Silent Star 1: Lunacy

[Dunnstral]

You'd think if mafia got both of their partners killed they'd know they were doing today, though. They had an entire night to discuss things - why would the pairings change things?

Also, if you're right, who does that imply as scum? Tux?

[Dunnstral]

I'm a power over versatility kind of person, it makes more sense to me to decide on what you're claiming during the night phase

[Dunnstral]

AS to what nahdia would do... I don't know, it makes sense to me, it can go either way I think

[Dunnstral]

Unless they're lying about being in the same pt

But if they really are in the same pt, I'd guess that Tux is a wolf

[Dunnstral]

Star likely thought she was anti-town when she made that list

[Dunnstral]

drusilla - clover ebi
nahdia - tuxedo mask
morning tweet - kanna
dunnstral - beeboy
skitter - raven branwen
midwaybear

yes?

[Dunnstral]

Star likely thought she was anti-town when she made that list

Anyone on that list you think isn’t likely to be town?

Clover Ebi

[Dunnstral]

@Drusilla, what are you reads outside of yesterday positioning Bee/Kanna/Skitter as the scumteam?

Again, they thought they were anti-town yesterday

[Dunnstral]

Star likely thought she was anti-town when she made that list

Anyone on that list you think isn’t likely to be town?

Clover Ebi

Why?

Their posting doesn't feel like it's changed from day 1

Like they went scum -> scum
instead of scum -> town

And they're pushing Beeboy/Me as a group of 2 and thepush feels fake

And interactions with their own partner looks bad

And their general reactions to events, like "let's leave both of the cops alive", is really bad. They don't seem surprised that they're actually town

[Dunnstral]

Why did the scum team run into the watcher target without roleblocking the watcher?

[Dunnstral]

This game is too powerful given every claim can be swapped with your neighbor, boiling every single kill down to a 50/50 outside the original watcher Starbuck.

If I were mafia I'd be inclined to shoot MT instead of Kanna

Not sure what weight that holds

[Dunnstral]

Why does the scum not have a roleblocker in the.

Cop + Watcher
Bodygaurd + Bodygaurd
+ Other mystery role setup.

Did this sites peprception of balance change while I was gone?

^^^

[Dunnstral]

I don't get how any of Skitter/Beeboy/Dunnstral have the pov they're trying to present with the logic that is on the table. I should probably mull on it a little

sorry :/ what part is confusing and i can try to explain how i came to my conclusions agian

If Chara flips scum who are you likely looking at
Same if they flip town please. This has a point to it I promise

If they flip town it's you or druisilla. The latter being much more likely due to power role

If they flip mafia it's not me, beeboy, mt, probably not skitter, we can work from there, anyone else?

I don't get beeboy saying it's mt because wouldn't mt shoot their cop partner night 1? That's the simplest answer

[Dunnstral]

How the heck does town get a bodyguard, watcher, cop, and a backup for those?

But whatever-- we tried to cop Chara, obviously. Sad times.

Did Kanna submit her action before the deadline changed?

[Dunnstral]

Still kind of weird they shot Kanna. I almost feel like more experienced players would have shot me -- unless I'm crazy ?

That's what I said earlier, I'd be inclined to shoot at you instead of Kanna and Beeboy was talking to me about that, but I don't think that holds a lot of weight

[Dunnstral]

I'm ready for the day to end by the way

What's the vote at, e-2 or e-1?

[Dunnstral]

I'll let somebody else hammer so I don't get yelled at

[Dunnstral]

If they flip town it's you or druisilla. The latter being much more likely due to power role

If they flip mafia it's not me, beeboy, mt, probably not skitter, we can work from there, anyone else?

so what you're saying is if chara is a werewolf it is me or clover ebi and if chara is mafia it is me or clover ebi or raven branwen or midwaybear?

Kind of but I have to think on that more

I think it was beeboy who said that chara was dead anyway and then MT claims that Kanna was targettign Chara

I have a tinfoil theory that the night deadline changing was part of a mafia role and they learned who Kanna was targetting

[Dunnstral]

People can lie about claim
Scum can forget to submit kills.

A faction that can't kill is just do incredibly bizarre to me I don't want to look for it
Chara wanted to self that is an act to cut off info that is anti wincon.

So you think scum just gave up? That’s I suppose possible but my working theory is last scum is amongst the pairs and and NK one of the pairs could conceivably townfirm the other.

