Mini 2064 - Giffy-Q (Game Over!)

[Prince of Renais]

Hey guys I got Miller on my reroll

Also it's a shame the groomsbride is a whore

[Prince of Renais]

I am also cop who gets a random target one second

[Prince of Renais]

I have a guilty on prince of Renais

[Prince of Renais]

Wait that's me and I'm town so that cop claim must be scum

[Prince of Renais]

I chime in with a haven't you people ever heard of shutting the goddamn door no it's much better to face these things with a sense of poise and rationality

[Prince of Renais]

lynching rc seems like bullying don't do it

[Prince of Renais]

You guys all smell

[Prince of Renais]

blackjacks do all 3 of you collectively want to go out with me

[Prince of Renais]

Krazy has to wear a dva cosplay though

[Prince of Renais]

VOTE: enter

[Prince of Renais]

A clear conscience don't need no mercy

[Prince of Renais]

I am in a hood with MariaR and Dunnstral

[Prince of Renais]

We have one free invite we were adding you or GIF

[Prince of Renais]

Noooooooo ;(

[Prince of Renais]

i'm making my own townblock. so far it's only me, myself, and i, but we'll get there.
Renais hasn't explained why they've joined my wagon yet, that information is needed on my very exclusive townblock application.

I think that if you have a confident read it's worth following if I have nothing better to do

[Prince of Renais]

Time spent sorting me is better spent elsewhere.

I'll never be part of the town block

Also I do think Enter could be scum

[Prince of Renais]

We're all masons by the way

[Prince of Renais]

Do you want to go

punk?

[Prince of Renais]

Slaxx scummy

[Prince of Renais]

i can save the brunch if you let me run it

[Prince of Renais]

Triforce of courage

[Prince of Renais]

Why are you voting my mason

[Prince of Renais]

/me sunglasses

[Prince of Renais]

Lol

[Prince of Renais]

SLAXX GAMMA HYDRA OR LOLICY LYNCH

[Prince of Renais]

SLAXX GAMMA HYDRA OR LOLICY LYNCH

[Prince of Renais]

SLAXX GAMMA HYDRA OR LOLICY LYNCH

[Prince of Renais]

i wish i didn't read the last few posts

[Prince of Renais]

if maria thinks dunnstral is scum then we should powerlynch dunnstral and then powerlynch maria if she's wrong.

not yet, obviously give her time to get settled in the read, but.

[Prince of Renais]

rce's logic may be (is) awful but I fail to see why you guys think that makes him more likely to be scum.

[Prince of Renais]

mariar is scumreading dunnstral. there's no reason to be voting anyone until this situation gets sorted out because if she is still scumreading him later he's the lynch today.

[Prince of Renais]

Didn't get what you meant. That's semantics though. You could choose 10 slots at random and there could be 0 scum there. I maintain that as a starting point, sorting 6 players is far better than sorting all 12 from a starting point of 0 reads.

Based on the same reasoning isn't it arbitrarily just as good to sort the 7 non-neighbourhood slots that obviously also contain at least 1 scum?

[Prince of Renais]

also, if we assume 3 scum in 13 players, each slot actually has an individual 23% chance to be scum. much higher than 10!

pedit: Maria isn't omnipotent. besides, i don't have more than a mild townread on her, it isn't enough to sheep yet. i don't feel like pausing the game to wait to resolve one interaction. there are 10 other players to think about.

no one said that mariar was omnipotent. but she has a very strong track record reading dunnstral. given that I struggle to read dunnstral I'm happy to defer to her on this.
also if you don't townread mariar that makes this even better, because as far as I remember she has never pushed on Dunn as town on town so if dunn is town, free Maria sort.

[Prince of Renais]

oh. that's new.

i dunno i'll read them i guess i kinda mentally checked out of reading when i saw maria calling dunn scum

[Prince of Renais]

ok. I was under a different impression.

[Prince of Renais]

better than what, RCE?

[Prince of Renais]

VOTE: rcenigma

[Prince of Renais]

this was not a passive aggressive attack on wisdom

i just think that rce is scummy

[Prince of Renais]

holy fuck enter i didn't want to have to do anything this game but i would consider it a personal affront, with the scumgame that you have played so far, to not lynch you d1.

