Mini 2059: Secrets of the Anuket Topaz [Over]

[Nimueh]

Hi everyone. Just based on skimming the thread, NMSA’s posts are pinging me the most. Not voting yet, because I’m concerned about the speed of that wagon.

Also, can someone please explain the votes on Brigitte, Skitter? Thanks.

[Nimueh]

Hi everyone. Just based on skimming the thread, NMSA’s posts are pinging me the most. Not voting yet, because I’m concerned about the speed of that wagon.

This is just WIFOM.

Also, can someone please explain the votes on Brigitte, Skitter? Thanks.

Everyone else is waiting on explanations on those as well.

You don’t think it’s relevant? I always get nervous when wagons form really fast without a hard guilty, don’t you? Like he could still be scum, I just prefer not to rush my vote.

Because both read pretty townie to me.

[Nimueh]

Not JUST WIFOM, I mean, but it wouldn't surprise me if we've got some hard bussers that don't trust a buddy in this one.

Fair, I’ve definitely seen that happen.

[Nimueh]

Hi everyone. Just based on skimming the thread, NMSA’s posts are pinging me the most. Not voting yet, because I’m concerned about the speed of that wagon.

This is just WIFOM.

Also, can someone please explain the votes on Brigitte, Skitter? Thanks.

Everyone else is waiting on explanations on those as well.

You don’t think it’s relevant? I always get nervous when wagons form really fast without a hard guilty, don’t you? Like he could still be scum, I just prefer not to rush my vote.

Because both read pretty townie to me.

Anyone else you wanna vote?

No, because NMSA is currently the slot that’s pinging me the most, so if there aren’t any slots I find scummier, that’s probably where my vote’s going to go. Which is why I’m not voting yet.

[Nimueh]

Hi, I’m sorry, I haven’t been feeling well and haven’t caught up with what I’ve missed. I’m sorry for my lack of participation. I hope I’ll feel better soon and make up for it.

From a brief skim, it seems that most people have flipped their read on NMSA. Can someone tell me why and anything else I should know? Thanks.

[Nimueh]

Hi, I’m sorry, I haven’t been feeling well and haven’t caught up with what I’ve missed. I’m sorry for my lack of participation. I hope I’ll feel better soon and make up for it.

From a brief skim, it seems that most people have flipped their read on NMSA. Can someone tell me why and anything else I should know? Thanks.

The bit that changed my mind was this.

yay skitter is probably town because of this interaction

I agree. How is watch duty right now?

i can't see the sun anymore but I think that might be because I've lost my retinas

Ohhh no. Go see the medical unit quick!

These two have been spamming all game. I'm calling my shot now, this is the scumteam. Come join me on the urap wagon, game is already solved.

Also correct me if I'm wrong because I have no experience in setup spec, but this game probably has more than two scum in it, right? with 13 people? This was a legit dumb!tell I think. He's only played newbie games up until now and they have 2 person teams.

Could be. In general, I tend to regard dumbtells as NIA but I agree, scum would be far more likely to do the opposite of what he did. So, I NIA him for the derp but townlean him for the lack of scum motivation in that statement.

[Nimueh]

UNVOTE:

Since my slot is voting Brigitte for God knows what reason

VOTE: TicTac

So I can be on the incredibly fortuitous tictac wagon being driven by literally all my townreads

Hooray I'm becoming more aware of the game state

Can you or someone tell me why Tictac is scum? I haven’t read any of the reasons yet.

[Nimueh]

Afaik it's because "lurker SHRUG"

Do you think his ISO seems particularly scummy? I don’t didn’t find anything particularly pinging about it.

[Nimueh]

VOTE: Nimueh

Anything to say about someone other than NMSA (Or I guess tictac)?

I’ve V/LA because I haven’t been feeling well, so no I’m not caught up yet but if this is your sole reason for for voting me, it isn’t a town one.

VOTE: Tris

[Nimueh]

Afaik it's because "lurker SHRUG"

Do you think his ISO seems particularly scummy? I don’t didn’t find anything particularly pinging about it.

he's being pushed because he's an easy push

I haven't seen any evidence of otherwise, and even then my personal 'scumread' of him is a bit of a stretch that's dependent on my Brigitte scumread

sooooooooooooooo

I think you’re probably town. I agree, tictac seems like mislynchbait.

[Nimueh]

Afaik it's because "lurker SHRUG"

Do you think his ISO seems particularly scummy? I don’t didn’t find anything particularly pinging about it.

he's being pushed because he's an easy push

I haven't seen any evidence of otherwise, and even then my personal 'scumread' of him is a bit of a stretch that's dependent on my Brigitte scumread

sooooooooooooooo

I think you’re probably town. I agree, tictac seems like mislynchbait.

Why do you think Ank is town?

Scum prey on easy lynchbaity players, so it’s townie to question that. I also agree with her as I don’t see why he’s scum. I think scum is probably on his wagon though.

[Nimueh]

It was hard to notice given that the sun was still directly overhead, but many of the lights weren't working as well.

Votecount 1.4

NotMySpamAccount (5):

u r a person 2 5, tris 62, tictac 67, Brigitte 144, Enter 207

skitter30 (2):

Chara 69, Bronson 259

Brigitte (1):

NotMySpamAccount 198

Enter (1):

xRECKONERx 82

Not voting (4):

Nimueh, Ankamius, skitter30 190, Flubbernugget 258

With 13 alive, it’s 7 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-08 00:58:59).

Who is currently voting tictac that was on NMSA wagon? Unfortunately, there’s no VC for that.

[Nimueh]

Votecount 1.1

tictac(3)

~ u r a person 2(180), xRECKONERx(75), Enter(145)

Brigitte(2)

~ Elbirn(7), Chara(72)

Ankamius(2)

~ skitter30(116), Brigitte(94)

u r a person 2(1)

~ Flubbernugget(46)

NotMySpamAccount(1)

~ tictac(13)

Flubbernugget(1)

~ Ankamius(150)

Enter(1)

~ NotMySpamAccount(26)


Not Voting (2): Nimueh(4), tris(73)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-08 00:58:59)

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I think it's a good sign the thread is so active but we've got too many different wagons going for me to viable keep track of all of what's going on, so let's do this:

Everyone please post a reads list and a quick case for whoever your vote is on right now.

I'll be back tomorrow to catch up and do the same.

Are these all of the tictac votes?

[Nimueh]

urap2 and enter

Can you tell me why Flubber is scum?

UNVOTE:

[Nimueh]

VOTE: Nimueh

Anything to say about someone other than NMSA (Or I guess tictac)?

I’ve V/LA because I haven’t been feeling well, so no I’m not caught up yet but if this is your sole reason for for voting me, it isn’t a town one.

VOTE: Tris

I disagree pretty strongly, actually.

If she had stayed on me for that reason, I’d be right.

[Nimueh]

it's another fake hammer

ill tell you hwhat

here's a real one

VOTE: NSMA

It logged Reckoner's vote as tris. My bad. Sorry. I fixed it

Also just wanted to clarify that I'm not the mod I dont' think I'm the mod I'm not trying to be the mod, I'm literally copy pasting out of the scrubber

Votecount 1.1

NotMySpamAccount(6)

~ tictac(13), Flubbernugget(28), u r a person 2(145), Enter(133), tris(65), xRECKONERx(68)

Ankamius(2)

~ skitter30(91), Brigitte(82)

skitter30(1)

~ Chara(35)

Nimueh(1)

~ Ankamius(98)

Enter(1)

~ NotMySpamAccount(25)

Brigitte(1)

~ Lady Angel(3)


Not Voting (1): Nimueh(4)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-08 00:58:59)

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Can someone tell me why Rec is town?

[Nimueh]

I can think of two reasons right now why Nimueh s reaction to tris is bad, and one of them I know she knows the answer to.

VOTE: nimueh

Yeah because I actually am not feeling well and your vote is bad.

[Nimueh]

I can think of two reasons right now why Nimueh s reaction to tris is bad, and one of them I know she knows the answer to.

VOTE: nimueh

Yeah because I actually am not feeling well and your vote is bad.

Bad as in wrong, not scummy.

[Nimueh]

it's another fake hammer

ill tell you hwhat

here's a real one

VOTE: NSMA

It logged Reckoner's vote as tris. My bad. Sorry. I fixed it

Also just wanted to clarify that I'm not the mod I dont' think I'm the mod I'm not trying to be the mod, I'm literally copy pasting out of the scrubber

Votecount 1.1

NotMySpamAccount(6)

~ tictac(13), Flubbernugget(28), u r a person 2(145), Enter(133), tris(65), xRECKONERx(68)

Ankamius(2)

~ skitter30(91), Brigitte(82)

skitter30(1)

~ Chara(35)

Nimueh(1)

~ Ankamius(98)

Enter(1)

~ NotMySpamAccount(25)

Brigitte(1)

~ Lady Angel(3)


Not Voting (1): Nimueh(4)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

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Can someone tell me why Rec is town?

@Enter, any particular reason, you ignored this post?

[Nimueh]

Do you plan to catch up or just start getting into the game?

I’m not sure I understand what you’re asking? I haven’t been/am still not feeling well, so no I’m not fully caught up yet and no one answering my question and Enter putting a lolvote on me, isn’t helping any.

[Nimueh]

I can think of two reasons right now why Nimueh s reaction to tris is bad, and one of them I know she knows the answer to.

VOTE: nimueh

Yeah because I actually am not feeling well and your vote is bad.

Bad as in wrong, not scummy.

...

What.

What do you mean, “what”?

Wrong as in you’re actually WRONG but I didn’t find your reasoning scummy.

[Nimueh]

@Enter, any particular reason, you ignored this post?

I didn't, you posted that after anything I've posted today.

So, you’re here now. Do you tr Rec? He put NMSA at L-1.

[Nimueh]

Why are you asking about reck specifically?

Because he’s pinging me. I am not fully caught up but I read his ISO after he put NMSA at L-1.

[Nimueh]

1. People are answering your questions
2. You haven't answered mine
3. That is, in no way, a lolvote

All you said was “what”, so I explained that. What part of your vote on me is wrong, warrants further explanation?

[Nimueh]

What do you mean, “what”?

Wrong as in you’re actually WRONG but I didn’t find your reasoning scummy

I get what you're saying. I'm saying you're being dumb.

I highly recommend you do your very best to answer my question now.

How is it not obvious to you? Are you deliberately being dense here?

[Nimueh]

What pinged you?

Other than the L-1, at this point just a gut read. That’s why I’m asking and not voting.

[Nimueh]

Why are you asking about reck specifically?

Because he’s pinging me. I am not fully caught up but I read his ISO after he put NMSA at L-1.

go on, use your big adult words to tell the class what is pinging you

Not really helping.

[Nimueh]

If you're doing ISOs i would ask you to ISO me and urap 2 next

I did. I want to know why Ankimius is voting you.

Rn, I think she and Enter despite his wrong vote are town.

[Nimueh]

How is it not obvious to you? Are you deliberately being dense here?

"I don't like other people voting me, so they shouldn't vote me. I don't want to call people scummy - if their reasoning for voting me doesn’t ping me as scummy, because I'm town and I don't gaf about the extra attention, and in addition, I don't want to answer people's questions about my justifiableable behavior so I'm going to call people WRONG instead."

Tell me why Tris vote on you was good before I answer for you.

FIFY

It obviously wasn’t, which is why I voted her.

But she didn’t keep it on me for those reasons I didn’t tr, so I unvoted her.

[Nimueh]

I want to know why Ankimius is voting you.

You and everyone else lmao

I haven’t voted you and I’m not currently voting anyone.

[Nimueh]

Alright, time's up.


You called tictac lynchbait but you think someone putting their vote on someone who hadn't really posted much at all is bad?
And you're only concerned with people getting their votes off of you, not concerned with why people put their votes there in the first place.

Get back to me, when you’ve actually read my posts. Thanks.

[Nimueh]

I'm sorry if I find it hard to believe that coming in the game thread after like five days of not posting (and before that posting almost nothing at all) and telling people to take their vote off you because you don't feel well is justifiable in any sense of the word.

Are you going to keep misrepping me, because it’s starting to get annoying.

At least have the decency to direct quote me because you’re clearly not reading what I said.

[Nimueh]

VOTE: Nimueh

Anything to say about someone other than NMSA (Or I guess tictac)?

I’ve V/LA because I haven’t been feeling well, so no I’m not caught up yet but

if this is your sole reason for for voting me

,it isn’t a town one.

VOTE: Tris

@Enter, READ!