Dunn didn’t include me in his town list and if it wasn’t an oversight and he’s figured out my main, I’d definitely be suspicious of that because he hasn’t incorrectly read me since the very first game we played on this site.

We thought you were our partner night 1

[Dunnstral]

Looking back Beeboy thought Raven and Starbuck were together, then when Starbuck flipped wolf we thought Raven may have been with us as well

[Dunnstral]

Clover is this pr thing based off beeboy claiming that we're not both vt?

[Dunnstral]

The pr we have doesn't make sense as 3rd mafia's power

[Dunnstral]

The pr we have doesn't make sense as 3rd mafia's power

The pr we have doesn't make sense as 3rd mafia's power

does either make sense as a non-mafia no-nightkill third party power?

What is the win condition of this third party? I'd argue "probably not"

[Dunnstral]

I'm pretty sure, at least

[Dunnstral]

Beeboy is getting paranoid, I'm sure

[Dunnstral]

Drusilla.

Yesterday beeboy said that we were already going to kill Chara regardless of the guilty and I agree with that

Clover, I haven't thought you were mafia for a while

[Dunnstral]

Oh I get it

Mafia can have a roleblocker and they tried to block Druisilla, but Clover was the watcher

[Dunnstral]

hopefully I am wrong and Dunn is in some kill-less faction.

I think this is a particularly weak reason to suspect me

[Dunnstral]

If there is a kill-less faction, then it's not more likely to be me than anyone else who "didn't kill their pr partner"

[Dunnstral]

The problem with this game is that day 1 I thought I was scum, then days 2 and 3 there was instantly a guilty outed, and now clover is saying I haven't done anything, like wow!

[Dunnstral]

The problem with this game is that day 1 I thought I was scum, then days 2 and 3 there was instantly a guilty outed, and now clover is saying I haven't done anything, like wow!

[Dunnstral]

If we consider that the last anti-town player(s) aren't mafia, but are instead a different faction, how does our view on the game change?

Don't say it's me and beeboy

[Dunnstral]

@Morning Tweet

Why didn't you and Kanna roleswap? That is, why didn't you claim the alignment cop? Or did Kanna not give you a chance for that?

[Dunnstral]

I don't think it was complicated analysis and wasn't Dunnstral the one who pointed out the hard evidence that Watcher - Bodyguard couldn't be paired together reasonably?

I may have done so in our pt

[Dunnstral]

I at least said that bodyguard and watcher was a powerful combo which shows that I was aware of it

[Dunnstral]

The fire burns a deep red colour, the knight nods and says that the ritual is now complete. Spoiler: [/spoiler] The mayor says that the curse of lunacy has yet to be completely removed, and that it is a tragedy for the townspeople to remain as werewolves for their whole lives. He thinks he's figured out a way to reverse the curse of lunacy, but he'll need a few brave volunteers to help him test it out. He claims that he can even do something about their amnesia, returning the werewolves back into the people they used to be..͘

Do you guys think this flavor is important?

Like, maybe wolves are being "cured" but they're turning back into mafia in a sort of cult twist

[Dunnstral]

You know it would make Dunn super suspicious if you didn’t hard defend him

What does this mean? Are you saying we're both scum?

[Dunnstral]

Why does that make them scum?

[Dunnstral]

I think Tux/Me/Nahdia wasn't scum theater and I am not sure how you guys can see other.

can you give me a refresher and/or quote the beginning of this

>Tux "your shit post SoD is scum"
>Me "your read sucks on me"
>Nahdia "you're over reacting to this and are scum"
>Me *backs off*
>Tux *keeps going*
>Me *vote parks nahdia for half the day*

It went on for awhile weaved between other posts. Idk I don't think I can fake that as scum.

weren't we talking about possibly voting them too? Because it was like, they were pushing you. But I wasn't reading the game closely at all at that time

[Dunnstral]

They target the same person?
Confirming the town that got shot all while getting a guilty.
Scum then need to kill the watcher leaving the conf town alive for an extra day.

It's not something that is supposed to be in a game together.

More importantly, they target each other

[Dunnstral]

beeboy can you answer this y/n:
you're claiming that you/dunn were not responsible for the missing nk

actually can everyone say this, including:
-midway
- clover
- dunn
- beeboy
- mt

i just want to rule out this possibility definitively before moving on to other things

(me/raven already claimed vt)

We don't have the power to stop the nk

[Dunnstral]

Lunch break is about to be over but the reason I doubt the 2 town theory is because Tux/Chara basically threw the game by visiting Kanna last night and then the self hammer thing. I just, doubt that a team of 2 does that?

