2235: Gensokyo ~ END ~

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: LLD
Since the last time we played, I gotta say, things are pretty fucking far from okay.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: LLD

[Gamma Emerald]

Vote: Gamma Emerald

To this kind sir, must you have the same avatar as the mod?

I thought the avatar was quite cute. Is that a point you’d like to refute?

[Gamma Emerald]

I know a few Touhou characters, but don't come to me expecting flavor answers.

[Gamma Emerald]

No vote indeed, I see, I see. That's unfortunate for LLD.

UNVOTE: Lady Lambdadelta
VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Confusing avatar isn't so sweet. Obfuscation gets an ED1 yeet!

Honestly I’d hoped my hair would be redder
Since that would help distinguish better

[Gamma Emerald]

I think you hair looks gorgeous dear!

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

I’ll keep sticking to this same hue, but I’m getting something to top my do.

I don't know what kind of mod we have, but I can see it being a flavored warning, but there was that everyone overheard bit. EM had a Town Crier role, and we might have something similar.

Might I know you from some other block? Something seems familiar about the way you talk.

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw if anyone is curious that long post is definitely from Norwee.

This is quite the confident claim. Any insight into Norwee’s aim?

[Gamma Emerald]

In that case it’s a transparent lie. As such my main interest is “why?”

[Gamma Emerald]

Jester is only partially considered bastard. Now don’t you feel rather awkward?

[Gamma Emerald]

Meanwhile while we run up Gamma for an RVS reason, we ignore Aaron.

Sneaky beings such as I flit in and out. When I have thoughts, naturally, the game will receive them. I am currently searching for a dance partner and have yet to find one. Perhaps I'll have to make do with the kind sir with the red hair if this continues - he seems like the best dancer here.

It’s been some time since I’ve had a nice dance. Might you know how to waltz, perchance?

[Gamma Emerald]

But, I don't know that that would really matter in this flavor? Never played these games

Flavor actually matters a lot because if you understand the flavor you can kinda guess what kind of role they have.
As for me, I have 0 reason to hide my flavor because anyone who knows Touhou will know what I picked when I joined as this alt lol.

I'll keep that in mind.

Spoiler:

I did not realize until this post that your alt name is a character from the games lol

I had thought that too, but nope! I found that out on TVTropes.
aside: TVTropes is where I went to get info for my pick choices

[Gamma Emerald]

*blows a goodbye kiss to Sanae*

Sorry for the wait sir! To be very organized, and because waltzing must be orderly, I will discuss our steps with sir gamma.

1. Left foot forward - Aaron
2. Left foot back - Gamma
3. Left foot to the right - Aaron
4. Left foot forward - Gamma
5. Left foot back - Aaron
6. Left foot to the right - Gamma

3 questions for me and 3 for sir Gamma. May I?

Three questions each, that’s a fair score. My dear sir, you have the floor.

[Gamma Emerald]

By the way a quick suggestion, our eliminations should have acceleration.

[Gamma Emerald]

Aaron actually asks whether he can ask questions instead of just asking them?

I think it is part of the act. That’s is just my opinion, not fact.

[Gamma Emerald]

Now here is the biggest question in this thread: do I want to townread Titus this early?
Townreading Titus this early is an incident by itself.

I’ve gotten early townreads on Titus before, as such I’m not opposed to it happening more.

[Gamma Emerald]

By the way a quick suggestion, our eliminations should have acceleration.

What does this mean?

While some would let the deadline elapse, I think haste is better perhaps.

[Gamma Emerald]

Thank you for complimenting my cut, though the confusion makes it bittersweet somewhat.
About the Norwegian, I must say, he’s certainly made it exciting today. First he springs a sudden message, then brings up issues about role usage. I applaud his willingness to seek aid, it’s perhaps the best choice he could have made.
Left foot back, it’s my turn. About RegRider, what do you discern?

[Gamma Emerald]

You're not actually giving an read on me though Yukari.

I know from another game, see, that the Yumeko head is surely Taly!
(@Aaron) I’ll give my Titus read after a bit of time, I need to put my thought into rhyme.

[Gamma Emerald]

I've felt conflicted. He said two things that, while small, still conflicted each other in a subtle way. At the time, it raise one eyebrow and even now, it does. My eyebrows like dancing as much as I do though, so it's hard to say if he is guilty of such a small detail alone.

"I just assumed it was a messaging role. Odd way of getting warned for spam I suppose."
"I don't know what kind of mod we have, but I can see it being a flavored warning, but there was that everyone overheard bit."

