3d20 – The Great Board Game War [GAME OVER]

[Gamma Emerald]

Sup fools
I’ll read in a bit probably

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VOTE: cyrus
Scumclaim.

How
He kinda feels town rn

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Why does it feel like Cakez is focusing on cult hunting maybe too much

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also why can't cyrus be VT
it's statistically unlikely yes but he could be the "lone VT in role madness"

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okay
I guess my main question is "why the focus on the cult?" Based on the setup details I guess the cult could end up being quite powerful if allowed any traction but idk what exactly dictated the stuff that happened with the role rand

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Gamma do you know what your predecessor's dice roll was? Did Cook send it to you?

I wasn't sent it but I did read it

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okay
I guess my main question is "why the focus on the cult?" Based on the setup details I guess the cult could end up being quite powerful if allowed any traction but idk what exactly dictated the stuff that happened with the role rand

I mean, no cult limit, possible double or multitasking (or both!) cult leader, and only 13 players with mafia also around to cut down numbers? Getting cult early seems like a good idea to me. If we can't get CL, I will gladly go for partnered scum, but I know where my priority lies.

yeah this makes sense
do we have any leads to who it is or anything?

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chance of being VT: 3/5 (12 out of 20 chance to be town) * 1/20 (Vanilla only has one slot) * ~3/4 (the only ones with a chance to change it are the miller-types, as well as if reroll twice rolls a miller-type) = ~9/400
the chance is small but it exists

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VOTE: cakez
my head hurts rn so I'm just gonna go with what pinged me earlier, and maybe I'll be able to actually look at this game for real at some later point

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do you not feel cyrus is doing the same, or is it different when it comes from him?

I wasn't entirely aware cyrus was doing it but I feel like his is probably different

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are most of cyrus' posts fluff
because it immediately strikes me he has near double the amount of posts as the second highest poster

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yeah just doing a ctrl+f of the word "cult" in cyrus' ISO I don't think he's ringing the same bell cakez's posting did

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why is james getting voted? I played with him before and he did some really weird shit and kinda became obvtown because of one of the weird things he did
so like, I'm not inclined to just nod along to people calling james scum unless theres legitimate reason

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what does "off the list" mean? what is this list?

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I don't think people are gonna join me on redtea before deadline.
VOTE: Thor
Is there a world where a no lim makes sense? Do we think odds of hitting scum/cult today is >50%? With such a high amount of PRs I'm wondering if it ever makes sense to avoid a mislim today and come in tomorrow with a bunch of results to play off of

Why redtea? He feels maybe-town

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What are the other examples of redtea meta reads this game? Based how you explained it it’s happened a few times up to now

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Okay nah I don’t think that’s entirely genuine from redtea
The Cyrus case feels a bit like trying to fit cyrus’ play into the mold redtea want it to fit in
VOTE: Redtea

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The first post in that spoiler is probably the biggest red flag by being vague conclusions with little backing evidence

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no, but tbh he strikes me as perhaps similar to The Other Thor

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sure m8

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It's cause I always roll town.

bruh my last game together u were scum lol
btw i'm not going to be using meta here because its been a lil while and I don't remember it that well after such a busy summer

If this was Titus I would be locktowning her for this

why?

It's taking an obvious joke and shading someone for it.

didn't read like a joke to me at all

V/LA until Sunday

I'll try to do a catch up tomorrow though. Realize I'm several pages behind

How long does it take to read 9 pages?

if you're not skimming, it can take 15-20 mins. at least for me.

@sircakez

talk about your kyouko read a little more?

their posting feels really manufactured and LAMIST-y
like it's not genuine, just going through the motions

jamesthenames: probably scum, but could be improved town
cyrus: scum

how are you reconciling this considering James is tunneling cyrus?

I lied about not using meta. I do remember that Hunter played a really...interesting game as town in a game I modded he is definitely limbait. not really eager to go there rn.
I don't think Cyrus is scum. at least definitely not cult and I want to get the cult today. so not interested in a vote there either.
tbh still think ssbm is the scummiest person and could definitely be cult.
either them or someone who isn't posting a lot.
dwlee is being kinda useless it could be them tbh
we could also just PL Thor for 290 lol

Can someone ELI5 why Roberts roll claim makes him scum

Can someone ELI5 why Roberts roll claim makes him scum

It's a low chance that he rolls the same role that Thor did. Far more likely he lied about what he rolled and to avoid getting caught outright later on, he stole someone else's roll (Thor's) so it would be a 1v1 at worst. If RMH had claimed before Thor I'd be saying the same thing about Thor rn, in reverse.