[Nimueh]

Why are you asking about reck specifically?

Because he’s pinging me. I am not fully caught up but I read his ISO after he put NMSA at L-1.

go on, use your big adult words to tell the class what is pinging you

Not really helping.

cool, so like, just to check, you have no intentions of explaining reads?

I said, other then the L-1 thing it’s a weak gut read, which was why I was asking. It has zilch to do with intention.

[Nimueh]

Alright, time's up.


You called tictac lynchbait but you think someone putting their vote on someone who hadn't really posted much at all is bad?
And you're only concerned with people getting their votes off of you, not concerned with why people put their votes there in the first place.

Get back to me, when you’ve actually read my posts. Thanks.

Would you mind specifying what I haven't read instead of saying that I didn't? Oh, you can't, because I have read and you have no excuse for the crap you've been posting.

Alright, time's up.


You called tictac lynchbait but you think someone putting their vote on someone who hadn't really posted much at all is bad?
And you're only concerned with people getting their votes off of you, not concerned with why people put their votes there in the first place.

You're harping on someone that just got into the game before they can get a full grasp of it, and it's a bad look.

What about you, do you think urap is scumhunting too?

Why do you object to my Nimueh push but you didn't object to the tictac votes? Nimueh is in the game thread posting scummy things and tictac isn't here at all and hasn't been for several days. How do you justify not being here most of the week with exemption from presure?

I'm sorry if I find it hard to believe that coming in the game thread after like five days of not posting (and before that posting almost nothing at all) and telling people to take their vote off you because you don't feel well is justifiable in any sense of the word.

Are you going to keep misrepping me, because it’s starting to get annoying.

At least have the decency to direct quote me because you’re clearly not reading what I said.

Quote me where I misrep you.

VOTE: Nimueh

Anything to say about someone other than NMSA (Or I guess tictac)?

I’ve V/LA because I haven’t been feeling well, so no I’m not caught up yet but

if this is your sole reason for for voting me

,it isn’t a town one.

VOTE: Tris

@Enter, READ!

I didn't know it was possible to take yourself out of context until just now.

If you’re going to keep ignoring what I’m saying, I won’t waste my time responding to you.

[Nimueh]

If you’re going to keep ignoring what I’m saying, I won’t waste my time responding to you.

I'm responding directly to what you're saying and using quotes to back it up. The irony here is that you're misrepping my case on you and then arguing against that instead of actually arguing my case on you, all while accusing me of misrepping you.

You said that I’m sr votes on me for being unwell and when I prove that is bs, you persist on disregarding it.

[Nimueh]

Instead of saying things as they are (when they're not) please quote yourself (and not out of context) because this is getting ridiculous. Maybe when you go back and look at what's happening you'll recognize that feeling bad is not a viable reason to be exempt from scummy play and that you're saying a bunch of words that aren't true and that you'd have an awful hard time backing up with posts.

I give up. Just ignore me because you’re not listening to anything I’m saying and I’m not feeling well enough to keep banging my head against a brick wall.

[Nimueh]

If you’re going to keep ignoring what I’m saying, I won’t waste my time responding to you.

I'm responding directly to what you're saying and using quotes to back it up. The irony here is that you're misrepping my case on you and then arguing against that instead of actually arguing my case on you, all while accusing me of misrepping you.

You said that I’m sr votes on me for being unwell and when I prove that is bs, you persist on disregarding it.

No, I'm not. I'm saying you seem to think the votes on you are BAD (not sr). Please READ.

Because I know my alignment.

[Nimueh]

You called tictac lynchbait but you think someone putting their vote on someone who hadn't really posted much at all is

bad

?
And you're only concerned with people getting their votes off of you, not concerned with why people put their votes there in the first place.

Here, I've made it easier for you to read. Do you want me to make it bigger, too?

No, I actually want you to fucking read what I fucking wrote.

And if you’re going to act like a jerk to me, I won’t respond to anymore of your posts.

[Nimueh]

I give up. Just ignore me because you’re not listening to anything I’m saying and I’m not feeling well enough to keep banging my head against a brick wall.

Please do my my sanity's sake as well

For my

What?

[Nimueh]

I give up. Just ignore me because you’re not listening to anything I’m saying and I’m not feeling well enough to keep banging my head against a brick wall.

Please do my my sanity's sake as well

For my

What?

Oh nm. Sorry.

[Nimueh]

Sorry, missed this in the cloud of confusion that is the stubbornness of Nimueh.

Pot meet kettle.

[Nimueh]

Nimueh is refusing to answer questions, is claiming that Enter is misrepping, and is in fact doing the same thing. Back up your claims with evidence instead of strawmanning. Nimueh is scum.

VOTE: Nimueh

No but you’re probably something I won’t say.

I already did. Do I keep having to spam the thread with the post where I already answered his question, despite him insisting otherwise?

[Nimueh]

Sorry, missed this in the cloud of confusion that is the stubbornness of Nimueh.

Pot meet kettle.

You ignoring my posts and strawmanning my arguments is very different from me trying to figure out why you're repeatedly claiming scum.

Just because you learned big words to spout doesn't make any of them true.

PEdit: look who isn't reading

So, you’re content to mislynch me and ignore my refutation of your debunked argument? Cool.

[Nimueh]

VOTE: Nimueh

Anything to say about someone other than NMSA (Or I guess tictac)?

I’ve V/LA because I haven’t been feeling well, so no I’m not caught up yet but

if this is your sole reason for for voting me

,it isn’t a town one.

VOTE: Tris

@Enter, READ!

Any other blind people in this game, besides you and NMSA?

[Nimueh]

I’ve been really nauseous and I’m trying to get caught up but I can’t read 47 pages rn. Can anyone actually interested in funding scum/not blindly deathtunnelling me, help me get more into the game, please?

I think it would suck to get mislynched just because my being unwell prevented me from having a confident grasp of the current gamestate.

[Nimueh]

You debunked nothing. Ignoring my posts and arguments will get you nowhere. Spamming the thread with your falsified claims of refutation does nothing to hide your idiocy. Calling me names because you're incapable of reading and understanding (or because you choose not to) only worsens your condition.

You’ll probably blame me for my flip too, I’ll bet and you and NMSA are the ones currently practicing idiocy.

[Nimueh]

I’ve been really nauseous and I’m trying to get caught up but I can’t read 47 pages rn. Can anyone actually interested in funding scum/not blindly deathtunnelling me, help me get more into the game, please?

I think it would suck to get mislynched just because my being unwell prevented me from having a confident grasp of the current gamestate.

No one is blindly deathtunneling you. Stop making excuses for your crappy play. You're responsible for at least two of those pages, and it would have been only two posts instead of two pages if you were playing competently in any sense of the word.

You can keep on insulting me and ignoring what I’ve said, that doesn’t make me scum because you have your head up your ass, you know.

[Nimueh]

P.edit. What part of I’m feeling nauseous did you also not read? Yes, fair, when I don’t feel like constantly throwing up, I do play better. Good job.

[Nimueh]

I really want to hear other people’s reads and cases because Enter is hurting town by completely refusing to help me get into the game and clearly has no interest in correctly sorting me.

@Enter, What are you going to do when I flip town? Continue to blame me or actually try to find scum?

[Nimueh]

P.edit. What part of I’m feeling nauseous did you also not read? Yes, fair, when I don’t feel like constantly throwing up, I do play better. Good job.

Is English your second language?

Is it your tenth?

[Nimueh]

I really want to hear other people’s reads and cases because Enter is hurting town by completely refusing to help me get into the game and clearly has no interest in correctly sorting me.

@Enter, What are you going to do when I flip town? Continue to blame me or actually try to find scum?

You won't flip town. I've tried to sort you, but instead of responding to my posts, you make excuses and claim you feel sick and then quote yourself calling me names. I even gave you plenty of time to answer my question, you posted multiple times in between. Instead of answering it, however, you ignored it, so I answered it for you.

You refuse to work with me or help me sort you at all. Stop trying to put the blame on me. It's not my fault your PM is red.

Yes I will, so answer my question. What are you going to do when that happens besides blaming me for your obsessive confibiasing my slot?

You’re probably going to blame my mislynch on me, despite my telling you that I’m sick.

So, who else do you scumread, although town will rightfully just ignore you after I flip anyway.

[Nimueh]

ding ding ding

END of ROUND 1

Fighters, back to your corners~

Can anyone other than Enter/NMSA talk to me, please? Because neither are doing anything useful.

[Nimueh]

I need a break. I'm going to rip the screen off my laptop if I hear any more of this braindead nonsense.

PEdit: yeah i don't have the capacity to deal with you right now.

Yeah, because you aren’t listening. Could I actually be making progress here? Do you have any other scumreads and actually valid reasons for them?

I know, I’m such an optimist. *sigh*

[Nimueh]

The funny thing is I came to the thread to try to get everything sorted out cuz this game is a mess. thanks nimueh for claiming TOWN

I’m town but I really think you’re that death tunnelled on me, so you probably actually believe that.

[Nimueh]

The funny thing is I came to the thread to try to get everything sorted out cuz this game is a mess. thanks nimueh for claiming TOWN

I’m town but I really think you’re that death tunnelled on me, so you probably actually believe that.

But the real question you should be asking yourself is why are you so hellbent on playing this badly and why are you refusing to do anything other than wrongly call me scum?

I keep begging people to engage me, to help me get into this game and yes, you 100% should feel embarrassed about your awful play here because you aren’t even trying to examine any other slots but if I get mislynched, you will be forced to.

[Nimueh]

is it safe to come back into the thread yet

Oh thank God. I was hoping for someone thinking sanely, to post.

[Nimueh]

There was a WEEK of gameplay before you got here, Nimueh, and you've been here a couple hours. Your narcissistic belief that the game thread revolves around you baffles me. I've pushed other slots, I've read other slots, and I have a reasonably decent reads list all of which are things that cannot be said for you. I'm not death tunneling you, you came in here halfway through the game day and you pretend that nothing has happened but my read on you. The fact that you're so stubbornly blind to the fact that EVERYONE ELSE has been reading this game and developing repertoire with the other players (except elbirn) is ridiculous to me. There is more to this game than the few pages since you showed up. I know some people don't like to roll scum, but that's no excuse for throwing the game because of it. Get your head out of your rectum and play the game and quit with this ignorant crap. It's disgusting and annoying.

You can keep insisting I’m scum until hell freezes over and continue to insult me to excuse you terrible play since I started posting more but it doesn’t make it true.

You have the lion’s share of this blame. At least I’m sick, what’s your excuse?

[Nimueh]

P.edit, I have been trying to get you to give other reads but you just continue your deathtunnel on me and ignore it. You’re the one who’s making this game about me. I’m actually trying to get people to engage me because I’m well aware that I’m not caught up to the extent other people are. Still doesn’t make me scum, no matter how much you want that to be the case.

[Nimueh]

nimueh have you played with me before under an alt?

I have played with you before, yes. Please don’t ask me to elaborate more on that.

[Nimueh]

@urap fair point.
One minute and then I'll go.

You can keep insisting I’m scum until hell freezes over and continue to insult me to excuse you terrible play since I started posting more but it doesn’t make it true.

You have the lion’s share of this blame. At least I’m sick, what’s your excuse?

I excuse nothing and I make no excuses because I'm not a child that has to blame everything wrong that I do on my environment - on my sickness or on the people around me.

Believe whatever you like but I have way too much respect for NSG as a mod to lie about feeling unwell.

[Nimueh]

that's fine, just knowing you have is enough to lower the possible people you can be down to two people anyways

and btw that means that them playing like this is NAI

I would still tr you here, even if I hadn’t played with you before but obviously that helps.

[Nimueh]

If you are feeling unwell and it is directly impacting your state of mind to the degree of your playability you know you don't have to post, right?

Well, I’ve been feeling like this for days and it’s unfair to the mod and I’d rather not replace out if I can help it but I probably should drink some ginger tea or something and take a break.

[Nimueh]

that's fine, just knowing you have is enough to lower the possible people you can be down to two people anyways

and btw that means that them playing like this is NAI

I would still tr you here, even if I hadn’t played with you before but obviously that helps.

is there more to it or just from that one point

I tr you for you stances on what you see as easy lurker lynches and on tone.

[Nimueh]

Spoiler:

Afaik it's because "lurker SHRUG"

Do you think his ISO seems particularly scummy? I don’t didn’t find anything particularly pinging about it.

he's being pushed because he's an easy push

I haven't seen any evidence of otherwise, and even then my personal 'scumread' of him is a bit of a stretch that's dependent on my Brigitte scumread

sooooooooooooooo

I think you’re probably town. I agree, tictac seems like mislynchbait.

