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Post Post #12 (isolation #0) » Wed May 08, 2019 5:22 am

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Yoooooo.
Something that maybe needs to be said: We are a 5-people hydra, and we don't plan on signing our actual usernames, and use magical girl code names instead, hopefully that won't be a problem. We're cool though, I promise. Also It's not exactly hard to find who the five of us are.

Anyway, I believe the only person I played with before is Chara, so, hello hello to people, this is Cure March. I'll leave the RVS to the other girls.

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Post Post #28 (isolation #1) » Wed May 08, 2019 5:45 am

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@insomnia w0w that wasn't enough for you? I've shown you my transformation sequence... and everything. Rude

@Persival I feel like I would answer that differently if I wasn't in the hydra lmao
I dunno, I don't care about it

@Irrelephant We DID forget to mention that its a hydra... yeah man thats on us

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Post Post #30 (isolation #2) » Wed May 08, 2019 5:47 am

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In post 2, funkybike1 wrote:
Role PMs will be sent shortly. Night 0 begins now; Day 1 will begin after everyone has confirmed and night actions have been taken.

Since I'm sure at least one of you skimmed through the rules: There are two Jailkeepers.
I suggest that the Town try and keep them alive.
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That seems to imply both JKs are town, no? thoughts?

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Post Post #31 (isolation #3) » Wed May 08, 2019 5:49 am

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In post 29, insomnia wrote:
In post 28, Smile wrote:@insomnia w0w that wasn't enough for you? I've shown you my transformation sequence... and everything. Rude

@Persival I feel like I would answer that differently if I wasn't in the hydra lmao
I dunno, I don't care about it

@Irrelephant We DID forget to mention that its a hydra... yeah man thats on us

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Post Post #72 (isolation #4) » Wed May 08, 2019 8:37 am

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In post 65, insomnia wrote:
In post 61, Fuscezu wrote:Hi Im town
You and tris better start proving it, even if you are town, claiming it doesn’t excuse you from game solving.
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not like he claims that and just poofs and never game solves

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Post Post #73 (isolation #5) » Wed May 08, 2019 8:41 am

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Eh.
I like Fuscezu's entrance better than Clarity's

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Post Post #84 (isolation #6) » Wed May 08, 2019 10:55 am

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In post 83, tris wrote:Also, skitter's response to the wagon is very scummy.


Hasn't skitter not posted yet? How is that scummy?

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Post Post #86 (isolation #7) » Wed May 08, 2019 11:20 am

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Beauty I think that signature attack video is for hammers

Tris please tell me you're meming

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Post Post #88 (isolation #8) » Wed May 08, 2019 11:33 am

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Hey, hi, hello to everyone! Sorry for being late to the party, but in reality, this is no party without ME! Haha!
In post 76, Baezu wrote:
In post 60, Persivul wrote:
In post 57, ClearlyClarity wrote:And all of you seem to know each other. I feel left out :(
Everyone started that way...
Persi!!!! Long time no see
If we're going to talk about awkward entrances, this is the most awkward of them all! I love awkward people, they're funny! But this is no fun, this is scum!

VOTE: Baezu

I'm glad to help y'all!

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Post Post #91 (isolation #9) » Wed May 08, 2019 11:40 am

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In post 89, Persivul wrote:
In post 88, Smile wrote:If we're going to talk about awkward entrances, this is the most awkward of them all! I love awkward people, they're funny! But this is no fun, this is scum!

VOTE: Baezu

I'm glad to help y'all!
You didn't help, as Baezu isn't actually in the player list.
Oh! Haha! I knew that, yeah! It was a joke, of course! Haha, funny right?

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Post Post #93 (isolation #10) » Wed May 08, 2019 11:57 am

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In post 92, funkybike1 wrote:
This is one of Fuscezu's heads.
Fuscezu, please quote the post with the hydra account.
Smile's vote for Baezu counts for Fuscezu.
See? I got this! You can always trust in Sunny!

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Post Post #166 (isolation #11) » Wed May 08, 2019 6:06 pm

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Pikapika pikarin jan ken pon! Cure Peace's here!

On a side node, 7 pages in 13 hours? I'll reread again, and nice to meet you all as I never played with you all.

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Post Post #229 (isolation #12) » Thu May 09, 2019 9:34 am

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Hellooo I'm here and this is completely unrelated but I just became a corporate slave wooooohoooo

catching up

btw Cure Happy's busy lately but she'll show up.

