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Yoooooo.
Something that maybe needs to be said: We are a 5-people hydra, and we don't plan on signing our actual usernames, and use magical girl code names instead, hopefully that won't be a problem. We're cool though, I promise. Also It's not exactly hard to find who the five of us are.
Anyway, I believe the only person I played with before is Chara, so, hello hello to people, this is Cure March. I'll leave the RVS to the other girls.
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@insomnia w0w that wasn't enough for you? I've shown you my transformation sequence... and everything. Rude
@Persival I feel like I would answer that differently if I wasn't in the hydra lmao
I dunno, I don't care about it
@Irrelephant We DID forget to mention that its a hydra... yeah man thats on us
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That seems to imply both JKs are town, no? thoughts?In post 2, funkybike1 wrote:Role PMs will be sent shortly. Night 0 begins now; Day 1 will begin after everyone has confirmed and night actions have been taken.
Since I'm sure at least one of you skimmed through the rules: There are two Jailkeepers.I suggest that the Town try and keep them alive.[/b]
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Well we need all the girls to show up for work firstIn post 29, insomnia wrote:
No, I wanted special effects as well as every head contributing on one post and reveal as a team or something. Make me your manager and I’ll get you a better director next time, we’ll be rich and make tons of moneyIn post 28, Smile wrote:@insomnia w0w that wasn't enough for you? I've shown you my transformation sequence... and everything. Rude
@Persival I feel like I would answer that differently if I wasn't in the hydra lmao
I dunno, I don't care about it
@Irrelephant We DID forget to mention that its a hydra... yeah man thats on us
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ewIn post 65, insomnia wrote:
You and tris better start proving it, even if you are town, claiming it doesn’t excuse you from game solving.In post 61, Fuscezu wrote:Hi Im town
not like he claims that and just poofs and never game solves
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In post 83, tris wrote:Also, skitter's response to the wagon is very scummy.
Hasn't skitter not posted yet? How is that scummy?
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Hey, hi, hello to everyone! Sorry for being late to the party, but in reality, this is no party without ME! Haha!
If we're going to talk about awkward entrances, this is the most awkward of them all! I love awkward people, they're funny! But this is no fun, this is scum!In post 76, Baezu wrote:
Persi!!!! Long time no seeIn post 60, Persivul wrote:
Everyone started that way...In post 57, ClearlyClarity wrote:And all of you seem to know each other. I feel left out
VOTE: Baezu
I'm glad to help y'all!
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Oh! Haha! I knew that, yeah! It was a joke, of course! Haha, funny right?In post 89, Persivul wrote:
You didn't help, as Baezu isn't actually in the player list.In post 88, Smile wrote:If we're going to talk about awkward entrances, this is the most awkward of them all! I love awkward people, they're funny! But this is no fun, this is scum!
VOTE: Baezu
I'm glad to help y'all!
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See? I got this! You can always trust in Sunny!In post 92, funkybike1 wrote:This is one of Fuscezu's heads.Fuscezu, please quote the post with the hydra account.
Smile's vote for Baezu counts for Fuscezu.
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I feel like if a new-ish player is a wolf then they would sound a little bit more tense than Clarity here? (yes pocket me harder)In post 94, ClearlyClarity wrote:three people: -comments on arbitrary scumminess of an innocent intro post-
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No point in answering the first question.In post 82, tris wrote:@Clarity Are you town? And, does anything from anyone stick out to you?
I like the Pretty Cure hydra. Y'all are neat.
idk her meta but she gains magical girl points from March
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i get you on insomniaIn post 101, Fuscezu wrote:#realtalk
insomnia seems too eager
irrel is playing a game I dont really like but cant call scum
percy is looking nulltown
Im tired of the sailor moon bit already
I wish clarity would have not mentioned how new they were. I get paranoid about small things.
it's almost fight-picky in a wolfy way
You'll have to deal with someone else for calling us sailor moon later
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I accidentally a wordIn post 236, Smile wrote:wow I don't find anything else except for this 1v1 between insomnia and percy recentlyinteresting
in which case,
(btw the way insomnia didn't immediately retaliate and instead voted in a second post loses magical girl points for him. I refer to 213 and 214)
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It feels like an afterthoughtIn post 248, skitter30 wrote:
i kinda think insomnia is town actuallyIn post 236, Smile wrote:wow I don't find anything else except for this 1v1 between insomnia and percy recently
in which case,
(btw the way insomnia didn't immediately retaliate and instead voted in a second post loses magical girl points for him. I refer to 213 and 214)
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why is he less townie for voting in the second post?
like "oh yeah I'd normally scumread the guy in a similar situation"
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Maybe I can word it better
214 feels like an afterthought like "I should be scumread Percy right now" instead of "I am scumreading Percy right now" because the sudden shift in tone from 213 to 214. 214 and after are much more aggressive. not just becuase 214 is a different post from 213.