VOTE: enter

[Prince of Renais]

enter is scum and transparently so.

[Prince of Renais]

this good

[Prince of Renais]

i demand more votes on enter or i am going to be very unhappy.

[Prince of Renais]

i'm just bored at this point.

[Prince of Renais]

ok i think maria is town and dunn is scum

i'm gonna vote maria, it seems like the correct play

VOTE: mariar

[Prince of Renais]

\o/

[Prince of Renais]

no thats not how it works it's like multiplication and negatives

double town makes you scum.

vote yourself please

[Prince of Renais]

the fact that all 3 blackjack heads are lurking is probably not a good sign

[Prince of Renais]

hi shiro

will u be my friend

[Prince of Renais]

the way that chara is dancing around calling dunnstral scummy but not voting intrigues me. also calling me leanscum. not a fan

[Prince of Renais]

sure, you've given reasons. scum you would give reasons for why you're not voting your scumbuddy obviously. you were already trying to direct attention from dunn away when i first brought it up.

[Prince of Renais]

please cite "encouraging the dunn wagon"

[Prince of Renais]

makes this even better, because as far as I remember she has never pushed on Dunn as town on town so if dunn is town, free Maria sort.

i just had a game where she did.
i'm not flipping Dunnstral just to sort Maria when i could try and sort both.
but i'm not interested in that right now anyway. i do think Dunn looks worse than Maria right now. what do you think of RC and Shiro?

i'd also like to know why Wisdom is being blatantly scum, as opposed to the last game where that was said and he was town.

also yes, Enter is town. that's one of my better reads so far.
i keep thinking Slacks is Varsoon. :'<

Wisdom: kind of scumreading Renais, throwing out the mild townread from before. also considering voting Dunn but i'm admittedly "push-Dunn-for-half-the-game-when-he's-town" shy.

Renais: the reason i haven't voted Dunn is in my post.
as for answering Wisdom's question about who else i'm scumreading... you caught me. :>

wait, you were suggesting we were partners? why would i encourage the Dunn wagon without voting it if he was my partner? pretty garbage distancing.

this is all of your mentions of dunnstral.

how exactly does saying that you're considering voting someone but not doing it constitute encouraging the wagon?

[Prince of Renais]

like you discredited MariaR's dunnstral read, called them scum, then tried to get my focus elsewhere. then you again agreed that dunn was scummy but again refused to vote them.
then you make the bizarre claim that you're encouraging the dunn wagon when you attempted to distract from it earlier and at best gave a lukewarm response to it this time around.

[Prince of Renais]

are you really going to attempt to use a clearly meme mariar vote against me?

[Prince of Renais]

also, what's with the whataboutism? why does my vote matter here? when I call your asssociatives with dunn (who is unflipped) scummy why do you immediately try to turn it back on me?

[Prince of Renais]

yes, I "claim to support" the dunnstral wagon. I am probably the single most important reason that he is getting wagoned right now given that I brought it up again. I am not going to lynch him before he has posted more so that MariaR can get enough content from the slot so that I can be super confident in her read there.

[Prince of Renais]

no: I want

mariar

to have more than 7 posts from dunnstral to read him off of. that's really clear if you read my post, but nice shade.

[Prince of Renais]

[Prince of Renais]

I am not going to lynch him [dunnstral] before he [dunnstral] has posted more so that MariaR can get enough content from the slot so that I can be super confident in her [mariar's] read there.

[Prince of Renais]

fairly convenient excuse to not support lynching dunnstral D1 regardless of what mariar says.

[Prince of Renais]

i feel like you wouldn't justify yourself this much as town.

[Prince of Renais]

'pretty manipulative of you' lol

[Prince of Renais]

au revoir scum chara.

[Prince of Renais]

Desperado: Chara

[Prince of Renais]

nice playing with you all if this is wrong but that was gross as hell play if chara was town

[Prince of Renais]

VOTE: chara

if you don't think that chara can tell the difference between a daykill and a desperado there's no hope for you. kill it.