Why do you think Ank is town?

Scum prey on easy lynchbaity players, so it’s townie to question that. I also agree with her as I don’t see why he’s scum. I think scum is probably on his wagon though.

one thing I'm curious about is why you believe this is town-indicative for me specifically

I think it’s townie, in

general

.

[Nimueh]

that's fine, just knowing you have is enough to lower the possible people you can be down to two people anyways

and btw that means that them playing like this is NAI

I would still tr you here, even if I hadn’t played with you before but obviously that helps.

is there more to it or just from that one point

I tr you for you stances on what you see as easy lurker lynches and on tone.

So you are town reading easy stances to make. And on a fake tone.
Do you normally town read people who agree with you on stances for lurker lynches?

That isn’t what I said. I said I thought it’s townie in general to be leery of easy lurker lynches.

What “fake” tone? Why do you read it as fake?
I always look for either the town or scum motivation in what people post, so I tend to tr people whose posts demonstrate, what I view as a townie motivation. And I see Ankamius’ stance on easy lurker lynches, as townie.

[Nimueh]

Nimueh is refusing to answer questions, is claiming that Enter is misrepping, and is in fact doing the same thing. Back up your claims with evidence instead of strawmanning. Nimueh is scum.

VOTE: Nimueh

No but you’re probably something I won’t say.

I already did. Do I keep having to spam the thread with the post where I already answered his question, despite him insisting otherwise?

I might be more likely to take it back if you quoted both his question and your answer, to make it clear that you did in fact do so. If you do not, I will continue to assume you are scum.

I’d rather deal with your post directly, if that’s okay with you. From what I’ve gathered, Enter seems to be of the false impression that I’m seeking a free pass for being sick and think that should somehow make me immune from votes, which is something I’ve never even suggested. He misconstrued

repeatedly

my explanation about my reasoning for initially voting Tris. What I said was I didn’t think it was townie, if it was the SOLE reason for her vote and she agreed and unvoted me. I’m happy to continue to address your concerns but I can’t deal with someone who continues to misrep me and twist my words, which is why I’d rather respond to you, than Enter.

[Nimueh]

There was a WEEK of gameplay before you got here, Nimueh, and you've been here a couple hours. Your narcissistic belief that the game thread revolves around you baffles me. I've pushed other slots, I've read other slots, and I have a reasonably decent reads list all of which are things that cannot be said for you. I'm not death tunneling you, you came in here halfway through the game day and you pretend that nothing has happened but my read on you. The fact that you're so stubbornly blind to the fact that EVERYONE ELSE has been reading this game and developing repertoire with the other players (except elbirn) is ridiculous to me. There is more to this game than the few pages since you showed up. I know some people don't like to roll scum, but that's no excuse for throwing the game because of it. Get your head out of your rectum and play the game and quit with this ignorant crap. It's disgusting and annoying.

You can keep insisting I’m scum until hell freezes over and continue to insult me to excuse you terrible play since I started posting more but it doesn’t make it true.

You have the lion’s share of this blame. At least I’m sick, what’s your excuse?

I think you're sick, but that your response was pretty scummy. And a reaction is exactly what Enter has been trying to provoke all game.

What kind of reaction, do you think he’s trying to provoke? I can see why you would think that but I really felt like I was banging my head against a brick wall with him, so I just gave up. I tend to get frustrated when I keep making the same point numerous times and it continues to get disregarded.

[Nimueh]

Can someone tell me why Rec is town?

because of his reaction to the first fake-hammer

maybe if i keep reminding myself i won't forget for later: there was definitely scum on the nmsa wagon

@Enter, any particular reason, you ignored this post?

I didn't, you posted that after anything I've posted today.

So, you’re here now. Do you tr Rec? He put NMSA at L-1.

why is putting nmsa at l-1 important and/or relevant and/or scummy?

I’m thinking my initial read on him was wrong. An L-1, is obviously relevant, because it makes it easy for scum to hammer. Thank you for answering my question.

[Nimueh]

Nimueh
Ankamius
Skitter
Urap

are all town. I don’t understand Brigitte’s Ankamius tunnel. Her case on her is not making sense to me and she discredits any opinion that doesn’t support her Ankamius sr.

Brigitte started pushing Ankamius when she disagreed with her NMSA push iirc. It concerns me that she serms to be sr and shading her for having a different opinion.

[Nimueh]

What I said was I didn’t think it was townie

I can think of two reasons right now why Nimueh s reaction to tris is bad, and one of them I know she knows the answer to.

VOTE: nimueh

Yeah because I actually am not feeling well and your vote is bad.

Bad as in wrong, not scummy.

Huh.

First quote was about Tris’ initial vote on me, which I already explained.

Second was about YOUR vote because your wrong about your sr on me.

I’m not going to rehash our earlier convo.

[Nimueh]

I don’t know what your point is @Enter but I know you not going to listen to anything I say anyway. Thankfully, NMSA is actually trying to sort me.

[Nimueh]

Really mostly only interested in a Nimueh MISlynch right now, TBH, for reasons I've mentioned in previous posts. Why is everyone on Brigitte right now?

PEdit: yep, I fixed it. Look a couple posts above that one.

Because I’m not scum here, Sherlock, as much as you’d like that to be the case.

[Nimueh]

Nimueh
Ankamius
Skitter
Urap

are all town. I don’t understand Brigitte’s Ankamius tunnel. Her case on her is not making sense to me and she discredits any opinion that doesn’t support her Ankamius sr.

Brigitte started pushing Ankamius when she disagreed with her NMSA push iirc. It concerns me that she serms to be sr and shading her for having a different opinion.

@Brigitte, can you link me to one of your town and scumgames? Thanks.

[Nimueh]

I don’t know what your point is @Enter

That's obvious

but I know you not going to listen to anything I say anyway.

The problem is that I HAVE been listening to what you've been saying.

Thankfully, NMSA is actually trying to sort me.

The difference between me and NMSA, princess, is tone and effort. I put in more of the latter, but his former is nicer and softer for people with skin thinner than silk.

Really mostly only interested in a Nimueh MISlynch right now, TBH, for reasons I've mentioned in previous posts. Why is everyone on Brigitte right now?

PEdit: yep, I fixed it. Look a couple posts above that one.

Because I’m not scum here, Sherlock, as much as you’d like that to be the case.

Congrats, your defense of yourself is "I'm town." How long have you been playing mafia?

Your attitude to me is unnecessarily close to being abusive. If you can’t talk to me with civility, I won’t be responding to anymore of your posts.

[Nimueh]

@Brigitte, can you link me to one of your town and scumgames? Thanks.

This is fake.

If she wanted to actually meta Brigitte, she'd click on Brigitte and look, and then see that she has literally no other games on her account. If she actually wanted to READ Brigitte, she'd read the game thread or ISO Brigitte, both of which would bring Nimueh to this exchange right here:

What's your alt, Brigitte?

I plead the fifth.

where she'd see that Brigitte has no interest in outing her alt at this point in time.

This post was made for show alone.

I haven’t fully read the game and haven’t seen those posts. Does she have no games under this account?

You’re really tiresome.

[Nimueh]

@Enter, I will say this only ONCE, so pay close attention:

I will answer ANYONE ELSE’s questions EXCEPT YOURS

. Capiche?

[Nimueh]

@Enter, I will say this only ONCE, so pay close attention:

I will answer ANYONE ELSE’s questions EXCEPT YOURS

. Capiche?

Spoiler:

[Nimueh]

Your continuous self meta is useless. You realize that right?

+1
This is true. Please stop.

maybe I'm more concerned with how people get to their reads of me than what the reads are?

Your interpretation of your play is different from someone else's interpretation of your play. When did what I did at the beginning of the game, I saw like four different people explain what I did. None of them were wrong, they were all just completely and entirely different, and not the way I would have described it.

Please stop making posts telling us how to read you, because it doesn't help.

I haven’t fully read the game and haven’t seen those posts. Does she have no games under this account?

You’re really tiresome.

Considering it's on page one of the game thread, and it takes two clicks to see what games she has played (I checked immediately after you made that post), your lack of effort here is appalling. It's almost like... dun dun dun.. it's all for show.

@Enter, I will say this only ONCE, so pay close attention:

I will answer ANYONE ELSE’s questions EXCEPT YOURS

. Capiche?

Seeing as I was trying to sort you, that seems like a pretty dumb move on your part, but to each their own.

How were you doing that? All you have done is say inaccurate things about me, and when I correct you, you use that to further you incorrect perceptions on me. Saving my sanity, is now considered “dumb”? Good to know.

I haven’t read the beginning of the game. I already explained why and of course you’re going to not believe me and criticize me for it. I’m still not sure what you’re trying to accomplish, because it still looks to,me like we’re just going around circles again.

If someone doesn’t listen to me 99 times, better than even chance I’m going to have trouble believing that changes the 100th time.

[Nimueh]

i kinda think ank is town now actually
she comes off a lot better than brigitte does in both of their recent exchanges

Explain. I'd argue she comes off more controlled, but pretty sure that's more scummy than townie, IMO.

What about the

content

of Ankamius’ posts? I think she is demonstrating a townie thought process .

[Nimueh]

i kinda think ank is town now actually
she comes off a lot better than brigitte does in both of their recent exchanges

Explain. I'd argue she comes off more controlled, but pretty sure that's more scummy than townie, IMO.

What about the

content

of Ankamius’ posts? I think she is demonstrating a townie thought process .

*crickets*

[Nimueh]

Did you want Enter to respond to that?

I’m not holding my breath.

He won’t respond to anything that contradicts his confiabias on me. I don’t understand your Ankamius sr because I’ve been agreeing with a lot of her posts. I liked the last two of NMSA’s posts for example.

I think the whole seeking towncred theory is often unreasonably way overstated, especially when it would seem to be in direct conflict with a scum wincon.

[Nimueh]

Nimuh. How old are you? I am just curious here.

I don’t see how that is relevant to the game.

[Nimueh]

i kinda think ank is town now actually
she comes off a lot better than brigitte does in both of their recent exchanges

Explain. I'd argue she comes off more controlled, but pretty sure that's more scummy than townie, IMO.

What about the

content

of Ankamius’ posts? I think she is demonstrating a townie thought process .

*crickets*

You haven't read the first page of the game thread and you have no examples of where you think Ank's posts show a townie thought process displayed here, you haven't answered my arguments, you've been openly hostile towards me, and multiple times you've told me you're planning on ignoring me, and yet somehow it's important to you to defend Ank's towncred? Interesting.

So, you have no opinion wrt to the actual CONTENT of her posts then?

[Nimueh]

Did you want Enter to respond to that?

I’m not holding my breath.

He won’t respond to anything that contradicts his confiabias on me. I don’t understand your Ankamius sr because I’ve been agreeing with a lot of her posts. I liked the last two of NMSA’s posts for example.

I think the whole seeking towncred theory is often unreasonably way overstated, especially when it would seem to be in direct conflict with a scum wincon.

You like Ank because she makes posts you agree with....

In general, I tend to view mindmelding as a good thing, don’t you?

[Nimueh]

It concerns me that she serms to be sr and shading her for having a different opinion.

Theres a pattern here....

Yes, you’re not taking into account dissenting opinions. Like Rec, for example.

[Nimueh]

@Nimueh: How do you have posts of Ank's you agree with when you haven't even read the first page of the game?

@Brig: yeah, I think you pretty much just rehashed a lot of the thoughts I was having when going through your exchange. I really don't see a townie side to the manufactured interaction Ank had with you at all and urap and skitter both look significantly worse for their parts in the process. I'm ok with an ank or nimueh lynch at this point, I think. I think I want to look more closely at urap and skitter before I make definite reads on them, I feel weird because I was pretty sure of urap as town earlier but I don't really see much town to his play here, either.

I find the thought process, she has demonstrated in many of her posts - the ones I have read, to be coming from a town mindset.

Fwiw, I appreciate this post. It actually looks like you’re actually trying to engage me here.

[Nimueh]

It concerns me that she serms to be sr and shading her for having a different opinion.

Theres a pattern here....

I mean yeah, almost all of Nim's posts reek of falsity.

Hmmm . . . spoke to soon?

[Nimueh]

You know, you're probably right.

The best course of action isn't for me to push a pl. But I also refuse to play with you.

@Mod Please replace me. So sorry.

Please don’t, replace outs are bad for the game.

If people replace out everytime the have an issue with anyone’s behaviour, it just encourages them to keep doing it.