Odds of rolling the exact same role seem lower than the odds of him being scum trying to hide what he really rolled (possibly a decent scum PR that one of his buddies or he ended up with)

ok I can see this argument

VOTE: RMH

ngl this progression on robert feels pretty bad as well
I'll admit my read rate of cakez hasn't been the greatest but I feel like I'm tuning into the right signal by choosing to follow my scum feelings on him

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I'd be down with voting Thor, James, or Cyrus if any of those end up being the only viable lims; I'm assuming I'm off about the no lim thing but I'm interested to hear what people think about it.

Cyrus claiming VT makes that a fine alternate to the no lim because he's either lying or we don't have to worry about limming a PR

Oh on ISO I realized MegA basically didn't post anything I think I confused their posts for someone else. Basically null then.
But Gamma is scummy anyways.

-_-

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VOTE: cakez

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What's wrong with my Robert progression?

feels like your initial townfeels on him or whatever caused you to resist were just for show

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still doesn't feel right
I'm trying to listen to my gut more and my gut is telling me you're scum

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hold on

what

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3) We don't know if there's a mafia or werewolf recruiter as well as a cult one, what is he talking about?

I may be missing something but I think there's no chance of a mafia recruiter by the setup?

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I hate this game. It's like no one can even see my posts and doesn't care to comment on anything I'm saying. Good job sorting and reading me by just ignoring all of my posts. Dragon of the West annoys me a lot

I'm the Town Paranoid Gun Owner

I've been trying to get myself recruited or targeted by scum so that they would die when they visited me

You make a big deal of how annoyed you are
Who do you think is

scum

?

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In a word: gut.

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Mine

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Cakes screams of cult gamma is rght

Idk about screaming cult but I did get a feeling he was cult thinking over some of what he’d done

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If there is a cult it isn't gamma

There is no if it was rolled.

what is this trying to say

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okay

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way to go on the pagetop, me

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if you give my meta a skim, you'll see I spoiler shit all the time to avoid clogging up threads- like linking posts.
I've been doing it since 2015. Letting Dragon do all this heavy-lifting for you is A Sign.

This is such a shitty dodge of the actual thing I was saying

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Okay redtea is town

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Gamma, it's been said seems like he comes into the game with an agenda to push Cakez. James and Gamma can be partnered easily as well. I feel like RMH is definitely town but probably wrong. He seems to be trying though. Marashu, I've been TRing and I see he didnt really see Cakez as scum, let alone cult, so I hope by consolidating on James I can pull you and possibly Robert over. I get the feeling those votes are more out of a fear of no limming rather than an actual desire to eliminate cakez.

If I'm wrong though, convince me. I'll be around, and I will vote/hammer cakes before deadline if needed. I think he'll probably flip town, though his rollclaim could be from scum. Claiming the multiple modifier is one of the safest ways to fakeclaim due to the fudging, and I think Cakez claimed after the other rolecop or roleblocker. Gotta check my notes tomorrow on that too

Who is this directed at

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james gamma and dragon could easily be the solve fr. possibly switch james for cyrus, just cause i can't see them as anything other than t-s.
and honestly i assumed that if the cyrus wagon gained traction again dragon would unvote

This doesn’t jibe with me tbh
Why you looking for a 3-person “solve”?

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It reads like a nature documentary tone-wise
I don’t think that’s good

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I kinda just want to know if the cult is real. We're too fragmented. This is the most pro-town elim today I think

VOTE: Gamma

I could also do James because I can see Gamma/James as partners, and if they are, the cult is possibly a lie to distract from scum

the cult is possibly a lie to distract from scum

I mean Jesus fuck, you were cult hunting all day and someone rolled cult. Am I really the only one that thinks this is B.S?

Not gonna lie, it made me super nervous when I read it.

Like, I need to know your thought process kyouko.

My thought process is, if it werent for the existence of cult, I'd be townreading Dwlee and Cyrus, and wouldn't be interested in eliminating either of them today. I'm also thinking James is caught scum, and I didn't want to vote him still, even as sure as I am that he's scum, I didn't want to vote him because of the existence of cult.