41 is okay. I don't feel as strongly as you about it but its slightly positive. meh
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In post 289, insomnia wrote:Since my vote on Persivul isn't going anywhere and people don't hop on him for some reason, I'll do this
VOTE: Smile
5 headed hydra and you can't come up with a read and you are so neutral when it comes to giving reads. it feels off. you're like "insomnia is scum because of this, but i can see him being town" , "not feeling cj's posts", plenty of Iioa
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Buddy, my speech patterns that always make me sound less certain than I actually am aside, where is this "I can see insomnia being town" and Iioa from me?
Also dw it's pretty much been just me so far, but I want to give more initiative to Peace and Happy when they come in.
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Hey insomnia lemme try to understand your thoughts a little bit
What was your plan when you voted Percy? If I understand right you don't necessarily scumread Percy but you want to vote him for pressure? If so why Percy out of all the people here? Why not RCE for example? Cause I don't remember a single post from RCE and its probably not a good sign
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1. yeh i don't feel good about really requiring a compelling reason to vote somebody like 3 pages in. it's rvs who gives a shitIn post 343, skitter30 wrote:kinda weirded out by his reaction to irrel asking him to vote me
tone feels weird. (i know that 'feels weird' is not particularly helpful but i don't know why it does rn exactly)
find it kinda odd that i said that i found him gut-scummy earlier but he didn't follow up or try to engage me there at all
2. last line doesn't really do anything because people sometimes dont do anything if a push on them isn't threatening
i kinda can connect to your thoughts on a personal level though? like how sometimes you feel like you have a good read but find it difficult to explain it well
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@insomnia I think Percy may be looking for a footing into the game by testing you a little bit, since it seems like you two have experience tunneling into each other before
eh I still think tilt omgus voting is wolfy
there's no correlation between percy and rce, the way my brain works is very jumpy
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please consider March's vote being spiritually on insomnia thanks
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Lets talk about it tomorrowIn post 397, skitter30 wrote:march i kinda think that you lot might be scum
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I feel like scum would pause before going like "you should force content out of me with a legit wagon" like RCE does hereIn post 432, RCEnigma wrote:
Fair. I'm kind of out of sync with this game in particular. Couldn't tell you why and I hope it switches around day 2. At least I'll make an effort to improve my input.In post 370, skitter30 wrote:
it's kinda pressure i suppose; or at least a way to start a dialogue so that i can try to sort out if i'm right or wrong hereIn post 345, RCEnigma wrote:This isn't going to make much sense but I feel like we have similar thought process' in most cases. So sure you reading me scum was weird but it may be from a small sample size. I figured if you're town you would recognize me as town down the line.
Plus confronting you directly wouldn't give me the kind of read on you that I'm looking for. This doesn't seem like a pressure vote but I also don't consider myself as lhf so I still don't know what the play here is.
i was kinda expecting some sort of response to me saying taht i was scumreading you, even if it was just 'why' or something
i guess one of the things that feel a little off is that you feel kinda passive? more than i'd expect at least?
I don't necessarily have a read on you either way and a vote on me based on gut doesn't sway me either way, but I'd probably feel that way as either alignment.
The best way to get content out of me would probably be to force it with a legitimate wagon, preferrably before EOD so I don't get flashlynched without giving my thoughts.
I'm following along with the game so I know what's going on but don't have any strong feelings, I have reason to believe ceejay may be town, I still think CC is town and that's about it.
If the hill I die on is my Shiidaji read directly following rvs then I find it incredibly weak and a probable point for scum to sow doubt. No one's really asked but no I don't really have Shiidaji as town anymore following his absence. Scumreading him on an activity rep out feels dumb though.
Oh insomnia is probably town as well, he would be my Fringe read however.
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Uh now I think about it
Chara this game has a lot more initiative than the game I played with him, which is a year ago and he was roleplaying but still. Note initiative doesn't equate active, year old meta tells me scum Chara does things, but would rather do it under someones shadows.
probs not going to touch chara today
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Stagnant game state probably implies top wagons being villagers or somethingIn post 360, funkybike1 wrote:I've given enough of a grace period for prods. They start now; Shiidaji has been prodded.
