Voting: Joey_, Dunnstral
With 11 Alive, it's 6 to Lynch!

Today's Stage: Gerudo Valley

Vote Count:
Gamma Emerald -
pinturicchio -

Dunnstral, pinturicchio, Joey_, Index Chan, MariaR, Gamma Emerald [LYNCH]

MariaR -
Kokichi Oma -
Dunnstral -
Joey_ -
Index Chan -
acryon -
No Lynch -

Not Voting:
With 8 Alive, it's 5 to Lynch!

Oh, the irony. She was on every town lynch, but tries to discredit Joey's judgment.

HEY THERE IS CONTEXT TO THIS
DAY 1 I SHEEPED JOEY
DAY 2 I SHEEPED WIS
DAY 3 I VOTED THE VIG WITH THE TERRIBLE SHOT.

THE FACT YOU ARE REMOVING CONTEXT FROM THIS IS WOLFY AS FUCK

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I never wanted torque lynched ever. Pin was....lol well pin I've said 1 scum in acryon/pin all game still feel that's true
Pedit: why can't you trust

me

Ali your reads were wrong too you thought I was wolf the whole day even after I vigged a wolf that I had to do backflips to help show you like let's lynch in acry/gamma ali and if it's town I'll concede

YES BECAUSE PEOPLE CONVINCED ME THAT I WAS WRONG AND THAT IT WAS POSSIBLE FOR WIS TO HAVE BEEN SHOT THIS IS DIFFERENT

YOU HAVE SOMEONE
WHO IS LITERALLY BEING AS ANTITOWN AS POSSIBLE
BEING ANTITOWN
AND ITS NOT TOWNY
IT IS WOLFY
AND YOU ARE TOWNREADING IT FOR REASONS

[Alisae]

lolol alisae if im wrong lets say we are even okay?

Pedit : which one ? pinnochios or the meat boi ? meat boi was an objectively correct read that i rushed, pinnochio scumclaimed and self as town when i told him to shut the f up and stop being an asshole gamethrower

YOU'VE BEEN WRONG THE WHOLE GAME AND MY VOICE LITERALLY SCREECHED JUST TO SAY THAT

I ACTUALLY SCREAMED
I MIGHT ACTUALLY BREAK SOMETHING

i was wrong on beef, wasnt wrong on pinnochios. Torque was bad poe but i was heavily influenced by wisdom who i hard townread so eH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i dont know what to tell you, i actually think dun's scummy for not wanting to lynch koki tho

DUNNSTRAL IS ALSO LITERALLY FUCKING USELESS.

[Alisae]

whats the votecount?

[Alisae]

If gamma is town I am allowed to instavote kokichi tomorrow yes?

[Alisae]

Then I am not hammering Gamma unless you allow me to have Kokichi tomorrow.

[Alisae]

Like Dunn is useless but he is probably just town because I think wolf!dunn takes advantage of the fact that if kokichi is actually town, then that helps him win the game, and he helps me with that but instead he is just being fucking useless.

[Alisae]

Like Wolf!Dunn is not helping his wincon by doing nothing he and he gets caught if he just does nothing he needs something to jump and latch onto that's not PoE hence why Kokichi is the perfect thing for him to hop on to.
However that makes ME more frustrated because this is like always a fucking wolf lynch

[Alisae]

Like Dunn is useless but he is probably just town because I think wolf!dunn takes advantage of the fact that if kokichi is actually town, then that helps him win the game, and he helps me with that but instead he is just being fucking useless.


Like Dunn is useless but he is probably just town because I think wolf!dunn takes advantage of the fact that if kokichi is actually town, then that helps him win the game, and he helps me with that but instead he is just being fucking useless.

youre doing it the other way around, it does help him wins the game if koki is town.. but keeping both your asses in lylo

Nah he has a fighting chance in lylo if he lynches kokichi today if he's town

Which kokichi is not town so can we lynch him?

[Alisae]

If Gamma flips wolf
I will give in and lynch Acryon or Dunn, whatever you two want.

If Gamma flips town
I am instavoting Kokichi and you are giving that to me.

[Alisae]

That is the plan do we agree?

[Alisae]

Yes I an banking on the game on kokichi being a wolf

[Alisae]

VOTE: Gamma
mkay I take Joey's vote as a yes.

