Mini 2084: Pokemon Ruby Mafia - Game Over

[Creature]

Ok Creature I'll townread you too. Let's talk about Gamma. I was townreading him pretty hard but now I'm not as convinced. Should I go back?

That's the same wagon on him I saw happening on that town-role-model Krazy's anime game.

It's gonna hit town.

[Creature]

I probably missed some other horrendously townsided games probably, but there's already plenty to tell the problem.

[Creature]

This is what we can do: we take RC's ISO like it's a bible and we look for scum based on it

Alternatively we can start a thread orgy and get reads out of interactions.

[Creature]

We can do both too, but don't get fooled by someone quoting a bunch of posts and wanting to pull a soccer commentarist.

[Creature]

I believe the things I'm saying

Do you really?

[Creature]

How that wagon happened and what that indicates?

[Creature]

Hehe

It's like that game I posted 2k posts as scum.

[Creature]

i feel like both CC and EP are pretty hard town after that last interaction

[Creature]

Klick, where are you?

[Creature]

Damn, when I just got the libido.

[Creature]

The winner takes it all.

[Creature]

I also think Chemist has 0 posts that indicate any sort of actual gamesolviness.

^

[Creature]

Ofrhz and Menalque are pretty much scum.

Who do you want lynched first?

[Creature]

I think we could focus on Menalque and Pine

Wasn't ClearlyCabinet twony though?

[Creature]

Chemist is still in this game?????

Yes

We have two outed scum, want to test the third though?

[Creature]

I can't guarantee Chemist as scum

But we may get something

Either reads or a scumflip

[Creature]

ofrhz I'm not convinced yet and I think I can get a pretty good read on her with some more time and interactions. pinturicchio had a solid record on reading her and I'm better than pinturicchio

Ofrhz and Menalque are pretty much scum.

Who do you want lynched first?

Tell me why. Because I can see it, but not with any real confidence.

Town!ofrhz has way more wim than that.

[Creature]

Ofrhz and Menalque are pretty much scum.

Who do you want lynched first?

Tell me why. Because I can see it, but not with any real confidence.

URAP2 was very bad for his standards.

Menalque was way better than this at ClearlyCabinet's townsided mini normal.

Also RC.

[Creature]

But ofrhz voted me and I think that comes from town!ofrhz

There's something called consistence though.

[Creature]

Is he showing to be consistent with his townplay or is just playing like a fish jumping out of the water sometimes?

[Creature]

Hmmm

Maybe we do ofrhz first?

[Creature]

What's your confidence on scum!ofrhz?

[Creature]

Chemist's name keeps popping up though.

[Creature]

He just be watching


From the scum PT

[Creature]

So ghost RC

How satisfied are you with an ofrhz's lynch?

[Creature]

VOTE: Chemist

test

[Creature]

Chemist seems to be scum thrpugh activity tell though.

[Creature]

Activity tell? I'm unfamiliar.

Oh right you're not 2018 generation.

[Creature]

Mafia has turned into a activity oligarchy since then.

[Creature]

Hopefully the misusage of a vs an doesn't ruin the above post.

[Creature]

Someone please unvote before we get a repeat of yesterday.
Ive seen zero actual compelling reasons to scumread Gamma so far.

Regardless of your opinion on Gamma, today really shouldn't end yet

This post sounds bothersome though.

[Creature]

even if Gamma is town

[Creature]

What happened to using RC's reads as a Bible? Chemist was in his townlist.

Let's see

[Creature]

If Tim justified somewhere then I'd be willing to take that.

[Creature]

Ok but like 'yeah gamma would have been motivated to obvtown as scum' seems like a really convenient excuse to brush off how towny Gamma has been since he entered.

[Creature]

If I had to guess at a scumteam right now it's {URAP2, Chemist1422, DP}

I don't know what changed since then though.

[Creature]

In Chemist's defense in this ofrhz/Chemist dichotomy (which it isn't a dichotomy at all), Tim was scumreading ofrhz

If you think ofrhz and Chemist can't be scum together then we're doing ofrhz first.

[Creature]

Just want to test the Chemist wagon.

[Creature]

Hmm we have 12 hours

We treat 7 days left like it's the deadline.

[Creature]

Hmm we have 12 hours

We treat 7 days left like it's the deadline.