I still trust him right now. I feel like his motivations are genuine though I could see him be a part of the spies, especially if Titus is one, but I don't believe that currently. I think that his annoyance towards my love for dancing is real yet he is still trying to see through the simplicity of my dancing, and he is right, there is more. I have no reason to suspect him currently and plan to trust until give reason otherwise.

Left foot to the right. What says you about the fair lady Titus? 5 sentence minimum. Waltzing is too simple, we have to add a bit of spice!

Before I go on I think you should know, what you saw from Reg also came from Ms. Yakumo. Both of them had that flip in perspective, so with that point I wouldn’t be selective.

About Titus her read on you seems not quite cogitative, in fact I’d call it rather pre-emptive. She called your content lacking extremely early, and towards you has remained quite surly. Whilst you’re not the most active, this game feels lethargic as a collective. As such the fact she singled you out, it turns my face into a pout. I feel like you show great potential, your moment seems too be eventual. Beyond that, she’s felt slow to take stances. Perhaps she’d be a good choice for some dances? All things considered, I’d need to see more, but right now she’s a bit of a bore.

Left foot forward, let me see. What are your thoughts on our dear Yukari?

[Gamma Emerald]

There’s one thing I think we should know, does LLD’s votelessness persist in ELo?

[Gamma Emerald]

Mary’s read on me is what I’d expect, but it doesn’t make her not a suspect. I’m waiting to see what Yumeko will provide, so for her content I will abide.
Left foot to the right, one last request. Does Lady Lambdadelta pass your test?

[Gamma Emerald]

That’s not what I was trying to imply. My read on you is simply on standby. Mary’s RP makes her hard to assess, your alignment might be easier to guess.

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler:

@RegRider I like you. I'd like to skim a prior game of yours to check your tone.

@RegRider I like you. I'd like to skim a prior game of yours to check your tone.

The only game I played on this site is ongoing. I assumed you could just look in my post history. Not sure what you are asking.

Offsite is fine

I don't give offsite information. Also, are you trying to get me modkilled?

Offsite completed games are fine to link to. Why won't you?

Why would asking for finished games get you modkilled?

Because I assumed you want me to slip and get me modkilled for that rule. I am sorry, but getting offsite games is an unreasonable request. Its not because of a MS rule, its an internet safety thing.

I'm not asking for your real name or anything similar. No way you slip and get modkilled for sharing an offsite game.

Apparently you need bold to understand.

I will not share information from site to site if I can help it.

I don’t really get this distaste, and I feel like not granting oneself offsite meta is a waste.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m fine being pushed but don’t go to far, else you risk opening Pandora’s Jar.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m keeping my emotions under regulation, but there’s a train that should yet leave the station. Wagoning me risks an untimely surprise, one I expect we lack the time to utilize.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: RegRider
This is partly to change my stale vote, but he hasn’t doesn’t much that feels worth note.

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:

[Gamma Emerald]

One thing I think I should mention, there might be a catch to RegRider’s decision.

[Gamma Emerald]

The Miracle Mallet is an ancient inchling artifact, passed down through the generations, said to be able to grant any wish the user wishes. However, only inchlings are able to use it. In addition, the utilization of the Mallet to grant wishes comes with a price, and for wishes that are too large, it extracts this price before it even grants the wish.

You know, I simply must inquire, why are people oblivious to a clause so dire?

[Gamma Emerald]

I expect any wishes granted have a cost. Why is that a detail that ended up lost?
VOTE: RegRider
Unless the answer satiates my concern, I think that this player must burn.

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:
I can potentially trust that based on general rule 10. But how come no one else said “come again”?
I should not be the only one watching my back, some of y’all might need to pick up the slack.

FOS Kilga, Yukari, Norwee, Sanae

[Gamma Emerald]

I revoted because your claim bothered my brain. Once it didn’t, there was no purpose to remain. I also don’t believe your flavor knowledge has breadth, my suspicion is pointed at those whose thought feels lacking depth.

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:
I can potentially trust that based on general rule 10. But how come no one else said “come again”?
I should not be the only one watching my back, some of y’all might need to pick up the slack.

FOS Kilga, Yukari, Norwee, Sanae

Can you rephrase the first sentence?

It’s as Yukari said, I don’t want to get burned. But there are others whose mental gears I think I should be seeing turned.

[Gamma Emerald]

I wanted an answer and I got my reply. My vote was a tool to ensure you’d comply.

[Gamma Emerald]

You knew there was no cost, others did not. Why was that an issue only I managed to spot?