I had considered early on that claiming they rolled cult is something scum could do to throw town off the scent, but didn't put much stock into the likelihood of that, until I realized that I'm most interested in voting out Dwlee, who would be completely off the table (for me at least) if this was confirmed singleball. So if scum did fake the cult roll to distract town, it is working on me. It's working on at least half of us I would estimate. I just won a game with Dwlee as town in ELO recently and I would really like to be able to work with him here if possible, so I

want

MegA/Gamma to be scum that lied about cult. I

want

to believe there isn't a cult, and if I can flip Gamma and see he's red, I can convince myself to work with Dwlee.

that's a lot of words to justify pushing a miselim
there's very likely other ways to verify there's a cult

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I don't think rolecops can see modifiers

people always say this and I'm always like "this doesn't seem like a reasonable interpretation"
am I just completely out of sync on this topic?

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Wiki

The Role Cop sees the player's role as of the start of the game; thus, in the case of an X-Shot role, the Role Cop would be told how many shots the role started with, not how many shots currently remain.

okay so I'm not insane

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why is cyrus getting wagoned? because I'm not gonna support it without good reason, seeing as he's pretty much always been a hasty choice when I've seen him miselimmed and in multiple of those scenarios I was scum who was happy to get rid of him with how troublesome he was to get rid of otherwise

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VOTE: kyouko
I don't think I've really seen that weird commentary type of posting I called out earlier from town!kyouko and it's just a scummy way to talk in general I think

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alright, the first point feels like a common thing brought against him across multiple games, but the second makes sense and the third seems like a combination of the first and second points
I'd prefer kyouko but won't oppose cyrus atp

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i fucking lied as a gambit for the 1st time it payed off i am town parity cop with no mod i can check him and se if he is green or red.

VOTE: Cakez

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This is 100% a scum-infested wagon

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What the fuck does self-meta have to do with anything

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flavor

In the night,

T3

sneaks out of his room to confiscate someone's suitcase. As he's crossing the living room, the creak of a floorboard squeaks behind him. He whirls around to see an equally confused

SirCakez

carrying a bag of dice.

"What's that?" T3 asks SirCakez. Cakez replies with a defensive "nothing", then hastily shoves the dice in his coat pocket.

"Well then, if you say so," T3 finishes defensively, walking off to another gamer's room and gingerly turning the knob.

From the couch, someone stirs. Cakez whirls around and shines his flashlight in the eavesdropper's eyes...

It's

JamesTheNames

.

Cakez lowers the flashlight.

"Why are you out here?" they ask each other almost in unison.

"Couch is comfy," James states nonchalantly as he types something on his phone browser, presently directed to mafiascum.net.

"Understandable. Now if you'll excuse me..." Cakez's voice trails off as he heads down the hallway T3 went down.

Speaking of T3, the two collide mid-step, both looking in opposite directions of each other.

In the moment of confusion and mutual head-rubbing, three shots ring out, dispatching the cult leader and innocents.

JamesTheNames was

Town Doubled Neighborizer

Spoiler: Role PM

Welcome! You are arguing for a

Casual Game.

You are part of the majority arguing for a casual board game. The night has gone on too long already and it's time to just start with

something that we can all play

.

You're a

Town Doubled Neighborizer

.
• At night, send me the names of two people. Assuming no interference with your action, you will add both of them to a neighborhood PT in which you may talk in at any time.

Your Neighborhood PT isn't linked here.
You win once Mafia, Werewolves, Aliens, Cult, and Serial Killers are all dead.
The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying with your role and alignment. If you have a PT, you may post in there and I will count it as a confirmation.

T3 was

Town Odd-Night Roleblocker

Spoiler: Role PM

Welcome! You are arguing for a

Casual Game.

You are part of the majority arguing for a casual board game. The night has gone on too long already and it's time to just start with

something that we can all play

.

You're a

Town Odd-Night Roleblocker.

• On odd nights (Night 1, 3, 5, 7, and so on), you may send me the name of a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will prevent your target's action from succeeding.

You win once Mafia, Werewolves, Aliens, Cult, and Serial Killers are all dead.
The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying with your role and alignment. If you have a PT, you may post in there and I will count it as a confirmation.