*12 days left I mean

[Creature]

In Chemist's defense in this ofrhz/Chemist dichotomy (which it isn't a dichotomy at all), Tim was scumreading ofrhz

If you think ofrhz and Chemist can't be scum together then we're doing ofrhz first.

I do think that because of how Chemist interacted with ofrhz early

We can take a look at it?

[Creature]

Hi again Chemist

[Creature]

If you'd rather read ISOs, ClearlyCabinet's should be easy.

[Creature]

Yeh, Chemist looks the townier out of that interaction.

[Creature]

It's pissing me off he's online and not posting anything.

[Creature]

Hmm we have 12 hours

We treat 7 days left like it's the deadline.

Why so long?

Let's say today's deadline is actually

(expired on 2019-07-10 04:41:07)

Oh shit we gotta lynch soon.

[Creature]

Votecount 2.01

Gamma Emerald (3) -

Menalque, RedPanda, EspressoPatronum

Menalque (1) -

Creature

Creature (1) -

Klick

Not Voting (6) -

Detective Pikachu, Gamma Emerald, Chemist1422, Pink Ball, ofrhz, Pine

With 11 players alive it takes 6 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2019-07-19 09:05:00).

Hi sorry I suck

I’m here though and read Menal’s case on Gamma and am willing to follow it

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

L-2

@Menalque Gamma did vote me though. Your case seems to be reactive to Gamma pushing you instead of genuine scumreading him, but sure, let's lynch him, I don't like him alive either.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

L-1

[Creature]

I feel better about menalque town and am cooling on gamma

Still prefer this though

VOTE: pink

[Creature]

Also quoted that gem.

[Creature]

Could be ofrhz not wanting to sheep his buddy on Gamma.

[Creature]

Detective Pika is scum and so is gamma calling it now

Menalque's already wrong here.

[Creature]

Huh getting paranoid about RedPanda

[Creature]

Gotta also note a weak meat scumteam won't challenge RC's oddnight commuter claim

Unless they forgot or didn't realise strongman doesn't override commuter lol

[Creature]

Which is funny bc apart from being way off base on me and FB I could conceivably see it being DP and creature w/ gamma

2/3 wrongs already

If Gamma is town you can ask for a song on Fantastico

[Creature]

did espresso just soft neighborizor

Espresso:

???

[Creature]

Votecount 1.13

Firebringer (7) -

Pink Ball,

Tim Goodman, Detective Pikachu,

EspressoPatronum, Gamma Emerald,

Firebringer

, RedPanda

Gamma Emerald (1) -

Menalque

Menalque (1) -

Creature

ofrhz (1) -

Chemist1422

Red Panda (1) -

ofrhz

Detective Pikachu (1) -

Klick

Klick (1) -

Pine

Not Voting (0) -

With 13 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

A lynch has been achieved.

Gonna expand on this, Chemist?

[Creature]

I need to reevaluate.

Where did you?

[Creature]

Oh shit I forgot about Pine, so the lynchpool is bigger.

ClearlyClarity was pure town though.

[Creature]

Can you build my house with pieces?
I'm just a chemical

[Creature]

I advise against building lynchpools though

You can either build a strong towncore or find scum to lynch today. Both will help our condition, while the lynchpool can easily screw us.

[Creature]

If I had to guess at a scumteam right now it's {URAP2, Chemist1422, DP}

Hi fellow trainers I’m your new CJV

Welcome!

VOTE: redpanda

Can you elaborate on why?

probably just because of 378

at a computer now, so I can quote more easily

Now I think I caught two scum and you were just trying to bus the other at first and uturned after tim gave you some slack.

This just seems reachy. The quoted post seems like RP decided to scumread the CC/Cinnamon slot and is justifying holding onto his read for questionable reasons

But did you just ignore my case against you both? If you were objective you could see that I was targeting slots that were being opportunistic.

I agree with DP here Klick's push seems to be pretty bad. I don't think their reasons for pushing Pikachu are good at all.

I have a bit of an EP scumread here. Their response to 67 and not 68 kind of suggests that they're trying to get Tim on their side, or at least take the spotlight off them. While it's not scum indicative to push on lurkers it's an easy way to generate a read as scum and it also helps bring attention to other players when he's getting pushed.

VOTE: EspressoPatronum

I'm cool with this right now.

Tim or anybody else townreading Ep rn could you explain your EP townread?

From my perspective 219 is pretty townie from CC but I didn't see anything that stood out to me as townie from EP.