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Post Post #230 (isolation #13) » Thu May 09, 2019 9:38 am

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In post 94, ClearlyClarity wrote:three people: -comments on arbitrary scumminess of an innocent intro post-
me: -old man shrug meme-
In post 82, tris wrote:@Clarity Are you town? And, does anything from anyone stick out to you?
No point in answering the first question. :D

I like the Pretty Cure hydra. Y'all are neat.
I feel like if a new-ish player is a wolf then they would sound a little bit more tense than Clarity here? (yes pocket me harder)
idk her meta but she gains magical girl points from March

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Post Post #234 (isolation #14) » Thu May 09, 2019 9:47 am

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Yeah man I'm not feeling CJ's posts

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@Clarity Meh I've seen Mafia have roles they normally don't get to be mindfucky in terms of set up spec. Not like mafia JK isn't common anyway
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Post Post #235 (isolation #15) » Thu May 09, 2019 9:49 am

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In post 101, Fuscezu wrote:#realtalk

insomnia seems too eager
irrel is playing a game I dont really like but cant call scum
percy is looking nulltown
Im tired of the sailor moon bit already
I wish clarity would have not mentioned how new they were. I get paranoid about small things.
i get you on insomnia
it's almost fight-picky in a wolfy way

You'll have to deal with someone else for calling us sailor moon later
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Post Post #236 (isolation #16) » Thu May 09, 2019 10:01 am

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wow I don't find anything else except for this 1v1 between insomnia and percy recently

in which case, :popcorn:

(btw the way insomnia didn't immediately retaliate and instead voted in a second post loses magical girl points for him. I refer to 213 and 214)

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Post Post #237 (isolation #17) » Thu May 09, 2019 10:01 am

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In post 236, Smile wrote:wow I don't find anything else except for this 1v1 between insomnia and percy recently
interesting


in which case, :popcorn:

(btw the way insomnia didn't immediately retaliate and instead voted in a second post loses magical girl points for him. I refer to 213 and 214)

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Post Post #249 (isolation #18) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:24 pm

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In post 248, skitter30 wrote:
In post 236, Smile wrote:wow I don't find anything else except for this 1v1 between insomnia and percy recently

in which case, :popcorn:

(btw the way insomnia didn't immediately retaliate and instead voted in a second post loses magical girl points for him. I refer to 213 and 214)

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i kinda think insomnia is town actually
why is he less townie for voting in the second post?
It feels like an afterthought
like "oh yeah I'd normally scumread the guy in a similar situation"

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Post Post #250 (isolation #19) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:25 pm

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Enlighten me on the insomnia read though?

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Post Post #253 (isolation #20) » Thu May 09, 2019 1:03 pm

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Maybe I can word it better

214 feels like an afterthought like "I should be scumread Percy right now" instead of "I am scumreading Percy right now" because the sudden shift in tone from 213 to 214. 214 and after are much more aggressive. not just becuase 214 is a different post from 213.

41 is okay. I don't feel as strongly as you about it but its slightly positive. meh

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Post Post #311 (isolation #21) » Fri May 10, 2019 10:36 am

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In post 289, insomnia wrote:Since my vote on Persivul isn't going anywhere and people don't hop on him for some reason, I'll do this

VOTE: Smile

5 headed hydra and you can't come up with a read and you are so neutral when it comes to giving reads. it feels off. you're like "insomnia is scum because of this, but i can see him being town" , "not feeling cj's posts", plenty of Iioa

>_>

Buddy, my speech patterns that always make me sound less certain than I actually am aside, where is this "I can see insomnia being town" and Iioa from me?

Also dw it's pretty much been just me so far, but I want to give more initiative to Peace and Happy when they come in.

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Post Post #312 (isolation #22) » Fri May 10, 2019 10:38 am

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Anyway lemme make it clear. If I were to choose someone to lynch rn it's insomnia, then CJ.
It's not my fault you misinterpret how I say things and/or manipulated it to make it seem like theres no reads from us or whatever

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Post Post #338 (isolation #23) » Sun May 12, 2019 9:06 am

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Hey insomnia lemme try to understand your thoughts a little bit

What was your plan when you voted Percy? If I understand right you don't necessarily scumread Percy but you want to vote him for pressure? If so why Percy out of all the people here? Why not RCE for example? Cause I don't remember a single post from RCE and its probably not a good sign

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Post Post #339 (isolation #24) » Sun May 12, 2019 9:12 am

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Actually now I think about it I don't recall much about a lot of players

um

Skitter
Does RCE ping you somehow
Do you have thoughts on insomnia's spew about his own meta and all that
Reads on Clarity

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Post Post #341 (isolation #25) » Sun May 12, 2019 10:12 am

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You know I somehow thought it was irrelephant who said those things =.=

anyhow I call these questions yelling at people until they spew their alignment *shrug*

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Post Post #342 (isolation #26) » Sun May 12, 2019 10:13 am

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Except for that RCE part, I'm curious what exactly is pinging you if you can pinpoint it
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Post Post #358 (isolation #27) » Mon May 13, 2019 11:02 am

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Why has Baezu not been replaced yet?

