Mini 2006: Scummer in this game UPick GAME OVER

[Lady Lambdadelta]

run the table ffs

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Actually, they won't kill me tonight.

Ascetic me, put a doctor on Mastina.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Or Nico.

Or Math.

Honestly, I really shouldn't be directing things like this.

It just lets whatever scum PR control.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If scum kill me tonight we win, so...

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: Nahdia

two things

1) Scum Joat would fit with the power level of this game, maybe not those exact roles but that could be slightly modified. Best lies are the ones that contain a tiny bit of truth into them.
2) I... just don't understand how in any world you wouldn't paint the masons for being bodyguard. If you really were a bodyguard, I just don't get it. It feels like you wanted to claim bodyguard but also kill mastina?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Mark, thoughts?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, Nico, thoughts?

I really want to hear from you a lot today, given you're 100% confirmed town.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like in my mind, the game is over when we lynch Nahdia.

I mean, tbh, this game has been over for quite a while for me.

Nico is confirmed town.

Mark has been confirmed town to me since the minute that role PM was sent to me, plus their play.

This should be an easy game, town bloc lynches the likely scum in Nahdia, if we're wrong and the weird Loud Flipless shit is scum, oh well, the game is easy enough.

The real concern I have, is that I know as a result of this position, scum will never be able to lynch Mark or Nico.

Which means for scum to win this game, either Nahdia or McMenno, they have to convince me to lynch the other one of those two today

and then lynch me tomorrow.

Which means lynching scum today is imperative, because I don't want to risk paranoia losing us this game.

So, you two need to bootstrap up. (You two refering to Mark and Nico). I need you both here talking to me about which you think is scum, and I'll tell you why I think it's Nahdia.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I've never really been one for cooperation as town.

It's a bit foreign to me.

Even now I just want to tell you two what the fuck to do and just be like "it's solved finish this"

but I know that opens the door to the one way we lose this game

so I have to like, swallow my pride a bit and try to make this work

and for that to happen I need you two to give a fuck about this game

so please, no more apathy, no more half paying attention.

I need you two.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I am confident the answer is just McMenno.

That said, I feel obligated to do my due diligence and re-read Mathblade and their slot.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The main time I have for interaction and chatting is tonight and a bit of tomorrow as my mom is coming in during the evening.

I plan on dropping a vote before then as I don’t want to decide lylo while medicinally high.

That won’t be fair to anyone.

Then let's do stuff now. I'm around, you're around. I'm pretty sure McMenno is scum but I have some questions for you.

If you have questions for me, I'm here to answer anything.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

First question I have is: Why did you choose to send me your role PM day 1 and let me know it was you who sent it?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

okay so i confirmed with kts that this is the best way;

we picked eddie cane. we are a LOUD FLIPLESS Eddie Cane. not gonna fullclaim our ability, but when we die we flip as EDDIE CANE not town nor scum.

Lynch this claim.

Why?

It ain't town. "I don't actually flip when I'm lynched" is like, not town.

I noticed during a lot of times I pushed for this spot to be lynched earlier, you never really agreed/disagreed during those times as much as memory served. Why?

Because I had already sidelined this slot in my head based on early interactions.

So early on day 1 I thought the claim was fake and scum, so I pushed him.

Then, I was talked to about it and my final realization was "if he really is Flipless, it's anti-town to lynch him right now. His role would be a town liability."

So I basically resolved "he has a burden of proof to show me he's town, and I don't want to lynch him until we 1) reach lylo 2) only one scum is alive"

And then a rolecop by Mastina 100% confirmed that they really WERE flipless.

And so by the time you wanted to lynch him, I had already perma removed him from my lynch pool until a later time, because it wouldn't make sense to play otherwise.

Then, I got a guilty on Lovebird, and wanted to lynch him.

And then yesterday, I wanted to talk about Nahdia vs. McMenno/Momo but all 3 of us were very convinced about Nahdia, so we didn't really talk about it much.

But the tl;dr answer to the question was "I was convinced to put that slot on the backburner by very good logic that if he was town and we lynched him he would be flipless and then we would be in a really bad spot where we wouldn't know if we were in lylo or not"

and I didn't want to end up there. It just didn't make sense to make that risk, even if he was playing scummy.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Especially since Lovebird and Nahdia were both REALLY scummy to me at the time too.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I also find it odd scum let the entire time run.

