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I have more fun when I’m winning. Completely stomping a capable scumteam in Hall of Mirrors recently was the most fun I’ve had in a Mafia game since Turn of Camn.In post 46, Alisae wrote:ok but u have more fun playing scum
Choosing scum with my reputation in a UPick is pointless."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Dude, you're acting like I showed up with a fake nose and mustache, danced a jig, and sang, "Nothing to see here, folks!"
I was effectivelyasked.
The scum PT clearly said to each other in N0, "Hey guys, Pine ML first?" "Yeah, easy mode."
Not saying that everyone jumping on me is scum, clearly not...but there's definitely a low-hanging fruit motive to this push."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Alisae
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No clue so far, it's too early to have a real readslist. But now that you self-consciously mention it, your vote IS hella scummy, and saying "no points" doesn't make it not opportunistic AF."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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In post 88, Alisae wrote:
wait you’re not wearing a fake nose and a mustache, and you didn’t dance a jig and sing “nothing to see here, folks!”In post 83, Pine wrote:Dude, you're acting like I showed up with a fake nose and mustache, danced a jig, and sang, "Nothing to see here, folks!""Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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That's why I picked Town though.In post 90, Alisae wrote:You realize that its not completely unreasonable to think “hey, the person who literally stars in a series of games where he is a scum IC treestump is likely to pick scum right?”
Picking scum was legit suicide in a choose your side game.
Fucking cop me."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Plum, I listed everyone so I could do a PoE and analysis, but not one of those names has done anything (anything) other than make a meta WIFOM case against me, if that.
The only exception is you, and you practically came in your pants when the opportunity to hop on a free wagon showed up.
I’d love to do some scumhunting, but the only topic that’s really come up, aside from meta spec on me and Plum’s opportunism, is implosion’s brief foray into setup spec, which I want to say is mildly Townish"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Yeah, that doesn’t count.In post 113, Gamma Emerald wrote:
YesIn post 112, Katsuki wrote:
Was that the game where I posted nothing but youtube videos in protest because you guys spammed a few hundred pages in a few game days?In post 101, Gamma Emerald wrote:
You repped out if Heroes Wanted but we played thereIn post 99, Katsuki wrote:
When have I played with you before? I have no recollection of you. I assume it was some shitfest of a game though.In post 96, Gamma Emerald wrote:Tbh Katsuki you're quite serious compared to last time I played with you
I would imagine that there's a difference in playstyle when I'm playing a game with scrubs, and playing in an actual game of mafia."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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That ain't a scumlist my fren
I've said so again and 'gain
Reading is hard, I know
You don't get a pass, though
Go stuff your damn opinion
If you're going to fake a post restriction, make it internally consistent. Your limericks suck, and don't meet the definition."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I collected together everyone who was voting, took a look at them individually, collectively, and decided mid-post that it was too early to have any kind of real opinion about most of them. Ali and sky didn't give real reasons iirc, Grey and Kats were specifically meta reasons, and Plum was opportunistic. Only the last of those is at all AI, so I decided not to do the full thing.In post 123, hebichan wrote:Then what was the list of people if not a readlist, sounds like having your cake and eating it too.
This isn't weird, and I feel I've thoroughly explained myself.
(? I don't know if I count, some dickhole slipped me the Black Key.)Merci, Madame!"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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It apparently has its own method of being passed which...I think I prefer to keep to myself for now. I’ll hold onto the key for a bit, because I don’t really want to be inflict it on anyone yet.In post 153, Gamma Emerald wrote:
How did someone slip you a keyIn post 137, Pine wrote:
I collected together everyone who was voting, took a look at them individually, collectively, and decided mid-post that it was too early to have any kind of real opinion about most of them. Ali and sky didn't give real reasons iirc, Grey and Kats were specifically meta reasons, and Plum was opportunistic. Only the last of those is at all AI, so I decided not to do the full thing.In post 123, hebichan wrote:Then what was the list of people if not a readlist, sounds like having your cake and eating it too.
This isn't weird, and I feel I've thoroughly explained myself.
(? I don't know if I count, some dickhole slipped me the Black Key.)Merci, Madame!
I’m at L-1 now, by the by."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I can prove it, actually.
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Sorry for brevity, wanted to move quickly.
The black key can be passed by bracketing someone else’s posts with your own. I didn’t see the point of sharing this method or inflicting it on anyone, but it didn’t occur to me that people would think I’d invented it completely.
Skygazer should be able to verify my account of the black key as soon as LLD gets around to PMing her."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I’m being accused of doing no scumhunting, despite the fact that it’s practically impossible to do when two-thirds of the playerlist hasn’t done anything except say how omg scummy Pine is.
I’m going to be honest, I’m a little upset with this game."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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218 was a direct response to this.In post 205, GreyICE wrote:The black key is a thing in this game
I don't care it's just a pain
Pine ain't a hero
His scumhunting's zero
CHOO CHOO ON THE LYNCH TRAIN
And for (at least) the third or fourth time, 87 was a simple list of people voting me, not a readslist.