SirCakez was

Multitasking Cult Leader Voyeur

Spoiler: Role PM

Welcome! You are arguing for a

Dice Game.

You love dice. You've loved dice ever since you were young. How random they were. How geometrically perfect. All those little numbers, just waiting to be the ones on top.
You crafted this game in your shed last week. You've been playtesting it all by yourself for hours on end. Added just the right amount of replayability. And now it's time to unveil it to the world.

You are the

Cult of RNGesus's Leader, who is also a Multitasking Voyeur

.
• At night you may send me the name of a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn what actions were taken on that player (but not who took them).
You get to talk to anyone else in your cult in a PT at any time.
At night you may send me the name of a player. Assuming they aren't cheering for a game (or are equally fanatic about dice, like the Serial Killers), you can teach them the rules of your game and invite them into the Cult of RNGesus. You might even be able to persuade the group advocates as long as nobody else is left in their camp!

You may perform both your Voyeur action and your Recruit action in the same night.

Your Cult PT is not linked here.
You win once the Mafia, Werewolves, Aliens, and Serial Killers are gone and you and your cult following have an unopposable voting majority so that everyone goes home and spreads the knowledge of the single most infectious dice game

ever

.
The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying with your role and alignment. If you have a PT, you may post in there and I will count it as a confirmation.

huh
I don't think there'd be 2 cult leaders so either my roll was fudged into voyeur or my role was fudged into not-cult and the voyeur was fudged into being CL

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what

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Dragon is cult.

I would target dragon

hmmm

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Also with T3 flipping odd-night roleblocker my TR on RMH goes out the window. I thought his gambit was specifically coming from a town odd-night roleblocker role

What’s this about

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Gamma is still scummy 100000% unless something changed in the last like half hour, i haven't read yet

-_-
Tbh I’m not impressed by your entrance today but that aside, why is this? If you think I’m partnered with Cyrus I have news for you that’s there’s no way in hell I’d play around him like I did as a buddy

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i think a second cult roll results in the mod re-rolling, not fudging a roll.

what’s the difference

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And thinking about it the former makes more sense because why would you fudge one roll to be not-CL while fudging a different roll to be CL
It seems like a zero-sum transaction

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Gamma is still scummy 100000% unless something changed in the last like half hour, i haven't read yet

-_-
Tbh I’m not impressed by your entrance today but that aside, why is this? If you think I’m partnered with Cyrus I have news for you that’s there’s no way in hell I’d play around him like I did as a buddy

"not impressed by your entrance today"
if you're not scum. swear to god.

"no way in hell I'd play around him like I did as a buddy"
this means nothing.

Nice double standard there pal. You’re allowed to just write off my statement about how I wouldn’t leave myself with the short end of the interaction stick but I’m supposed to townread your limp entrance where you posted a fake looking dumbtell?

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Pretty sure when I’ve done that “talk about dead people as if they were still alive” thing in the past it’s mostly been as scum

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Pretty sure when I’ve done that “talk about dead people as if they were still alive” thing in the past it’s mostly been as scum

okay. So how do you think this factors into my overall play/Iso.

I had a moment D1 where I was like “the way he’s reacting here feels very very genuine so I think he’s town”, I still think the reaction was genuine but now I’m not sure about the town indication of it

like do you actually think im buddies with cyrus and why

I just think you’re scummy
I’ll admit I kinda leapt to calling out what looked vaguely like a double standard but the way you seemed to want me to TR you while being dismissive of what I was saying in response to your accusation felt a bit like you were acting like you were somehow above me, and if there’s one thing I detest it’s misplaced/unfounded authority

didn't someone say they've played with gamma before what do they think

I think you might be the only one here who hasn’t

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Cakes screams of cult gamma is rght

:eyes_emoji:

Yeah I’m fucking cracked

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I literally had a game rather recently where I got miseliminated for weakly supporting a wagon on someone that flipped scum (I didn’t try to impede the wagon but I never voted there and tried to apply pressure elsewhere)
Following that I think it would be bad play to go “I’m going to go all-in defending my buddy no matter bad it’d look following the flip”
Obviously it’s reasonable to think I’m scum not with Cyrus, but I was kinda wondering where the pressure on me went so I assumed you were thinking that way because I was like “someone has to be thinking this”

Also when someone says “if you’re not scum” it indicates the player is doing something wrong if town. I don’t get why you’d feel like town wouldn’t push what I pushed?