This looks like scum posting an opinion on the dp slot after a few of us already townread it and moving on to the espresso wagon after a few scumread it and now is stuck and flailing around now that espresso heat is gone.

Why couldn't Cinnamon have just been a townie who had these opinions on Pikachu and Espresso? What about these posts seem fake to you?

Ofhrz posting is rly bad.

ofhrz urap DP?

[Creature]

Chemist like only fell off Tim's list because ofrhz, not because he has done something towny.

[Creature]

Gamma Emerald Cinnamon
RedPanda
EspressoPatronum
Chemist1422
Klick
Tim Goodman



Menalque u r a person 2
Firebringer Lil Uzi Vert, Dr worm
Detective Pikachu
Creature
Pink Ball
ofrhz ceejayvinoya
Pine ClearlyClarity

Ugh, can't tell how Chemist went from 4th scum candidate to second strongest townread.

[Creature]

Maybe RC's ISO is really like a bible.

[Creature]

I don't think Gamma is one to risk a nightkill on RC here?

[Creature]

RedPanda feels town?

Could be deepscum, but he's not the worry rn

[Creature]

Ugh not only the place I am is garbage so is the wifi there

[Creature]

This is the only game I have to play rn

[Creature]

Also am gdtting hyped up for MU's best game of the year

[Creature]

Uh my ears are hurting from the music rn

[Creature]

Also internet's still shit

[Creature]

Yeah, I keep circlejerking to Menalque and ofrhz scum.

but can't tell who is the third.

[Creature]

I'm officially making this wagon a serious deal:

VOTE: Klick

There:

VOTE: Detective Pikachu

So much for making the Klick wagon a serious deal. Why swap?

Hmm I like this post tho. Also noticed that creature never responded to this.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: creature

ceejay and Espresso TvT?

[Creature]

Also town stop being so useless. I've made a couple of posts that you can use to start discussion. If you don't have anything to talk about use it.

Huh. Which ones?

I declare an end to RVS.

I claim Vanilla.

Let's go!

Vote Ceejay

SRS vote.

rly.

Pretty ok with tim and creature for town, rest of my analysis will have to wait until Monday.

I will write 20 pages of analysis too scumbag.

Lol I'm not really inspired to start a meaningful and amazing discussion after reading those.

This here is one bad post.

[Creature]

I hate being the only poster

It keeps making me paranoid

[Creature]

I agree with DP here Klick's push seems to be pretty bad. I don't think their reasons for pushing Pikachu are good at all.

I have a bit of an EP scumread here. Their response to 67 and not 68 kind of suggests that they're trying to get Tim on their side, or at least take the spotlight off them. While it's not scum indicative to push on lurkers it's an easy way to generate a read as scum and it also helps bring attention to other players when he's getting pushed.

I like creature and Tim rn.

This sequence feels pretty meh though.

[Creature]

Back in my time lurkers were autolynched. Now I'm forced to distinguish a bunch of lurker town vs the lurkimg scumteam.

[Creature]

Yawn fuck this

Internet's not helping and so is no one else

[Creature]

Hi again Chemist

[Creature]

This ia gonna sting if I'm terribly wrong on Menalque and ofrhz.

[Creature]

Being an active post in a really slow game is painful.

[Creature]

Firebringer was like a really easy mislynch for scum.

[Creature]

I more of need someone to take some initiative too.

[Creature]

If I were to trust tim reads, You know you would be the scum right?

Not follow to the letter, but give heavy consideration.

[Creature]

I think I'm gettin convinced myself Menalque and ofrhz are scum.

[Creature]

What do you make of Chemist being clearly online in the online list yet intentionally dodging this thread?

[Creature]

Also, gonna be honest: Klick's posting today seemed pretty eh

Am mostly sheeping RC on Klick

[Creature]

I remember town!Chemist atleast giving a damn when players were on him, so I think we should hop there.

[Creature]

He's online rn and able to post so he should answer up.

[Creature]

I wonder if Chemist is like "oh they only want me to post not lynch me lets see what happens if i dont post"

[Creature]

I don't recall Gamma catching up the way he did this game. Should probably check that up.

[Creature]

I could trust most of your townreads, but I don't think I can trust you on Gamma being the best lynch today.

[Creature]

is it because you don't trust me or m skill?

I don't trust your ability to read Gamma well enough.