Or it's just shiidaji and he can't post and his partners don't really bother defending there
either way I think its a good look for fus? idk
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ceejayvinoya
[line]Chara
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Miss Kobayashi Maru
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never touching strikethrough names d1
should probably lynch within bolded
underlined is shit thrown at the wall scum for post game ego
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So just kinda an update:
-Cure Peace has kinda said she is likely to sit out this game
-Cure Sunny is dealing with some RL stuff and while she isn't fully gone she is likely to continue to be inactive
-Cure Happy is still recovering from her academic work and I simply haven't heard from her in a few days and I honestly have no idea when she's coming back at this point
I will try to get a bit more caught up in this game soon, but I wanted to say in some ways I think it might be better to see this as more of a "kinda 2-headed hydra" in the short run and I want to really thank Cure March for holding it together while the rest of the players in our hydra are dealing with a bunch of RL stuff. Sorry that our slot has become kinda a mess as a result of all this.
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I want to vote tris but I planned to talk out my reads with Happy in the PT since I would feel better voting there if we had some consensus that skitter was town. Happy going MIA kinda messed me up tbh. I kinda like RCE and skitter both for town personally, and I didn't like tris's pushes on those slots, but don't want to override March's vote and push tris when I feel like March has been paying a lot more attention to the game. I have almost no read on CJ but wouldn't mind seeing the slot go so I don't really strongly disagree with March's vote but I'm not super into it either.
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Yeah this is one of the reads I wanted to discuss more in the PT, but personally I kinda liked the way he played RVS and his interactions with relly leaving RVS. Although he wasn't townreading you yet, I felt kinda on the same page as him around the 400s. He has been kinda quiet lately, but I still like him for town moreso than several other slots.In post 600, skitter30 wrote:beauty, why do you like rce?
If you were town I would expect you to play RVS in a way that generates more information and less wifom. Like that you seem to be kinda trying to totally write off your RVS vote is precisely why I don't like the way you played RVS. I know some people think RVS is useless or whatever but personally I think it's one of the most informative parts of the game.In post 601, tris wrote:If I was town would you expect me to pretend it wasn't a joke?
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In post 521, tris wrote:
Yeah, VOTE: RCEnigma I'll have a bit more to say in a moment.In post 520, skitter30 wrote: @tris can i interest you in joining the rce wagon?
I don't agree that 432 is weak, you say "I'll say more in a bit" but then your next post is all in response to pers and then you just accept you don't have more to say. There's a certain scum player that I have seen do a similar sort of thing when joining a wagon, I don't think you're an alt of them but it did strike me as the type of thing scum says when they join a wagon, realize they don't be able to write a townie-sounding case on the wagon they joined, and then decide that they won't get a lot of backlash for basically performing the art of saying nothing.In post 527, tris wrote:
Actually, I don't really have much more to say.In post 521, tris wrote:
Yeah, VOTE: RCEnigma I'll have a bit more to say in a moment.In post 520, skitter30 wrote: @tris can i interest you in joining the rce wagon?
Like again, town I think would want to generate more interesting discussion surrounding the vote, but you seem more interested in just kind of giving the impression that you're thinking of the game rather than actually thinking about the game or actively solving
I know I can't talk on that front having given this game almost no thought in the last week while I was out of town but that's where I'm at skimming things now
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somehow I missed this 0.oIn post 578, skitter30 wrote:i could vote tris too btw i think
nvm on that last q
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Absolutely correctIn post 700, skitter30 wrote:
oh right i really hated this post because it felt to me like they weren't reading and were asking questions just to ask them given that i talked about most of these things like five posts above this oneIn post 339, Smile wrote:Actually now I think about it I don't recall much about a lot of players
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Does RCE ping you somehow
Do you have thoughts on insomnia's spew about his own meta and all that
Reads on Clarity
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That ain't how to read me though. I know it's unfair for people that don't know who I am but yeah that's most people. That's just me having enough wim to try to look like im being productive in order to not drag my team back but not enough wim (or time) to actually put in more effort than simply using intuition. I was hoping to get carried by my hydra uwu
anyway um
i'm gonna actually read things and dump everything into the PT or something today. v/la til Tuesday
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Oh yeah. Lynch insomnia.
I lowkey don't believe in casing somebody because any post can be interpreted towny or scummy, so analysis on quotes with no context is worthless. Tone and mechanical solves are more of my forte.
Anyhow.
Note that insomnia doesn't actually talk about how he views a lot of the players. Even something like, "I have no thoughts on [x]", it shows that the person is trying to look at all players simutaneously, more of a "circle to dot" approach, I guess. This is more likely to come from town who have little to no information about the players
Instead what insomnia does this game is, 1. "We should vote Smile/Percival, and here is why" 2. "Hey who can read [x]" (564, 669)
This is more of less a "dot to circle" approach. His sights are aimed at certain players with the goals of lynching them, without looking at other players, which is like I said, the opposite of a town approach.
fwiw
I kinda don't like Percy's posting either. They just blend in, a lot. Usually not a good sign, but maybe it will be easier to read Percy after insomnia flips or something
Back to insomnia, these posts stood out during my ISO reread
In post 142, insomnia wrote:Skitter will you pocket me again, or do you only do that as scum? :pIn post 288, insomnia wrote:Skitter is low-key pocketing me again, I don't know how to feel about it given our past game.