[Nimueh]

And I see Ankamius’ stance on easy lurker lynches, as townie.

And I'm going to keep telling you that I do this as scum too. This isn't a good reason to townread me.

Alright but I don’t see the point of anyone doing that as scum because imo, it’s contrary to their wincon.

[Nimueh]

^--- These posts are all short, wooden, and to the point. They're there to get the job done and nothing else. There's no emotion here at all or nuance that gives the posts personality.

Ummm I was incredibly sick during those posts....

good god could you miss the mark harder if you triedpeople are on brigitte because brig is refusing to engage w/ me and instead is just antagonizing me and going "reck isnt reading the game so idc what he says"and then people are asking brig why she thinks that about me and she's refusing to answer them or give examples

And people wonder why I say reck isn't reading.

again, a town response to this would be "actually ________" with a link to where im wrong but a scum response is to continue discrediting me by saying im not reading

Can you give examples of this? Continuing to repeat he’s not reading, isn’t helpful.

[Nimueh]

That post was direct proof you haven't been reading.

What SPECIFICALLY has he not been reading?

[Nimueh]

my vote is staying parked on brigitte like until she's dead k bye

"I refuse to engage with a player unless she is already prematurely frustrated and emotional, and making further attempts later on is out of the question. I will now sit on her wagon until she is dead. Do not bother engaging with me further."

i dont know what the hell you're talking about with the second one. im not sure what game you're reading because that isn't at all what happened

ank asked me my thoughts on brig's case against ank
i gave my thoughts
brig ignored it and said i wasnt reading
i tried to engage brig multiple times about her opinion, every time she just said i wasnt reading and ignored me and refused to engage

it's a specific discrediting play. i'm not the one who started this shit with brigitte, she flipped around and started ignoring/discrediting me the SECOND i dared disagree with her case on ank
she's free to try to engage me but she has shown me absolutely nothing to make it worth my effort to continue trying to engage her since there's zero good faith there

my vote stays

I don't know how to tell you this.....


the world doesn't revolve around you.

You are purposely going out of your way to antagonize him here.

[Nimueh]

my vote is staying parked on brigitte like until she's dead k bye

"I refuse to engage with a player unless she is already prematurely frustrated and emotional, and making further attempts later on is out of the question. I will now sit on her wagon until she is dead. Do not bother engaging with me further."

excuse me?

literally what fucking game are you reading jesus goddamn christ

at what point was brigitte emotional? was she frustrated/emotional all because i disagreed with her case on ank? bc if so, maybe mafia's not the game for her. and if not, then she had EVERY opportunity not to discredit me

you're putting the entire burden on me and giving brigitte a pass

what the fuck

She was frustrated when you tried to engage her.

I'm asking you to try to re-engage her right now instead of deciding you'll deathtunnel her for the rest of the game based on a single passing experience.

I think maybe you should take your own advice.

[Nimueh]

If I offended you by saying you played like a manipulative, conniving person, I apologize. That was kinda mean. If it means anything to you, most of my friends are manipulative, conniving people too. Also me, now, I guess.

But calling me a “narcissist” isn’t?

[Nimueh]

Also me, now, I guess.

scum slip

Why? I’m definitely not a fan of Enter’s play here. Much of it - specifically directed towards me, has struck me as a bit mean spirited and head in the sand, deathtunnely but I don’t think he’s been necessarily scummy - possibilibly unintentionally scumsiding, maybe.

[Nimueh]

Nim and Brig are scum. At least one of Enter and Ank are town. I'll willingly wagon Nim or Brig at any point.

Whoa, you really are bad at this game.

[Nimueh]

Skitter. I will forgive you if you scumread me.

That’s kind of a weird thing to say.

[Nimueh]

I can't tell if your general frustration here is from your alignment or just the game state here. So I actually wanted you to vent to get an understanding for if I am making something out of nothing Chara.

then it's not going to happen, and i know you probably won't but please don't purposely try and get me use a mafia thread as a venting space.

every time i vomit emotions all over the thread i get townread. i don't want to do that anymore because it's exhausting, and defaulting to my fear of being mislynched and then using that to get townread is just not very respectable play.

i am frustrated with the gamestate because all of my townreads besides Flubber seem to be nullscumming me but not actually pushing me, or pushing each other.

pedit: i read the post Brigitte, give me a minute. i'm catching up while i talk to you.

Okay. Gonna townread you now.

Cool, we agree on something.

[Nimueh]

Nim and Brig are scum. At least one of Enter and Ank are town. I'll willingly wagon Nim or Brig at any point.

unfortunately nothing you're scumreading nim for is ai
(not that i know how to read either but yeah)
i'm undecided wrt brig atm

scumreading nim for refusing to do what I asked, despite making it clear that I would continue to scumread

Because I got tired of repeating myself yesterday, ad nauseum.

[Nimueh]

1146: i really dislike nmsa's vote on Nimueh here. the timing seems opportunistic, he just sort of swoops in amid a threeway argument and votes the weakest player in it.

To me, the the thing that pinged me more than anything, is saying me and Brigitte are s/s.

Because other than the fact that both of us are currently being currently pushed, there’s absolutely nothing else linking us.

So, that’s making me incredibly suspicious of them.

[Nimueh]

Nimueh is refusing to answer questions, is claiming that Enter is misrepping, and is in fact doing the same thing. Back up your claims with evidence instead of strawmanning. Nimueh is scum.

VOTE: Nimueh

No but you’re probably something I won’t say.

I already did. Do I keep having to spam the thread with the post where I already answered his question, despite him insisting otherwise?

I might be more likely to take it back

if you quoted both his question and your answer, to make it clear that you did in fact do so. If you do not, I will continue to assume you are scum.

I’d rather deal with your post directly, if that’s okay with you. From what I’ve gathered, Enter seems to be of the false impression that I’m seeking a free pass for being sick and think that should somehow make me immune from votes, which is something I’ve never even suggested. He misconstrued

repeatedly

my explanation about my reasoning for initially voting Tris. What I said was I didn’t think it was townie, if it was the SOLE reason for her vote and she agreed and unvoted me. I’m happy to continue to address your concerns but I can’t deal with someone who continues to misrep me and twist my words, which is why I’d rather respond to you, than Enter.

Specifically this is the big problem. It's not okay with me. I said so. You didn't do what I asked. Nim is scum.

You forgot to say me and Brigitte are buddies, which isn’t even remotely opportunistic at all, right?

FOS on you for that.

[Nimueh]

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically

none of the reasons that NMSA has given

. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

Okay.

I think you and NMSA are partners here. What do I win?

[Nimueh]

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

How To Agree With a Read For Towncred Without Supporting the Player Accurately Scumreading You 101.

Nice distancing.

[Nimueh]

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

How To Agree With a Read For Towncred Without Supporting the Player Accurately Scumreading You 101.

They really need to make that class have a shorter name.

Yep, I called it. I want bragging rights.

[Nimueh]

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

How To Agree With a Read For Towncred Without Supporting the Player Accurately Scumreading You 101.

They really need to make that class have a shorter name.

Okay. Scum 101.

Am I the only one not buying this scum theater?

[Nimueh]

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

How To Agree With a Read For Towncred Without Supporting the Player Accurately Scumreading You 101.

They really need to make that class have a shorter name.

Okay. Scum 101.

I thought this was an elective?!
Scum 101 is a required course.

God, if anyone still thinks NMSA and Brighite aren’t s/s, you haven’t been paying attention.

[Nimueh]

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

How To Agree With a Read For Towncred Without Supporting the Player Accurately Scumreading You 101.

They really need to make that class have a shorter name.

Okay. Scum 101.

I thought this was an elective?!
Scum 101 is a required course.

It's required for you.

Yeah we get it already.

You both blatantly spewed yourselves.

[Nimueh]

I reread Nimuh ISO three times just see if I could sort this out. And all I am getting is something seems off about the interactions between her and Enter. Not sure what is sending of flags here.

Oh this just keeps getting me better and better. lmao

[Nimueh]

Theres obviously a personality clash going on here but the reactions from Nimuh are....not what I expect given what I can tell personality wise here? Like I would think there would be a hard scum or town read on Enter, and theres neither.

Why is that? That is just strange to me right now.

Is it really? You know I’m not buying a word of this right? You and NMSA need to try and coordinate better. Free advice.

[Nimueh]

I don't know. People seem to know this person and I don't. Does Nimueh usually get into these types of arguments with players but not have strong opinions on their alignment? Because that seems like it would be a normal response given the personality I am seeing.

I was/am still not feeling well and hadn’t yet got into the game.

I’m really curious though, I don’t think you and NMSA put enough effort into to finding more buddies for me, from this playerlist.

[Nimueh]

@Enter, any particular reason, you ignored this post?

I didn't, you posted that after anything I've posted today.

So, you’re here now. Do you tr Rec? He put NMSA at L-1.

this bit was bothering me - i'm not sure why the fact he put nmsa at l-1 is relevant to his alignment.
i mean, it definitely *could* be, but she seems to be indicating here that it's an inherently ai act (in which direction i can't actually tell, now that i think about it), and i don't know why

I already explained that putting a player at L-1, makes it possible for scum to hammer. I’m not currently sr Reck anymore.

[Nimueh]

that's fine, just knowing you have is enough to lower the possible people you can be down to two people anyways

and btw that means that them playing like this is NAI

I would still tr you here, even if I hadn’t played with you before but obviously that helps.

i feel like the ank townread is lazy and/or undeveloped too

True, almost all of my posts yesterday could be categorized that way. However, my read on her hasn’t changed.

[Nimueh]

Nimueh
Ankamius
Skitter
Urap

are all town. I don’t understand Brigitte’s Ankamius tunnel. Her case on her is not making sense to me and she discredits any opinion that doesn’t support her Ankamius sr.

Brigitte started pushing Ankamius when she disagreed with her NMSA push iirc. It concerns me that she serms to be sr and shading her for having a different opinion.

why am i town

In addition to my agreeing with a lot of your reads, I like the way you continue to reassess your reads. I also can’t find any agenda behind your posts.

[Nimueh]

But calling me a “narcissist” isn’t?

If I condemn a person for a crime harshly, but the person apologizes and admits they perhaps did not mean to inflict the harm that they did, I feel bad and recognize I might have judged too quickly and too harshly.

If I condemn a person for a crime harshly, and the person goes out and commits a second crime, more heinous than the first, I recognize that perhaps my punishment should have been swifter and more forceful.

I think maybe you should take your own advice.

I did come back and try to re-engage you, and you refused me a second time.

You just answered your own question. It wasn’t at all cool what you said and yes, you absolutely do owe me an apology for that.

I don’t engage with anyone who uses mean-spirited attacks on me.

[Nimueh]

You are purposely going out of your way to antagonize him here.

I'm trying to get him to recognize that his stance is ignorant of the context with which he engaged Brigitte last night by attempting at assisting him in showing him how I view his stance.

But all she keeps telling him, is that he’s not reading the game?

[Nimueh]

Nim and Brig are scum. At least one of Enter and Ank are town. I'll willingly wagon Nim or Brig at any point.

unfortunately nothing you're scumreading nim for is ai
(not that i know how to read either but yeah)
i'm undecided wrt brig atm

scumreading nim for refusing to do what I asked, despite making it clear that I would continue to scumread

Because I got tired of repeating myself yesterday, ad nauseum.

All you did was claim that you had answered the wuestion. You never actually showed me or anyone else where you did so. If you do not, in your next three posts, quote me what post had the question, what post had your answer, and why it is valid, I will put you at conf!scum and you will not leave that point until you die.

But you don’t want to vote the person you think is my “buddy”? Why is that?

*popcorn*

[Nimueh]

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically

none of the reasons that NMSA has given

. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

Okay.

I think you and NMSA are partners here. What do I win?

This is 1.

I do think that. There was absolutely no reason for you to link us here, other than the fact that we’re both being pushed.

[Nimueh]

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

How To Agree With a Read For Towncred Without Supporting the Player Accurately Scumreading You 101.

Nice distancing.

This is 2.

If I’m the one who flips, you and/or Brigitte should follow, then I can die happy.

[Nimueh]

I can't imagine...you are a real person.

???

Please make sense, kthanx.

[Nimueh]

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

How To Agree With a Read For Towncred Without Supporting the Player Accurately Scumreading You 101.

They really need to make that class have a shorter name.

Yep, I called it. I want bragging rights.