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Post Post #367 (isolation #28) » Mon May 13, 2019 1:33 pm

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In post 343, skitter30 wrote:kinda weirded out by his reaction to irrel asking him to vote me
tone feels weird. (i know that 'feels weird' is not particularly helpful but i don't know why it does rn exactly)
find it kinda odd that i said that i found him gut-scummy earlier but he didn't follow up or try to engage me there at all
1. yeh i don't feel good about really requiring a compelling reason to vote somebody like 3 pages in. it's rvs who gives a shit
2. last line doesn't really do anything because people sometimes dont do anything if a push on them isn't threatening

i kinda can connect to your thoughts on a personal level though? like how sometimes you feel like you have a good read but find it difficult to explain it well
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@insomnia I think Percy may be looking for a footing into the game by testing you a little bit, since it seems like you two have experience tunneling into each other before
eh I still think tilt omgus voting is wolfy

there's no correlation between percy and rce, the way my brain works is very jumpy
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please consider March's vote being spiritually on insomnia thanks

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Post Post #368 (isolation #29) » Mon May 13, 2019 1:44 pm

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Yeah I realized after 0.o

But only one head has been posting right? I know our hydra is probably confusing but I'm having a hard time telling which of the two Fusc heads are posting when without signing

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Post Post #381 (isolation #30) » Mon May 13, 2019 3:06 pm

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80% of posts are from me so far

@skitter thats about your read on whoever the heck it was
uh right rce

someone please translate lhf for the uninitiated :<

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Post Post #387 (isolation #31) » Mon May 13, 2019 3:12 pm

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eh. i think thats just idgaf indicative calling himself lhf from fus pretty sure

i mean what does fus need defending from really

the votes sprung from a hot take

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Post Post #388 (isolation #32) » Mon May 13, 2019 3:13 pm

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the real hot take is I actually like irrelephant a lot for throw out a random ass hot take

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Post Post #389 (isolation #33) » Mon May 13, 2019 3:15 pm

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I also need to know what Clarity is seeing from fus being scum

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Post Post #391 (isolation #34) » Mon May 13, 2019 3:15 pm

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idk

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Post Post #394 (isolation #35) » Mon May 13, 2019 3:21 pm

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If I can put it into words

I guess I don't see the scum motivation for randomly saying this dude is scum and unnecessarily make enemies
because he sure aint doing anything with the hot take

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Post Post #396 (isolation #36) » Mon May 13, 2019 3:31 pm

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Image

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not really

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Post Post #400 (isolation #37) » Mon May 13, 2019 3:41 pm

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In post 397, skitter30 wrote:march i kinda think that you lot might be scum
Lets talk about it tomorrow

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Post Post #403 (isolation #38) » Mon May 13, 2019 3:45 pm

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Irl tmr

Im going to bed.

Do speak with the other four though if they show up!
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Post Post #504 (isolation #39) » Tue May 14, 2019 1:34 pm

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skitter are you here

I'm gonna try to get some work done here and you can talk about anything you want to me in the mean time idk

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Post Post #505 (isolation #40) » Tue May 14, 2019 1:43 pm

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Percy why did you drop your push on insomnia, when we could have gotten something going
especially when the new vote is shiidaji which fundamentally does nothing

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Post Post #506 (isolation #41) » Tue May 14, 2019 1:47 pm

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In post 432, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 370, skitter30 wrote:
In post 345, RCEnigma wrote:This isn't going to make much sense but I feel like we have similar thought process' in most cases. So sure you reading me scum was weird but it may be from a small sample size. I figured if you're town you would recognize me as town down the line.

Plus confronting you directly wouldn't give me the kind of read on you that I'm looking for. This doesn't seem like a pressure vote but I also don't consider myself as lhf so I still don't know what the play here is.
it's kinda pressure i suppose; or at least a way to start a dialogue so that i can try to sort out if i'm right or wrong here
i was kinda expecting some sort of response to me saying taht i was scumreading you, even if it was just 'why' or something

i guess one of the things that feel a little off is that you feel kinda passive? more than i'd expect at least?
Fair. I'm kind of out of sync with this game in particular. Couldn't tell you why and I hope it switches around day 2. At least I'll make an effort to improve my input.

I don't necessarily have a read on you either way and a vote on me based on gut doesn't sway me either way, but I'd probably feel that way as either alignment.

The best way to get content out of me would probably be to force it with a legitimate wagon, preferrably before EOD so I don't get flashlynched without giving my thoughts.

I'm following along with the game so I know what's going on but don't have any strong feelings, I have reason to believe ceejay may be town, I still think CC is town and that's about it.

If the hill I die on is my Shiidaji read directly following rvs then I find it incredibly weak and a probable point for scum to sow doubt. No one's really asked but no I don't really have Shiidaji as town anymore following his absence. Scumreading him on an activity rep out feels dumb though.

Oh insomnia is probably town as well, he would be my Fringe read however.
I feel like scum would pause before going like "you should force content out of me with a legit wagon" like RCE does here

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Post Post #507 (isolation #42) » Tue May 14, 2019 1:55 pm

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Uh now I think about it

Chara this game has a lot more initiative than the game I played with him, which is a year ago and he was roleplaying but still. Note initiative doesn't equate active, year old meta tells me scum Chara does things, but would rather do it under someones shadows.
probs not going to touch chara today

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Post Post #508 (isolation #43) » Tue May 14, 2019 2:03 pm

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In post 360, funkybike1 wrote:
I've given enough of a grace period for prods. They start now; Shiidaji has been prodded.