Are you even reading? Why do I have to answer the same question the same way this many times within 48 hours?"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I’ve already responded to Plum’s assertion that I had no interest in that list of five. At the time, Plum was the only one of them who’d done anything at all AI outside of voting for me, and I was scumreading her before that anywayIn post 137, Pine wrote:
I collected together everyone who was voting, took a look at them individually, collectively, and decided mid-post that it was too early to have any kind of real opinion about most of them. Ali and sky didn't give real reasons iirc, Grey and Kats were specifically meta reasons, and Plum was opportunistic. Only the last of those is at all AI, so I decided not to do the full thing.In post 123, hebichan wrote:Then what was the list of people if not a readlist, sounds like having your cake and eating it too.
This isn't weird, and I feel I've thoroughly explained myself.
(? I don't know if I count, some dickhole slipped me the Black Key.)Merci, Madame!"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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No, you can’t scumhunt.In post 237, GreyICE wrote:
It's CYS, you couldn't have missedIn post 222, Pine wrote: I’m being accused of doing no scumhunting, despite the fact that it’s practically impossible to do when two-thirds of the playerlist hasn’t done anything except say how omg scummy Pine is.
I’m going to be honest, I’m a little upset with this game.
We can scumhunt with a player list
A shitty reaction
No excuse for inaction
Burn this, TL next, don't care who is pissed.
You can make meta guesses, and that’s it. I picked Town *specifically* to avoid this, and a meta argument is tantamount to WIFOM
So, are you going to hide behind your fake-ass post restriction all game, or are you going to stop using it as an excuse not to do anything eventually? Seems to me that Alisae has made eir thoughts known just fine despite a real PR, whereas you’ve harped and mocked on one or two topics while avoiding anything else"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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A) He’s not actually sticking to the form of a limerick, but LLD isn’t busting himIn post 243, Plum wrote:Pine, why do you keep implying that GreyICE's post restriction is faked? And if you do think that, how do you read him?
B) His alleged post restriction is incompatible with the real inflicted one we’ve seen given out
C) GreyICE isexactlythe kind of player to fake a post restriction in a playerlist like this, then use the ‘restriction’ as a shield to give limited and trite explanations"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Oh and D) It doesn’t make sense from a setup perspective to have all of these events, curses, and added shenanigans, but also have one player hobbled the whole game. You’d just use the limerick PR as an event/curse etc"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I think...I dunno. It's probably NAI? Gimmick-y gameplay happens as any alignment. When Aeronaut and I made Caesar Wills It before Civ mafia, we decided to do it before roles and alignments were randed.In post 248, Plum wrote:
... so what do you make of GreyICE faking this?In post 246, Pine wrote:Oh and D) It doesn’t make sense from a setup perspective to have all of these events, curses, and added shenanigans, but also have one player hobbled the whole game. You’d just use the limerick PR as an event/curse etc
Strictly speaking, I think it means Grey decided to dick around, no more, no less. Functionally, it makes him almost impossible to fairly read, and makes questioning or refuting him frustratingly difficult."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Actually, I've seen people stop fake restrictions and not have it held against them. Personally, I'd give him a pass on it and be happy to have a GreyICE I could have a real conversation with. He'd be an asset in a game like this.In post 254, kuribo wrote:If he chose to do this, I actually find that hilarious because it's not like he could just stop and not get shit for lying
If this wasn't a real restriction, he's gonna have to keep it up for weeeeeeeks
Gimmicks are fun, and I think people get that. I just think it's wildly counterproductive here."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Limericks have a defined meter which he's not following very closely. Without going through them with a fine-toothed comb, I'd ballpark about 1/3 of them as technically not limericks.In post 255, Gamma Emerald wrote:
HowIn post 245, Pine wrote:B) His alleged post restriction is incompatible with the real inflicted one we’ve seen given out
Also don't get A but that's probably me being ignorant
Is it possible that LLD is giving him a pass for best effort? Maybe. Likely, in a game like this where she's gleefully punishing petty infractions? Nah.
As for B), how exactly is he supposed to make a limerick with imgs and gifs? If GreyICE's slot had randed that event (or really any future PR) they would be incompatible at a design level.
PE: At this point, I'm beginning to suspect that Katsuki is a some sort of Lyncher variety.
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A) I already included that detailIn post 268, Katsuki wrote:OH I LEFT OUT THE MOST IMPORTANT DETAIL IN THAT WHOEVER HAS THE BLACK KEY LOSES THE GAME
SO UNLESS YOU GUYS WANT TO BE THAT PERSON WHO LOSES, YOU GUYS CAN JUST CUT DOWN PINE THE HOLDER OF THE BLACK KEY
HEBI/SKY CAN PROBABLY BACK ME UP ON THIS
B) You're leaving out the actual important detail that the black key gets willed along like the rest (as far as my reading of its description goes)"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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The lyncher is the third party, Maria. Kats claimed it.
Blushing!Taking the flapless thing into account I still don't mind Pine getting voted but I value him as a player enough to let him play the game a bit more.
I concur.Gamma is town btw. Don't ask why at the moment it's in no ones best interest to know why."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I'm not performing.