That's three. I gave you fair warning here:

Nim and Brig are scum. At least one of Enter and Ank are town. I'll willingly wagon Nim or Brig at any point.

unfortunately nothing you're scumreading nim for is ai
(not that i know how to read either but yeah)
i'm undecided wrt brig atm

scumreading nim for refusing to do what I asked, despite making it clear that I would continue to scumread

Because I got tired of repeating myself yesterday, ad nauseum.

All you did was claim that you had answered the wuestion. You never actually showed me or anyone else where you did so. If you do not, in your next three posts, quote me what post had the question, what post had your answer, and why it is valid, I will put you at conf!scum and you will not leave that point until you die.

you made two posts after that, which I marked:

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically

none of the reasons that NMSA has given

. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

Okay.

I think you and NMSA are partners here. What do I win?

and

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

How To Agree With a Read For Towncred Without Supporting the Player Accurately Scumreading You 101.

Nice distancing.

This post makes three. Nim is conf!scum her own choice.

VOTE: NMSA

[Nimueh]

is NMSA and Nimueh like blood related?

Why do you keep asking such strange questions?

[Nimueh]

*by her own choice

Interesting, that you haven’t even tried to refute what I’ve been saying.

I was tr you until you slipped by linking me with Brigitte. No way you are town here.

[Nimueh]

is NMSA and Nimueh like blood related?

?

read your posts, you both are like on the same kind of wavelength.

But I'm not scumreading you

and NMSA

.

What?

[Nimueh]

I reread Nimuh ISO three times just see if I could sort this out. And all I am getting is something seems off about the interactions between her and Enter. Not sure what is sending of flags here.

Oh this just keeps getting me better and better. lmao

Nim is bussing Brig

.

Sure, that’s why I’m currently voting you.

This is not town.

I still think you’re s/s but your linking us is suspicious as fuck.

[Nimueh]

ngl i kinda want to vote nimueh; she feels really flat here for her and i'm kinda surprised that she's not scumreading enter here tbh

pedit

WHY ARE YOU ASKING MY OPINION!!!!!!

Why do you think I should be sr Enter? Why do you think I’m terrible at this game?

[Nimueh]

SKITTER. TELL ME WHAT READS TO GIVE THESE TWO!!!!

Ask yourself two questions. Did I make it clear what I wanted from Nim? Did she respond as requested? That should help you sort her.

Why did you link me and Brigitte? I’m not letting you worm out of this.

[Nimueh]

ngl i kinda want to vote nimueh; she feels really flat here for her and i'm kinda surprised that she's not scumreading enter here tbh

pedit

WHY ARE YOU ASKING MY OPINION!!!!!!

I DONT TRUST MYSELF RIGHT NOW!!!

chill. regardless of alignment you need to calm down and read isos for reads or something.

don't flail

.

I legit can’t tell anymore if this is bussing or not but you voting me and persisting in ignoring the elephant in the room, is pinging my scumdar off the charts rn.

[Nimueh]

this is surreal.

What do you think of Nim refusing to answer my questions, and her developing read of me and Vrig as the scumteam?

Why are you continuing to ignore my question?

You have 0 reason to link me and Brigitte here, other than we’re both being pushed

.

You continuing to ignore this, is scumclaiming.

[Nimueh]

so is putting someone at l-1 alwayhs scummy?
... like how do you think hammers happen?
and doesn't put someone at l-1 given the oppurtunity for *town* to hammer as well?

like you're treating the l-1 as an inherently scummy act and i don't know why

It can be sometimes and it was one of the first things to catch my attention. As I got further into the game, I realized it wasn’t scummy in this case.

[Nimueh]

that's fine, just knowing you have is enough to lower the possible people you can be down to two people anyways

and btw that means that them playing like this is NAI

I would still tr you here, even if I hadn’t played with you before but obviously that helps.

i feel like the ank townread is lazy and/or undeveloped too

True, almost all of my posts yesterday could be categorized that way. However, my read on her hasn’t changed.

Don't try to use this as an excuse for not answering my questions

.

Sorry, this isn’t working. You continuing to deflect my question about you linking me with Brigitte, is looking really realy bad for you rn.

[Nimueh]

Ank,

even though I think ur scum

.
Ur good people.

+5 honorary town points to you

.

Lolwut? Are you trying to get me to switch my vote?

[Nimueh]

VOTE: nimueh

Bad vote Skitter, I’m 100% flipping town.

[Nimueh]

idk rn
she feels kinda flat for her, and more ... going-through-the-motions-y
that could be a function of being sick, idk
her read on me and on ank are very shallow too

I still am but why are you ignoring NMSA linking me and Brigitte and never explaining why?

They’re either bussing Brigitte or that statement was opportunistic as fuck, for the reasons I’ve already stated.

Gun to head, they’re voting me while continuing to shade Brigitte and continuing to deflect my question about this, is what is making me think they could be linked.

[Nimueh]

Actually now that it's pretty much confirmed who Nim is, I wonder if my usual tell will work this game too.

About me or yourself?

[Nimueh]

Nim and Brig are scum. At least one of Enter and Ank are town. I'll willingly wagon Nim or Brig at any point.

unfortunately nothing you're scumreading nim for is ai
(not that i know how to read either but yeah)
i'm undecided wrt brig atm

scumreading nim for refusing to do what I asked, despite making it clear that I would continue to scumread

Because I got tired of repeating myself yesterday, ad nauseum.

All you did was claim that you had answered the wuestion. You never actually showed me or anyone else where you did so. If you do not, in your next three posts, quote me what post had the question, what post had your answer, and why it is valid, I will put you at conf!scum and you will not leave that point until you die.

But you don’t want to vote the person you think is my “buddy”? Why is that?

*popcorn*

because you're scummier, especially since you ignored the ultimatum entirely

WHY ARE BRIGITTE And ME S/S TOGETHER?

I’m not going to let this go. Answer the goddamned question already. I’m losing patience with you’re continuing to deflect it.

[Nimueh]

idk how to answer that without linking to the previous game i played with her and outing her main really tbh
just less invested, and less of an emotional response to being scumread
her reason for townreading me feels like textbook/classic/trite, and not like it's something she really believes/thinks strongly

I am not okay at all with being wrongly sr but if I can take out scum with me and help win the game, I think that’s more important.

[Nimueh]

*by her own choice

Interesting, that you haven’t even tried to refute what I’ve been saying.

I was tr you until you slipped by linking me with Brigitte. No way you are town here.

Interesting, that you haven't even tried to answer my simple question.

So, you link me with Brigitte and are absolutely refusing to say why? Like how are you not scum here? How?

[Nimueh]

Nim: I 100% know who you are. Does that change your read on me at all?

If so, why would it?

I already figured that out when you read me as NIA which is exactly how I’d have expected you to read me at the time you made that post. That was one of the main reasons I’m strongly tr you. Any other response att, would have made me suspicious.

[Nimueh]

I don't know what to do with this information.

Don’t threaten me with that or I will seriously consider replacing out.

[Nimueh]

uh remember what happened in the last game i played with you ??????????

You realize my hands are kind of tied in answering this kind of question?

I will just say that I want to be a player who is considered a valuable asset to town and not one who has a negative effect on the gamestate.

I’d be more than happy to elaborate on this via PM post-game, if you like?

[Nimueh]

SKITTER. TELL ME WHAT READS TO GIVE THESE TWO!!!!

Ask yourself two questions. Did I make it clear what I wanted from Nim? Did she respond as requested? That should help you sort her.

Why did you link me and Brigitte? I’m not letting you worm out of this.

Because both of you were scummy, though Brigitte is becoming marginally less so by comparison with you.

So, you’re saying you don’t see any partnery interactions between us then?

Because this is really not a good answer to my question. Sr both of us isn’t the reason I’m voting you,

linking us together

, is.

[Nimueh]

ngl i kinda want to vote nimueh; she feels really flat here for her and i'm kinda surprised that she's not scumreading enter here tbh

pedit

WHY ARE YOU ASKING MY OPINION!!!!!!

I DONT TRUST MYSELF RIGHT NOW!!!

chill. regardless of alignment you need to calm down and read isos for reads or something.

don't flail

.

I legit can’t tell anymore if this is bussing or not but you voting me and persisting in ignoring the elephant in the room, is pinging my scumdar off the charts rn.

the elephant in the room being?

You told Brigitte to stop “flailing” or something, which is why I think you two are linked. also that uberweird “course” exchange earlier.

[Nimueh]

i don't understand the narrative nimueh is pushing rn

NMSA is linking me and Brigitte. Both of us are currently being pushed. That strikes me as kind of opportunistic, don’t you think?

[Nimueh]

You just answered your own question. It wasn’t at all cool what you said and yes, you absolutely do owe me an apology for that.

I don’t engage with anyone who uses mean-spirited attacks on me.

Lol, you attacked me first.

*punches me
*me punches back

I don't talk to people who punch me

Your self-awareness is 0

Where did I attack or “punch” you?

[Nimueh]

VOTE: nimueh

Bad vote Skitter, I’m 100% flipping town.

Oh wow, Nim says she's town, must be town I guess.

I’m willing to hardclaim if it comes down to that.

[Nimueh]

I don't know what to do with this information.

Don’t threaten me with that or I will seriously consider replacing out.

Why would I threaten you with it?

Good, well I know that NMSA has been pushing for this.

Btw, why are you voting Tictac?

[Nimueh]

My initial reaction to Brigitte's interaction with Ank earlier on was to want to vote Brigitte even before everything that followed came. I think I want to take a moment to review Brigitte.

----------------------------------------------------------------

@Enter I think you have misinterpreted some of what Nim has been saying.

What I said was I didn’t think it was townie

I can think of two reasons right now why Nimueh s reaction to tris is bad, and one of them I know she knows the answer to.

VOTE: nimueh

Yeah because I actually am not feeling well and your vote is bad.

Bad as in wrong, not scummy.

Huh.

This was referring to your vote, not to mine.

Enter seems to be of the false impression that I’m seeking a free pass for being sick and think that should somehow make me immune from votes, which is something I’ve never even suggested.

VOTE: Nimueh

Anything to say about someone other than NMSA (Or I guess tictac)?

I’ve V/LA because I haven’t been feeling well, so no I’m not caught up yet but if this is your sole reason for for voting me, it isn’t a town one.

VOTE: Tris

Huh.

And in this post she wasn't saying I shouldn't vote for her because she's sick. The sickness was just the reason she wasn't caught up yet.

Thank you. I keep explaining it but neither Enter or NMSA are acknowledging it for some reason.

[Nimueh]

ngl i kinda want to vote nimueh; she feels really flat here for her and i'm kinda surprised that she's not scumreading enter here tbh

pedit

WHY ARE YOU ASKING MY OPINION!!!!!!

I DONT TRUST MYSELF RIGHT NOW!!!

chill. regardless of alignment you need to calm down and read isos for reads or something.

don't flail

.

I legit can’t tell anymore if this is bussing or not but you voting me and persisting in ignoring the elephant in the room, is pinging my scumdar off the charts rn.

the elephant in the room being?

You told Brigitte to stop “flailing” or something, which is why I think you two are linked. also that uberweird “course” exchange earlier.

flailing as in posting uselessly about how you can't get a read. the "course" thing was me scumreading her sarcasticly.

So, why isn’t your vote on her then, if you think she’s “flailing”?

[Nimueh]

You just answered your own question. It wasn’t at all cool what you said and yes, you absolutely do owe me an apology for that.

I don’t engage with anyone who uses mean-spirited attacks on me.

Lol, you attacked me first.

*punches me
*me punches back

I don't talk to people who punch me

Your self-awareness is 0

Where did I attack or “punch” you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphor

Thank you Captain Obvious?

I know it’s a metaphor.

[Nimueh]

I don't know what to do with this information.

Don’t threaten me with that or I will seriously consider replacing out.

Why would I threaten you with it?

Good, well I know that NMSA has been pushing for this.

Btw, why are you voting Tictac?

care to explain?

I’m referring to your posts trying to get Skitter or Ank to presumably guess at a possible alternative account for me.

[Nimueh]

ngl i kinda want to vote nimueh; she feels really flat here for her and i'm kinda surprised that she's not scumreading enter here tbh

pedit

WHY ARE YOU ASKING MY OPINION!!!!!!

I DONT TRUST MYSELF RIGHT NOW!!!

chill. regardless of alignment you need to calm down and read isos for reads or something.

don't flail

.

I legit can’t tell anymore if this is bussing or not but you voting me and persisting in ignoring the elephant in the room, is pinging my scumdar off the charts rn.

the elephant in the room being?