I sped it up as it is directly against my interest to have this game run long.

Why do you think scum!McMenno does that?

More time to plan?

I submitted an accel too.

It's also possible Nico didn't submit an accel because she wasn't paying attention and didn't care?

Like, I can't explain because I'm not McMenno and I'm not scum and I voted to accelerate. This question is seriously impossible.

Reverse question: What does this question inform you of? What kind of answers do you think you're going to get?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I am just really disappointed because it is proper play 100% to lynch the flipless before here and I really wish I would have listened to prior me regarding Nahdia.

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This is the last visible post from McMenno(please excuse the curse word) that is in a mafia forum. There are also like a few from mishmash. Considering when the kill is do you think McMenno is capable of stealth killing here?

Yes, I do.

Mostly because he kind of has to? I didn't submit the kill and unless you want me to say "hey you're scum Math" which I don't really believe, he had to have

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like, Math, these last two questions you've asked only have one reasonable answer for me to provide you.

And I'm happy to tell you the truth and answer any questions you need me to, but it concerns me because what I'm looking for here from you is some kind of like... genuine attempt to sort me one final time.

And the first question I was really happy with.

The next two have felt very... almost like superfluous? even forced? Why did you ask them? What kind of answers were you expecting?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I also find it odd scum let the entire time run.

I sped it up as it is directly against my interest to have this game run long.

Why do you think scum!McMenno does that?

More time to plan?

I submitted an accel too.

It's also possible Nico didn't submit an accel because she wasn't paying attention and didn't care?

Like, I can't explain because I'm not McMenno and I'm not scum and I voted to accelerate. This question is seriously impossible.

Reverse question: What does this question inform you of? What kind of answers do you think you're going to get?

It’s more I am trying to figure out why all the events together accumulated into the result they did for today.

If McMenno is scum then he submitted a kill on Nico then disappeared, knowing that I would very likely be voting him no matter what. Yet he isn’t here to make the argument and didn’t concede.

So I am trying to ask a lot of why questions until I feel like I understand why the night actions happened the way they did.

What is his other choice?

He can't shoot me, I'm his potential mislynch.

He can't shoot you, if you are shot dead, then Nico is confirmed town and I get to vote him for 1000000% free and then Nico makes a very obvious choice.

No, I think his play it to try and generate the paranoia between us because neither of us are 100% confirmed.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And I recognize I am playing into that paranoia a bit right now doing this whole "let's ask each other questions thing" but frankly it is helping me feel way more comfortable.

I'm an extremely anxious person, you know that. You've been in lylo with me before, in real life even (chi meet). You know I fret and worry so just talking this out and having you show me your mental state and progression is important to me making a decision.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like, Math, these last two questions you've asked only have one reasonable answer for me to provide you.

And I'm happy to tell you the truth and answer any questions you need me to, but it concerns me because what I'm looking for here from you is some kind of like... genuine attempt to sort me one final time.

And the first question I was really happy with.

The next two have felt very... almost like superfluous? even forced? Why did you ask them? What kind of answers were you expecting?

I am asking them in order to as I said before figure out why McMenno as scum would do these things.

I am also concerned that you have instantly townread me for the entire game and scum haven’t ever tried to dissuade me from that and that no one has any proof you didn’t bus your buddy. I have run a similar gambit as scum before and won with it multiple times.

Hence why I am more concerned you aren’t considering me as potential scum. You’re answer of I wouldn’t like where it goes is exactly antithesis to what I wanted to hear. I wanted to hear I considered my townread on you being wrong and then realized that is a dumb idea.

Why do you think I'm currently trying to fucking sort you, Mathblade?

The scum couldn't do anything about us because the last few days ahve been literally locked in. They have to kill Mathdino AND Mastina because

1) they're both poweroles
2) they're both confirmed town
3) they can both end the game for scum randomly

and then Nico being killed I explained above

Right now, I am concerned you have been playing ME. I'm worried you sent me that shit day 1 as a way to try and earn my trust and then just rode that claim to victory.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If McMenno is scum then it would be which confirmed town to shoot. And why did scum not try to neutralize your ability?