The first two posts actually showed quite a healthy dose of paranoia about his skitter town readIn post 299, insomnia wrote:[~]
Skitter is an auto town read for me until I get fucked by the flip. To respond to the bolded, when skitter confronted you, you said you're pretty good at town reading her, and having her at a null is weird to me, with the plan and everything.
As for the hydra, I'll point the posts that I don't like and maybe they can defended themselves / explain their reads because they're scattered as hell
a mere 3 hours after the 2nd post, now "Skitter is an auto town read". That paranoia never really existed, did it? I think this is just putting on a show.
Theres also when he was pushed by Percy for, idek what but it doesnt really matter
There's an overreaction in tone after the push, from seemingly chilling to .. whatever this is. which is scummy
In post 214, insomnia wrote:It feels rather shallow to vote based on such a weak push. Did you even read my other posts or you saw something that you could've easily jumped on?
You put words in my mouth in the beginning and now are pushing me based on not paying attention.
VOTE: Persivul
Bring it dude, you picked the wrong tunnel
His votes are also pretty much just onto whoever pushes him first btw. Please take a look at the behaviours and decide whether or not that come from a town mindset, specifically a mindset that screams "searching for scum"
This needed to be done ages ago but I didnt want to move Sunny's vote for whatever the fuck reason
VOTE: insomnia
Beauty's alright with this right here i think but she probably scumreads tris more.
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Let me just add these pointless-but-trying-to-look-like-hes-doing-shit posts
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You and tris better start proving it, even if you are town, claiming it doesn’t excuse you from game solving.In post 61, Fuscezu wrote:Hi Im town
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I am taking control of our vote~~~
VOTE: Fuscezu
I've poked March about the insomnia vote. I don't hate it but I don't think we have time left in the day to get a wagon there tbh. We also talked about tris, and March saw one post that she thought was maybe townie, I disagree about that post being townie but I don't think my scumread there is strong enough to make it worth fighting about. One thing I thought was interesting though was that tris/fuscezu came up, since March pointed out that a lot of her reads are kinda vague except for Fusc. Tris started out with a scumread on Fusc and then maintained a townread. March is kinda ok with that development but I again disagree.
If Fusc flipped scum, I think it would be worth revisiting tris. But for now my bigger problem is with Fusc. I was fine with our vote on Fusc for most of the day and honestly didn't fully understand why March moved us off. Going back to reread that slot now I kinda don't understand how tris sees town there and I feel like fusco has played in a way that reminds me very much of someone like scum!skygazer where he tries to be cool and emphasize his own activity even though he's not doing much. 'im reading' 'im still reading' etc. Also notice a noncommittal read here on tris, which reinforces my thought that tris/fusc could be s/s, with fusc avoiding a read and tris trying for early distancing and then a townread.
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I've been thinking about skitter's argument on CC, and to be honest CC is a slot that has been very much under the radar for me. Despite having 50+ posts I feel like the slot has had very little presence. On going back through the iso 674 jumps out at me -- while I appreciate the townread, the more important thing to me is skitter scum along with fusc and cj. CJ is null to me but could be scum, fusc I think is scum, and skitter is someone I can see CC being paranoid about as town. So this would not be my first preference for today. That being said, I feel like CC did not push Fuscezu very hard after voting that slot, so there's some risk of that being scum distancing. I'd vote there if I have to to avoid my own mislynch but I'd much prefer Fusc, and if not Fusc then tris.
Bottom line is I think fusc is the best day 1 for us.
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I mean, we have a lot of vanity votes on solo wagons right now. At some point people have to start being willing to work together. If you want tris to go through today you should push that but I don't see that happening right now. I'm not really in love with your CC wagon. You seem to townread Fusc but if I remember right you basically said "I can't explain why" one of the last times you were asked about it. Maybe you explained somewhere else that I missed. So what's bad other on fusc than your gut townread on the slot?
So if you want to lead on tris then go for it, and yeah my vote can be seen as survivalistic because I don't really see a point of starting a new wagon at a point when there's so much apathy in the game that half the player list is barely posting at all.
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Maybe it's because a lot of what you said in RVS wasn't very funny and can be read as light reads rather than jokes. I look back at your reads over the trajectory of the day and some of your read developments particularly coming out of RVS just look fake. Look at your joke and give me one reason not to see it as weak distancing? OK sure, you can say, 'haha that read was a joke' but there's basically no difference between one of your jokes and someone else giving a basic gut reaction. Except that in each case your later reads on your "joke reads" ends up being townreads.
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