Why does a team of 3 do that?

[Dunnstral]

Why did you wait until post 7 to claim your role?

asked our glorious moderator if i was allowed to copy paste it, was told no. made a hello post, compiled songs, clover ebi made three posts, i replied to one of them, then i claimed and ask his role.

Why would you think you wouldn't be able to paste your role pm in your pt?

[Dunnstral]

I do not think it's extremely unreasonable to consider that there may be a second scumteam without a kill. However, it is arguably less likely. What would their flavour be, I wonder?

Vampires? Maybe they're a cult and they turn other people into vampires.

I don't think a cult in this game would be balanced, Vampires fits the lovecraft theme this game has though

[Dunnstral]

So @Dunn, what is your current beeboy read?

Werewolf

[Dunnstral]

But the game also collapses on him if he is scum and uses a NA each night, he literally had to kill me and change his claim in order to win.
And that just isn't happening.

^ If I were mafia I'd probably do this

The fact that there was no kill means:
1) werewolves blocked the kill (which we can confirm didn't happen)
2) somebody nokilled (and it's probably not me since I'd have a reason to kill beeboy fast last night)
3) remaining scum can't kill

[Dunnstral]

So @Dunn, what is your current beeboy read?

Werewolf

Why do you think he’s doubting you as ww?

Because everyone else is towny and he's paranoid about town power mixed with my claim

[Dunnstral]

I don't really believe in the extra scumteam theory too much and could reasonably see a scum!Dru try to get raven/skitts or beeboy/dunn exiles by no-killing and pushing that theory.

Also this isn't something I go for because focus goes onto me + beeboy

[Dunnstral]

I am a VT, Dunnstral is a PR.

... didn't you both claim pr?

pedit the thoguht did cross my mind that midway might be like a 3p something and that we're kinda handing him a tr too easily

No he never said that

I think it was Raven who said 'so you're both pr?' and it was never corrected

[Dunnstral]

I am a werewolf lone wolf.

weird role name

[Dunnstral]

but i think that mafia just literally doesn't claim in post 1 tho ... ?
like look how nahdia answered the question and they weren't even talking about their own pt

I claimed in post 1

[Dunnstral]

Skitter how do scum beat follow the cop?
You can't answer this question because they literally can't without a way to stop a PR.

ok i concede the point that a rb could exist
i do not agree that it's dru tho

So who did the roleblocker target on night 2? Clover?

[Dunnstral]

Sure, I'm a detective

I check if somebody performs a kill the current night or the previous night

n1 Raven
n2 Clover
n3 Skitter

None of them performed a kill

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: drusilla

I think the watcher was a fake claim

[Dunnstral]

I thought I was scum n1

I told you we thought you were our partner

[Dunnstral]

You can see that I stopped calling Clover scum on day 3

[Dunnstral]

But it to some degree would show he thought he was a WW that could use that PT for actions

My action counted

[Dunnstral]

One of the theories I had with the night flavor is that people who were previously werewolves days 1/2 would start turning into mafia, until there was a team of 4 mafia

So the game would have started with 2 mafia, and then 2 more people would be 'infected', or by the flavor 'have their amnesia removed'

That would explain the missing kill last night, I don't know if the game wouldn't just end if all the mafia died though

[Dunnstral]

On the other side of speculation, something happening to people that hammer doesn't seem very likely to me

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

Well it's not me + beeboy

[Dunnstral]

One of the theories I had with the night flavor is that people who were previously werewolves days 1/2 would start turning into mafia, until there was a team of 4 mafia

So the game would have started with 2 mafia, and then 2 more people would be 'infected', or by the flavor 'have their amnesia removed'

That would explain the missing kill last night, I don't know if the game wouldn't just end if all the mafia died though

This game wasn’t advertised as bastard though.

We're all werewolves and there was mafia in werewolf pts

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

Well it's not me + beeboy

like, if we're dealing with a 2 man non-mafia team, that's probably what it'd have to be. Right? So i can't really accept that there isnt more mafia cause i dont think beeboy/Dunn is the case

Why can't they be in other pts like the mafia were

And if that's the case people who were in pts with power roles aren't necessarily clear

[Dunnstral]

That's what we thought we were at the start

[Dunnstral]

I'm confused, what are we talking about?