VOTE COUNT
7 of 13 votes are required to lynch.
Shiidaji (4):
Chara, tris, Irrelephant11, Persivul
Fuscezu (3):
Smile, Miss Kobayashi Maru, ceejayvinoya
Irrelephant11 (2):
Shiidaji, RCEnigma
Miss Kobayashi Maru (1):
ClearlyClarity
insomnia (1):
insomnia
RCEnigma (1):
skitter30
Not Voting (1):
Fuscezu
Deadline is in (expired on 2019-05-22 12:00:00)

Stagnant game state probably implies top wagons being villagers or something
Or it's just shiidaji and he can't post and his partners don't really bother defending there

either way I think its a good look for fus? idk

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Post Post #510 (isolation #44) » Tue May 14, 2019 2:10 pm

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ceejayvinoya

[line]Chara
ClearlyClarity
Fuscezu[/line]
insomnia

[line]Irrelephant11[/line]
Miss Kobayashi Maru
Persivul
RCEnigma
Shiidaji
skitter30

[line]Smile[/line]
tris


never touching strikethrough names d1
should probably lynch within bolded
underlined is shit thrown at the wall scum for post game ego

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Post Post #512 (isolation #45) » Tue May 14, 2019 2:17 pm

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VOTE: CJ

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Post Post #589 (isolation #46) » Wed May 15, 2019 1:43 pm

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So just kinda an update:
-Cure Peace has kinda said she is likely to sit out this game
-Cure Sunny is dealing with some RL stuff and while she isn't fully gone she is likely to continue to be inactive
-Cure Happy is still recovering from her academic work and I simply haven't heard from her in a few days and I honestly have no idea when she's coming back at this point

I will try to get a bit more caught up in this game soon, but I wanted to say in some ways I think it might be better to see this as more of a "kinda 2-headed hydra" in the short run and I want to really thank Cure March for holding it together while the rest of the players in our hydra are dealing with a bunch of RL stuff. Sorry that our slot has become kinda a mess as a result of all this.

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Post Post #592 (isolation #47) » Wed May 15, 2019 1:58 pm

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I want to vote tris but I planned to talk out my reads with Happy in the PT since I would feel better voting there if we had some consensus that skitter was town. Happy going MIA kinda messed me up tbh. I kinda like RCE and skitter both for town personally, and I didn't like tris's pushes on those slots, but don't want to override March's vote and push tris when I feel like March has been paying a lot more attention to the game. I have almost no read on CJ but wouldn't mind seeing the slot go so I don't really strongly disagree with March's vote but I'm not super into it either.

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Post Post #595 (isolation #48) » Wed May 15, 2019 2:14 pm

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I know was a while ago but it still stuck out to me at the time.

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Post Post #597 (isolation #49) » Wed May 15, 2019 2:19 pm

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I think scum often makes an effort to be funny in RVS so yeah, kinda. Do you think you should be townread for the joke?

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Post Post #599 (isolation #50) » Wed May 15, 2019 2:28 pm

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It's more the absence of towniness while not quite being a lurker in combination with having multiple votes on people I townread throughout the game, not the joke in and of itself. But I do think playing off an RVS vote as a joke is slightly more likely to come from scum than town, yeah.

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Post Post #603 (isolation #51) » Wed May 15, 2019 2:46 pm

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In post 600, skitter30 wrote:beauty, why do you like rce?
Yeah this is one of the reads I wanted to discuss more in the PT, but personally I kinda liked the way he played RVS and his interactions with relly leaving RVS. Although he wasn't townreading you yet, I felt kinda on the same page as him around the 400s. He has been kinda quiet lately, but I still like him for town moreso than several other slots.
In post 601, tris wrote:If I was town would you expect me to pretend it wasn't a joke?
If you were town I would expect you to play RVS in a way that generates more information and less wifom. Like that you seem to be kinda trying to totally write off your RVS vote is precisely why I don't like the way you played RVS. I know some people think RVS is useless or whatever but personally I think it's one of the most informative parts of the game.

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Post Post #605 (isolation #52) » Wed May 15, 2019 3:03 pm

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In post 516, tris wrote: is a post that felt rather weak to me.
In post 521, tris wrote:
In post 520, skitter30 wrote: @tris can i interest you in joining the rce wagon?
Yeah, VOTE: RCEnigma I'll have a bit more to say in a moment.
In post 527, tris wrote:
In post 521, tris wrote:
In post 520, skitter30 wrote: @tris can i interest you in joining the rce wagon?
Yeah, VOTE: RCEnigma I'll have a bit more to say in a moment.
Actually, I don't really have much more to say.
I don't agree that 432 is weak, you say "I'll say more in a bit" but then your next post is all in response to pers and then you just accept you don't have more to say. There's a certain scum player that I have seen do a similar sort of thing when joining a wagon, I don't think you're an alt of them but it did strike me as the type of thing scum says when they join a wagon, realize they don't be able to write a townie-sounding case on the wagon they joined, and then decide that they won't get a lot of backlash for basically performing the art of saying nothing.