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Why are you sorting as if there’s just mafia

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Survivor is actually a pro-scum 3P
SK would actually be more pro-town

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That’s wrt game balance FYI

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I thought survivor just had to live, they would want to kill scum or they get endgamed

No matter who wins, if Survivor lives to endgame they win
As such if 2 or more teamed groupscum reach ELo Survivor is likely to side with who they think scum is in that scenario, as that ends the game while townsiding means they have to live another day, plus if they’re outed scum have more ability to punish them for not siding with them

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Wait does survivor win if they're alive in endgame, regardless of whether town or scum wins? I was thinking they only won with town

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Why are you sorting as if there’s just mafia

There's just mafia now. The other two kills are of my vigging.

Do you not think a double kill could have happened?

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how would you go about it? With one faction down, and no way to know if there's 3p or another faction until tomorrow, *maybe*?

I honestly think playing around the starting numbers would be the best choice
We have 60% town to start, which by my math is 8/13 players. We’ve had 2 scum flips, meaning at most 3 scum can still be alive. As such I don’t really have a strong objection to the PoE except for not entirely getting why the people who are in it are there

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how would you go about it? With one faction down, and no way to know if there's 3p or another faction until tomorrow, *maybe*?

I honestly think playing around the starting numbers would be the best choice
We have 60% town to start, which by my math is 8/13 players. We’ve had 2 scum flips, meaning at most 3 scum can still be alive. As such I don’t really have a strong objection to the PoE except for not entirely getting why the people who are in it are there

okay, so you're just saying "don't out the possibility?" of another faction/3rd party? but focusing on the mafia is fine since 2 of the 3 possible scum are likely cyrus's partners?
sorry if i'm extrapolating wrong

Yeah ig
It’s either that or 8:2:2:1 assuming the maximum 5 scum

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some relevant info:

Here's the amount of direct interactions cyrus has had with each player/slot. Cyrus seems to mostly quote people when he's talking to them, even in quick-fire back and forth, so those direct, non-encapsulated quotes are most of what I counted. There were a couple of written out '@'s I happened to catch, but I did not go out of my way to look for them, and they are few and far between. So while the count is imperfect, it should not be far off from the true count. As I used the same method of looking for interactions when meta-ing, I think this method is reliable enough. In nature it's only fit to show a big picture, rather than split hairs over, anyway.

Mega/Gamma is kept separate for obvious reasons (highlighted blue to stand out), but I thought I'd include them in the count anyway.

Most
:

T3

- 29
: Dwlee99 - 27
:

JamestheNames

- 24
: ssbm_kyouko - 14
: Marashu - 14
: Thor - 11
: SirCakez - 10
: Dragon - 10
: redtea - 7
: Nero Cain - 6
: Robert - 4
Least

Mega/Gamma - 5

Here's Cyrus's scumreads at various points, of who are still alive. I only just added myself to this, lmk if I missed something there.

ssbm_kyouko, from #45, carries through #1228
dwlee from #603, includes them in his poe, carries more or less through #1310
nero cain from #242, carries through #1296
dragon from #1144, carries through #1425
rmh from #352, carries through #1150
thor as scum lean from #460, later includes thor in his poe, through #1309

meg/gamma from #1138, seemingly gone by #1307

me (redtea) implied in #845, through #1096

so from earliest read to latest, along with their first post
: ssbm_kyouko #45, first post #25
: nero cain #242, first post #215
: rmh #352, first post #206
: thor #460, first post #8, but I'll note that he disappears until #167
: dwlee #603, first post #13
: me (redtea) #845, first post #171

: meg/gamma #1138 (replaced slot), first post #57/#913

: dragon #1144, first post #16

sorted by number of posts between their first and being scum read/leaned by cyrus
: ssbm_kyouko - 20
: nero cain - 27
: rmh - 146

: gamma - 225

: thor - 293 (if

not

counting his very first post)
: thor - 452 (if counting his very first post)
: dwlee - 590
: me (redtea) - 674

: meg - 1081

: dragon - 1128

wait how is that order exactly the same except for gamma

...is this how cyrus picks his scumreads????? and I crazy, am I doing something wrong?