[Prince of Renais]

Desperado: Chara

i'm going to go ahead and hope this is fake, but if it's real Renais might just be bad.

still don't like RC and i really really hated Eeveelution's pop in there. if Wisdom is townreading RC a lot i'd probably listen to that, however.

normally i'd be upset but i'm a little overgamed right now.
Eeveelution and Dunn have a good shot at being scum but that's early reads. maybe Eevee is who i would put the most money on.

nice playing with you all if this is wrong but that was gross as hell play if chara was town

i don't mind you scumreading me and i don't even mind you killing me, but i don't like you putting your wrong decision on me. i thought your push came from a dishonest place.

like these reactions are all super, super fake.

[Prince of Renais]

nah crag hack.

[Prince of Renais]

i think that you panicked and didn't consider that you were supposed to pretend you were becoming conftown instead of confscum.

[Prince of Renais]

i'm going to go ahead and hope this is fake, but if it's real Renais might just be bad.

if it's real renais might just be bad? why would you say this if you thought i was dead.

[Prince of Renais]

ok yeah. it wasn't actually a desperado.

dayvig: Chara

[Prince of Renais]

[Prince of Renais]

giffles where are you

[Prince of Renais]

sorry if you're town but after that last line not that sorry.

[Prince of Renais]

i'll pm gif.

[Prince of Renais]

day does not end. or at least it didn't in the source game.

[Prince of Renais]

sorry I actually misread my role PM its

Daykill: Chara

[Prince of Renais]

Where are the knives?

[Prince of Renais]

... even after that attack, you're still standing in my way...? Wow... you really ARE something special. But don't get cocky. Up until now, I've only been using a fraction of my REAL power! Let's see what good your DETERMINATION is against THIS!!

Hyper Goner: Chara

[Prince of Renais]

Unsigned posts are Slaxx presumably? Will Gamma be signing?

~~~Dara~~~

is this really

what the entirety of the blackjacks hydra

has to say right now?

[Prince of Renais]

is this really

what the entirety of the blackjacks hydra

has to say right now?

so you're ignoring that Slaxx is here..?

how the fuck am I ignoring anything?

3 reasonably strong town players have done fuck all this game and they entered the thread at a particularly interesting point and all they had to say was to ask another hydra about their signing preferences

why am I supposed to townread that, Chara? I think that you should be better than to have played the game that you have.

[Prince of Renais]

scumreading me at this point in the game makes you an amazingly bad player in and of itself.

[Prince of Renais]

VOTE: Blackjacks

come do things!

[Prince of Renais]

I'm just going to ignore you for a while and focus on other stuff, sorry.

[Prince of Renais]

hey SSS, come wagon blackjacks with me and make them do useful stuff.

[Prince of Renais]

VOTE: Eevee

talk to me about eevee

never played with them

didn't see anythign convincing in their iso

pls vote blackjacks with me.

[Prince of Renais]

EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THAT HYDRA HAS A META OF LURKING AS SCUM

And Ruru made the wolfiest pop in of all time during the dayvig debacle

They are the best lynch if they continue to lurk thank u friends

[Prince of Renais]

Dunn hard lurks constantly as town and his posting isn't that bad.

The difference in the quality of these wagons are massive.

[Prince of Renais]

Also Dunn is Dunn

Blackjacks is 3 people who tryhard as town

[Prince of Renais]

What do I have backwards?

[Prince of Renais]

I'm not talking about what they did in this game

I'm talking about the fact that Dunn being underwhelming is very common whereas between the 3 of these people someone's gonna tryhard as town, and Ruru even posted but posted absolute jack

[Prince of Renais]

Not posting any content is alignment indicative for that hydra

[Prince of Renais]

Like I said already wisdom

All 3 heads as individuals have metas of lurking as scum and tryharding as town.

[Prince of Renais]

Unsigned posts are Slaxx presumably? Will Gamma be signing?

