2078: Any Non-Dead Person Can Post In This Mafia Game [end]

nomnomnom · Post Post #2625 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:10 pm

For all that's worth though ELA also played REALLY bad in the large normal I played with her and she was town there and that kinda fucked with my mind.

Just an addendum here.

nomnomnom · Post Post #2626 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:11 pm

In post 2624, RadiantCowbells wrote:i'm playing as if it's not that simple, which is why I want to try to hit the roleblocker today.

The only thing that's weird is giving the neighbor the roleblocker role in the scumteam.

Do you see Lavender or Pine more likely to have that PR?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2627 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:12 pm

we need a claim from pine before we can do anything from here.

The only thing that's weird is giving the neighbor the roleblocker role in the scumteam.

Do you see Lavender or Pine more likely to have that PR?

i believe pine's claim regardless of alignment. lavender/ELA is shrug. probably more likely to be on neighbour than the autowin player

nomnomnom · Post Post #2628 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:13 pm

I 100% believe Pine is not going to say ANYTHING today, period.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2629 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:13 pm

then he's confirmed scum and we lynch him today.

Nancy Drew 39 · Post Post #2630 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:13 pm

In post 2622, popsofctown wrote:
In post 2606, RadiantCowbells wrote:I think ELA is scum by play even ignoring the guilty.

ISO her in Necromancer, she completely ignored the wagon on her until after it was hammered.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2631 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:14 pm

are you saying that she's town or scum ND

popsofctown · Post Post #2632 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:14 pm

oh i'm gonna UNVOTE: because I'm happy to have a longer day where people are breaking the setup and nonsense.

Also Titus is more powerful when she can flash out of the bushes and lynch people more surprisingly anyway.

nomnomnom · Post Post #2633 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:14 pm

I'll just follow Jingle's call. FMPOV I have a lot more faith in Pine given what I said and what happened.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2634 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:15 pm

Everyone should claim today who hasn't

nomnomnom · Post Post #2635 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:16 pm

hell no

Jingle · Post Post #2636 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:24 pm

In post 2627, RadiantCowbells wrote:i believe pine's claim regardless of alignment. lavender/ELA is shrug. probably more likely to be on neighbour than the autowin player

I believe if scum Pine may be lying about whether he's active.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2637 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:25 pm

you think that scum is lying about his role entirely?

i mean i guess it's possible but I also don't see us lynching Pine today so if he is the roleblocker then we're just not lynching the roleblocker today.

nomnomnom · Post Post #2638 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:26 pm

Does loverizing someone take priority over vig shots?

If that's the case then isn't it straight up better to let me shoot Pine here and make him a townie in the process?

nomnomnom · Post Post #2639 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:27 pm

We also have to keep in mind he obscured

his number of shots

which is a very important detail here.

Jingle · Post Post #2640 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:28 pm

In post 2633, nomnomnom wrote:I'll just follow Jingle's call. FMPOV I have a lot more faith in Pine given what I said and what happened.

The reason this isn't as strong as EV mechanically is because scum saving town Pine actually makes sense. You crumbed shooting like five people, mostly jokingly, but still. Additionally, if scum saves Pine, you don't get conftowned via two kills. Additionally, if scum saves Pine he's likely to get lynched eventually.

Basically, scum wants to roleblock vig shots on town unless they actually end the game in a scum win.

Pine could definitely be scum here. EV is almost certainly scum here.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2641 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:29 pm

we're not lynching anyone who isn't ela or lavender

Jingle · Post Post #2642 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:29 pm

In post 2637, RadiantCowbells wrote:you think that scum is lying about his role entirely?

i mean i guess it's possible but I also don't see us lynching Pine today so if he is the roleblocker then we're just not lynching the roleblocker today.

No, Pine theoretically doesn't have any shots yet. If he's scum, I think it's a reasonable assumption that he does and is just keeping that lowkey to set up a big death night.

Still agree we're not lynching him today, though.

nomnomnom · Post Post #2643 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:29 pm

In post 2640, Jingle wrote:
In post 2633, nomnomnom wrote:I'll just follow Jingle's call. FMPOV I have a lot more faith in Pine given what I said and what happened.
The reason this isn't as strong as EV mechanically is because scum saving town Pine actually makes sense. You crumbed shooting like five people, mostly jokingly, but still. Additionally, if scum saves Pine, you don't get conftowned via two kills. Additionally, if scum saves Pine he's likely to get lynched eventually.

Basically, scum wants to roleblock vig shots on town unless they actually end the game in a scum win.

Pine could definitely be scum here. EV is almost certainly scum here.

Yeah, I agree with you, that would be the logic for keeping Who alive here too.

Still though. That pine vote is yikes.

We should soon decide on a lynch. Pine is never outing his love shot here.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2644 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:30 pm

we're still waiting for a claim from him.

also everyone else should probably claim too.

nomnomnom · Post Post #2645 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:31 pm

We're not claiming today, it serves no purpose.

It also makes the day go way longer than it should. We have everything we need here in terms of posters.

Jingle · Post Post #2646 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:32 pm

In post 2578, mastina wrote:
In post 2462, Jingle wrote:claims via towny scumroles and scummy townroles?
Usually this.

This reinforces scumLav, btw.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2647 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:32 pm

earlier we force massclaim the easier it'll be to confirm and deny roles and all of the true town power is already out presumably

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2648 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:32 pm

earlier we force massclaim the easier it'll be to confirm and deny roles and all of the true town power is already out presumably

Jingle · Post Post #2649 (ISO) » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:34 pm

In post 2645, nomnomnom wrote:We're not claiming today, it serves no purpose.

More to the point, the unclaimed players are all probtown and I don't want to out a protective in the extreme off chance that I'm super wrong about the setup.

ofhrz/Ausuka/PP is the unclaimed pool, and I don't think any of them has much scum equity. Of the three, PP probably has the worst ISO, but his reaction to early pressure felt towny.