[Dunnstral]

If mafia knew Kanna was a cop night 1, they'd have just killed Kanna

I don't buy that lilith as bodyguard on night 1 would target someone randomly when she thinks she is scum

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: drusilla

[Dunnstral]

And I just see the Dru world very clearly.

okay when you learn i am a werewolf, then what? is the plan to fall on your sword since you are wrong? how is that beneficial?

Actually I believe the plan is to kill me

Beeboy doesn't need to die

[Dunnstral]

Who is scum then

[Dunnstral]

I literally know full well me redeclaring that vote gets me killed.
And also mislynches Dru.


But winning because I misrepresented the game state makes me feel even worse.

If it makes you feel better, last time you voted for the mod your vote didn't move from where you currently were voting

So you were already voting dru

[Dunnstral]

tonight is night 4

Unless the game ends . . .

[Dunnstral]

Unless the game ends . . .

would you like to place odds on this?

If you've truly been hammered (I haven't checked) then this probably doesn't end the game based on your reaction

[Dunnstral]

Idk what to do now :|

we can awkwardly talk in our factional pt during the 48 hour night phase if you'd like

[Dunnstral]

I'll tell beeboy who I'm checking, I'm not announcing it in the main thread beforehand

[Dunnstral]

just check beeboy

I hard tr him so no

[Dunnstral]

beeboy, what's your role?

Why does it matter

[Dunnstral]

dru is dead

[Dunnstral]

You guys think Nahdia would try to bus? that was a pretty serious wagon if i recall correctly

What if they were with Starbuck in the wolf factional thing

And voting Starbuck would have outted them

[Dunnstral]

You're right that they didn't need to vote Midway though

[Dunnstral]

Dunnstral surviving is basically a scum play.
But we might as well no lynch once in the off chance we are seeing a gambit.

It's not me

Midway didn't kill, according to my result

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: no pressure

[Dunnstral]

Well it doesn't matter who they kill we're all VTs

That's not true though, since I'm town

[Dunnstral]

I'm pretty sure Clover is the maf......

[Dunnstral]

I don't know MT

[Dunnstral]

If Dunn votes Clover I'm locking Dunn as scum

I already voted to no pressure

[Dunnstral]

Raven you do understand that if Dunn claims an incorrect result that you have to kill him right?
That's like the only thing me and MT are worried about tbh.

Yea basically

I'm guessing Dunn claims an innocent on Beeboy tomorrow. You can get rid of Clover first, but you HAVE to kill Dunn after that if it doesn't end the game. Do not let Dunn get away with a fake guilty or fake inno

What? I wasn't planning on checking bee

[Dunnstral]

Clover not submitting a kill n2 means literally nothing.
We know Tux submitted the kill n2?

It's not an inno.

That is correct, except it also means they didn't kill n1

[Dunnstral]

Yeah Raven Branwen didn't make the kill, so you can bump-off me then Clover

VOTE: Dunnstral

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE: Dunnstral

In case there's somehow two scum left

[Dunnstral]

Godfather doesn't change how my role works

[Dunnstral]

Also if I die you still end up dead Clover

[Dunnstral]

Yeah Raven Branwen didn't make the kill, so you can bump-off me then Clover

VOTE: Dunnstral

Why didn’t you check Clover? :facepalm:

I'm playing to the worst case scenario instead of the best case scenario

Best case scenario is clover is scum, and I do believe clover gets eliminated regardless

Worst case scenario is you were scum, and I believe you could have beaten Beeboy in limlo

[Dunnstral]

If you're town I don't see how scum doesn't have a role to avoid you/the watcher. Do you really believe I'm a mafia goon who just decided to leave you alive? I'm willing to listen if you think that's the case but uh, I don't see it :giggle:

If you're mafia and you killed me last night, that means MT is still alive, midway is cleared, etc. Then it's just you, beeboy, Raven. And you surely get eliminated there.

[Dunnstral]

@Dunn. refresh me how your role works again. When you check someone, is it just for that night or all nights preceding it?

It would have made a lot more sense to check bee over me, since I had 0 reason to ever kill Skitter but I don’t understand why you wouldn’t check Clover?

@bee help me out here.

It's for the current night and the previous night

[Dunnstral]

@Dunn. refresh me how your role works again. When you check someone, is it just for that night or all nights preceding it?

It would have made a lot more sense to check bee over me, since I had 0 reason to ever kill Skitter but I don’t understand why you wouldn’t check Clover?

@bee help me out here.

Well I'm in a pt with Bee and don't think it's him, which is why I checked you instead - I didn't really think it was you over clover, but as I explained, I'm playing to the worst case scenario today

[Dunnstral]

What last scum just lets a cop number 2 live?