2 reasons

1) I never full claimed my ability prior to the day where I revealed my guilty on Lovebird. It's possible they thought I was a tracker or something.
2) My ability was unblockable, as I claimed to you earlier 2 days ago.

Third bonus reason: you've been putting the ascetic on me every night

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So their only way of dealing with me is to kill me.

But what happens if scum kills me?

They leave confirmed town alive in the following number

Mathdino
Mastina
Nico

and there are 7 players left alive.

which means they can't win. They literally cannot win from that position. They need 3 mislynches to win and there are only 2.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

VOTECOUNT 3.2

Lovebird [4]

- Lady LambdaDelta, mastina, McMenno, Lovebird

Not Voting [3]:

NicoRobin, OnTheMark, Nahdia

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.
You have (expired on 2018-06-23 18:00:00) to do so.

See this is what I am struggling with.

McMenno in one of his few posts hammers then lovebird immediately does.

Coordinated self hammer to deny town time to plan discuss and talk?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like think about this logically Mark.

They can;t ever kill me, they need to mislynch me.

They can't block my ability, it's unblockable as I claimed a while ago.

And they can''t do any other shenaigans to me at night because you are publically claiming to ascetic me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So their only way of dealing with me is to kill me.

But what happens if scum kills me?

They leave confirmed town alive in the following number

Mathdino
Mastina
Nico

and there are 7 players left alive.

which means they can't win. They literally cannot win from that position. They need 3 mislynches to win and there are only 2.

That is another thing too.

They kill the mason cop then don’t kill the masons.

It’s really odd.

It’s like scum had the masons in their pocket.

they killed the mason cop because lovebird was scum and in that fake mason gambit bullshit.

Then their kills are forced the rest of the game Math.

They have to kill Mathdino first because his inventions are too powerful, right?

Then they kill the mason who claims to get random powers now and again.

Then they kill the mason who didn't claim that.

Does that make sense do I need to run you through the numbers again

[Lady Lambdadelta]

HOLY FUCK HOW STUPID ARE YOU

[Lady Lambdadelta]

YOU'LL FUCKING TALK AND TALK AND TALK AND TALK FOR HOURS BUT NEVER FUCKING LSITEN TO A WORD I SAY

[Lady Lambdadelta]

It's Day 3.

Mathdino has been killed. His role was ...

Spoiler:

Hello CheekyTeeky!
Your pick was: Beeboy.

Role:

You are a

Town Odd-Day Inventor Designator

.
Every odd day you can target a player to give them a set of inventions from which they can distribute one during the oncoming night.
You cannot target the same player twice.
Any attempt to give you any invention will refund it back into its invention pool.

Inventions:

1-Shot Rolecop
1-Shot Track
1-Shot Track

Wincon:

You win when all threats to the town have been removed and at least one town aligned player is still alive.

Mathdino actually wasn’t confirmed town.

And even if you disagree with the idea and thought he was the order of the confirmed town deaths matter.

PINE
CONFIRMED
MATH
AS
TOWN.

WHEN PINE FLIPPED TOWN MATH WAS TOWN.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I JUST WANT TO VOTE YOU SO WE CAN BOTH LOSE SO I NEVER HAVE TO DEAL WITH YOUR FUCKING IDIOT LOGIC EVER AGAIN

[Lady Lambdadelta]

CAUSE GUESS WHAT BITCH I STILL CAN'T MOVE MY FUCKING VOTE

EVEN IN LYLO

SO IF I VOTE YOU OUR OF FUCKING RANGE AND YOU ARE TOWN WHICH I SERIOUSLY THINK YOU ARE BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY YOU FUCKING DO THIS TO ME AS SCUM

WE LOSE

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So their only way of dealing with me is to kill me.

But what happens if scum kills me?

They leave confirmed town alive in the following number

Mathdino
Mastina
Nico

and there are 7 players left alive.

which means they can't win. They literally cannot win from that position. They need 3 mislynches to win and there are only 2.

That is another thing too.

They kill the mason cop then don’t kill the masons.

It’s really odd.

It’s like scum had the masons in their pocket.

they killed the mason cop because lovebird was scum and in that fake mason gambit bullshit.

