Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

[Alisae]

in 2017, this is a detail I often forget, I tied with MoI for Don Corleone

[Alisae]

ok so what happened to 420 blaze it and why has he still done nothing and why is he not getting any pressure?

I thought you were suspicious of anyone going after LHF?

-innocentvillager

How does that relate to my question?

[Alisae]

Idk, it seems to me you’ve been sussed by people going after LHF (you and Maria), and now you’re wondering why people aren’t going after 420, another LHF spot. So I’d like you to clarify where your head’s at on that a little.

-innocentvillager

I mean I can post reads sure, but I find it weird that me and maid cafe have been most of the talk in the town and 420 isn't. Like that reads weird to me.

[Alisae]

{Bell, Midway, Remilia, Muffin}
{Tunnels, SS, morph}
{Bulge}
{PlusJOYED, morph, Maid Cafe, 420 Blaze It}
{April}

Some changes, Bulge isn't really null anymore, I saw something that made me feel like he was town earlier but I don't remember what it is.
SS feels townier with his posts but he becomes a lot more readable late game.
morph is a slot I can't get myself to believe in a scumread in. Them driving the consensus to LHF is weird but thats the only thing I have and I feel like in general they are more likely to be town then not.

Maid Cafe's vote on me is really weird. If this slot was town, I don't see how they use this opportunity to explain their read. Also I'm not reading how they feel like the gamestate is stalled at all. Keep in mind I still think Maria's original read on me is fine.
Also btw Maria mentioned that Beebuddy is mostly a soundboard for Maria. I just noticed Maria say that upon re-reading that ISO because I wanted to know if they genuinely scumread me.
I can see Maria voting me "for information" as town but I want to see what they do now.
Honestly now that I'm writing about it, they can be higher then I'm putting them but let's see what they do after.

[Alisae]

{Bell, Midway, Remilia, Muffin}
{Tunnels, SS,

morph

}
{Bulge}
{PlusJOYED,

morph

, Maid Cafe, 420 Blaze It}
{April}

?

its intentional to so that I’m conflicted about your slot

[Alisae]

{Bell, Midway, Remilia, Muffin}
{Tunnels, SS,

morph

}
{Bulge}
{PlusJOYED,

morph

, Maid Cafe, 420 Blaze It}
{April}

?

We take it from your post that it should be the upper one but still a little confusing.

Also, talk to me about plusjoyed.

their readlists feel like they were made to tailor a certain agenda > trying to be right.

[Alisae]

Vote Count 1.9

Day One!

This name of this song is said to reference their favorite dealer but is considered to be somewhat prophetic of the problems the band had with drugs and how hard it was for many of them to kick their drug habit. It's said that member Steve Adler had almost 30 overdoses, 2 heart attacks, a stroke and a 4-day coma from excessive drug use.

420 Blaze It (4):

MariaR, plusJOYED, The Bulge, April Ludgate

Alisae (2):

420 Blaze It, Bell

plusJOYED (1):

Remilia Scarlet

secret tunnel (1):

midway bear

mariaR (1):

secret tunnel

Not Voting (4)

: zMuffinMan, Alisae, Something_Smart, morph the cat

With 13 alive it takes 7 to send to rehab.

Deadline:

Friday, October 2 at 12:00 pm.

Countdown:

(expired on 2020-10-02 12:00:00)

Let me know if there are any errors, etc.

Vote Count 1.10

Day One!

420 Blaze It (3):

MariaR, plusJOYED, The Bulge

morph the cat (2):

420 Blaze It, April Ludgate

Alisae (1):

Bell

plusJOYED (1):

Remilia Scarlet

secret tunnel (1):

midway bear

mariaR (1):

secret tunnel

Not Voting (4)

: zMuffinMan, Alisae, Something_Smart, morph the cat

With 13 alive it takes 7 to send to rehab.

Deadline:

Friday, October 2 at 12:00 pm.

Countdown:

(expired on 2020-10-02 12:00:00)

Let me know if there are any errors, etc.

btw I looked at these and I noticed that entirity of the 420 wagon joined my wagon at some point except for bulge and in the next vc april votes with 420 for some reason

[Alisae]

What's the agenda you think they're tailoring?