Like again, town I think would want to generate more interesting discussion surrounding the vote, but you seem more interested in just kind of giving the impression that you're thinking of the game rather than actually thinking about the game or actively solving

I know I can't talk on that front having given this game almost no thought in the last week while I was out of town but that's where I'm at skimming things now

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Post Post #606 (isolation #53) » Wed May 15, 2019 3:03 pm

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skitter are you tring tris?

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Post Post #607 (isolation #54) » Wed May 15, 2019 3:04 pm

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In post 578, skitter30 wrote:i could vote tris too btw i think
somehow I missed this 0.o

nvm on that last q

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Post Post #803 (isolation #55) » Fri May 17, 2019 2:29 pm

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In post 700, skitter30 wrote:
In post 339, Smile wrote:Actually now I think about it I don't recall much about a lot of players

um

Skitter
Does RCE ping you somehow
Do you have thoughts on insomnia's spew about his own meta and all that
Reads on Clarity

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oh right i really hated this post because it felt to me like they weren't reading and were asking questions just to ask them given that i talked about most of these things like five posts above this one
Absolutely correct

That ain't how to read me though. I know it's unfair for people that don't know who I am but yeah that's most people. That's just me having enough wim to try to look like im being productive in order to not drag my team back but not enough wim (or time) to actually put in more effort than simply using intuition. I was hoping to get carried by my hydra uwu

anyway um
i'm gonna actually read things and dump everything into the PT or something today. v/la til Tuesday

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Post Post #806 (isolation #56) » Fri May 17, 2019 3:10 pm

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Oh yeah. Lynch insomnia.

I lowkey don't believe in casing somebody because any post can be interpreted towny or scummy, so analysis on quotes with no context is worthless. Tone and mechanical solves are more of my forte.

Anyhow.

Note that insomnia doesn't actually talk about how he views a lot of the players. Even something like, "I have no thoughts on [x]", it shows that the person is trying to look at all players simutaneously, more of a "circle to dot" approach, I guess. This is more likely to come from town who have little to no information about the players
Instead what insomnia does this game is, 1. "We should vote Smile/Percival, and here is why" 2. "Hey who can read [x]" (564, 669)
This is more of less a "dot to circle" approach. His sights are aimed at certain players with the goals of lynching them, without looking at other players, which is like I said, the opposite of a town approach.

fwiw
I kinda don't like Percy's posting either. They just blend in, a lot. Usually not a good sign, but maybe it will be easier to read Percy after insomnia flips or something

Back to insomnia, these posts stood out during my ISO reread
In post 142, insomnia wrote:Skitter will you pocket me again, or do you only do that as scum? :p
In post 288, insomnia wrote:Skitter is low-key pocketing me again, I don't know how to feel about it given our past game.
In post 299, insomnia wrote:[~]

Skitter is an auto town read for me until I get fucked by the flip. To respond to the bolded, when skitter confronted you, you said you're pretty good at town reading her, and having her at a null is weird to me, with the plan and everything.

As for the hydra, I'll point the posts that I don't like and maybe they can defended themselves / explain their reads because they're scattered as hell
The first two posts actually showed quite a healthy dose of paranoia about his skitter town read
a mere 3 hours after the 2nd post, now "Skitter is an auto town read". That paranoia never really existed, did it? I think this is just putting on a show.


Theres also when he was pushed by Percy for, idek what but it doesnt really matter
There's an overreaction in tone after the push, from seemingly chilling to .. whatever this is. which is scummy
In post 214, insomnia wrote:It feels rather shallow to vote based on such a weak push. Did you even read my other posts or you saw something that you could've easily jumped on?

You put words in my mouth in the beginning and now are pushing me based on not paying attention.

VOTE: Persivul

Bring it dude, you picked the wrong tunnel

His votes are also pretty much just onto whoever pushes him first btw. Please take a look at the behaviours and decide whether or not that come from a town mindset, specifically a mindset that screams "searching for scum"


This needed to be done ages ago but I didnt want to move Sunny's vote for whatever the fuck reason

VOTE: insomnia
Beauty's alright with this right here i think but she probably scumreads tris more.

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Post Post #807 (isolation #57) » Fri May 17, 2019 3:22 pm

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Let me just add these pointless-but-trying-to-look-like-hes-doing-shit posts
In post 65, insomnia wrote:
In post 61, Fuscezu wrote:Hi Im town
You and tris better start proving it, even if you are town, claiming it doesn’t excuse you from game solving.
In post 769, insomnia wrote:Well, you should get into detail with every single one of them, but the point was that if a person’s accusing someone that’s not a consensus and without explaining the scum read in any way, it’s likely people will just ignore you or you even light end up suspicious for pushing that person if you don’t have a case.
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Post Post #911 (isolation #58) » Mon May 20, 2019 1:28 pm

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VOTE: Fuscezu

I've poked March about the insomnia vote. I don't hate it but I don't think we have time left in the day to get a wagon there tbh. We also talked about tris, and March saw one post that she thought was maybe townie, I disagree about that post being townie but I don't think my scumread there is strong enough to make it worth fighting about. One thing I thought was interesting though was that tris/fuscezu came up, since March pointed out that a lot of her reads are kinda vague except for Fusc. Tris started out with a scumread on Fusc and then maintained a townread. March is kinda ok with that development but I again disagree.