Well this one did

[Dunnstral]

What way would scum have to avoid my role?

[Dunnstral]

It's really scummy that Clover is arguing this btw, because I will flip town, and they will have to try to get an elimination on somebody else

[Dunnstral]

oof

Get Clover tomorrow because this fast talk is designed for when I flip town

[Dunnstral]

hmmm
idk I guess I could just lynch Dunn.

If the game has 2 scum then whatever?

Who are the 2 scum if I'm town......

[Dunnstral]

replace town with wolf you know what I mean

[Dunnstral]

3389 is you saying you don't mind losing by voting me out if there's still 2 scum alive - is what I'm getting at here

[Dunnstral]

On review I don't see why Dunn waited until the night phase to talk about checking Raven.

Because I was responding to something you said

[Dunnstral]

On review I don't see why Dunn waited until the night phase to talk about checking Raven.

Because I was responding to something you said

I meant just using the day thread for it.

I was responding to something you said during the night is what I meant

[Dunnstral]

Who was arguing that nokill = Dru scum?

[Dunnstral]

(I honestly don't remember, it may have even been me)

[Dunnstral]

Why does scum!Dunn no kill?

If I were scum I'd have killed beeboy and changed my claim

[Dunnstral]

Because the other option is to try to win with this claim as scum which makes things so much harder?

[Dunnstral]

I don't really believe in the extra scumteam theory too much and could reasonably see a scum!Dru try to get raven/skitts or beeboy/dunn exiles by no-killing and pushing that theory.

Found it

[Dunnstral]

Well, you're dying today or tomorrow, whether you mind or not

[Dunnstral]

mwb and bee are still alive though

[Dunnstral]

The question you need to ask if you think Dunnstral isn't mafia is why does the last scum put themselves in a spot that would be nearly auto loss?

So what's the answer to this? Because this question doesn't exclude you

[Dunnstral]

Sorry not that question, the detective one

[Dunnstral]

Is a scum team that knows a detective is in the game. Who knew this at the time? Dunnstral and Beeboy.

Are you saying we're both scum?

[Dunnstral]

Not really? It still results in Clover being killed, even if that happens after me

Wheras if I don't check you, and you're mafia, you probably run away with the game, beating beeboy

[Dunnstral]

So even if you eliminate me today, I need you and midway to be on the same page with clover

[Dunnstral]

You don't find this odd or strange?

I do, but what am I supposed to do about it?

[Dunnstral]

The question you need to ask if you think Dunnstral isn't mafia is why does the last scum put themselves in a spot that would be nearly auto loss?

So what's the answer to this? Because this question doesn't exclude you

You tell me. You don't find this odd or strange? No questions about it at all? The fact you're being so narrowed minded about this makes me want to believe you less and less.

Is a scum team that knows a detective is in the game. Who knew this at the time? Dunnstral and Beeboy.

Are you saying we're both scum?

No? How'd you get that?

So are you pushing beeboy right now or what

If I flip wolf detective what does that mean

[Dunnstral]

I can't see into your pt so I wouldn't know though
Obv you aren't scum but if you were and Skitter changed her opinion in the pt maybe then you'd kill her

What do you think I should have done? If I checked Clover and by chance he was town this would have been a much worse situation deciding between you and beeboy

[Dunnstral]

If you flipped werewolf I would vote Midway

But he's clear

[Dunnstral]

I haven't pushed beeboy once so I have no idea what narrative you're trying to make up right now.

Because you said scum would have some way to avoid my check, t hen mentioned the only people who knew who I was checking would be me or beeboy, i thought you were implying something there

[Dunnstral]

Town pov all game and in my pt, IMO, and his reactions after the reveal in thread and pt, and his reactions the day after that - day 3 I think

[Dunnstral]

Clover you realize you won't be voting out midway tomorrow...

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Clover Ebi

[Dunnstral]

1) He needs beeboy as a ML down the line.

I needed beeboy specifically all the way back on day 3?

[Dunnstral]

What do you mean? I don't think we lost anything by no eliminating yesterday

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

@Dunn, you say you were worried about scum!me basically wiping the floor with bee as your reason for checking me but why not get a result on Clover?

God, I’m starting to think I was played brilliantly by scum!Dunn now. :oops:

Because Clover always gets eliminated over beeboy in my mind

[Dunnstral]

Also, why investigate me over MT?