1639

town read: {Morph, bell}
townlean: {aliase, midway, SS}
weak townlean: {tunnels, april}
weak scumlean: {bulge}
scumlean: {remillia, maria}
scumread: {muffin, 420}

2927

town read: {Morph, bell}
townlean: {april, midway, SS}
weak townlean: {bulge}
weak scumlean: {ST, muffin}
scumlean: {remi, maria, aliase}
scumread: {420}

In general I feel like the read on me was TMI.
the scumreads just feel like what scum would have in this gamestate as well as just in general trying to stay consistent. His Muffin reads like scum trying to keep their scumread consistent.
He scumreads remilia, me, remilia, and 420 which seems weird to me and doesn't feel like he's trying to be correct.
I just feel like he's taking positions in this game that scum would take

[Alisae]

i typed remilia twice but let's pretend I wrote maria/maid cafe in there plz

[Alisae]

What's the agenda you think they're tailoring?

1639

town read: {Morph, bell}
townlean: {aliase, midway, SS}
weak townlean: {tunnels, april}
weak scumlean: {bulge}
scumlean: {remillia, maria}
scumread: {muffin, 420}

2927

town read: {Morph, bell}
townlean: {april, midway, SS}
weak townlean: {bulge}
weak scumlean: {ST, muffin}
scumlean: {remi, maria, aliase}
scumread: {420}

In general I feel like the read on me was TMI.
the scumreads just feel like what scum would have in this gamestate as well as just in general trying to stay consistent. His Muffin reads like scum trying to keep their scumread consistent.
He scumreads remilia, me, remilia, and 420 which seems weird to me and doesn't feel like he's trying to be correct.
I just feel like he's taking positions in this game that scum would take

The TMI read is the first one, where he explained why you were town?

Yeah he was the only person that really stood out who townread me for that catch up when everyone else didn't.

[Alisae]

What's the agenda you think they're tailoring?

1639

town read: {Morph, bell}
townlean: {aliase, midway, SS}
weak townlean: {tunnels, april}
weak scumlean: {bulge}
scumlean: {remillia, maria}
scumread: {muffin, 420}

2927

town read: {Morph, bell}
townlean: {april, midway, SS}
weak townlean: {bulge}
weak scumlean: {ST, muffin}
scumlean: {remi, maria, aliase}
scumread: {420}

In general I feel like the read on me was TMI.
the scumreads just feel like what scum would have in this gamestate as well as just in general trying to stay consistent. His Muffin reads like scum trying to keep their scumread consistent.
He scumreads remilia, me, remilia, and 420 which seems weird to me and doesn't feel like he's trying to be correct.
I just feel like he's taking positions in this game that scum would take

The TMI read is the first one, where he explained why you were town?

Yeah he was the only person that really stood out who townread me for that catch up when everyone else didn't.

He's got a few other contrarian reads. at least contrary to ~consensus~.

What does the remi read do for a scum-plusjoyed?

The remi read is probably just to stay consitent

[Alisae]

that reminds me, last night i wanted to ask alisae to remove the ! from that signature because it was interfering with me ctrl+fing "!"

done

[Alisae]

VOTE: Maid Cafe

whats up with saying im your only scumread then voting someone else?

whats wrong with the vote?

[Alisae]

VOTE: Maid Cafe

whats up with saying im your only scumread then voting someone else?

whats wrong with the vote?

i scumlean maid too it's just that those posts right next to each other seem odd to me

why

[Alisae]

VOTE: Maid Cafe

whats up with saying im your only scumread then voting someone else?

whats wrong with the vote?

i scumlean maid too it's just that those posts right next to each other seem odd to me

why

"x is my only scumread atm"
"anyway I'm voting for Y"
does that not sound weird to you?

no not really.

[Alisae]

that implies Remi is voting someone they don't SR the way it happened, which doesn't make any sense for town!remi to do.

it makes sense from town!Remi

[Alisae]

Let me ask, minus that claim how do you feel about them? I feel like it's NAI and I can go into more details on why if you wish.

how do you feel about them

[Alisae]

But I think there reads list shifting was very opportunistic as well.

How is this stronger then your meta read?