If Fusc flipped scum, I think it would be worth revisiting tris. But for now my bigger problem is with Fusc. I was fine with our vote on Fusc for most of the day and honestly didn't fully understand why March moved us off. Going back to reread that slot now I kinda don't understand how tris sees town there and I feel like fusco has played in a way that reminds me very much of someone like scum!skygazer where he tries to be cool and emphasize his own activity even though he's not doing much. 'im reading' 'im still reading' etc. Also notice a noncommittal read here on tris, which reinforces my thought that tris/fusc could be s/s, with fusc avoiding a read and tris trying for early distancing and then a townread.

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(March didn't want me to mention this but there's also the fact that I think Brown Eyes, when town, has the strongest day 1 reads of people I know, even when she's only paying about 20% attention to the game. Every other time I've played with her I've scumread her incorrectly for lack of presence and while her not doing much doesn't make her conftown, I feel like her reads in this sort of game state are more likely to be stronger than my own, or for that matter, March's. <3 u March)


I've been thinking about skitter's argument on CC, and to be honest CC is a slot that has been very much under the radar for me. Despite having 50+ posts I feel like the slot has had very little presence. On going back through the iso jumps out at me -- while I appreciate the townread, the more important thing to me is skitter scum along with fusc and cj. CJ is null to me but could be scum, fusc I think is scum, and skitter is someone I can see CC being paranoid about as town. So this would not be my first preference for today. That being said, I feel like CC did not push Fuscezu very hard after voting that slot, so there's some risk of that being scum distancing. I'd vote there if I have to to avoid my own mislynch but I'd much prefer Fusc, and if not Fusc then tris.

Bottom line is I think fusc is the best day 1 for us.

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Post Post #914 (isolation #59) » Mon May 20, 2019 3:49 pm

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I mean, we have a lot of vanity votes on solo wagons right now. At some point people have to start being willing to work together. If you want tris to go through today you should push that but I don't see that happening right now. I'm not really in love with your CC wagon. You seem to townread Fusc but if I remember right you basically said "I can't explain why" one of the last times you were asked about it. Maybe you explained somewhere else that I missed. So what's bad other on fusc than your gut townread on the slot?

So if you want to lead on tris then go for it, and yeah my vote can be seen as survivalistic because I don't really see a point of starting a new wagon at a point when there's so much apathy in the game that half the player list is barely posting at all.

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Post Post #918 (isolation #60) » Mon May 20, 2019 5:42 pm

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Maybe it's because a lot of what you said in RVS wasn't very funny and can be read as light reads rather than jokes. I look back at your reads over the trajectory of the day and some of your read developments particularly coming out of RVS just look fake. Look at your joke and give me one reason not to see it as weak distancing? OK sure, you can say, 'haha that read was a joke' but there's basically no difference between one of your jokes and someone else giving a basic gut reaction. Except that in each case your later reads on your "joke reads" ends up being townreads.

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Post Post #922 (isolation #61) » Mon May 20, 2019 5:51 pm

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The issue for me is more that your RVS has a lot of joke reads, which says to me that you weren't really trying to sort people but were just playing politically instead.

I feel like you're trying to goad me back into voting you right now though which is weird.

Maybe you're not groupscum?

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Post Post #924 (isolation #62) » Mon May 20, 2019 5:53 pm

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In post 1, funkybike1 wrote:here may or may not be additional scum or third-party factions.
40. There are no bastard elements in this game; I will never deliberately lie to you outside the bounds of normal gameplay. All investigative roles are Sane unless they are explicitly told they have a chance to be non-Sane.
41. There are no Cults, Survivors, Jesters, or Unjesters. The role you receive is the role and alignment you will have for the entire game unless your role PM specifically tells you otherwise.
hmm nevermind. although wtf is an unjester?

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Post Post #942 (isolation #63) » Tue May 21, 2019 5:10 am

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Actually sheeping brown eyes is 90% of the reason I want fusco. I don't know why you think I wouldn't? Read undertale, she tends to just have the best reads. Its almost like she is the type of player that would win awards for her townplay. I guess some of the rest will of what I said wasn't that compelling because sheeping brown eyes is literally where I started.

And why exactly do I not want to survive? There is nothing pro-town about being mislynched as town.