MT was with the alignment cop who checked a member of the mafia, there was no way I was suspecting there

[Dunnstral]

Do what you must, just eliminate Clover tomorrow

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

@Dunn, you say you were worried about scum!me basically wiping the floor with bee as your reason for checking me but why not get a result on Clover?

God, I’m starting to think I was played brilliantly by scum!Dunn now. :oops:

Because Clover always gets eliminated over beeboy in my mind

If Clover is scum and you had a guilty on him, we freaking win the game, wtf kind of argument is this even?

But if he's not scum, and I check him we probably lose

That's why I checked you

[Dunnstral]

Raven & Midway

Are you guys going to vote clover tomorrow or what

[Dunnstral]

He won't be able to answer that

[Dunnstral]

B) Because without it we would've lynched Dunnstral much sooner.

How is it odd to claim post 1 in your pt that people are assuming is werewolf? Not claiming post 1 would've been a lot stranger than if he didn't.

These are conflicting statements

[Dunnstral]

Dunnstral wasn't probably going to try and live forever. Combine that with the fact if he's scum I bet it was a fake claim then you have your answer

Really? Scum me gets a fake claim of Detective in this game?

[Dunnstral]

You could ask why does scum claim detective but as I said, Dunnstral wasn't probably going to try and live forever.

Also what a lame argument

I simultaneously claimed to live longer but claimed Detective because I wasn't planning on living forever

[Dunnstral]

You could ask why does scum claim detective but as I said, Dunnstral wasn't probably going to try and live forever. Combine that with the fact if he's scum I bet it was a fake claim then you have your answer

well he fakeclaimed immediately to beeboy who was his PT buddy, so it's the early timing of the claim that is throwing me off here.

Well, it wasn't a fake claim...

[Dunnstral]

1: Explain how it's a conflicting statement for me.
2: Why are you assuming scum got fake claims? You could've just done that yourself
3: Why you made the claim and why you kept the claim are 2 different things. Although you should answer the full case and not cherry pick things you think you can defend

1) Because I claimed to avoid being eliminated, but it was also my first post in the game because I wasn't planning on living (why would I be playing in a way that makes me not live if I'm scum?)
2) You said it not me
3) Not sure what that means

[Dunnstral]

I'm responding to your bullet point list

[Dunnstral]

Also I responded to everything you posted anyway lol

[Dunnstral]

I didn't misrepresent my role though

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

@Dunn, you say you were worried about scum!me basically wiping the floor with bee as your reason for checking me but why not get a result on Clover?

God, I’m starting to think I was played brilliantly by scum!Dunn now. :oops:

Because Clover always gets eliminated over beeboy in my mind

If Clover is scum and you had a guilty on him, we freaking win the game, wtf kind of argument is this even?

But if he's not scum, and I check him we probably lose

That's why I checked you

Sorry not buying, this isn’t a townie thought. Why wouldn’t you think a Clover guilty wins us the game?

It does, but checking you should win the game as well if Clover is mafia

[Dunnstral]

Beeboy was being self-sacrificial and there wasn't a reason for that

[Dunnstral]

Tuxedo's push on beeboy does not clear nor convict him.

You’re missing the point. he’s slightly distancing Dunn here. How is that not obvious?

How? He didn't know we were grouped except for bee defending me

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@Dunn, you say you were worried about scum!me basically wiping the floor with bee as your reason for checking me but why not get a result on Clover?

God, I’m starting to think I was played brilliantly by scum!Dunn now. :oops:

Because Clover always gets eliminated over beeboy in my mind

If Clover is scum and you had a guilty on him, we freaking win the game, wtf kind of argument is this even?

But if he's not scum, and I check him we probably lose

That's why I checked you

Sorry not buying, this isn’t a townie thought. Why wouldn’t you think a Clover guilty wins us the game?

It does, but checking you should win the game as well if Clover is mafia

If Clove is mafia, what makes you think the game doesn’t end?

It does, but checking you should win the game as well if Clover is mafia

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Again, why invest me, since my tone change was the most freaking obvious. I think mine and Skittter’s were the most obvious.

It does, but checking you should win the game as well if Clover is mafia

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Why not?

IDK, I just wasn't reading a lot of the thread on day 1

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Raven, are you going to eliminate Clover tomorrow?

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What do you two plan to do tomorrow? Midway and Raven

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What was the reasoning for the no-kill? Did we solve that?

Wifom and I think I would have lost if I killed Beeboy and claimed another role that night