[Alisae]

Also FYI Kokichi's disappearing is wolfy.

[Alisae]

speed night please sweet jesus fuck

this

[Alisae]

Dunn is town we'll be winning with him

[Alisae]

Kokichi you are voted for the accelerated night yes?

[Alisae]

Ali...don't let me go

I luv ya too <3

[Alisae]

Alisae i hope you see my pov and mariar's pov at the end of the game

If Gamma is a wolf I will sheep you sure.
If Gamma is town you're giving me Kokichi and you won't hear the end of it

[Alisae]

I went to go take a shower I'm somewhat back now

[Alisae]

Multiquote please and thank you you will help out literally everyone.

[Alisae]

Yeah...I think this is flipping town.

Good fucking going Claire and Joey.
Good fucking going.

[Alisae]

Yeah...I think this is flipping town.

Good fucking going Claire and Joey.
Good fucking going.

aahahhaa well, my read was mostly on ko and not on gamma but yea this is prob flipping green lol

"NO KOKICHI IS TOWN" HE SAYS
"NO KOKICHI IS TOWN" SHE SAYS

[Alisae]

KOKICHI

[Alisae]

WE ARE LYNCHING KOKICHI

[Alisae]

so who are we lynching?

My bad, I thought Gamma was scum

Please stop playing mafia.

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ahahahahaha well he might still be town eh ahahaha thats the worst part

NO KOKICHI IS NOT TOWN.

[Alisae]

Like actually Dunn.
I know Bee used to tell me way way back that he thought you were actually good but then you stopped caring.
And I straight up believe that this isn't a game that is for you unless you want to care.

I'm being an ass because I am fucking salty as fuck that I got strongarmed onto a town lynch when we literally had a wolf who decided to lolcat and out themselves the whole day.

[Alisae]

to be fair, even if you dont agree i think koki, if mefia, played that well

NO HE DIDN'T HE GOT CAUGHT AND HE WAS FUCKING OBVIOUS THE WHOLE DAY HE DID NOT PLAY WELL THIS IS NOT A WOLF WIN IT IS A TOWN LOSS BECAUSE OF THIS DECISION

LIKE OH MY GOD

[Alisae]

Claire I am just
Really salty right now
But its okay because I'm getting my Kokichi lynch and I'll be happy.
Right?

[Alisae]

Like I am allowed to feel this fucking salty right now.

[Alisae]

Like even GAMMA could agree that I am allowed to feel this fucking salty.
And I fucking HATE HIM

[Alisae]

i know, im just weak to good ate, its my achilles heel

its okay its okay.
You'll just make up for it by doing the one thing thats right
And thats voting kokichi tomorrow.
Right?

[Alisae]

You can REDEEM yourself Joey.
there is redemption.

[Alisae]

Ywall lynched a poor Gamma Emerald for no reason
Gamma did nothing wrong
Well he might have done wrong things but he wasn't as wolfy as Kokichi
He wasn't worse then Kokichi
Think of the Gammas
Think of the Alisaes
And tomorrow
Vote Kokichi to redeem yourselves.

[Alisae]

Well look if I am alive I am 100% instavoting Kokichi the most obvious fucking wolf in the game but
"HE'S TOWN" HE SAYS "KOKICHI IS TOWN" SHE SAYS.

[Alisae]

btw i just seriously think koki's doc but EH

YES
A WOLF DOCTOR
WHO PROTECTED ACRYON NIGHT 1.

[Alisae]

lol, the acryon failed shot + lack of a scum shot n2 + n3 nothing into a ml, theres a lot to be explained before instant voting on lylo, but you can do what you want after its claimed, deal ?

