I will never be mislynched as an IC.In post 2066, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:When people brag about never getting mislynched, I kind of want to smack them hard.
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mastina - town-by-claim masonizer
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Titus/popsofctown - Player absorber
EeveeLution Army -> Neighbor+. Fullclaim in the hood, considering whether to out specifics or not.
Pine - Relationship -> loverizer
Who/RadiantCowbells -> Player absorber
nomnomnom - Kison/zor -> Vig
Lavender - jeep+meme autowin.
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Ausuka - unclaimed
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@Titus, is there more to your role than player absorption?
@RC, do you think engagement with the game is AI for Who?
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Not really, no. Just wondering if you had insights that might help my thought processes and if you thought the same things setup wise as I do, given that we have very similar amounts of setup information atm.In post 2379, RadiantCowbells wrote:is your actual question do I think that titus / popsofctown are more likely to be scum than rand because they have the same role as who?
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mastina, if you get a chance I'd like to hear your overall setup thoughts as well. IIn post 2385, Jingle wrote:Not really, no. Just wondering if you had insights that might help my thought processes and if you thought the same things setup wise as I do, given that we have very similar amounts of setup information atm.thinkwe might be able to shenanigans this game.This is a Parachute.-
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Wrong. From a town you PoV there is a more sure suspect.In post 2390, nomnomnom wrote:So I think Pine is the most logical person to be scum here. But yeah.This is a Parachute.-
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I'm both mechanically conftown and not pushing your slot, so...In post 2397, RadiantCowbells wrote:jingle if you're going to push my slot as higher equity scum I'm going to take it as a scumclaim.This is a Parachute.-
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It isn't. I'll explain when I'm done fishing for information.In post 2399, nomnomnom wrote:If it isn't Who I don't really see who you're implying.
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I get to be cryptic by nature of my role. I'll explain everything sometime today, but it's a Jingle logic train which are usually hard to predict for other people.In post 2406, nomnomnom wrote:Well I'm not seeing it Jingle. I could use some insight I guess.This is a Parachute.-
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There is no way there are 4 groupscum in this game FMPOV.In post 2421, mastina wrote:While I think town power may be strong this game (may be, not definitely is), if so, scum are EQUALLY as OP. Not in terms of numbers; in terms of power roles.
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I have thoughts on this, but don't want to share them before I figure out the setup a little more.In post 2434, RadiantCowbells wrote:i think regardless of the possibility of interference that we should be lynching ELA today.This is a Parachute.-
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vig needed both kison and zor to post ITT (claimed neutral survivor that won at that point and retracted when it happened)
loverizer gets a shot whenever a person who is top 5 in the relationship thread posts about relationships in this thread. Believable because ofhrz claimed similar gate to an unspecified power.This is a Parachute.-
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Who among the players knows jeep/meme enough to come up with that claim?In post 2439, RadiantCowbells wrote:also i think lavender is always scum here.
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No, she's probtown by claim. I honestly haven't tried to read her because she's not trying to read me so it's impossible for me to have any certainty.In post 2447, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:You think Mastina’s scum? If so, I officially give up on ever trying to read her.This is a Parachute.-
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Agreed, it is sketchy AF.In post 2453, RadiantCowbells wrote:like come on. "my role automatically wins the game if two people post" when everyone's discussing getting people to post. she would have claimed.This is a Parachute.-
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I'm not ready to chain just yet, but as of rn this doesn't seem unlikely.In post 2461, RadiantCowbells wrote:if we're not lynching lavender tomorrow after ELA at the latest i'm just not playing this one.This is a Parachute.-
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She doesn't sound towny either. She's just kind of there.In post 2465, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
I read her as lhf mislynchbait. She doesn’t sound scummy to me.In post 2458, RadiantCowbells wrote:i don't.
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where the fuck have I disagreed with anything?In post 2468, RadiantCowbells wrote:nom and jingle are disagreeing with me because nom is nom and jingle is jingle.
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Counteroffer: if someone claims a roleblock on mastina we lynch them.In post 2483, RadiantCowbells wrote:if no one claims a roleblock on mastina we're lynching ELA btwThis is a Parachute.-
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I'm waiting for EV to explicitly confirm my IC status, actually.In post 2492, RadiantCowbells wrote:i'll refrain from commenting until you're done with whatever you're doing.
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Disagree. I'm fairly well confirmed either way, now. Either I'm wrong and EV is town, thus has no reason to lie, or I'm right and EV is scum and by virtue of being in the same neighborhood as her AND the implicit townyness from claiming IC early and not having it argued against by the person who is confirmed town before they died, I'm town.In post 2497, Who wrote:
I don't see how caught scum confirming that you're conftown to them confirms you. You're generally super town, but you seem to have lost hope of confirmation.In post 2494, Jingle wrote:
I'm waiting for EV to explicitly confirm my IC status, actually.In post 2492, RadiantCowbells wrote:i'll refrain from commenting until you're done with whatever you're doing.
I'll logic after that.
Okay, here goes.
We have two action fail claims. mastina/nomnomnom. Scum doesn't have double roleblock here. Town doesn't roleblock the public hated player by virtue of the fact that she was a universal TR just below me and Wagon in surety. Scum doesn't roleblock the public hated player by virtue of them already being claimed ITT and not especially opposed to her own lynch. Therefore, if mastina town, EV almost definitely lying. EV fullclaimed the same role as Wagon in the neighborhood. Mastina probtown based on hated that doesn't leave in LYLO claim. If we ever hit LYLO with mastina alive, she gets turbo lynched. Until that time she's conftown. And yes, this means that she doesn't get lynched the day before LYLO, that's dumb.