[Alisae]

I'll compromise on Maid cafe
VOTE: Maid Cafe

[Alisae]

{Bell, Midway, Remilia, Muffin}
{Tunnels, SS, morph}
{Bulge}
{PlusJOYED, morph, Maid Cafe, 420 Blaze It}
{April}

Some changes, Bulge isn't really null anymore, I saw something that made me feel like he was town earlier but I don't remember what it is.
SS feels townier with his posts but he becomes a lot more readable late game.
morph is a slot I can't get myself to believe in a scumread in. Them driving the consensus to LHF is weird but thats the only thing I have and I feel like in general they are more likely to be town then not.

Maid Cafe's vote on me is really weird. If this slot was town, I don't see how they use this opportunity to explain their read. Also I'm not reading how they feel like the gamestate is stalled at all. Keep in mind I still think Maria's original read on me is fine.
Also btw Maria mentioned that Beebuddy is mostly a soundboard for Maria. I just noticed Maria say that upon re-reading that ISO because I wanted to know if they genuinely scumread me.
I can see Maria voting me "for information" as town but I want to see what they do now.

Honestly now that I'm writing about it, they can be higher then I'm putting them but let's see what they do after.

??

what
im not getting joyed and im not getting april and we don't have that much time left and they haven't been doing much and also their scumread on me is weird so...

[Alisae]

You're giving me survivory hives alisae.

THE FUCK YOU WANT ME TO DO?

[Alisae]

In 3574, it was my snap judgment that alisae voting at that moment would probably kill momentum on the maid cafe wagon.

Ok I was reading "soured" as "less likely to hit scum now that alisae has chosen to get on it"

think we need to start over

I was not interpretting soured that way either
/shrug

[Alisae]

I don't love trying to characterize people's play when it isn't self described but I am getting a more apathetic vibe even in post 3853 feels more like a "whatever this sucks".

the post doesn't exist

[Alisae]

3853 doesn't exist this is post 3684

[Alisae]

oh yeah
i turn 22 in 10mins

[Alisae]

ty @SS and Bee/Maria Idunno whose posting atm and I think its bee but im stoned atm watching SAO Abridged the new episode came out a couple days ago and its so good and now I wanna rewatch the whole series again

[Alisae]

UNVOTE:

[Alisae]

Okay
I think I need to actually vote myself to just get a flip
so...
VOTE: Alisae

[Alisae]

Okay
I think I need to actually vote myself to just get a flip
so...
VOTE: Alisae

FWIW... we cool?

I'm not very good at holding grudges.

ya we're good

[Alisae]

Thanks alisae do you let us know if you’re scum or do you usually make us wait for he flip?

im town

[Alisae]

420 blaze it not getting as much attention as I got is weird

[Alisae]

Okay
I think I need to actually vote myself to just get a flip
so...
VOTE: Alisae

oh that's def hammer. i feel a lil bad eliming on your birthday

its fine

[Alisae]

@Alisae, sorry for self presing on you.
I thought you were town but I also think we both die anyway and town needs to readjust.

yeah at this point we just need to flip

[Alisae]

Why the fuck did we eliminate Alisae, did anyone seriously think they were that scummy??

I guess I didn’t really try today so I can’t talk, maybe I’ll put more effort into this D2.

-innocentvillager

I was eliminated because ywall couldn't organize another wagon on someone else and honestly its fine

[Alisae]

Bork why bus plus?

[Alisae]

Was hoping it died but i didnt feel i had anywhere else to g
i agree it wasnt my best move considering

It doesn’t really make that sense to me given the whole scumteam in general was in a really good position on D1. It just seemed like you had to give up ground for no reason? I’m sure I feel like there was somewhere you could go.

[Alisae]

Like by bussing you give up ground and put a lot of pressure on yourself to carry and while ik some scumplayers can deepwolf and handle that pressure, I definitely can’t and I would prefer to have a team around me to be able to make up for my weaknesses. I’d imagine its significantly easier in general to have a team to work with then to put all of the pressure on yourself to carry.

[Alisae]

Okay no worries.
I was just wondering why you made the play thats all

[Alisae]

Bork in general I feel like you played a good game and had I been alive for longer you would have pocketted me for a longer period of time