[Creature]

I hard townread dp day 1 after his posts on cinnamon.

luv

tim dp and you

Yet you hammered him?

[Creature]

I wish Luv didn't replace out

Me too. Probably wouldn't have lynched him.

Your excuse seems like something scum could easily pull, but guess you can easily get awsy with it anyway.

[Creature]

I'm about one of the most capable to rn if not the most.

[Creature]

Or I can get killed and my reads will be forgotten.

[Creature]

I'll reword it, how confident are you that you could win the game if you had control of every lynch?

Would say about decent chance. Can't guarantee I won't go wrong sometimes though.

[Creature]

I more of need someone to take some initiative too.

Then stop spamming the thread, please! Seeing pages upon pages of 80% Totodile really kills my motivation to engage.

Sorry, but this is like the only game I have to play rn. Atleast I can guarantee you tomorrow my focus will be elsewhere.

[Creature]

Serious question to everyone voting Chemist right now: do you actually, earnestly think he's doing anything differently to what he'd be doing as town in this game? Because this wagon looks extremely lazy to me. I disagree with the Gamma wagon but at least it looks genuine.

I was going to say I have a decent townread on him, but wanted to see him keep going.

[Creature]

A few people's reads lists seem to be skewed with low-content posters at the bottom and high-content posters at the top. That's a bias that should be fixed.

My main scumreads aren't even low posters, they're about mild posters.

[Creature]

Creature
Detective Pikachu
Pine
Klick
Pink Ball

That's 5/6 town already

Creature
Detective Pikachu
Pink Bal
Klick (trusting Arcy)
Chemist1422
0.5 Pine

5.5/6 town

[Creature]

It's Menalque + ofrhz + EspressoPatronum/RedPanda/probnot Gamma Emerald

Leaning EP for third

[Creature]

Back on track:

VOTE: Menalque

[Creature]

Also I just realized Mena flat out lied in his wall about me

What was the lie btw?

[Creature]

Call me back when something cool happens.

Kk, so you have DP as town. Any scumreads?

You made your vote in Klick in RVS. Do you still agree with your vote? Why/why not?

By "something cool" I don't mean "interrogate me because I'm on your arbitrary lurker prodlist" but w/e.

You're my biggest scumread rn. Klick is like... muddled. 105 was kinda bad but they actually try to scumhunt, even if misguided or reaction-testy.

My problem with CC is that they were kinda coasting by and were acting like they weren't the reason the game is slow.

[Creature]

I don't recall Gamma catching up the way he did this game. Should probably check that up.

Explain?

Lately you've been just a big lurksack as town.

[Creature]

You could like put actual effort atleast one full hour every two days? Or like just not sign up for games you can't commit?

[Creature]

I'm back to take back what's mine.

[Creature]

wow gamma

wow

[Creature]

I'm somewhat agitated today, so forgive me

[Creature]

Apparently I'm not feeling hype, I'm feeling sad

[Creature]

I really don't know, I tried to be helpful but I feel like I'm close to scum!me rn

In your situation I'd like just don't give a fuck about defending myself and try to like line up scum lynches in a more agressive way.

[Creature]

but I still don’t really see why creature is town here?

Cuz you feel the necessity to OMGUS me?

[Creature]

Mostly tone, he feels pretty townie to me right now. Also I don't think Creature is the type to kill RC when saying he was going to push the slot tomorrow if Firebringer flipped town.

I'm wondering who is the type to kill RC after he claimed odd-night commuter.

[Creature]

This is more of a ground type attack, and Creature is clearly water type.

Water types can't have ground attacks like Marshstomp?

[Creature]

Also I was somewhat paranoid I'd die N1 or something.

[Creature]

I think Menalque is town and our dichotomy is a TvT.

Consider me interested.

[Creature]

Maybe I'm overestimating a hypothetical town!Menalque's reads too much.

[Creature]

I'm thinking Klick is scum. She keeps feeling awkward.

[Creature]

POSSIBLE SCUMTEAM 1
RC/Tim

Hmm what?

[Creature]

POSSIBLE SCUMTEAM 2
Detective Pikachu

DP was neighborized by RC/TG

[Creature]

If Gamma is town can be I locktowned?

[Creature]

Aw naw, locktowning me is pointless.

[Creature]

The Creature in this game feels different than the Creature in Newbie 1936. I can't put my finger on it though.