Wagon nightkill over me makes sense if EV scum. I spent most of the night phase talking about how it was possible the neighborhood was all town and I had no decent reads, so a scumteam with EV doesn't really want me dead.
RC is probably town via his treatment of me.
nomnomnom is town if Lav is scum. They have functionally identical activation requirements. Nomnomnom treated the role in the town method.
Of the four powers that RC thinks can't all be town, Pine is the least likely to be town. This is not set in stone, but if true heavily implies ofhrz town.
There's a decent chance that EV is scum power. My role PM implies that other people in the neighborhood might have additional powers.This is a Parachute.-
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You were roughly 100% not docced last night.In post 2509, RadiantCowbells wrote:also if someone docced us last night they should doc us again tonight
Who was not a townread of anyone. Further, wagon and I were both obvious nightkills and consensus town.
We probably don't have a protective role given the commuter flip.This is a Parachute.-
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IF mastina/nom both town, one of them is the kill tonight.
Mastina, I think Pine is objectively the best masonize shot. If you masonize him then that stops him from being a lynch target. If he's scum, we pretty much have this game on lock imo. If EV flips rb and that fails, I'm taking it as a hard guilty.
Additionally I'm certain that you're not scum together, so a positive result is trustworthy and at that point I'm fine with treating Pine as vig, linking scumspects to likely nks.
If nomkill goes through, nom is functionally conftowned.This is a Parachute.-
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I implied I thought it was all town and had no other reads. Wagon was explicitly sr-ing EV.In post 2536, nomnomnom wrote:If you SPECIFICALLY said in the neighborhood that it's almost impossible that the entire neighborhood is town then how does it make sense that Wags gets nightkilled here? It would LITERALLY destroy her here right??This is a Parachute.-
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Eevee is most likely among the players to be scum, mechanically speaking. If scum, RC/Who is not scum power. Pine is the least sure of my scumreads, and also the most useful if town.In post 2539, nomnomnom wrote:Are you sure about Eevee? I'll sheep whatever order you want to go through.This is a Parachute.-
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If Pine/mastina/nom all claim rb-d, 2/3 of them are lying scum. I hope that happens, it'll be cool.In post 2548, EeveeLution Army wrote:also what if pine claims roleblocked too?This is a Parachute.-
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I believe if scum Pine may be lying about whether he's active.In post 2627, RadiantCowbells wrote:i believe pine's claim regardless of alignment. lavender/ELA is shrug. probably more likely to be on neighbour than the autowin playerThis is a Parachute.-
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The reason this isn't as strong as EV mechanically is because scum saving town Pine actually makes sense. You crumbed shooting like five people, mostly jokingly, but still. Additionally, if scum saves Pine, you don't get conftowned via two kills. Additionally, if scum saves Pine he's likely to get lynched eventually.In post 2633, nomnomnom wrote:I'll just follow Jingle's call. FMPOV I have a lot more faith in Pine given what I said and what happened.
Basically, scum wants to roleblock vig shots on town unless they actually end the game in a scum win.
Pine could definitely be scum here. EV is almost certainly scum here.This is a Parachute.-
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No, Pine theoretically doesn't have any shots yet. If he's scum, I think it's a reasonable assumption that he does and is just keeping that lowkey to set up a big death night.In post 2637, RadiantCowbells wrote:you think that scum is lying about his role entirely?
i mean i guess it's possible but I also don't see us lynching Pine today so if he is the roleblocker then we're just not lynching the roleblocker today.
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This reinforces scumLav, btw.In post 2578, mastina wrote:
Usually this.In post 2462, Jingle wrote:claims via towny scumroles and scummy townroles?This is a Parachute.-
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More to the point, the unclaimed players are all probtown and I don't want to out a protective in the extreme off chance that I'm super wrong about the setup.In post 2645, nomnomnom wrote:We're not claiming today, it serves no purpose.
ofhrz/Ausuka/PP is the unclaimed pool, and I don't think any of them has much scum equity. Of the three, PP probably has the worst ISO, but his reaction to early pressure felt towny.This is a Parachute.-
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b/c neighbor is a safeclaim. It's actually pretty standard to put 'scummy' powers on scum neighbors in role madness, because they don't have to come up with something else they should be doing to fit in.In post 2591, nomnomnom wrote:Would a Neighbor Roleblocker make sense?
I mean from a setup perspective, why put the roleblocker on the neighbor here?
Then again she made a post that made me think she could be the roleblocker.This is a Parachute.-
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Yes.In post 2598, mastina wrote:Would you still think EeveeLution Army was scum?
By virtue of the NKA, by virtue of my read from yesterday (lots of IIOA/Fluff not a lot of gamesolvey-ness), and by virtue of me getting buddying feels from the neighborhood.
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Actually, if I was more sure about the complete lack of a protective, I would also want massclaim today. I just think there is a good chance that a specific player is a doc/jk if I'm super off base, and I want them to survive tonight if that's the case.In post 2650, nomnomnom wrote:If you TRULY think that we lynch in ELA and lavender it serves absolutely no purpose to make everyone claim here since those two players have already claim.This is a Parachute.-
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+1In post 2653, RadiantCowbells wrote:2651 is why i'm at ela today lavender vig btw
I'm mostly waiting to see if anyone comes out of the woodwork with relevant information. No reason to rush the hammer. I probably also want to drop a locktown list before EoD just in case, but that's pretty low on my priority list.This is a Parachute.