You told Brigitte to stop “flailing” or something, which is why I think you two are linked. also that uberweird “course” exchange earlier.

flailing as in posting uselessly about how you can't get a read. the "course" thing was me scumreading her sarcasticly.

So, why isn’t your vote on her then, if you think she’s “flailing”?

because, as I have said, you'rs scummier

None of that explains why you thinked we’re linked.

[Nimueh]

@NMSA, You can read us as both scummy without linking us, you know.

[Nimueh]

I’m really disappointed in Skitter’s vote. She’s sr me for NOT omgussing Enter. Like that kind of hurts.

[Nimueh]

I've agonized over this for a while, and usually I'm really against replacing out, but I think it's just bad for me to try to play with a person that refuses to engage with me whatsoever.

@mod please replace me

Please reconsider. I really don’t want you to replace out.

[Nimueh]

I've agonized over this for a while, and usually I'm really against replacing out, but I think it's just bad for me to try to play with a person that refuses to engage with me whatsoever.

@mod please replace me

Please reconsider. I really don’t want you to replace out.

Look, I’d rather replace out than you. if there’s no other way. Please don’t do this. :/

[Nimueh]

I've agonized over this for a while, and usually I'm really against replacing out, but I think it's just bad for me to try to play with a person that refuses to engage with me whatsoever.

@mod please replace me

Please reconsider. I really don’t want you to replace out.

Look, I’d rather replace out than you. if there’s no other way. Please don’t do this. :/

I honestly would rather be mislynched than have anyone replace out over me. I really was sick, now that I’m feeling a bit better, I think you should give this another chance.

[Nimueh]

i don't love the vote either. obviously i don't know you but i'm agreeing with Ank that you look more like town than scum and skitter's case on you just seems to be gut based about you seeming flat.
it just doesn't feel right. especially with both me and Ankamius giving reasons for you to be town that skitter doesn't seem to have engaged with.

Ankamius is one of the few people who can read me correctly and yeah, I don’t understand why she’s not taking either yours or Ank’s cases into account.

[Nimueh]

@NMSA, You can read us as both scummy without linking us, you know.

That is what he has been saying...

i mean... yes. i don't get what your issue is, Nim. nmsa never said you're scum together because of a link, he just said he was reading you both as scum.

He said I was bussing Brigitte.

[Nimueh]

I reread Nimuh ISO three times just see if I could sort this out. And all I am getting is something seems off about the interactions between her and Enter. Not sure what is sending of flags here.

Oh this just keeps getting me better and better. lmao

Nim is bussing Brig.

@Chara

[Nimueh]

I apologize. I would feel much worse for asking to replace out and then saying "nevermind," than I would just replacing out.

So, you’ve changed your mind then? I meant what I said, if you replace out because of me, I really don’t think I’d want to play anymore. So, I sincerely hope you’ve reconsidered.

[Nimueh]

ngl i kinda want to vote nimueh; she feels really flat here for her and i'm kinda surprised that she's not scumreading enter here tbh

pedit

WHY ARE YOU ASKING MY OPINION!!!!!!

If you think you know who I am here, you should know why I’m not sr Enter.

[Nimueh]

I'm not going to say "I'm replacing out" and then not replace out.

You can still change your mind. Does it matter at all to you that I don’t want you to? Since, you claim I’m the reason for it.

[Nimueh]

uh remember what happened in the last game i played with you ??????????

You realize my hands are kind of tied in answering this kind of question?

I will just say that I want to be a player who is considered a valuable asset to town and not one who has a negative effect on the gamestate.

I’d be more than happy to elaborate on this via PM post-game, if you like?

i mean yes i think this should be addressed at some point, and i told you that at the time
i'm not entirely sure what i'm supposed to be doing here exactly; you know how i feel about this

I am a person that isn’t opposed to re-evaluating prior positions on things, if I gain a new perspective on it. Unfortunately, you know why I can’t really elaborate on this.

[Nimueh]

i don't love the vote either. obviously i don't know you but i'm agreeing with Ank that you look more like town than scum and skitter's case on you just seems to be gut based about you seeming flat.
it just doesn't feel right. especially with both me and Ankamius giving reasons for you to be town that skitter doesn't seem to have engaged with.

if ank is that confident that she's town i'll unvote; i'm not entirely sure i can read her rationally rn for a whole lot of out-of-game reasons and so i don't particularly trust my read on her

she does feel scummy to me tho

if this becomes/is a problem i'll rep-out
(and again i would not have joined this game if i knew who her main was)

Please don’t, especially not on top of Enter replace out.

[Nimueh]

uh remember what happened in the last game i played with you ??????????

You realize my hands are kind of tied in answering this kind of question?

I will just say that I want to be a player who is considered a valuable asset to town and not one who has a negative effect on the gamestate.

I’d be more than happy to elaborate on this via PM post-game, if you like?

You're working pretty hard to be counter-productive to that mission statement.

Okay, I’m going to try to say this as nicely as possible. I haven’t been feeling well and yes, that unfortunately has adversely affected my play. You really haven’t tried to give me much of a chance either. It really isn’t fair of you, to put this all on me.

[Nimueh]

the 'cleanest' wagon is definitely your wagon imo
also xtoxm's slot is already voting there

i kinda want to vote tris too actually

Why is Tris scummy?

[Nimueh]

idk how good my reads are this game so far
i have a bunch of townreads (your slot, ank, reck, and enter)
and a bunch of people that are null because they've been lurking-ish (luckily creature replaced one of those, so hopefully that'll be easy)
and i don't ahve super strong scumreads rn

i'm not townreading chara yet, and nimueh feels scummy to me but i'm not sure i should be relying on my read there so yeah
not entirely sure where i want to vote rn
maybe i'll go back to brigitte.

ok i wont sheep you then lol
i looked at elbirns iso and i wanna say its his scum game
my meta on him is like 4 years old tho so idk

Interesting. It did seem like he could be coasting.

[Nimueh]

Town:
Nimueh (personality+meta read)
Xtoxm (Urap2 had very town thought processes)
xRECKONERx (pass for later, still most likely town)
NotMySpamAccount (pass, likely newbtown)
Skitter30 (town thought processes and trajectories)
tris (weak townread by now, general town thoughts)

Null:
Enter (not entirely sure about him, could go either way?)
Creature (mostly absent slot)
Elbirn (mostly absent slot)

Current Scumpool:
Chara
Flubbernugget
Brigitte

Why is Chara scum?

[Nimueh]

I'm mostly not confident in reading you because I have a history of not reading you correctly.

I scumread you in Undertale and I only caught your slot in Death Note through A50 :V

Considering Chara doesn’t know who I am, I doubt very much she would be pocketing me and why doesn’t scum!Chara jump on my wagon, considering before you obvtown’d me, I was an easy mislynch?

[Nimueh]

VOTE: ANK

Why?

[Nimueh]

K I'm 66 pages back, no one will talk to me, and I now refuse to acknowledge anything before this post. The game starts now.

Gosh golly gee wizz I cant wait to start playing this game with you guys

VOTE: Chara

Why are you being a meanie to skitty shes nice

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Elbirn

Bizarro vote reasoning.

[Nimueh]

i think i like your reaction to being flashwagoned

I think I agree with this.

UNVOTE:

[Nimueh]

Chara's reads list makes a lot of the null-scum reads she's been getting make more sense

Something about skitter's approach to this game being nightless pinged me but that was from a morning skim and I don't really rsmber what it was but i still think theyre town

I found it amusing gave so much towncred to Brigitte both being anti-survivalist and then her debating that read.

[Nimueh]

Nimueh. Why aren't you voting?

I’m undecided rn.

[Nimueh]

the elbirn wagon was: brigitte, chara, xtoxm, nimueh

am i missing anyone?
my gut says that there's prob scum in the elbirn voters, probably in this order of likeliness: nimueh > brigitte = chara > xtoxm
(i think nimueh's vote is quite bad actually)

==

elbirn's reaction to his wagon was quite townie imo; not really vibing a wagon there rn

==

kinda want tris
or nimueh
==

What happens if we no lynch? It's not like anyone's gonna get shot. I actually don't see the point of a deadline in this game at all

if we no-lynch and there's no nk tomorow night we're in the exact same place tomorrow with no flips and like .... i don't see the point and i odn't want a rehash of today; it's been going on forever with nothing conclusive happening

==

Succinct replaces Enter.

hello!

==

Chara's reads list makes a lot of the null-scum reads she's been getting make more sense

Something about skitter's approach to this game being nightless pinged me but that was from a morning skim and I don't really rsmber what it was but i still think theyre town

I found it amusing gave so much towncred to Brigitte both being anti-survivalist and then her debating that read.

what does this mean

==

VOTE: tris

i might switch to nimueh idk; none of the current wagons (2+ votes) are really vibing with me rn

You’re seriously sr me for that? I’m amused that you strongly tr anyone for that reason specifically. Do I really need to find games to debunk that theory?

[Nimueh]

Actually

Wait why are we voting tris and not nim? Would seem to be the conclusion to your post, skitter

She claims to trust Ankimius’ read on me but she clearly doesn’t.

[Nimueh]

Town:

Nimueh (personality+meta read)

Xtoxm (Urap2 had very town thought processes)
xRECKONERx (pass for later, still most likely town)
NotMySpamAccount (pass, likely newbtown)
Skitter30 (town thought processes and trajectories)
tris (weak townread by now, general town thoughts)

Null:
Enter (not entirely sure about him, could go either way?)
Creature (mostly absent slot)
Elbirn (mostly absent slot)

Current Scumpool:
Chara
Flubbernugget
Brigitte

[Nimueh]

@Skitter , my point being that it isn’t a good reason to tr anyone solely on them acting anti-survivalist and/or debating it with you.

So, how exactly is that scummy?

[Nimueh]

Not much to respond to here. Anyone want to lay out why they're voting me?

I don’t know who to vote for but whomever I vote for, Skitter will undoubtedly find my reasoning scummy.

At this point, I don’t see any alternative to either sheeping or not voting at all. *sigh*

Hopefully, that won’t be the case by D2 - assuming I don’t get mislynched before that, that is. :/

[Nimueh]

What happened to your scumread of NMSA?

I still don’t like his linking of me and Brigitte but I’m doubting that read a bit.

I decided to sheep Xtoxm on his initial scum!Elbirn read but then he changed his mind on that, so I unvoted him.

[Nimueh]

Also, was there a reason you were quoting me there?

No, not particularly. Like you, I’m waiting to hear reasons.

[Nimueh]

I’m frustrated that I haven’t yet really gotten into this game and I’ll get mislynched before I do. Skitter’s read on me is dead wrong in any case.

I should have a confident sr by now but I only have confident townreads.

I think a flip, will change that for me.

Some games, I just know right away but others I absolutely do not. :/

[Nimueh]

Not sure if Elbirn is the best option for today, but him being online and disappearing without posting at all is pissing me off.

I think this is town.

[Nimueh]

K I'm 66 pages back, no one will talk to me, and I now refuse to acknowledge anything before this post. The game starts now.

Gosh golly gee wizz I cant wait to start playing this game with you guys

VOTE: Chara

Why are you being a meanie to skitty shes nice

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Elbirn

Bizarro vote reasoning.

I realize NOW that this was probably a joke but the fact that I didn’t realize it immediately, doesn’t make me scum my gut is suddenly screaming at me that I may have just possibly caught a deep wolf and no, I don’t mean Elbirn.