~~~Dara~~~

Also this is like

Textbook wolfy pop in

[Prince of Renais]

Also

All of the Hydra heads have in some capacity been present in mafia related manners

Don't ask me to cite this please

[Prince of Renais]

Like I said already wisdom

All 3 heads as individuals have metas of lurking as scum and tryharding as town.

being in a hydra affects things
it could be as simple as not bothering to change accounts

>_>

[Prince of Renais]

They are content

But nothing in that iso is so scummy that it matches a triple Hydra of power town players with lurky scum metas not playing the game at all

[Prince of Renais]

blackjacks havent even bothered to come vote their counterwagon

i think its super clear its lack of interest for this game rather than lurking

No

[Prince of Renais]

Ftr Maria isn't actually in the hood but me and Dunn are neighbors and his recent posting has felt pretty damn town

[Prince of Renais]

He has twice the posts in hood as he has here

[Prince of Renais]

I'm not locking him as town but fmpov he is good enough to not be a today lynch. I think I should get that much.

Do you want me to paraphrase his posts

[Prince of Renais]

Ok lemme get to the computer

[Prince of Renais]

P1 me: Oh grateful to fuck we received scum role PMs. Hey we should take the life from MariaR night one because she's [various words for female promiscuity that would probably get me banned if I c/ped publicly]
P2 me: ok ok we can take the life from someone else instead.
P3 dunn: ok
p4 me: stop being mean to me
p5 dunn: reasonable
p6 me: explain the slaxx added+1tolynch?
p7 dunn: me has had vision of a lot of traitors in games recently and that has inklings of a very possible traitor softclaim
p8-p19 redacted because we're discussing something that shouldn't be public at this time but there's a lot of towny stuff there besides for
P12 me: so if you're town why is maria scumreading you?
P13 dunn: maria actually scumreads me all the time as town. she says in games frequently that she can read me but she hasn't pegged me as subversiveevilfaction in games such as dnd mafia and she misreads me as scum in games such as booneytoonz. i do not [particularly give a whole lot of fucks] if i get hungbytheneckuntildead if it will get mariar to stop spouting untruths about being able to read me.
P20 me: i am ruminating on how many different ways i can dayvig chara
P21 Dunn: i dont think that [incorrect pronoun] is a scum way of responding. especially the part where [incorrect pronoun again] calls you egotistical.
p22 me: oh i don't actually think they're scum this is just fun
p23 Dunn: acceptable
P24 me: agreeable
p25 dunn: yeah i also think that someone from blackjack would have posted by now if they were village and the only countervailingwagon is me so i'll sheep you
p26 me: i shall not lead you astray my fine gentlesir

[Prince of Renais]

it's harder to read with the paraphrasing

[Prince of Renais]

note there was a long time between p1 and p2 and i felt i was being ignored for my unkind comments at the expense of mrs. MariaR who i can confirm i do not actually harbor negative feelings toward

[Prince of Renais]

i don't agree and i will fight v hard to make sure that there is no dunn lynches leaving me with no neighbour friends

[Prince of Renais]

hey pink ball can you put some effort to figure out who i am and upon deducing such vote blackjacks with me?
this dunnstral wagon is absolutely scum forcing a counterwagon to a wagon on scum blackjacks

[Prince of Renais]

i think several prevailing townreads are wrong but given that i factually have a strongman vig to use tonight I don't need to lynch anyone harder and blackjacks is the easiest of the unholy trilogy.

[Prince of Renais]

like slacks is transparently scum. i don't know how people are getting that one wrong. but I'll handle it tonight. blackjacks is also scum not least because slaxx's interactions with such spew them scum.
wisdom who knows I think he's probably the third based on how hard he's counterwagoning scum blackjacks but could actually go either way. needs to die asap though.

[Prince of Renais]

yes one is precisely you.

[Prince of Renais]

dude. yes.

[Prince of Renais]

[Prince of Renais]

just lynch the scum blackjacks and no one gets hurt.

[Prince of Renais]

now for clarification

everyone has a 1-shot vig and a 1-shot bulletproof, right?

[Prince of Renais]

mine just happens to be strongman because i already had strongman recon as my role?

[Prince of Renais]

Oh I never actually read the role in question

[Prince of Renais]

Like the source. I kinda assumed that gif did something memey like give everyone guns and bulletproofs

[Prince of Renais]

So is everyone who got a scum role PM a miller?

[Prince of Renais]

What if we voted ELA?