You made me lynch town and you said I can have it and that you would let me have it THEREFORE YOU ARE GIVING THIS TO ME

[Alisae]

LIKE I WENT OVER THIS
KOKICHI GOES "I AM THE REASON THE KILL WAS STOPPED GIVE ME TOWNCRED"
AND YOU FUCKERS WILL GIVE HIM TOWNCRED BECAUSE YOU ARE ALL AWFUL AT THIS FUCKING GAME
AND I WILL BE LIKE "THATS A SCUM GAMBIT"
AND IN FACT HAVE ALREADY MADE A POST ON WHY IT IS A SCUM GAMBIT WHY KOKICHI DID IT AND EVERYTHING LEADING UP TO THAT POINT.
BUT YOU DON'T CARE BECAUSE GUESS WHAT HAHAHA YOUR EGOS ARE SO FUCKING BIG AND HAHAHA WOW I CARE ABOUT MY READS MORE THE FUCKING ALIS BECAUSE ALI IS FUCKING USELESS AND GARBAGE AT MAFIA THEREFORE E MUST BE WRONG HAHA

[Alisae]

Sure.
Good luck getting a hard claim out of him when he literally refused to claim the whole fucking day today because SURPRISE HE IS A FUCKING WOLF

[Alisae]

Maria and joey if you're both town and think this is my scum game, I'm not sure what else I can do to change your mind

i think ure doc man, but this is silly, alisae is town and will vote you regardless of my reads and actions

He is a doctor.
One that is aligned with the wolves.

[Alisae]

Alisae I pray you're scum this game. Because if you're making condescending wall posts as town when you're the one who is wrong, then you need to reevaluate yourself.

SAYS THE MOST UNCOOPERATIVE PERSON THE WHOLE GAME
PEOPLE WANT YOU TO CLAIM
YOU TOLD THEM NO
PEOPLE PUSHED YOU FOR A CLAIM
YOU TRIED TO FAKECLAIM FRIENDLY NEIGHBOUR
PEOPLE GOT ANNOYED WITH YOUR BULLSHIT AND PUSHED FOR YOU A CLAIM
YOU STILL HAVEN'T CLAIMED BTW
AND PEOPLE STILL PUHSED YOU FOR A CLAIM
AND YOU STILL DIDN'T CLAIM

LIKE YOU SHOULD HAVE 100% BEEN THE LYNCH TODAY

[Alisae]

Lynch*

Also mafia doctor cant kill, right? Then Alisae how does your logic make any sense

yes a wolf doctor can kill nothing says they can't.

[Alisae]

Supposedly a wolf doc doesn't get detected by gunsmiths but I'm not so sure since I don't use gunsmiths that often in games.

[Alisae]

mafia doctors cant kill

ok where are you even reading this hold on

[Alisae]

A Doctor that cannot self-target and protects their target from one kill is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. A Mafia Doctor in a Normal game does not return a guilty result to a Gunsmith (unless it is part of a Jack of All Trades), although this may be different in Theme games, depending on the moderator's interpretation. A Doctor cannot stop a Strongman from committing a kill, nor a Weak role from dying due to targeting anti-town. Protection would also fail if targeting a Macho or Ascetic role, although the Doctor should not be told if this happens, just like if they were blocked.

GUYS SHOW ME WHERE WOLF DOCS CAN'T PREFORM A KILL
I AM BLIND
I CANNOT SEE IT

[Alisae]

HELL WHY DOES THAT EVEN MATTER KOKICHI ISN'T SOLOWOLFING THEY HAVE PISS AND WHOEVER THEIR 2ND BUDDY IS TO PERFORM THE KILL FOR THEM PLEASE STOP BEING BAD AT MAFIA THANK YOU.

[Alisae]

OH WAIT
WOLF DOCS CAN PERFORM A KILL
YOU JUST HAD THAT FALSE INTERPRETATION IN YOUR MINDS THAT THEY COULDN'T BECAUSE YOU COME FROM FUCKING EM

[Alisae]

mafia doctors cant kill

Alisae would know this since she's all about mechanics. If she really believed her logic, she would push acyron all day.

Look through my games.
I have used several wolfdocs in my games
All of them have been allowed to shoot.
I have only used a gunsmith once
And it was not in a setup with a wolfdoc.

[Alisae]

SO YEAH
WOLFDOCS CAN KILL NOW STOP BEING DUMB PLEASE.

OR DO I HAVE TO SAY IT IN RAINBOW.

[Alisae]

LOGIC BOMB

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Part 1: Kokichi has been softing protective.