I don’t feel so good 0_0

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I don’t really get why so many people suspect Nero apart from maybe him being low impact based on what I’ve seen, and that can be VERY hit-or-miss as a method of reading him

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But Cyrus also flipped red despite me feeling he was flipping green so maybe I’m just ass-backwards on everything except my Cakez read

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I don’t think “bonus role” means a modifier

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Isn't Thor near 100% scum at this point? What was the flaw in my reasoning and Marashu's?

viewtopic.php?p=12976965#p12976965

I regret not vigging Thor, I changed my choice from Thor to T3 in the middle of the night. Now I'm smacking my head over it.

I don’t think Marashu is even that confident about Thor being scum...?

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Think dwlee, marashu,

thor

, redtea, rmh are all town with the extinction of cult

I'm probably going to want to lim Thor today but we have time to discuss still

could you talk about how you went from town reading Thor to wanting to vote him?

Yeah, I was heavily discounting the possibility of Cyrus lying about his roll. I think it was Dragon or Gamma that made a point that had me reconsidering a bit, bringing Thor into that POE, because he was only out of it because of his suspected role of PGO. Then when Thor voted for RMH it seemed suspicious to me.

In the post right before 1605 I explain why policy limming Thor is probably strong here as well.

Okaaay
Something feels up with this post

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I would feel less confident about redtea flipping scum than kyouko rn

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VOTE: kyouko
Yeah this just constantly has been the only name in the pool of possible scums that’s seemed actually likely scum
I also don’t think the “my play has been consistent” plea is very convincing when I thought kyouko was sus D1 as well

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VOTE: kyouko
Yeah this just constantly has been the only name in the pool of possible scums that’s seemed actually likely scum
I also don’t think the “my play has been consistent” plea is very convincing when I thought kyouko was sus D1 as well

Are you scum or just tilted? No comment on my theory that T3 rolled Cult Multitasking Voyeur?

I don't really have a good idea what is going on mechanically this game

Spoiler: me this game

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If I'm certain, based on Cyrus's meta, that within his first three stated scumreads, one of them will be his partner,

Have played with Cyrus, p sure this is wrong

it's also a goofy assumption

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Whilst I’d like if more people would vote kyouko beyond that I feel like there’s not much for me to say rn

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If there's a serial killer I'd like them to make their presence known so that we can work with them. I think it's fair to leave each other alive and share a joint win in the end if we can kill all the other scum.

Come forth please, you won't regret it.

SK doesn't joint win -_-

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DW what do you think about Marashu? We could kill that if you really don't want to do SSBM. Same q @ Gamma and DOTW.

he's seemed kinda reasonable and vaguely towny
I would def prefer ssbm tho

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I don’t mind getting eliminated at some point but why not kyouko?

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@ DOTW, Gamma Why did you stop scumreading redtea?

I’m not entirely sure, there was something I liked D1 but I forgot why I stopped suspected him toDay

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Unsuprised, care lacking

Marashu transparent scum using the opportunity to get me out after it's clear I scumread him

I'll take my paranoid gun owning to the witcher 3

I kinda see this myself, because of a wording error in his post with his last vote on you

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Eh that’s a fair rationale

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DotW you should check the n1 flips again

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m a roleblocker that blocked Cakez last night so the cult is probably dead for good

[Gamma Emerald]

I may have misread 1859

[Gamma Emerald]

Also if Gamma commits to blocking RMH publicly, we dont have to waste rolecops on RMH. Gamma, are you willing to do that? Just say No if you're not willing or are 1-shot. Dont out how many shots you got.

I’ll do it

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah idk the merits of more than one person targeting there? Like, that’s just more dead bodies if Thor is what he claims.

[Gamma Emerald]

I trust Kyouko’s claim

[Gamma Emerald]

Whilst I’d like if more people would vote kyouko beyond that I feel like there’s not much for me to say rn

I don’t mind getting eliminated at some point but why not kyouko?

I trust Kyouko’s claim

Gamma what makes you trust Kyo's claim at this stage when pretty much until the end of the day yesterday you were looking to lim there?

I actually kinda caught hints of kyouko being a tracker when she was planning NAs

[Gamma Emerald]

Whilst I’d like if more people would vote kyouko beyond that I feel like there’s not much for me to say rn

I don’t mind getting eliminated at some point but why not kyouko?