[Prince of Renais]

Unsigned posts are Slaxx presumably? Will Gamma be signing?

~~~Dara~~~

Nah this is still too wolfy pop in s r y

[Prince of Renais]

Hmm

UNVOTE:

I've played my cards too early we gotta hit scum today ror sure so I can get two scum down at start of d2

[Prince of Renais]

Ya fuck it VOTE: blackjack

For the might of Renais!

[Prince of Renais]

Pink ball is scummy ish

[Prince of Renais]

VOTE: ELA

[Prince of Renais]

What happens if we do this

Most people agree this is scummy including yourself right slaxx

[Prince of Renais]

You've been calling Eevee scum all day phase

If you back out of voting Eevee I let town Lynch whoever then strongman vig you at night.

[Prince of Renais]

Eevee also has terrible interactions with the dayvig episode and presumably the Hydra will be replaced at some point.

[Prince of Renais]

I'm going for someone whose scumflip spews you town.

[Prince of Renais]

RCE maybe?

[Prince of Renais]

Dunno like there's valid reasons to oppose blackjack Lynch

Wisdom isn't wrong

I also don't want Dunn D1

I'm looking for someone else to wagon

Who else should I look at

[Prince of Renais]

I can read their replacement just fine

[Prince of Renais]

You don't? You should.

[Prince of Renais]

why pb / rce

[Prince of Renais]

Chara is a third party survivor

[Prince of Renais]

actual reads:

dunnstral:
dunnstral

me:
POR

towny
Enter

townish or trusting crowdsourced townreads
Chara
Shiro
Slaxx

Nulltown:
RCE
Vedith
Pink Ball

null
Wisdom
MariaR

scummy:
ELA
Blackjack

[Prince of Renais]

UNOFFICIAL VC

Dunnstral (5): Sigma Sapphire Slacks, Pink Ball, Vedith, Wisdom, Chara
Blackjacks (5): Prince of Renais, Enter, RCEnigma, Shiro, Dunnstral
Sigma Sapphire Slacks (1): Blackjacks
Enter (1): MariaR
Not Voting (1): EeveeLution Army

Just for everyone.

with that said, umm

lol

[Prince of Renais]

ELA still hasn't voted

[Prince of Renais]

i'm curious what exactly you think i should be townreading you for?

VOTE: BLackjack btw

[Prince of Renais]

i'm going to determine your alignment by whether your actions end up helping town or not and i'm going to lynch you if they don't.

[Prince of Renais]

hell, if blackjacks flips scum as the primary person attempting to counterwagon them you are probably not making it to tomorrow.

[Prince of Renais]

sea

[Prince of Renais]

i actually think that, balance of probabilities, ELA is town because... their scum games are scummier than this believe it or not.

[Prince of Renais]

double qualifier on that ELA townread doesn't make me or them scum. let's lynch Blackjack.

[Prince of Renais]

ELA is town, by the way.

@Chara it's really time to get over your scumread on me

[Prince of Renais]

eh

its not locktown

but its good enough to not want to lynch today

not when there's blackjack, and maybe RCE

[Prince of Renais]

chara if you let me cut dunn/ELA from your today lynch pool I'll let you decide the lynch between rce/blackjack

[Prince of Renais]

it was a great post

[Prince of Renais]

do you not like me, chara?

[Prince of Renais]

[Prince of Renais]

i'm not even sure what i'm doing in this game anymore.

[Prince of Renais]

i'm not really trying to make enemies i just joined a GIF game to meme and troll.

[Prince of Renais]

RCE was one of my biggest question marks this game and I believe I have found a meta tell that will determine his alignment with 100% accuracy.
I'm verifying it further because I'd feel really stupid if I came in declaring this sure of a read and was wrong. More to follow.

[Prince of Renais]

Holds over, like, an asston of games that I've read.

VOTE: RCENIGMA

[Prince of Renais]

I'm fine if we don't lynch them, I have a vig after all and I like bragging about my vig record.

[Prince of Renais]

Hey can y'all trust my 100% meta tell please thank you. I just remembered I care more about my D1 scum lynch rate than my vig rate.

[Prince of Renais]

no. the RCE must die.

[Prince of Renais]

Enter it's sheeping time.

[Prince of Renais]

ABC

Always Be lynchingrCe

[Prince of Renais]

it's not. pls render me assistance on murdering the RCE.

[Prince of Renais]

no.

there is only 1 lynch and that lynch is RCE.

[Prince of Renais]