They have been laying down softs that can be reasonably pointed to and indicated as softs.
Also their resistence to claiming comes off as they want to stay hidden even though at this point they're completely outed.
HOWEVER

　　　　　　　　　

Part 2: Kokichi is NOT a protective

1784 is pratically suicidal to make as a protective unless you have a BP or a commute or some sort of life saving device, and even then you don't need to bring that attention to yourself, you really don't. Hence why I won't believe any protective claims, and playing suboptimally isn't really an excuse. THEREFORE

　　　　　　　　　

Part 3: Wolves plan was to initate a massclaim

This could be seen by Gamma saying Massclaim GO. NOTE that Gamma could still be town, it's not really indicative of wolf!Gamma,

what's important is that Kokichi claims.

I supported it because I wanted to see what happened, but also because I don't any surprise lolfakeguilties in LyLo, also at the time I thought that Claire might have been an outed wolf and thought that massclaim would help shed light on that. But I'm probably just wrong on Claire and wolves could have also shot Wis or something. Anyways, carrying on.

　　　　　　　　　

Part 4: Kokichi wanted to claim that he was the reason there was no kill for towncred

However this gets stopped because of setup speculation I did, saying that I think a doc or any protective coming out now (or any like BPs or Commuters etc) and plus, this is pressure that I would be putting on Kokichi in 1899. Like its a fairly easy, low effort gambit to do. It doesn't take up that much resources either.

　　　　　　　　　

Part 5: Kokichi attempts to backtrack

Since it was mutally agreed upon that we're massclaim, he doesn't know what he's panics. He says he won't claim, and his recent interactions with me look like he's nervious. Like basicly his plan was ruined, what else was going to happen? Claim VT? I'll get to why that doesn't really prevent himself from dieing. Either way, boom we got a wolf.

　　　　　　　　　

The Heart of the Gambit

Kokichi needed to do this because Claire and Joey TR me, and he was on the chopping block, Claire even said this earlier in a post that if our reads merged, it would point to Kokichi and Gamma. They knew they were fucked if they straight up killed, so they went with this gambit to attempt to get some cred before anything happened. But now that their chances at attempting the gambit are gone, Kokichi kind of just doesn't know what to do, hence his behavoir towards me. The nail in the coffin is honestly the FoS on me because at that point it just seems like he's caught when he says that I'm "Reaching" for things. Kokichi laid the last minute softs to do the gambit, so it was worth a try.

Now that he can't he can't claim VT because he's on the chopping block, he can't claim BP/Commuter because he'll get lynched, and he can't claim Doc because that would probably get him lynched as well.

　　　　　　　　　

Okay we lynch Kokichi, what's next?

Look at the flip, because Kokichi is flipping a wolf, and when he does, his role will determine who his buddy is.
Is it a goon/rb? If so, the last wolf is probably Gamma via play.
Is it a Doc/JK? If so, lynch Acryon gg ez game.

If Kokichi is a RB, why can't Acryon be a wolf?
Well he can, but the logic of Pint was blocked because he shot Acryon is stupid. Wolves didn't know that Pint was going to shoot Acryon, and wolves could have been aiming aimlessly with the RB.
If you think Acryon is a wolf because of this logic, please stop playing mafia, ty.

Now if you think Acryon is a wolf based on their play, thats a different story for a different time.

　　　　　　　　　

Conclusion

Kokichi is a wolf who tried to setup a no kill gambit in attempt to milk towncred from it, however it backfired as soon as he saw that his plan wasn't going to work or change his current situation.
Kokichi is always the correct lynch today, please clap ty.

HEY JOEY
HEY JOEY
HEY JOEY
HEY JOOOOOOOEY

ARE YOU GOING TO READ THIS POST?
YOU SHOULD READ IT
ITS VERY EDUCATIONAL FOR SOMEONE THATS BEEN LYNCHING TOWN THE WHOLE GAME.

[Alisae]

mafia doctors cant kill

Alisae would know this since she's all about mechanics. If she really believed her logic, she would push acyron all day.

SO REMEMBER THAT THIS IS ALWAYS WOLFPOSTING BECAUSE FUCK
THEY EVEN PLAYED IN GAMES WHERE I HAVE USED A WOLFDOC MULTIPLE TIMES AND ALLOWED IT TO KILL
AND THEY ARE JUST TAKING EVERY FUCKING CHANCE THEY GET TO DISCREDIT ME

THIS IS A REMINDER THAT I AM INSTAVOTING THIS TOMORROW

[Alisae]

Lynch Kokichi tomorrow
Or I replace out.