[Gamma Emerald]

You answered me in 518, though? You said “no cost”, making my concern go.

[Gamma Emerald]

And no one else considered cost, that’s my problem. The lack of townie concern is a conundrum.

[Gamma Emerald]

Unless it’s your role, I doubt any information you can glean. So any attempts to ask would not be keen. Let RegRider ask what would be permitted, that’s the only way I think answers will be admitted.

[Gamma Emerald]

Within this flavor demon-phobia makes sense, that’s a possible reason LLD lost Luke’s reference. I don’t get why Luke’s the bad guy, if he was why such a stratagem try?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: LLD
Luke’s behavior seems much more sincere. If a 1v1 is in play, LLD looks worse I fear.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t even get how hider and...that run counter, but I trust Luke within this fracture.

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like Yukari’s plan might be decent. Elsewise my attention span’s a little spent,

[Gamma Emerald]

And that the fact Luke tried to tailor the crumb to LLD suggests that they are not both scum together.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also why not elim the person who has a vote first? But I also recall Luke suggesting a loudcop on him, seems risky if he's mafia. I can see him as town wanting to confirm himself.

I mean feel free to cop me given I can't die.

At night, that is. If you vote me out I die.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: kilgamayan
I’d honestly be fine with any on the prior list, except Yukari, whose efforts seem in earnest.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t want to have to do this but I might have no choice, I might have reveal why I’ve bound my voice.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think the part where I most let my towniness shine, is when I asked whether the devil’s deal concern was just mine.

[Gamma Emerald]

But honestly if y’all just give me a day, I should put all your worries away.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t even get how hider and...that run counter, but I trust Luke within this fracture.

VOTE: LLD
Luke’s behavior seems much more sincere. If a 1v1 is in play, LLD looks worse I fear.

[Gamma Emerald]

This feels like going out on a limb, but on the subject of Cakez, I think I trust him.

[Gamma Emerald]

It’s hard to broach this, but let’s break the ice. I think Aaron might not be so nice? For a while my opinion on him was chillin’, but on reflection he could well be a villain.

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like Aaron has rather inconsistent stances, especially on the subjects of his dances. Not only did his TR on Luke regress, but on Sanae his motions also feel somewhat baseless.

I don't agree that my role-play is getting in the way of the game, though I did not expect Lady Sanae to get that deep into the role-play. My purpose in dancing with her was to figure out why she scumread Yukari. I ended the dance because I felt we were going to get nowhere since it seemed like Lady Sanae didn't have too much to say. That is fair but that also means I will be dancing with someone else in the meantime and getting back to her later in the game.

I will continue with dancing because that is the character I wish to portray but I will try to tone it down a bit. My current dance order is: Gamma, Lukewarm
I specifically have some questions on Norwee's claim as well as overall behavior. I also am looking to see what people think about Titus. That is the plan for today/tomorrow.

If it is a huge bother into day 2 or 3, I will drop the gimmick entirely.

You didn't think that was the end did you? Right foot. Sir Norwee is on your ally list? Tell me more. Spin. You have me successfully intrigued. Left foot. Lady Niamh seems a bit too happy for my liking but I do think she is likely ally and not spy. Sway. Kakeguri is one of my own main suspects at the moment so that is interesting. I heard people marked Lady Mary off as roleplaying however I do not believe that was the case.

I didn't even notice! Right foot. I gained a trust for Lady Sanae in the first dance and that is a successful dance from my point of view. Twirl. Sir Gamma left me with some questions and a feeling of uncertainty. Left foot. Surely you won't leave me disappointed, right?

I’ve chosen two posts to highlight my concern. If the dance was so telling, why would he initially spurn? He calls his dance with Sanae unfulfilling, but later tries to give it top billing.

[Gamma Emerald]

In terms of that 1v1, LLD’s posting feels so cold, meanwhile Lukewarm feels more vibrant and bold.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t appreciate the subtle threat you implied, by suggesting I’d have to claim for being after your hide.

[Gamma Emerald]

In that case I simply must contemplate, what your dance with me manage to accomplish, did it educate?

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t appreciate the subtle threat you implied, by suggesting I’d have to claim for being after your hide.

You didn't offer a reason to suspect me so I assumed that was why. If that was not the reason, what was?

It's just that if that was the reason, I want you to understand that I feel this is the best choice as to not get any more claims on the table and it's frustrating that you have an issue with that right now where we need to consolidate votes, and fast. Can you explain why you suspect me here?

I feel like your stances drift a bit too easily, and it makes you come off a bit weaselly.