1936: viewtopic.php?p=10983772&user_select%5B ... #p10983772

He's still just as active in this game, but it seems like he's producing less information compared to 1936.

Cuz Shubbins was obvscum af that other game and I can't find someone obvscum af in this game also I failed to whiteknight the slot I was supposed to be defending (LUV's slot).

[Creature]

I think I produced way more info this game than that other game though.

[Creature]

The Creature in this game feels different than the Creature in Newbie 1936. I can't put my finger on it though.

1936: viewtopic.php?p=10983772&user_select%5B ... #p10983772

He's still just as active in this game, but it seems like he's producing less information compared to 1936.

For some reason this doesn't feel natural.

It's as like someone told EP to post this.

Like, idk where he took the "producing less info" part unless he was bullshiting.

[Creature]

Was there any claim?

[Creature]

I'm better at reading claims than some guy walling accusations against him.

[Creature]

Creature? is that all you're going to talk about? What happened to town quality? What happened to tims reads? I know you were confused about why tim placed chemist where he was but I now understand it and I wanted to discuss that with you.

Once you have reached a conclusion earlier, it's harder to want to seek a new conclusion. It's as if you're just wasting time.

[Creature]

And RP didn’t seem to me like he’s totally sold on gamma as town from what I remember so I just am not convinced that statement is true

Yeah, I still still see a ofrhz gamma creature scumteam

This is amusing though.

How often do I whiteknight my buddies? hmmm

[Creature]

Yes, we can still do ofrhz, but let me check for other possible scum infiltrated in.

[Creature]

I still don't know how tf am I supposed to read you.

[Creature]

Maybe you can quote your post refuting the Tim is seriously townreading Chemist theory?

[Creature]

Did Gamma claim?

[Creature]

I intend to move my vote to Gamma and I want to know if he claimed or not

[Creature]

If he hasn't yet, I'll probably move to him anyway.

Just wondering if he did claim something I can check into.

[Creature]

Great

Can we lynch Gamma now?

[Creature]

Also you didn't even answer if he claimed or not

[Creature]

Ugh

The ofrhz wagon is pretty tempting too though

[Creature]

ofrhz also dodged claiming I assume?

[Creature]

VOTE: ofrhz

One of the two gets lynched today

It's more pro-town for them to claim though if they're town, unless they want to eat the lynch

[Creature]

Oh fuck this game

[Creature]

Kill me tonight

I dare you

[Creature]

Gamma Emerald is likely town

[Creature]

Probably we have Pine scum.

[Creature]

actually nvm. you did pick up on why tim townread ofhrz

?

[Creature]

VOTE: Chemist

This is flipping scum, 100%

I'm more confident on offers

Yeh I don't think so

[Creature]

How much can I post before this thread is locked?

[Creature]

Oh, ok, sorry for mixing up being scum with being an hypocrite. I want Chemist lynched, period.

I won't mind tbh

He's being completely useless this game

[Creature]

And the third scum? I'm between Klick, Creature and RedPanda, in that order.

Could be 2/3?

[Creature]

Pine + Elements + RedPanda?

[Creature]

Fyi PB I took you calling me annoying a bit personal because I saw someone call out who you are in another game

Ouch

[Creature]

lalalalala I'm not hearing

[Creature]

Gamma is at L-1.

Let's see how this page will go.

[Creature]

Also idk what happened with Klick there.

[Creature]

Okay, based on her tantrum page 73 I'm back to townreading Klick

[Creature]

Prodding ofrhz and Pine.

How exciting

[Creature]

Ok
I think Chemist is slightly towny

Why even?

[Creature]

Also still wondering why we're townreading Menalque

[Creature]

Someone ask me some questions or don't expect to hear from me for a quantity of time while a trawl 1867 posts. Yes I did google 75 *25 but now I realise the posts have numbers on them so that was a waste of time. Yay!

Okay, your avatar is cool

You can be town

[Creature]

wtf are you doing creature?

Man, you're derping hard

[Creature]

Well I'm Lass Sally, Vanilla Townie. My role mentions Cut but it's just flavor. So good luck on me eating an NK

This is town

[Creature]

I saw creature resistance to ofhrz lynch day 1. I saw creature wanting to sheep tims reads which was lynch menalque and ofhrz but when the ofhrz wagon actually had a chance, creature went missing. Creature also pushed away from ofhrz to chemist on day2 and I found that suspicious. Creature has deep wolf playstyle so best way for him to win is to set up mislynches and set up his buddy to win because deep wolves lose all town cred they build late game.