Pick one.

[Alisae]

If you aren't lynching Kokichi then joey bob joe can have the fucking slot I want no part in this game if you don't want to lynch the most obvious fucking wolf or read my post because you think I am trash at mafia or don't care about my case or think I'm worthless or whatever

I want no part of it

So I will replace out

[Alisae]

LIKE HI
I AM A PERSON
MY READS HAVE VALUE
YOU LYNCHED TOWN TODAY
YOU SHOULD CARE ABOUT MY READS

[Alisae]

If you aren't lynching Kokichi then joey bob joe can have the fucking slot I want no part in this game if you don't want to lynch the most obvious fucking wolf or read my post because you think I am trash at mafia or don't care about my case or think I'm worthless or whatever

I want no part of it

So I will replace out

i read it, i dont think you are trash at all

that would mean something to me if you give me Joey tomorrow mkay?

[Alisae]

Then what makes sens then ?

Either you call me, alisae or mariar scum once this is flipping green

dude he is a fucking wolf with acryon or dunn game solved.

Probably Acryon since Kokichi has a reputation of hardbussing all of his buddies

[Alisae]

If you lynch the claimed doctor, that's on you.

again
You're a wolf claiming doc for cred
Now you won't get that cred
Bye scum

[Alisae]

I didnt want to die. At this point, Alisae made this game cancer so I dont care

You fakeclaimed FN
You refused to be cooperative
You claimed and said 20 different things.
This is YOUR fault not mine.

[Alisae]

Oh yeah and you also pretended like you had a fucking guilty during twilight when you never actually have a guilty.
AND YOU ALWAYS ASK THE SAME GOD DAM THING
"WHAT DO I DO I HAVE A GUILTY ITS TWILIGHT GUYZ HELP ME GUYZ HELP ME"
AND YOU GET TOLD
"FUCKING CLAIM IT"
BUT YOU NEVER DO

AND YOU KEEP ON DOING THE SAME THING
OVER AND OVER AGAIN

[Alisae]

Garry the answer is yes I don't really feel like entertaining stupid questions.

[Alisae]

i love you alisae but you have to give it to him, hes hilariously antagonistic

I mean he's a wolf thats his job.

[Alisae]

i think acry didnt claim

he claimed VT in his only post this day phase

[Alisae]

Hey guys. Just phone posting quick but I’m V/LA. I’ll be back Monday morning as usual.

Skimmed over things for now and looks like we are claiming. I’m VT.

[Alisae]

oh boy, i think this means that koki is the only thing that can explain the n3 going no kill FTR

Dude I literally already explained it.

[Alisae]

oh boy, i think this means that koki is the only thing that can explain the n3 going no kill FTR

Dude I literally already explained it.

i know but it still doesnt work, scum does not give ml to town

If they are on the chopping block yes they do.

[Alisae]

Kokichi needs to "Look town" so he doesn't die in MyLo/LyLo
Too bad it only fucked him over now

[Alisae]

OOOH OOH
GARR-
I MEAN KOKICHI WAS IN THAT GAME TOO!
HE WAS IN THAT GAME!
HE WAS IN THAT GAME!

[Alisae]

G A R R Y
W A S
I N
T H A T
G A M E

[Alisae]

If they are on the chopping block yes they do Joey!

[Alisae]

-
I MEAN KOKICHI WAS IN THAT GAME TOO

Which?

GARRY YOU KNOW THE GAME YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT YOU WERE IN THAT GAME!

[Alisae]

I mean that's what you did so...

[Alisae]

-
I MEAN KOKICHI WAS IN THAT GAME TOO

Which?

GARRY YOU KNOW THE GAME YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT YOU WERE IN THAT GAME!

I think you have me mistaken with someone else

No you were in that game garry you were!

[Alisae]

Okay should I stop responding to Kokichi now this is getting entertaining but at the same time I'm losing my shit.
But I can't tell if I'm losing my shit because of Joey or Kokichi

[Alisae]

Like Kokichi is just a wolf
Joey is giving my heart attacks by thinking Kokichi is town when he is literally the most obvious wolf ever.