Then their kills are forced the rest of the game Math.

They have to kill Mathdino first because his inventions are too powerful, right?

Then they kill the mason who claims to get random powers now and again.

Then they kill the mason who didn't claim that.

Does that make sense do I need to run you through the numbers again

His inventions aren’t too powerful if scum are townread. Plus they have me who has to ascetize someone.

THEY CAN NEVER KILL ME.

I AM A REQUIRED MISLYNCH.

AND SO IF YOU ASCETECIZE ME EVERY NIGHT.

GUESS WHAT

DOCTORS ARE POWERFUL

[Lady Lambdadelta]

CAUSE GUESS WHAT BITCH I STILL CAN'T MOVE MY FUCKING VOTE

EVEN IN LYLO

SO IF I VOTE YOU OUR OF FUCKING RANGE AND YOU ARE TOWN WHICH I SERIOUSLY THINK YOU ARE BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY YOU FUCKING DO THIS TO ME AS SCUM

WE LOSE

Can you like not call me a bitch?

Horrible player
Can’t play for shit
Ridiculous

All those are fine but not bitch please.

I am just trying to figure out stuff like we agreed we were doing and now you’re yelling at me because I am trying to sort? This doesn’t make sense.

You are not trying to sort.

if you were trying to sort you'd fucking lsiten to anythign I have to say.

but you're not listenign you're just talking in your fuckign arrogant condescending way

[Lady Lambdadelta]

you haven't considered a word I have said.

you are talking past me, not at me

[Lady Lambdadelta]

and if you do it again I will game throw and I don't even fucking care because I'm on the fucking verge of tears I am so tired of the fucking idiot moon logic and having people just fucking ignore me

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'd be decently down with flipping Not_Mafia in order to BoP LLD

Anyone else?

Pedit I am asking questions. Certain things don’t add up.
When McMenno gets on I also have questions for him that don’t add up.

I am listening to what you have to say I just am not taking it with a grain of salt.

Assume the premise that Math is confirmed town (I disagree but let’s roll with it)
Why do you think scum killed Math over the masons?

Keep in mind Math suspected you over McMenno slot.

you haven't listened to a word I've said.

So here, I'll explain one more fucking time for you.

Are you ready? Here we go.

Mathdino has a protective INVENTOR.

And it's due to go off the next day.

so if scum don't kill him...

the town gets a protective role.

for free.

At the time, Nico was checked out of the game, Mastina was checked out of the game and Mathdino was a town leader.

All 3 were confirmed town.

As a result of this, if scum kill... me for example.

The town looks like

Mathdino
Mastina
Nico
Mark
Nahdia
Lovebird
McMenno

Which means to win...

The scum need to:

1) beat my claim that you are confirmed town to me. When I flip town, you are not getting lynched.
2) avoid Mathdino lynching them on the spot.
3) avoid a protective role stopping a kill. Because if one does the game ends.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If MathDino was confirmed town and the masons confirmed town why did the order be
Math
Mastina
Nico

And not
Math
Nico
Mastina

....

have you been paying any attention this game?

Mastina's role pm is "every night I get a random 1 shot role from the mod."

and Nico hadn't claimed anything. Nico had just claimed "mason".

So why would scum ever kill nico over Mastina? It's the power role fear. What if she gets a redirector or tracker or watcher

[Lady Lambdadelta]

"To make Mastina a VT"

Nico never claimed to be an enabler for Mastina's power. Show me where Nico claimed that.

How would scum know that?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, we don't even know that Nico enables Mastina because the name is Redacted in the role pm.

... are you telling me you knew this? IS this some kind of slip?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Huh.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't think it changes anything though, right?

You kill the role, not the enabler if you get the chance, right?

And Nico was inactive the whole game

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh he did. I mixed them up.

But isn't a tracker way more dangerous anyway?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't think it changes anything though, right?

You kill the role, not the enabler if you get the chance, right?

And Nico was inactive the whole game

It does.

If both in essence make the slot a VT.

Then as scum I would go for the enabler because the enabler could have something else that would be bad for town.

If Math Nico and Mastina are all confirmed town the why matters because it gives clues to who scum is.