I want to see this being addressed if ofrhz flips town.

[Creature]

Also I'd just have bussed the fuck out of ofrhz if I was scum with him.

[Creature]

Er what is your read on me Elements? In fact a full read list would be nice from you rn

Menalque
DP

RP

Pine
PB
EP

Chemist
Creature

Gamma
ofrhz

r/mildlyinfuriating

[Creature]

@Ofrhz see below

my annotations

on Gamma's case against. TL;DR: Gamma points out your hedy reads and bandwagoning.

Note - At the time of Gamma's posting (and mine, shortly thereafter), my scumread read on Gamma had softened. I honestly think part of that is an activity bias on my part, but I think he brought up some good points on you. With Gamma's recent posting, however, I'm back to being more on the fence.

I'm still leaning toward you, Ofrhz. I feel uneasy about Creature, and others (RP specifically) are saying we gain information on hip with your flip. Seems good to me.

Spoiler:

I can feel my attention span slipping so I'll just post what I have so far on offers thought wise

My name is written in invisible ink at the top of my own readslist

Why post this at all?

Ofhrz posting is rly bad.

Why? Do you townread Panda?

Just assume it's coming from town and answer it then

@_@

This whole interaction still has me dazed and confused a little but after working on it I have a small grasp, it also helps I was able to look at later posts and get some perspective

I think ofrhz is worse, their reaction to pressure felt kinda off like they didn’t really care but were acting like they did.

what

I have stuff yo say here but it probably fits better in the future Chemist ISO

Detective Pika is scum and so is gamma calling it now

uh why is gamma scum?

Tbh I get a distinct feeling offers was white knighting me to and through this post, I feel they just seem super convinced I'm town which kinda concerns me, and on top of that I recall offers voting me this day phase which makes it weirder.

This is a good catch by Gamma. It shows your posting behaviour =/= your voting behaviour.

idk I don't have that many thoughts on him

The only thing that looks interesting in his iso is that he toneread ceejay and Pink Ball town, and I'm actually not tone townreading Pink ball here, which I think I tend to do when PB is town

actually I think FB could be scum based on uhhhh gut lol

I could join you guys on Menalque

If I voted, it'd be L-1 right

This looks like a hastily planned bandwagoning attempt tbh

I don't have thoughts on that....?

Oh I think Gamma is town :3

This feels like a cop out on actually reading Cinnamon

See above re white knighting

I believe you!

This opening feels very awkward to me

Agreed

I feel better about menalque town and am cooling on gamma

Still prefer this though

VOTE: pink

Begins flipping his read on me, but votes PB. Honestly I think with how he votes me later this indicates not just offers but PB too

I've been paranoid about them since the game started but I think he's not top priority.

If we agree that lynches should be in {ofrhz, Chemist, Menalque, RedPanda} I think we're into something. And by lynches I mean not only today. Of course we revaluate if we are wrong but I think that's a solid lynch pool, because of the townbloc that is implied with that. If we lynch Chemist and he flips scum I would trade ofrhz for another player, but more into that later.

This is pretty good but let’s not lynch me first

This post seems like he wants to be under the radar but is failing, and honestly he seems to respond like this to pressure consistently.

It's like people don't understand that replacements catchup posts should not be over analyzed as scum or town. They have an advantage of no interactions and they can pick and choose what to talk about and be somewhat honest about old posts.

I both agree with this and think there was merit to pushing a narrative that Gamma was towny to encourage that level of contribution from others yesterday. Regardless of actual alignment I think Gamma's early posts were pro-town.
But now that I'm finished reading into Gamma's ISO I'm left feeling almost entirely null about him, which surprises me.

Okay no this looks like scum trying to find an excuse to walk back their town read on me

Yeah. Super hedgy.

VOTE: Klick

I also recently came around to scumreading your slot, but you didn’t mention that in your catchup. Can you talk about why you treated my slot differently from Klick’s?

What's interesting is at this point I'd say offers' read flip on me makes less sense than Klick's

VOTE: gamma

I agree with PB's 1652 that this vote comes at a time that makes it rather scummy

Agreed. Looks like you hopped on the bandwagon. Your read transition from town!gamma to null!gamma to scum!gamma aligns with this.