[Nimueh]

Spoiler:

oh that reminds me: is forgetting that the game is nightless ai at all?

i'm kinda skimming nimueh's posts and gun-to-head i think she's kinda scummy but i don't know if that's because i'm carrying a lot of animus from how she behaved in the last game i played with her; i would not have joined this game if i had known who her main was

i'm kinda like actively not trying to engage her so i'm trying to decide if i should just replace out here because trying to not sort her is obviously counterproductive

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i kinda think ank is town now actually
she comes off a lot better than brigitte does in both of their recent exchanges

Explain. I'd argue she comes off more controlled, but pretty sure that's more scummy than townie, IMO.

i don't know - it kinda felt like she was approaching her convos with brigitte with a goal (first convo refuting brigitte's scumread, seconc convo getting another opinion on brigitte and then trying to gague if scum!brigitte would back down under pressure), whereas brgitte felt a lot more like she was flailing when ank pushed her and like she didn't know how to respond ank; it felt less like she was approaching the exchange with a consistent thought process that guided her posts/pushes/responses, but rather that she just said the first thing that popped into her head when she was met with resistance by me/urap2/ank/reck - discrediting reck by saying he wasn't reading the game.

like the convo last night wrt ank and then reck: she started off with objecting to ank asking reck how he was reading brigitte/brigitte's case on reck because reck had been scumreading her all game so he's obviously biased. once i pointed out that wasn't true (ie his scumread on her had developed in the last 20 pages or so), and that scumreading someone dones't mean they can't objectively look at a post, brigitte's posting shifted to discrediting reck in general on the basis that he isn't reading the game, which is kinda obviously not true. and i kinda disliked that she was using that as an excuse to not engage with reck at all; it kinda felt like that once reck started siding with ank her next goal was to try to discredit him - like she went from objecting to ank asking reck how he was reading brigitte to discrediting reck and i don't follow that as a townie thought process really, but it kinda makes sense to me as a response by scum to getting pushed and getting backed into a corner

i do think that ank (in middle of that convo with brigitte) saying that she thought scum!brigitte would have dropped the push and then unvoting was townie because i think that scum!her would continue pushing brigitte there while she had momentum to try to score a mislynch; a couple of ank's posts at that juncture seem like she was rethinking her brigitte read in real-time, in response to brigitte's reaction to her

idk i hope i explained that well enough
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She even made in my mind one of the scummiest post trying to get me to stop my push by saying "I am giving you a chance here" and

framed it in a way where she basically couldn't really lose.

If I continue, I am the unreasonable person. If I stop she wins by not having me stop. That wasn't a real olive branch that was a Xanatos gambit.

actually i think i understand where brigitte was coming from last night a bit more; i didn't get why she thought that ank was framing her as being unreasonable but this explanation makes more sense to me and it explains a lot of the frustration that was threading through her posts last night

i still dont't get why this exchange with ank was followed by the reck-isn't-reading thing tho

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does ank not look manipulative and controlled to you?

not there, no

what do you think about the fact that ank put her vote back on?

i liked at that time that she unvoted because it felt like if she's scum there's little motivation for her to unvote briggite when people are just coming 'round to side with ank; much more scum motivation to continue pushing and to try to get that mislynch. re-voting when a brigitte wagon appears kinda undermines that reasoning tho; i dont' like the unvote quite as much now but i still think it's kinda townie since it came in conjunction with posts that indicated that ank was trying to re-evaluate brigitte in response to how brigitte was acting towards her (specifically 1281 and 1296 taken together)

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damn, even more reason not to try and send them into a rage.

I've asked the thread generally a number or times now, but here's to you specifically.

What motivation did you have for provoking him like that?

I told you immediately during it I was trolling him. What do you think I am trying to do here?

i think that this is an awful way to play the game but i'm not sure it's actually scummy
UNVOTE:
(although i missed you saying last night htat you were trying to troll him)

Yes, I become accountable for not dying later in the game and for having to either keep up the town leader persona or to find a way to 'apathy out' of that role.

This way I don't have to do any of that lol

P sure this is nightless as of RN, and "not dying" is a pretty silly excuse to lynch a town member.

No deadlines mafia we kept Nancy alive even though she was strong town because she was pocketed by the entire scum team.

well yeah

I'd also have the burden of making sure that kind of argument is the first thing people think of when they ask why I'm still alive rather than "oh they're a deepwolf"

ngl one of the reasons why i'm fine townbinning you for now is because i figure that if you're scum it'll probably become obvious if you never die (i guess i keep forgetting that the game is nightless rn so maybe this isn't the best idea)

ngl one of the reasons why i'm fine townbinning you for now is because i figure that if you're scum it'll probably become obvious if you never die (i guess i keep forgetting that the game is nightless rn so maybe this isn't the best idea)

Why do you expect an ank nk?

not particularly like rn or tonight (or i guess not-tonight given the game is nightless) but i'd kinda expect her to be deaded before like lylo or so if she continues playing like this in a game that had normal nks

ngl i kinda want to vote nimueh; she feels really flat here for her and i'm kinda surprised that she's not scumreading enter here tbh

pedit

WHY ARE YOU ASKING MY OPINION!!!!!!

so is putting someone at l-1 alwayhs scummy?
... like how do you think hammers happen?
and doesn't put someone at l-1 given the oppurtunity for *town* to hammer as well?

like you're treating the l-1 as an inherently scummy act and i don't know why

i don't love the vote either. obviously i don't know you but i'm agreeing with Ank that you look more like town than scum and skitter's case on you just seems to be gut based about you seeming flat.
it just doesn't feel right. especially with both me and Ankamius giving reasons for you to be town that skitter doesn't seem to have engaged with.

if ank is that confident that she's town i'll unvote; i'm not entirely sure i can read her rationally rn for a whole lot of out-of-game reasons and so i don't particularly trust my read on her

she does feel scummy to me tho

if this becomes/is a problem i'll rep-out
(and again i would not have joined this game if i knew who her main was)

actually maybe i wouldn't call Brigitte town. she'd be in a null category because i don't know what to do there.
Ank's stance i get because it seems in line with how she's been forming her reads, but the lack of reasoning i've seen from skitter about Brigitte scum is bothering me.
but i might've missed that reasoning somewhere, if so i would really appreciate a quote.

i basically decided to sheep ank on brigitte (kinda exactly like how i just sheeped you on varsoon and stopped pushing him last time even though i didn't particularly agree)

i don't particularly see it but rn i don't townread brigitte really and i townread ank enough and am ready for the day to be over enough that i'm just willing to sheep her

none of the other wagons rn are particularly appealing to me, and i think since the gameday is starting to come to a close we should be coalescing onto one wagon instead of starting new ones. (i do kinda like the idea of a tris wagon tbh)

like it's not that i really scumread brigitte, it's more like it's the most agreeable wagon to me rn out of all of the existing wagons (and the fact that the wagon is largely formed by slots i townread reassures me too)

not sure why you've lost your townread on me

I don't like 1923

Ugh I'm really not sure now

do tell

c) i think that referring to me incorporating the currently nightless aspect of the game into my reads 'tmi' is ridiculous and borderline shading given that it's something that's in the mod's like third post of the game. of *course* that's going to influence how i approach the game, *especially* after jingle's game.

being paranoid of me for townreading you while you were being your town self is

ridiculous

.
and i know it'll influence you, i brought it up as a concern to talk about it,

and this is the second time you've dislike me simply

having

a thought.

the first was u2.

i mean that's how the game works ...?
like people judge each other for their thoughts; when yours don't seem townie to me i'm going to object

i honestly dont' remember rn what you said about u2; it's been like a bajillion pages since that happened

elbirn do you like scum or town more?

the elbirn wagon was: brigitte, chara, xtoxm, nimueh

am i missing anyone?
my gut says that there's prob scum in the elbirn voters, probably in this order of likeliness: nimueh > brigitte = chara > xtoxm
(i think nimueh's vote is quite bad actually)

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elbirn's reaction to his wagon was quite townie imo; not really vibing a wagon there rn

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kinda want tris
or nimueh
==

What happens if we no lynch? It's not like anyone's gonna get shot. I actually don't see the point of a deadline in this game at all

if we no-lynch and there's no nk tomorow night we're in the exact same place tomorrow with no flips and like .... i don't see the point and i odn't want a rehash of today; it's been going on forever with nothing conclusive happening

==

Succinct replaces Enter.

hello!

==

Chara's reads list makes a lot of the null-scum reads she's been getting make more sense

Something about skitter's approach to this game being nightless pinged me but that was from a morning skim and I don't really rsmber what it was but i still think theyre town

I found it amusing gave so much towncred to Brigitte both being anti-survivalist and then her debating that read.

what does this mean

==

VOTE: tris

i might switch to nimueh idk; none of the current wagons (2+ votes) are really vibing with me rn

[Nimueh]

VOTE: Skitter

I don’t like how she seems to be trying to keep pushing Chara, Tris and especially me, after acknowledging she’s not confident in her reads and not even taking Ankamius’ tr on me into account. It bothers me, that despite claiming to not be confident in her read on me, that she isn’t even taking account Ankamius’ read on me which is confident nor Chara’s but then she also seems to be pushing her and Tris.

I just can’t help get it out of my head that Skitter is actually looking for a reason to mislynch me here.

[Nimueh]

Actually

Wait why are we voting tris and not nim? Would seem to be the conclusion to your post, skitter

A) this has been mentioned before but i have issues playing with nim for *reasons* and would not have joined the game if i knew what her main was - i dont know how much my dislike for her posting is being influenced by that (ie i can't tell rn if i dont like her posts because they're scummy or because i'm biased against them because of out of game reasons)

B) ank (who i understand has more history with her than i do) says she's being townie for her

C) my gut says tris is a better vote rn

You’re seriously sr me for that?

I’m amused that you strongly tr anyone for that reason specificall

y. Do I really need to find games to debunk that theory?

I dislike your vote; it's not the main reason i would vote you tho, more that your tone feels weird/wrong to me, and again, idk if that's actually ai for you here.

Idk what the bolded is referring to

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@Skitter , my point being that it isn’t a good reason to tr anyone solely on them acting anti-survivalist and/or debating it with you.

So, how exactly is that scummy?

I think that was townie of brigitte; i don't know why me thinking this amuses you (ie amusement is a strange reaction to me giving a reason for townreading someone)

I asked you what you were referring to there - i never said, or implied, that i found that statement specifically scummy. Dont put words in my mouth.

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2046

A) not sure why you think i'd 'undoubtedly' find any vote you make scummy given that i've never said anything of the sort and i don't think there's any basis for this conclusion from my posting

B) you're using that premise - that i'd find all/any of your votes scummy - as an excuse to not vote and/or sheep people and absolve yourseld of the responsibility of deciding where to vote

C) the last line is a hyperbolic over-reaction to someone *not* voting you

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2055

Yep, i agree - me *not* voting someone is indicative that i'm trying to mislynch them, good job.

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!remind me to talk ablut your reasoning for your elbirn vote - i have more i wanna say but i gotta bounce

Spoiler:

oh that reminds me: is forgetting that the game is nightless ai at all?

i'm kinda skimming nimueh's posts and gun-to-head i think she's kinda scummy but i don't know if that's because i'm carrying a lot of animus from how she behaved in the last game i played with her; i would not have joined this game if i had known who her main was

i'm kinda like actively not trying to engage her so i'm trying to decide if i should just replace out here because trying to not sort her is obviously counterproductive

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i kinda think ank is town now actually
she comes off a lot better than brigitte does in both of their recent exchanges

Explain. I'd argue she comes off more controlled, but pretty sure that's more scummy than townie, IMO.

i don't know - it kinda felt like she was approaching her convos with brigitte with a goal (first convo refuting brigitte's scumread, seconc convo getting another opinion on brigitte and then trying to gague if scum!brigitte would back down under pressure), whereas brgitte felt a lot more like she was flailing when ank pushed her and like she didn't know how to respond ank; it felt less like she was approaching the exchange with a consistent thought process that guided her posts/pushes/responses, but rather that she just said the first thing that popped into her head when she was met with resistance by me/urap2/ank/reck - discrediting reck by saying he wasn't reading the game.

like the convo last night wrt ank and then reck: she started off with objecting to ank asking reck how he was reading brigitte/brigitte's case on reck because reck had been scumreading her all game so he's obviously biased. once i pointed out that wasn't true (ie his scumread on her had developed in the last 20 pages or so), and that scumreading someone dones't mean they can't objectively look at a post, brigitte's posting shifted to discrediting reck in general on the basis that he isn't reading the game, which is kinda obviously not true. and i kinda disliked that she was using that as an excuse to not engage with reck at all; it kinda felt like that once reck started siding with ank her next goal was to try to discredit him - like she went from objecting to ank asking reck how he was reading brigitte to discrediting reck and i don't follow that as a townie thought process really, but it kinda makes sense to me as a response by scum to getting pushed and getting backed into a corner

i do think that ank (in middle of that convo with brigitte) saying that she thought scum!brigitte would have dropped the push and then unvoting was townie because i think that scum!her would continue pushing brigitte there while she had momentum to try to score a mislynch; a couple of ank's posts at that juncture seem like she was rethinking her brigitte read in real-time, in response to brigitte's reaction to her

idk i hope i explained that well enough
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She even made in my mind one of the scummiest post trying to get me to stop my push by saying "I am giving you a chance here" and

framed it in a way where she basically couldn't really lose.