Ok, let's play that game for a second then.

The order of those 3 descends with

Activity
Power level of role
and
Amount of Leadership

Doesn't it make sense then that they were simply killed on auto pilot based on the massclaim?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

like, I actually had it better off than it was

I thought Math was the protector giver

but it turns out he's the investigative giver.

That's INFINITELY more dangerous.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

It's Day 3.

Mathdino has been killed. His role was ...

Spoiler:

Hello CheekyTeeky!
Your pick was: Beeboy.

Role:

You are a

Town Odd-Day Inventor Designator

.
Every odd day you can target a player to give them a set of inventions from which they can distribute one during the oncoming night.
You cannot target the same player twice.
Any attempt to give you any invention will refund it back into its invention pool.

Inventions:

1-Shot Rolecop
1-Shot Track
1-Shot Track

Wincon:

You win when all threats to the town have been removed and at least one town aligned player is still alive.

Pedit The tracker is only more dangerous if you’re scumread. There were already a lot of confirmed town.

What is really interesting is that no one claimed to receive the track if memory serves.

Wasn't Math killed night 2?

he's an odd day giver. He gave Mastina the rolecop that confirmed McMenno is flipless

[Lady Lambdadelta]

It was a day inventor, Mark. Day action.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

" Town Odd-Day Inventor Designator."

So if he lives to wake up day 3 he gives someone a track to use, right?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I gotta go.

Will try to be on tomorrow.

oh ffs

no, I'm not doing this

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Just fucking vote me if you have to leave I don't care.

I'm not waiting 24 hours after this fucking conversation.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm town but honestly you've frustrated me so thouroughly that I jsut want this game to end.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

so fucking vote me and McMenno will come hammer me or whatever IDGAF anymore I'm not fucking stewing on this anxiety for another fucking 24 hours, getting IBS from it and then fucking havbing to deal with you condescending to me again tomorrow while I try to fucking answer your inane questions

[Lady Lambdadelta]

... god fucking damn it

I just want to fucking cry

[Lady Lambdadelta]

like you talk past me for what is basically a fucking hour

and then

when you finally sstart to see

Mathdino uses his ability day 3 and was killed night 2....

I WONDER WHY

you walk away

I want to cryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Lady Lambdadelta]

/me sighs

alright I'm gonna try and go calm down and maybe when I look at this game again it won't fucking suck

[Lady Lambdadelta]

ok, game still sucks but let's fucking write this out so Mark understands.

When N_M and Pine died, there were 8 people and 2 scum remaining.

3 of those people were confirmed town. Pine's flip and claimed connection (no it's not a "oh hey we both claimed the same thing" thing, they literally knew each others roles and were connected) confirmed Math as town.

Mastina and Nico were confirmed town.

Leaving the following people

LLD
Mark
Lovebird
Nahdia
Momo

Let's assume Mark is town for the sake of this conversation. So the scum are Lovebird and Momo.

If they kill Nahdia, they lose because of lack of mislynches.
If they kill Mark, they lose because of lack of mislynches.
If they kill me, they lose because of lack of mislynches.

Why?

Because if Mastina and Math are allowed to live to day 3, they get a free tracker, the get whatever Mastina's new power will be and they have to deal with a 3 man confirmed town block. One might argue "but it's technically possible to lynch both the remaining townies in a row to win.

Counter argument: it is easier to do that if there are more mislynchable targets in the town.

"But what about LLD's cop?"

Scum didn't know I was cop that night. I never hard claimed cop until day 3.

Additionally, if they do kill me and I flip town,

OnTheMark is unlynchable

, effectively.

There is just no situation in which the scum can kill outside the 3.

So, let's focus on the order of the 3 being killed.

The timing on why Mathdino was killed is obvious. Pine's role flipped as Even Day inventor, stands to reason Math's is Odd day.

Day 3 is an odd day, so Math dies that night. Prevents a power from being given, and eliminates the single more active and focused town leader.

Next, Mastina. I didn't actually notice the enabler was claimed, and I think it stands to reason that perhaps, after a Lovebird lynch that

McMenno didn't read that either

.

But even if we consider Mark, who knew about the enabler, it's still likely Mark would kill Mastina over Nico in this situation too.