[Gamma Emerald]

On which topic are you placing a 3-post limit? Depending on that I may have an issue with it.

[Gamma Emerald]

On which topic are you placing a 3-post limit? Depending on that I may have an issue with it.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m keeping my emotions under regulation, but there’s a train that should yet leave the station. Wagoning me risks an untimely surprise, one I expect we lack the time to utilize.

There are no trains in Gensokyo.
Neither are busses.

I read a LLD post suggesting this is a lie. Why did you view my post as something to defy?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Aaron

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:
667 strikes a sympathetic chord, but not sure which wagon I care to board. Although I’ll ask that Aaron give me some credit; on the subject of the claims not exactly conflicting, I’m the first who said it.

[Gamma Emerald]

As much as I’d like to make a wish out of self-interest, revealing Luke’s alignment might be for the best.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Lukewarm 551: I think you misunderstand. Any cost of a wish made on the Miracle Mallet is at the expense of the user of the Miracle Mallet. Shinmyoumaru is the one using the Miracle Mallet, so Shinmyoumaru is the one that would be paying any theroetical price, regardless of who's wish RegRider picked. (For all that this matters now, given (a) RegRider has stated there is no cost associated with wish granting in this setting, and (b) everything else that's happened since.)

That’s honestly not what it looked like you meant. But your logic checks out and for that I’m content.
I’d like to point out your activity seems quite sparse, could you provide some deeper thoughts for me to parse?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: norwee
His outlook this game feels like scum perspective, he’s sorting slots as town but there’s little scum hunting directive.

[Gamma Emerald]

Has it still just been only Mary? I want some thoughts from the other head to see.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’ll admit my vote movement has been loose, but you’re wrong that I’m fine with anyone getting the noose. In fact, you’re a person I don’t care to vote, to find other trusted folks I’m also trying to my time devote.

[Gamma Emerald]

A dull day phase with minimal progress will make that happen, on later days expect me to bring on the whippin’.

[Gamma Emerald]

Titus, what’s your Cakez read again? I have my own but I’m still willing to listen.

[Gamma Emerald]

I also feel like Cakez is town here, I’m not on the fence, Cabd clause probably isn’t in effect because of my current impotence.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma Emerald

- If he is town and flips town, find the against the grain read he defended from being called scum and flip it like it's a cop guilty~

[Gamma Emerald]

If you're so pumped up, why does it feel like you're not trying that hard? That's been the main critique from this bard.

[Gamma Emerald]

I defended you in 231 and in a way I was right, in this game I have yet to see the same energy from you come to light. In that game you duked it out with AndresVMB, here you seem reserved to merely take potshots at me.

[Gamma Emerald]

Kakegurui is on my radar, sure. But I don't feel too great yet about that venture.

[Gamma Emerald]

Me going against the grain and doing my own silly things is literally just my personality. And i don't ever try to subdue this as town but as scum i do.

I feel like Gamma should know this, but it's like he is withholding information.

Going against the grain is not how I'd exactly describe you. RE: withholding information I don't entirely mean to. Maybe the message gets lost in the rhythm, but if that's the case I'm happy to re-explain some. The only exception is when it seems one is playing daft, that's when I'd give additional exposition the shaft.

[Gamma Emerald]

If I decide to make the wish that is self-motivated, you'll know what it is when it gets activated.

[Gamma Emerald]

I also feel like Cakez is town here, I’m not on the fence, Cabd clause probably isn’t in effect because of my current impotence.

What is Cabd clause?

To put it simply, it's insurance against a bad read lock. For I while I would simply say there was scum in my townblock. Recent cases had me exhibiting the core behavior, despite my townblock scum being nowhere near.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: kakegurui
As much as I'd love for them to flip my read, there's a time where final judgment is in dire need. Mary didn't really shine out beyond one post, and Yumeko vanished when it was her I needed to see the most.

[Gamma Emerald]

I wouldn't be too dismayed to see this game go like Among Us, but bagging scum today would be a great plus.
I do NOT expect everyone to get this. This allusion is mostly aimed at Cakez and Titus.

[Gamma Emerald]

I honestly wasn't thinking on that level, but now that you mention it I see a similar devil. Remember when I crumbled in Situation Room all for want of a Cupcake? My alt-hunting work has told me to not make a similar mistake.

[Gamma Emerald]

Cupcake equals Yumeko as well as Taly, there’s a similar level of frozen-ness, can’t you see?