If I continue, I am the unreasonable person. If I stop she wins by not having me stop. That wasn't a real olive branch that was a Xanatos gambit.

actually i think i understand where brigitte was coming from last night a bit more; i didn't get why she thought that ank was framing her as being unreasonable but this explanation makes more sense to me and it explains a lot of the frustration that was threading through her posts last night

i still dont't get why this exchange with ank was followed by the reck-isn't-reading thing tho

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does ank not look manipulative and controlled to you?

not there, no

what do you think about the fact that ank put her vote back on?

i liked at that time that she unvoted because it felt like if she's scum there's little motivation for her to unvote briggite when people are just coming 'round to side with ank; much more scum motivation to continue pushing and to try to get that mislynch. re-voting when a brigitte wagon appears kinda undermines that reasoning tho; i dont' like the unvote quite as much now but i still think it's kinda townie since it came in conjunction with posts that indicated that ank was trying to re-evaluate brigitte in response to how brigitte was acting towards her (specifically 1281 and 1296 taken together)

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damn, even more reason not to try and send them into a rage.

I've asked the thread generally a number or times now, but here's to you specifically.

What motivation did you have for provoking him like that?

I told you immediately during it I was trolling him. What do you think I am trying to do here?

i think that this is an awful way to play the game but i'm not sure it's actually scummy
UNVOTE:
(although i missed you saying last night htat you were trying to troll him)

Yes, I become accountable for not dying later in the game and for having to either keep up the town leader persona or to find a way to 'apathy out' of that role.

This way I don't have to do any of that lol

P sure this is nightless as of RN, and "not dying" is a pretty silly excuse to lynch a town member.

No deadlines mafia we kept Nancy alive even though she was strong town because she was pocketed by the entire scum team.

well yeah

I'd also have the burden of making sure that kind of argument is the first thing people think of when they ask why I'm still alive rather than "oh they're a deepwolf"

ngl one of the reasons why i'm fine townbinning you for now is because i figure that if you're scum it'll probably become obvious if you never die (i guess i keep forgetting that the game is nightless rn so maybe this isn't the best idea)

ngl one of the reasons why i'm fine townbinning you for now is because i figure that if you're scum it'll probably become obvious if you never die (i guess i keep forgetting that the game is nightless rn so maybe this isn't the best idea)

Why do you expect an ank nk?

not particularly like rn or tonight (or i guess not-tonight given the game is nightless) but i'd kinda expect her to be deaded before like lylo or so if she continues playing like this in a game that had normal nks

ngl i kinda want to vote nimueh; she feels really flat here for her and i'm kinda surprised that she's not scumreading enter here tbh

pedit

WHY ARE YOU ASKING MY OPINION!!!!!!

so is putting someone at l-1 alwayhs scummy?
... like how do you think hammers happen?
and doesn't put someone at l-1 given the oppurtunity for *town* to hammer as well?

like you're treating the l-1 as an inherently scummy act and i don't know why

i don't love the vote either. obviously i don't know you but i'm agreeing with Ank that you look more like town than scum and skitter's case on you just seems to be gut based about you seeming flat.
it just doesn't feel right. especially with both me and Ankamius giving reasons for you to be town that skitter doesn't seem to have engaged with.

if ank is that confident that she's town i'll unvote; i'm not entirely sure i can read her rationally rn for a whole lot of out-of-game reasons and so i don't particularly trust my read on her

she does feel scummy to me tho

if this becomes/is a problem i'll rep-out
(and again i would not have joined this game if i knew who her main was)

actually maybe i wouldn't call Brigitte town. she'd be in a null category because i don't know what to do there.
Ank's stance i get because it seems in line with how she's been forming her reads, but the lack of reasoning i've seen from skitter about Brigitte scum is bothering me.
but i might've missed that reasoning somewhere, if so i would really appreciate a quote.

i basically decided to sheep ank on brigitte (kinda exactly like how i just sheeped you on varsoon and stopped pushing him last time even though i didn't particularly agree)

i don't particularly see it but rn i don't townread brigitte really and i townread ank enough and am ready for the day to be over enough that i'm just willing to sheep her

none of the other wagons rn are particularly appealing to me, and i think since the gameday is starting to come to a close we should be coalescing onto one wagon instead of starting new ones. (i do kinda like the idea of a tris wagon tbh)

like it's not that i really scumread brigitte, it's more like it's the most agreeable wagon to me rn out of all of the existing wagons (and the fact that the wagon is largely formed by slots i townread reassures me too)

not sure why you've lost your townread on me

I don't like 1923

Ugh I'm really not sure now

do tell

c) i think that referring to me incorporating the currently nightless aspect of the game into my reads 'tmi' is ridiculous and borderline shading given that it's something that's in the mod's like third post of the game. of *course* that's going to influence how i approach the game, *especially* after jingle's game.

being paranoid of me for townreading you while you were being your town self is

ridiculous

.
and i know it'll influence you, i brought it up as a concern to talk about it,

and this is the second time you've dislike me simply

having

a thought.

the first was u2.

i mean that's how the game works ...?
like people judge each other for their thoughts; when yours don't seem townie to me i'm going to object

i honestly dont' remember rn what you said about u2; it's been like a bajillion pages since that happened

elbirn do you like scum or town more?

the elbirn wagon was: brigitte, chara, xtoxm, nimueh

am i missing anyone?
my gut says that there's prob scum in the elbirn voters, probably in this order of likeliness: nimueh > brigitte = chara > xtoxm
(i think nimueh's vote is quite bad actually)

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elbirn's reaction to his wagon was quite townie imo; not really vibing a wagon there rn

==

kinda want tris
or nimueh
==

What happens if we no lynch? It's not like anyone's gonna get shot. I actually don't see the point of a deadline in this game at all

if we no-lynch and there's no nk tomorow night we're in the exact same place tomorrow with no flips and like .... i don't see the point and i odn't want a rehash of today; it's been going on forever with nothing conclusive happening

==

Succinct replaces Enter.

hello!

==

Chara's reads list makes a lot of the null-scum reads she's been getting make more sense

Something about skitter's approach to this game being nightless pinged me but that was from a morning skim and I don't really rsmber what it was but i still think theyre town

I found it amusing gave so much towncred to Brigitte both being anti-survivalist and then her debating that read.

what does this mean

==

VOTE: tris

i might switch to nimueh idk; none of the current wagons (2+ votes) are really vibing with me rn

viewtopic.php?f=51&t=76766&user_select%5B%5D=29653

This is an ISO of a Skitter scumgame, where she obvtown’d as scum to the end. I think everyone who is locktowning or close to locktowning her, should take a look at this.

[Nimueh]

Not much time to post, but skitter is a strong townread, and it should be easier for everyone else to see now why Nim and Brig are scum.

So that means you couldn’t possibly be wrong then?

She was a strong tr in that game I just linked too, that’s how she won.

[Nimueh]

Nim isn't scum

I think I just need flips to be able to sort any more, my mind is jumbled irt this game

Yeah basically. I'm just making a list of people i dont townread and want to flip one of them

Me too.

[Nimueh]

Couldn't Brigitte have acted like she did to give the appearances that she doesn't care about getting lynched. If that's what she was trying to do, it seems to have worked,

That was my point, that it wasn’t a valid reason for Skitter to locktown her on and her defensiveness to my pointing that out is pinging me, amongst other things.

I didn’t sr Enter because it felt like he really believed in his sr on me. I’m obviously a lot more suspicious of NMSA - mainly because of the absurd me/Brigitte linking but his push on me still sounds more believable to me, than Skitter’s. Skitter seems to me to be looking for reasons to push me. This becomes super obvious, when you compare her reads on me with someone like Chara, who clearly lacks any agenda wrt his read on me is concerned.

[Nimueh]

K I'm 66 pages back, no one will talk to me, and I now refuse to acknowledge anything before this post. The game starts now.

Gosh golly gee wizz I cant wait to start playing this game with you guys

VOTE: Chara

Why are you being a meanie to skitty shes nice

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Elbirn

Bizarro vote reasoning.

I realize NOW that this was probably a joke but the fact that I didn’t realize it immediately, doesn’t make me scum my gut is suddenly screaming at me that I may have just possibly caught a deep wolf and no, I don’t mean Elbirn.

Can you go over this again, because I dont understand your meaning. It seems like you got two sentences jumbled together in the middle there.

Specifically, are you saying that based on the quoted posts, the deep wolf you've caught is...Skitter? If so, what do I/chara have to do with it?

Skitter is pushing a sr on me partially based on this vote. Chara along with Tris, are amongst the people she seems to be pushing. I’m suspicious of her, because she seems to be sr me on a for a lot of NAI reasons, including this vote and earlier she jumped on me re: the Reck L-1 thing. In a nutshell, despite at her own admission not having “confident” reads, she immediately jumps on things she should either view as NAI or questioning me about, instead of immediately jumping to a sc of me. Her disregarding the reads of someone, who otoh, does actually have a

confident

read on me - Ankamius - is very concerning to me.

[Nimueh]

This makes chara and succinct the main points of interest on the brigette wagon

Why? Because they were on the end of that wagon?

I wish Brigitte had hardclaimed BEFORE she self-hammered because reasonable chance whomever hammered after that, would be scum.

I wasn’t online for most of yesterday, I thought we would have one more day. I’m still not tr Skitter but Brigitte flip makes me feel worse now about NMSA. Considering his hard scumread on me and Brigitte and knowing it was Brigitte on the chopping block and not me, why did he only consider voting her at L-1?

I can’t help wondering if I had been the leading wagon instead of Brigitte, would his vote also have been on Brigitte then?

[Nimueh]

Yeah basically

Are you saying nmsa's scum read was fake?

I don’t know, I just thought it was strange he didn’t flip to Brigitte, given how hard he was pushing a connection between us.

[Nimueh]

Yeah Nim I dont understand what point you mean to make, can you explain? With Brig flipping town, it's not as if a scum-nmsa were avoiding bussing his buddy or something. Scum-nmsa doesn't have a reason not to vote brig.

I'm mainly confused with your last paragraph though, like...why would nmsa stop his vote-parking on you if you became the lead wagon?

I was speculating that if he knew we were both flipping town.

[Nimueh]

maybe the nks turn back on when we lynch scum, idk

i have to at some point go back and look at the circumstances of the votes on the brigitte wagon but off the cuff if there's scum on there i'd guess it to be between: {reck/tris/succint}

kinda want to do this for now until i sort out how i feel about the brigitte/tris wagons

VOTE: flubber
i have like no read on him and can't really remember much of anything he's said this game

Skitters post to start the day feels a bit out of place too for some reason

Mmmmmmm I kind of thought that too, mostly re: "wowie where's the NK?", but I dont know that scum says this because I'd assume they'd be particularly aware that theres no NK coming up if night phases arent happening yet.

And I dont like that she votes flubber after positing scum in reck/tris/succinct

Do you see something else here or have I covered your thoughts more or less?

Agree that her Flubber vote makes 0 sense based on that post.

[Nimueh]

the entire post just feels... weird

it's setup spec

followed by saying that there may be scum in half the lynch wagon

then instead of sorting them, uses her vote to try to sort somebody else...?

like those are thoughts that make sense but the way they're ordered and written feels a lot more like she didn't have a whole lot to say but felt compelled to put more down on the page

it doesn't fit the context of what her thought processes have looked like to me

I still don’t buy her reasons for sr me. Her reasons, both based on my Reck L-1 thing and later Elbirn vote, seemed over reachy to me. I also really dislike all of her Ankamius’ NK comments. It makes me think she is thinking about you being NK’d alot. She very likely would have hard pushed a wagon on me, if it weren’t for you. I think she dialed that back down because it would look suspicious after your obvtown read on me.

[Nimueh]

I think I'm townreading somebody I shouldn't

Most likely.

Skitter?

[Nimueh]

Why was Succint voting Ank?

It was Enter’s vote iirc.

He wasn’t very happy with the Brigitte wagon. I don’t really know why he voted Ankamius. I think it had something to do with that though.

[Nimueh]

Mmmmmmm I kind of thought that too, mostly re: "wowie where's the NK?", but I dont know that scum says this because I'd assume they'd be particularly aware that theres no NK coming up if night phases arent happening yet.

And I dont like that she votes flubber after positing scum in reck/tris/succinct

Do you see something else here or have I covered your thoughts more or less?

I try not to be hyper-critical of posts that vote for me but I'm glad I'm not the only one that

I think it’s kind of hypocritical of her to jump on me for my reads/votes and do something like that. I don’t really sense a lot of conviction on any of her reads and is throwing her vote anywhere.

I initially thought her whole survivalist thing with Brigitte may have been townie post-flip but I think it could have also been scum wk for towncred post-flip, I suppose.