Since there are no protective roles left that were claimed (Nahdia hadn't claimed at that point, so the bodyguard fear probably didn't cross scum's mind), it makes no difference in the role whether the power role or the enabler dies first.

So the kill will be based on play.

We could easily base it on reads, but there's just a simpler solution.

Mastina was the head of the duo and Nico was very much following what she said. Nico hadn't really played this game at all, wasn't posting, was only really following Mastina's reads. I suspect, perhaps, they talked a lot more in their Mason QT but to the public, Mastina was the new active conf. town leader.

So Mastina dies first, in every world. We can have the discussion about Mastina's reads if you want, Mark, but the truth is that I don't think he reads were that stable. I know for a fact that Mastina spent most of this game calling me town but also hedging on me saying "but I don't know how to read LLD, so grain of salt". I think she was similarly wishy washy on you and on Momo. I'll need to check that again, but the point is I don't think it matters. She is enough of a wildcard and her reads were the ones that Nico followed, so I suspect that scum killed her simply because she made the most sense.

So now we are down to 4 people:

Nico
LLD
Mark
McMenno

If Nico isn't killed, then scum goes into today with a confirmed townie, and I think that just strictly lowers their odds.

Does that make sense, Mark

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Honestly don't think I can ever see myself to lynching Mark here.

Not only does the role claim still feel town and the reasons given for the role claim when I asked fit with what I felt and know about the game.

Not only does Mark being town fit my Wisdom townread that I had for basically all of day 1 until the replacement.

NOT ONLY does Mark being scum violate a ton of connective tells that make no sense. (Wisdom+Kokichi? No. Mark+Lovebird as a team? No.)

But also I literally just fucking lost a game just like this one, where everyone was apathetic as fuck and chose never to lynch the fucking lurker because it was too easy.

And now McMenno is lurking.

and I want to tear out your throat.

and I'm not making the same fucking mistake again.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

...

I wanna vote so fucking bad but I don't wanna vote and accidentally get buyers remorse and decide "Wait no fuck I want to change it" and then be unable to change it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm gonna just go and try to not think about this game and wait for McMenno to talk so I can hear what he has to say about all of this.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

maybe if I calm down enough I won't hate this game so much and I won't rush it.

There's literally no good reason to rush it beyond

get me the fuck out of this game please god I want off mr. bones wild ride

[Lady Lambdadelta]

so what I'm gonna do is go play video games and stop spamming this thread and maybe then I won't hate myself, this game, mafia in general and also my decision not to abandon this fucking hellhole.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Honestly don't think I can ever see myself to lynching Mark here.

Not only does the role claim still feel town and the reasons given for the role claim when I asked fit with what I felt and know about the game.

Not only does Mark being town fit my Wisdom townread that I had for basically all of day 1 until the replacement.

NOT ONLY does Mark being scum violate a ton of connective tells that make no sense. (Wisdom+Kokichi? No. Mark+Lovebird as a team? No.)

But also I literally just fucking lost a game just like this one, where everyone was apathetic as fuck and chose never to lynch the fucking lurker because it was too easy.

And now McMenno is lurking.

and I want to tear out your throat.

and I'm not making the same fucking mistake again.

I think it's pretty unreasonable to call me out for lurking when the day has only been going on for ~3 hours and it was night in my timezone

I guess? It was mostly a carry over from the stuff you provided yesterday

[Lady Lambdadelta]

but that's fair enough. Talk to me about... well, anything to be honest. You're a late game replacement, so I just want to see you give me some concept of where your reads are. The stuff about who you expect to vote in lylo and how is good, but can you talk to me about some other stuff?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

what do you want me to talk about

I mean at this point, I'm just looking for....

look, you mentioned you think I'm town, that's good, I

am

town.

But that's only half the equation for you if you are town. In order for town to win if you are town, you need to convince me you're town.

You can do that one of two ways.

One: Talk to me about the earlier things in the game, and try to sort and read OTM and I. The way you go about it will tell me a lot about your mental state, and help me figure things out.