As for your other points, no, I wanted fusco before tris and my read on fusco brought me back from tris being the best wagon. Tris is probably just town actually. why are you misrepping like every single thing I wrote?
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Post Post #951 (isolation #64) » Tue May 21, 2019 5:44 am

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See that's a good question. Actually I've been paying so little attention to this game I forgot brown eyes doesn't even want fusc, she just never bothered to move her vote. To be honest I literally just stopped caring about this game a while ago.

Tris is probably town.

Pers can be town for actually engaging me.

Relly I think is scum. I know march disagrees or did disagree but that case seemed really opportunistic to me. Like my case on fusc was complete garbage but he felt the need to misrep it anyway wtf?
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Post Post #952 (isolation #65) » Tue May 21, 2019 5:46 am

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In post 950, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 947, Persivul wrote:
In post 942, Smile wrote:Actually sheeping brown eyes is 90% of the reason I want fusco. I don't know why you think I wouldn't? Read undertale, she tends to just have the best reads. Its almost like she is the type of player that would win awards for her townplay. I guess some of the rest will of what I said wasn't that compelling because sheeping brown eyes is literally where I started.
Brown Eyes has all of 3 posts. You can't possibly be confident she's town at this point. Why would you sheep someone if you're not pretty sure they're town?
Did you want to tell Smile that Brown Eyes' vote was a holdover from their predecessor or should I?

Yeah you catch this after persivul but not when writing a long case on me

I literally just saw be's vote there in the vc and felt like sheeping it. You've seen my scum play and you think that is something I do as scum?
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Post Post #955 (isolation #66) » Tue May 21, 2019 5:49 am

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I said that the main issue I had was that fusco reminds me of how scum skygazer plays. I guess you missed that because that post was probably too wordy but I guess that's my own fault for coming off a long conversation on discord and trying to remember what I had argued to march
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Post Post #957 (isolation #67) » Tue May 21, 2019 5:53 am

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In post 956, insomnia wrote:When are you just going to start lolcatting tbh
why is this slot still alive?
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Post Post #961 (isolation #68) » Tue May 21, 2019 5:55 am

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In post 959, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 955, Smile wrote:I said that the main issue I had was that fusco reminds me of how scum skygazer plays. I guess you missed that because that post was probably too wordy but I guess that's my own fault for coming off a long conversation on discord and trying to remember what I had argued to march
I did miss that.
It's also not really a case, seeing as fuscezu is not skygazer.
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Post Post #962 (isolation #69) » Tue May 21, 2019 5:56 am

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You don't know my read on insomnia even though you literally just cased me?
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Post Post #963 (isolation #70) » Tue May 21, 2019 5:58 am

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Scum tris does try to attract my vote as scum there and there are no jesters. She wss trying to sort me.

skygazer plays by making a lot of low effort little pushes and then moving her vote around a lot which is basically how fusco has been playing
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Post Post #966 (isolation #71) » Tue May 21, 2019 6:01 am

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Or at least suspicion, I think you're right though, given your wking fusco is probably town too
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Post Post #967 (isolation #72) » Tue May 21, 2019 6:01 am

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In post 965, Persivul wrote:
In post 950, Irrelephant11 wrote:Did you want to tell Smile that Brown Eyes' vote was a holdover from their predecessor or should I?
Holy crap I missed that. Good catch.
And why would that make me scum pers?
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Post Post #970 (isolation #73) » Tue May 21, 2019 6:05 am

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VOTE: relly
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Post Post #972 (isolation #74) » Tue May 21, 2019 6:07 am

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To be honest I didn't even plan to read day 1 at all, I only started playing because the other heads except march flaked
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Post Post #973 (isolation #75) » Tue May 21, 2019 6:08 am

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You don't need to misrep my case by saying it was totally dependent on tris as town and you don't scumread me for not reading the thread when that is something I only do as town
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Post Post #974 (isolation #76) » Tue May 21, 2019 6:09 am

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In post 969, Persivul wrote:
In post 967, Smile wrote:And why would that make me scum pers?
It shows you're not paying attention to the game (a point I made on you guys earlier in the game re: baezu). TBF in this game I doubt that all the people who aren't paying attention are scum, but still, in my experience that's more likely to come from scum than from town.
Yeah your read on me is usually wrong so nothing new there
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Post Post #976 (isolation #77) » Tue May 21, 2019 6:13 am

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Tris being scum
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Post Post #977 (isolation #78) » Tue May 21, 2019 6:16 am

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Your whole case on me is from you saying you saying you think my vote on fusc was contingent on me thinking tris was scum when that is not what I was saying
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Post Post #980 (isolation #79) » Tue May 21, 2019 6:19 am

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Persi what is your read of relly rn?
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Post Post #982 (isolation #80) » Tue May 21, 2019 6:20 am

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In post 979, Persivul wrote:
In post 974, Smile wrote:Yeah your read on me is usually wrong so nothing new there
That might mean something if I knew who you were. Playing in an anonymous hydra but then appealing to meta is ridiculous.
Yeah and yet that's the other 50% of relly's case on me. So why are you sheeping meta cases on people who you don't even know who are?
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Post Post #985 (isolation #81) » Tue May 21, 2019 6:25 am