i'm gonna b mad if you did.

[Prince of Renais]

because that is a pretty terrible way to use a daykill.

[Prince of Renais]

reverse desperado dies when she shoots if she's town and kills herself if she's scum

so it's basically a suicidal townie

[Prince of Renais]

guys is it possible for us to lynch RCE without me having to out my 100% tell so that I don't have to not have it anymore in future games

because, like, i like this thing and I don't want to not have it. but i also like lynching scum D1.

[Prince of Renais]

dunn you know sometimes you need to lose a friend to gain a friend, and the friend you gain is better than the one you lost

let me be that friend

[Prince of Renais]

Herokill: Chara

[Prince of Renais]

shiro can you do me a great service and vote the scum RCE

[Prince of Renais]

rce is a good vig shot

[Prince of Renais]

if you change it to RCE I'll take back the things I said and am saying about you in my hood with dunnstral

[Prince of Renais]

smart

[Prince of Renais]

but....

[Prince of Renais]

Would you let the girl fake her dayvigs >_>

[Prince of Renais]

We really need to lynch RCenigma

Please help me lynch them they are 100% scum

[Prince of Renais]

MariaR I want to protect you

But I can't unless you help me with RCE

[Prince of Renais]

I'm actually townreading you. Let's make something of this.

Please

[Prince of Renais]

Pretty damn sure MariaR

[Prince of Renais]

If you keep pushing this fake tell I'm taking it as a scumclaim Renais.

This is also an absurdly scummy response

Why is my tell fake as opposed to wrong, why is it a scumclaim in any universe, etc. Why did Shirt unvote

[Prince of Renais]

Your insistence that the tell is fabricated is hilariously scummy

Why can't I have a tell that I'm just wrong on?

Your reaction is defensive in a way that is super scummy

[Prince of Renais]

Note that I'm not wrong and the tell is good

I think you just realize that it's your or me given that living till night just gets you vigged and you might as well try to make it me.

[Prince of Renais]

I would prefer to lynch you so I can vig a spicier read

[Prince of Renais]

He just did the thing again lol

[Prince of Renais]

He's so far into his scum meta that it's hilarious

[Prince of Renais]

Here's the point I'm trying to make btw

How serious does pretty much anyone take it if someone says yo I have this 100% meta tell and it says your scum you die now

Especially me being some random

I don't think town RCenigma takes it all that seriously

Where as scum he's scared and wants to discredit it hence the fake yada yada yada yada.

[Prince of Renais]

Like I've fake dayvigged people and done tons of other random shit besides. Ignoring my meta tell which I stand by, why does he react like this as town? Why is he taking this seriously enough to call it fake?

[Prince of Renais]

Here's the point I'm trying to make btw

How serious does pretty much anyone take it if someone says yo I have this 100% meta tell and it says your scum you die now

Especially me being some random

I don't think town RCenigma takes it all that seriously

Where as scum he's scared and wants to discredit it hence the fake yada yada yada yada.

I'm literally turning into RC just with a shitty town game.

This is a v confusing poat

[Prince of Renais]

Still a v confusing post

[Prince of Renais]

That unvote sketches me out a lot.

[Prince of Renais]

That unvote sketches me out a lot.

Pretty sure Shiro is town.

I meant yours.

[Prince of Renais]

RcE is not town posting at all

[Prince of Renais]

And Maria seems like a lol she's Maria let's take the easy mislynch vote

[Prince of Renais]

(from shiro)

[Prince of Renais]

the tell exists. the scummy reaction to my outing the tell is just icing on the cake. the fact that wisdom has jumped ship to supporting my other preferred wagon to try to bait me off RCE is nagl.

[Prince of Renais]

vedith is town

[Prince of Renais]

that's not an rce vote

[Prince of Renais]

can someone explain 2 me why rce is lives

[Prince of Renais]

/me popcorn

[Prince of Renais]

:think:

[Prince of Renais]

hmmmmmmmmm

[Prince of Renais]

http://www.thonk.ca

[Prince of Renais]

whoa