Two: Talk to me about your slot. I know you said it is hard to town case yourself because you weren't the one playing, but basically talking from the perspective of your role and your current thoughts....

essentially, show me why you're town and why OTM is scum, effectively.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I explained in my first post of the day why I didn't accelerate the night phase

what do you want me to talk about

I mean at this point, I'm just looking for....

look, you mentioned you think I'm town, that's good, I

am

town.

But that's only half the equation for you if you are town. In order for town to win if you are town, you need to convince me you're town.

You can do that one of two ways.

One: Talk to me about the earlier things in the game, and try to sort and read OTM and I. The way you go about it will tell me a lot about your mental state, and help me figure things out.

Two: Talk to me about your slot. I know you said it is hard to town case yourself because you weren't the one playing, but basically talking from the perspective of your role and your current thoughts....

essentially, show me why you're town and why OTM is scum, effectively.

I usually form reads as the game progresses, and day 1 is a horrid cesspool basically but I'll give it s hot

trust me, the day 1 of this game was also a shitshow, but for me it's important to see you post and put something out.

Because you have to understand how suspicious it is for me if yuo do and accomplish nothing, even under the guise of "I replaced in and I don't know what to do".

It's so hard for me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

/done talking to Nico

Does anyone know why Momrangal also votes me for voting mastina

Of course you are, you've gotta continue your ego trip, after all.

Wis has actually been fairly reasonable!
It’s actually kind of disturbing

this observation struck a chord with me

my slot claimed loud flipless which I can confirm. I guess the loud part was supposed to work with the inventors

What do you do that is loud? And who did you target each day/night? If I recall the masons confirmed you as flipless but I am curious to what you did each night after and what exactly is loud?

I do not have a night action. I think the loud part of my role was supposed to work with the inventors. if someone is targetted by me they get notified that they got targetted by EDDIE CANE

I've played with Wisdom a few times, but I can't say I have the strongest kind of meta on him. What exactly is resonating with you there? Do you expect Wisdom not to try and work with townies when he is town?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What is your read on Wisdom's replace out?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I am here to confirm I will not be voting when you do so.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Not voting.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Thank god I trusted my brain.

I have about 10 minutes before I have to disappear for a long while til Late Monday or Early Tuesday.

Any questions?

I don't think so.

I'm pretty confident it's McMenno.

I'm just gonna hammer.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote:McMenno

[Lady Lambdadelta]

[Lady Lambdadelta]

[Lady Lambdadelta]

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't think I lose this even if I have to 1v1 Mark though. McMenno was leaning my way.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I just decided that my win path involved a very specific path?

Have to lynch N_M to trigger the un-nightkilable lovers.
Have to kill Mathdino.
Have to bus Lovebird to confirm my ability soft and hard claim.
Have to kill Mastina and her stupid random powers.
Have to lynch Nahdia and McMenno in some order.
Have to take Mark to lylo.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So yeah, I am mad......

And about your issue with me, Titus called you 'she' in this post, so I assumed that was your pronoun, and I apologize for that.

p-edit: That plan didn't involve killing me. :/

The fact is, since I have to take Mark to lylo and have to lynch Nahdia and McMenno in some order, you were confirmed town... you have to die eventually, after Mastina.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yeah that was obvious especially by the AtE at the end

Mathblade being alive at the end should've been a massive red flag that he was meant to choose wrong

GJ scum

Never trusting beeboy again, fuck that d1

I mean, that AtE wasn't designed for you to be tricked by it.

Nothing here was designed for you to be tricked by it. It was designed for you to be dead in a hole 6 feet under.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

can I have deadthread Chamber

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Everyone should blame me for this because I MASSIVELY, MASSIVELY, TREMENDOUSLY FUCKED UP.
Like biggest fuckup in my 9.5-year mafia career, fuckup.

I jailkept Nahdia after the Lovebird lynch and forgot to tell Nico.

I don't know if this 100% loses me the game but it would have hurt a lot. Made everything super duper hard.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What was your ability LLD?

Wisdom, Sticky Voting One Shot Strongman

if I submit the kill at night, I can choose to strongman kill the person I was voting.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You are a Mafia Modified 1-Shot Strongman Sticky-Voter.
During the day phase you may only change your vote once every 48 hours.
Once during the game, you may upgrade your nightkill to a strongman if you kill the person you were voting at the end of the day.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

ty everyone

it is very appreciated