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In post 983, Persivul wrote:
In post 980, Smile wrote:Persi what is your read of relly rn?
RTFT. I very recently said that he's my strongest town read (my only real town read actually).
Have you played with relly before?
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Post Post #989 (isolation #82) » Tue May 21, 2019 6:34 am

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Ok what metrics do you use to read him? What are those insights?
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Post Post #991 (isolation #83) » Tue May 21, 2019 6:48 am

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So you're unwilling to towncase your strongest townread who you are also sheeping?
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Post Post #993 (isolation #84) » Tue May 21, 2019 6:54 am

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why are you wking persivul now?
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Post Post #994 (isolation #85) » Tue May 21, 2019 6:56 am

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Relly is thirsty for this mislynch which is too bad for him
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Post Post #995 (isolation #86) » Tue May 21, 2019 6:56 am

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I'm a day 2 IC
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Post Post #998 (isolation #87) » Tue May 21, 2019 7:00 am

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In post 996, Irrelephant11 wrote:Yes, in a stagnant gamestate with three equally viable lynches I am thirsty for the mislynch of the mighty, terrifying Smile, capable of garbage cases and not reading the thread
You are my mislynch priority rn, and for good reason
I have carried you as town so yeah I think you know how strong my townplay can be when I actually bother to play
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Post Post #1003 (isolation #88) » Tue May 21, 2019 7:11 am

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Why not? My only goal was to be alive on day 2. do you know how hard that is in a 5 person hydra?
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Post Post #1004 (isolation #89) » Tue May 21, 2019 7:12 am

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In post 1001, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 998, Smile wrote:
In post 996, Irrelephant11 wrote:Yes, in a stagnant gamestate with three equally viable lynches I am thirsty for the mislynch of the mighty, terrifying Smile, capable of garbage cases and not reading the thread
You are my mislynch priority rn, and for good reason
I have carried you as town so yeah I think you know how strong my townplay can be when I actually bother to play
Well this is actually baffling because I've never T/T'd the person I thought you were
during

You have and I carried you and I kinda don't believe you forgot that game
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Post Post #1006 (isolation #90) » Tue May 21, 2019 7:16 am

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Like sure I barely read this game but essentially I can be an endgame townblock with 2 jailers. I kinda didn't care about the wagon because I wanted to claim for jailer to protect me anyway. I just wanted to see who would be the scummiest jumping on me.
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Post Post #1008 (isolation #91) » Tue May 21, 2019 7:26 am

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In post 1007, Irrelephant11 wrote:you're not a duck, penguin, or zebra, right? 'Cause those are the only three dramatic reveals I can think of that would break my read on you

Relly is now trying to backpedal by implying he thinks he thought I was a different person as though he doesn't know who I am. This is not something someone asks *after* making a meta argument. This is something someone asks when they realize their mislynch is an IC.
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Post Post #1011 (isolation #92) » Tue May 21, 2019 7:31 am

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In post 1009, tris wrote:That post doesn't imply to me that he's backing away.
He's pushed too hard. He has to test the waters first to see if he can back off for a plausible reason.
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Post Post #1012 (isolation #93) » Tue May 21, 2019 7:31 am

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In post 1010, Irrelephant11 wrote:I am not trying to backpedal.
This is what he says when he realizes he's dug himself too deep
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Post Post #1014 (isolation #94) » Tue May 21, 2019 7:32 am

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Tris what is your read of irrelephant and why?
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Post Post #1015 (isolation #95) » Tue May 21, 2019 7:33 am

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In post 1013, Irrelephant11 wrote:peditx2: I'm actually laughing
:yawn: someone is getting desperate and now is going to start lurking so he doesn't spew anymore
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Post Post #1018 (isolation #96) » Tue May 21, 2019 7:37 am

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In post 1016, tris wrote:Town. He has thoughts that seem organic and nuanced, and a couple of times have meshed with how I'm thinking.
What times are those?
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Post Post #1035 (isolation #97) » Tue May 21, 2019 11:03 am

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Well that was easier than I thought

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Post Post #1047 (isolation #98) » Tue May 21, 2019 11:15 am

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In post 1044, Chara wrote:if that's real and you're town, Smile, i'm really really pissed.
if Smile is scum i'm okay with it.
Why do you think i called her a spoon

I finished work with a discord message “ i shot relly”

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Post Post #1050 (isolation #99) » Tue May 21, 2019 11:18 am

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Wait we did get hammered right
I dont wanna get banned for posting reads during twilight

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Post Post #1054 (isolation #100) » Tue May 21, 2019 11:20 am

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Is twilight posting not illegal here
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Post Post #1056 (isolation #101) » Tue May 21, 2019 11:21 am

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Dude ask beauty

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Post Post #2095 (isolation #102) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:09 am

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GG all! Thanks for modding funkybike!
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Post Post #2130 (isolation #103) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:52 am

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We ran it down mid to make insomnia lock town
You gotta contain your temptation to be a nice scum by trying to save a teammate

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