I trust Kyouko’s claim

Gamma what makes you trust Kyo's claim at this stage when pretty much until the end of the day yesterday you were looking to lim there?

I actually kinda caught hints of kyouko being a tracker when she was planning NAs

Did you roleblock her last night?

No, I’m guessing Marashu is the one who did so

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m 4 shot, and yes I targeted RMH last night

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah there’s also the fact that there’s nothing to suggest a rampaging FV is in the game because no one has claimed receiving fruit

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t recall anyone rolling something like that unless a roll was just uber-fudged so my guess is redtea is lying

[Gamma Emerald]

A scum flip either way doesn’t resolve the 1v1 tbh

[Gamma Emerald]

But how would bus driver interact with rampaging parity cop?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: kyouko

[Gamma Emerald]

Did cyrus know there were only 2 parity cops in game and did he know both were on his scumteam? Is food for thought

This is like a super problematic post imo

[Gamma Emerald]

Hammer scum!Kyouko for the glory!

[Gamma Emerald]

how was that not letting everyone participate in the conversation, pretty sure a lot of talk had happened by then

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: dragon of the west
don't think people are gonna actually believe me on this one but it's gotta be that dotw is scum since there's presumably no way he could have gotten the result he did

[Gamma Emerald]

if bus driver affected your result you should have gotten multiple results

[Gamma Emerald]

No, we've talked through this. The bus driver could have swapped who my visited my target

yeah no
you yourself said you'd get multiple results if more than one person visited your target. if a and another role were bus driven from parson a to person b, you should have gotten a check for person b + the bus driver and person b + the other role you were swapped with
honestly I made my point in haste because if the only other visitor to your target besides you was the bus driver was you no extra result would have to exist, but by doing so you trapped yourself

[Gamma Emerald]

if dotw and another pr target a player, and are bus driven to another player, dotw would detect the bus driver and the other PR

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Nero Cain

[Gamma Emerald]

neeheehee~

[Gamma Emerald]

[Gamma Emerald]

So Meg 100% was bullshitting with her roll claim, she actually rolled Marashu’s role
I feel kinda epic because I kinda emulated a winning game Alisae played a while back where e used eir own bus driver role to covertly avoid a mechanical autolose, plus RMH kinda played the other part e played in the scum win where e bus-dayvigged to gain the towncred needed to do the aforementioned play

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma did you block Redtea last night phase?

yup

[Gamma Emerald]

Werewolves are an additional groupscum faction, not third party

[Gamma Emerald]

Nah our factional kill just kept getting stopped

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm still pogging off at managing to correctly SR CL!Cakez and actually having an inkling of his true alignment (while the "I'm cracked" post was a joke I also meant it when I said I had suspicions of cakez being CL)

[Gamma Emerald]

I think you would have been on our radar as a shot, having the role you did and also being a pain to miselim in most cases

[Gamma Emerald]

I think you would have been on our radar as a shot, having the role you did and also being a pain to miselim in most cases

at that point in the game my role wouldnt have been reveald

i thought you'd already claimed atp

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah I really didn’t want it to be known I was ww instead of mafia

[Gamma Emerald]

I've been eliminated as town (during the day) 3 times since coming back - twice I was quickhammered by scum, and once because I faked a guilty - I don't think pushing me for a mislim works that early when there are a lot of town left alive, even if the player I'm at odds with

has a strong reputation like Nero does

I think you're count is off unless you mismarked Radio Buzz

[Gamma Emerald]

after so long without getting nked dwlee got shot by scum three times in 2 games

[Gamma Emerald]

remind me to talk about this later perhaps

[Gamma Emerald]

I rolled the town Joat.

I noted this in my first postgame post
While I’ve gotten “better” about it, I still have the issue sometimes that I used to have all the time where blatantly being untrue for a long timespan would basically burn a hole in my soul

[Gamma Emerald]

It was a good idea but I was basically shitting myself the entire game especially once massclaim was done thinking people would logic the shit out of the setup and figure out the lie

[Gamma Emerald]

We only had 3 NKs for one night

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah it’s janky because doubled one shot would basically be one shot with an extra step
Speaking of that meme I actually burned a tell probably no one was even aware existed where I tend to post memes as town vs. as scum