Think about it from my perspective for a sec - I got a really large, serious wagon on me for a bullshit (but kinda valid) reason right out of the gate. I was excited for a funky game with people I like, but then get practically policy lynched. That hurt, and I did take it personally. Ever since I've been trying to recover and get to work, but it's not easy.
I actually think GreyICE is faking his restriction. I don't know why, but Occam's says "for lulz"
I do actually think Kats is a Lyncher. It's by far the best explanation for his behavior, and has literally (not figuratively) done absolutely nothing so far but attack me, despite having the fourth highest post total. I think he's ballsy enough to claim it, thinking he won't be taken seriously. This is bastard mod, remember? With explicit third party? Lyncher satisfies that."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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What's really frustrating me is that "nuh-uh" is an invalid defense to the assertion you're making about my choices here.
I actually do enjoy playing Town once in a while, and thought that picking scum would be suicidal.
Guess that concern was right."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I didn't think they'd be this intense...reputation or not, my actual preference for scum is pretty mild. I did think it would help me enjoy the game a bit more - I'm gearing up for the third installment of the Revenge series, and I don't need that "hunted by competent people" stress in my life, especially during camp season.
I'm actually rather shook that a WIFOM argument like "Pine always chooses scum" is holding water with people this experienced. That's why I smell a rat.
Also, I somehow have the black key again, despite the rules of it suggesting that Alisae should have it. Someone's using shenanigans to move it around. I'm going to hold onto it for a bit, because I'm not a dick.
Implosion, do me a favor. Throw out the "Lynchers don't exist" preconception you have, and ISO Katsuki. Show me one post - just one - which doesn't fit a Lyncher."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Quote things like an adult.
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312 in response to this.In post 310, Katsuki wrote:YOU'RE NOT SCUM BECAUSE OF YOUR INCLINATION TO PICK SCUM
YOU'RE SCUM BECAUSE OF THIS"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Sorry, wrong button. In response to this.In post 309, implosion wrote:did you think picking town would save you from the onslaught of "pine will definitely pick scum" arguments?"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Let me rephrase
Show me any Katsuki post where he does anything a non-Lyncher Town scumhunter would do.
PE: Of course there is. I've gone after several people so far. That's inconsistent with a Lyncher. Katsuki HASN'T"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I didn't. It took me a while to get there.
If Katsuki had been pursuing a couple of targets and not looking at possible Town or w/e, I'd say scum.
We're in a flagged-as-bastard game with acknowledged third party, and Katsuki HAS NOT posted ANYTHING except attacks on me and deflections about himself. Nothing. Not one single opinion about anyone or anything else. No setup spec, no scumhunting, no Townreading, not even any banter. Single-minded attacking of a single target, plus unprompted and repeated claiming of Lyncher.
Any other game or situation, I'd agree with you. In this game, Lyncher isn't only possible, but actually kind of likely."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Yeah? Who’s scum, then? So far I just clock PlumIn post 327, Katsuki wrote:The funny thing is that I've been scumhunting this entire time, my genius lies in my ability to scumhunt without anyone being able to tell."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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This fucking game
I pick Town ONCE and get lynched for it
Let’s see, last minute reads
I have a gut feeling that {Skygazer, Alisae} contains 1 scum
Grats to Lyncher Katsuki
Kuribo and implosion are probably Town
Plum still scum
Take a good long look at Maria, I think she bailed on my wagon when she thought it would look bad later to be on it
Umm everyone else idk and don’t give a shit
Hopefully I’m reading this wrong and can save everyone else from the black key"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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No, implosion
I was put to L-2 before there was any meaningful content on the board at ALL, specifically for meta reasons. They weren’t even RVS votes. Then when I panic a little, I get a lyncher jumping down my throat, Ali memeing at me, and everything I said got ignored
The 2/3 OMGUS scumread? I voted Plum first. Plum’s vote was after mine. If anything, you’ve got it backwards.
This felt personal. I tried to tell myself “Dude, they’re afraid of the awesome might of your scumgame,” but bullshit. This had nothing to do with my play here. The last couple of votes, maybe, but the bulk of the wagon was advertised as a meta policy lynch. “Pine chooses scum here every time”
No I fucking don’t. I like having my reputation, but lately it’s made actually playing the game really hard, because I get reverse-BOP’ed in every damn game.
It’s really bothering me, because while I get that there’s some merit to the initial suspicion, I’m not really being given any kind of fair shake"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Nah, fuck youIn post 359, Alisae wrote:In post 351, implosion wrote:doesn't town!pine at least like, claim here or something. it's a no-flip game. you gotta give us something to work with if you're actually town."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Sorry, I don’t mean to make it personal
I get that it’s probably not
But it feels like it is
I’ll stfu
My role name is Cockatrice (because they’re cool). I was a bit JOAT-like, but...not? 3-shot reflexive immunity to events targeting me, 2-shot make someone drop a key"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
Act 3, Scene 1 ofJulius Caesar, by W. Shakespeare-
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Pine In Your Head
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