Hi, I'm mechanical

[Creature]

Shouldn’t be pushing for a claim before L-1

unless deadline is approaching, the wagon on you has been stagnant all day and you don't want a surprise claim with no time left to switch wagons.

[Creature]

Yeah the Creature Gamma associations are getting awfully obvious

[Creature]

'cause maybe Pine and Elements join us and Gamma gets lynched

[Creature]

Aside from that nothing I skimmed through has really changed my reads apart from I think elements is far townier than klick was so I feel more comfortable about PB in my scumpool than I was

Still want gamma, followed by creature, followed by PB, so long as reds keep coming

I mean PB I still think you’re scum by PoE

If I’m right on gamma + creature and you are town, where is the third scum?

Nice story

[Creature]

Are we giving pine too much power here with two possible hammers?

I'm not sure I back either lynch right now.

At 9:16 I'm sitting down at my laptop, probably for the rest of the night. There's a massive thunderstorm predicted for tomorrow, so the huge campwide game I had planned just went in the bin. We're scaling back to an indoor skits-and-songs thing with appearances by costumed characters to be staged at the end. I still need to finish the Bowser costume, but Mario, Luigi, and Peach are ready to go.

The upshot is that, while I have to go make a new write-up so that our staff know the plan, I have a bunch of unexpected time tonight.

I'll make my decision on whether to back one of those two options or push through a flashwagon within an hour or two.

This is how you fencesit with quality.

[Creature]

I think I've become lazy again

[Creature]

Damn, why did this game become so complicated?

[Creature]

or maybe it's just Menalque + Pine + someone somewhat obvious and we're all fucking around.

[Creature]

Gamma is fucking confirmed scum now, he's trying to make this look like a tvt, he's trying to make me angry and then act angry himself and try to save his ass by doing this. Pine just lynch him please

RIP this game

[Creature]

Sorry RC, I failed you

[Creature]

Like you've

actually

hurt my feeling here.

This is an agonizing way to play mafia.

[Creature]

Ye PB still town.

Gamma is like, not really obvscum, I think if it wasn't for Mena push I probs would have been down for chemist today. Still dunno why people aren't good with sheeping me on Creature!Town but, eh, that's mostly a gut thing so I guess it's reasonable to get some pushback there.

I kinda don't remember who Gamma scumreads that I was ever on board with so that doesn't really help things. I'm sorry that this game is getting kinda salty

I'm pretty sure this day would have gone a lot better if there was some scum I was locked on and could drive but I just... I dunno. I think the townblock I mentioned earlier is still basically fine.

Creature town, PB town, Klickslot town, can't even remember now if I had one more.

Maybe I actually should have stepped back from the Mena/Gamma thing and hard pushed Chemist today but I'm just not feeling it now. I feel like this is just not a good game for me.

Don't worry, we're in together. We're going to win or fail together.

[Creature]

Fuck off

Fuck off

You fuck off.

[Creature]

I think this is the appropriate moment for lolcatting coming from town.

[Creature]

Well in all likelihood, neither of us will be lynching anybody

Spoiler: stupidly oversized gif

[Creature]

Pls don't deliberately spam

Too late

[Creature]

You're gonna have to work hard to explain Pine scum btw

He has been on the sidelines all game?

[Creature]

Also RC seems to have changed his read on him at some point.

[Creature]

Well, good luck you all

[Creature]

Hey Pine

Are you aware DP claims to have been neighborized by Tim Goodman?

[Creature]

RedPanda wagon is probably the best thing to have happened this game

[Creature]

Huh but I'm falling into pessimism

[Creature]

PE: Yes, Creature. I actually reference it in the post you didn't apparently read.

Will someone ever read that though?

[Creature]

I'm still thinking Menalque is scum :/

[Creature]

How sure are we on RedPanda?

[Creature]

DP
Elements
me

townblock for now

[Creature]

though I really think Gamma is town

[Creature]

Mislynching DP is gonna be way more embarrassing than losing to scum!DP.

[Creature]

Okay, enough easy noise

[Creature]

DP
Elements
me

townblock for now

Why is Elements in your town block

He actually sounds genuine

and Klick seemed genuine pre-replace too

[Creature]

I think Gamma will need to be sorted some day anyway even though I don't really see him flipping scum.

[Creature]

hmmm

VOTE: Pine

[Creature]

RP seems genuine.

I'm fine with Creature or Chemist today.

but Pine...