[Gamma Emerald]

Cakez, I doubt this is the time to be picky, I’d like your vote on Kakegurui.
To all others, we’re at the eleventh hour. If we want an elim we need to align our voting power. I’d suggest Kakegurui, but if that’s not what you prefer, then work together to find a vote on which y’all can concur.

[Gamma Emerald]

Just make Kakeguri and Norwee dueling wagons and have people go on one of them. Please.

This is actually a smart tactic, it will make things somewhat less frantic.

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel absolutely awful in RL. I almost can’t even read due to a big headache and fever.

!VLA for 24 hours

Get well soon!
I’ve got some RL problems of my own but they’re a bit more long-lasting than 24 hours ;-;

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh I broke the rhyming trend, hopefully one mistake will be an allowed bend. Plus I did so to wish someone well, making that rhyme seems like a hard sell.

[Gamma Emerald]

The punishment isn’t quite that severe, but it’s still definitely something to fear.

[Gamma Emerald]

Did you submit before the lim was finished? If not I expect the chance for wishes has diminished.

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh dear, last night was quite the bloodbath! I’ll take some time to consider flips to choose the right path.
I wonder what all happened with the wishes, I feel like mine was quite...AH NUTS TO THIS.

Claim time. I’m Keine Kamishirasawa, and I have an ability to give us a double elimination once during the game, flavored as creating a new history. The PROBLEM is that whatever time was left on the deadline when the first elimination is decided is carried over to the second. Day One went by so lethargically that it was completely in advisable to use my ability. I DO NOT WANT THE SAME THING HAPPENING TODAY!

As for the fake PR, I decided to do it after I made my rhyming RVS vote and then the thread was re-locked.
(btw the word that would have completed the incomplete rhyme in this post was “delicious”, because my wish was to be able to add time to the deadline, and my character can consume or create history)

[Gamma Emerald]

Pretty sure I didn’t get mine unless the mod forgot to tell me
The deadline extension would have been in the form of a one-shot ability usable by me, I figured a deadline extension was public enough that requesting it via my wish was still in line with the plan to ask for confirmable wishes

[Gamma Emerald]

what’s weird

[Gamma Emerald]

I could see that bring morphed into number two

[Gamma Emerald]

Kakeguri Addicts [7]: Gamma Emerald, Titus, RedRider, SirCakez, Lukewarm, Yukari Yakumo, NorweegianboyEE

Yukari was on the wagon so I can definitely see that as having been “nerfed”

[Gamma Emerald]

Would a roleblocker have affected wishes?

[Gamma Emerald]

One thing that perturbs me is despite 12 people being alive 4 wishes showed up, I get there were likely dupes but in that case whose specific wish would have been granted?

[Gamma Emerald]

ngl I was like 20% concerned the mod would flat-out reject my wish despite it fitting within the 4 rules because it kinda feels like defying the very precepts of forum mafia

I’m kinda really in the mood to mod a UPick myself but they’ve kinda been saturating the market
Maybe after I get back home from my sister’s wedding the vibe will be different?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also last wish messed up and did not ask for public confirm.
I hope whoever made that wish isn’t dead.

YEAHHH I was about to mention that myself

[Gamma Emerald]

Tbh I feel like with a little trust we can put this game into autowin

[Gamma Emerald]

Is your double elimination 1-shot or multi-shot?

One shot. Also, I’m reasonably confident Cakez is town.

[Gamma Emerald]

Cakez is a player who is mostly readable off of vibes vs. the content of his posts. I say this having been wrong on him a number of times trying to read him on content.

[Gamma Emerald]

My current townblock outside of myself is {Luke, Cakez, Yukari}
I literally need 1 more TR to put this into autowin for me, and I expect my role to be evidently town so I’m expecting that people will be willing to go along with me on this

[Gamma Emerald]

That is true

[Gamma Emerald]

Kakegurui’s flip makes it so their roles can co-exist without being “broken”
It’s like if you have a normal game that’s cop-doc-vig vs. mafia roleblocker. It can be deemed balanced but elimming the mafia rb Day 1 is going to allow for follow-the-cop to happen.

[Gamma Emerald]

Ah
Whilst I’m pretty sure I have issues with compartmentalizing information effectively, that I straight up just forgot and didn’t lock up in the wrong part of my brain

[Gamma Emerald]

Ummm noooo?

[Gamma Emerald]

That is not the reason I put lld in my town pile.she is in my town pile because I told her, and only her, that I am a hider. And her response was to try and kill me.

That looks way more like town "there is no way we are balanced together" mindset.

As opposed to town lld who could acknowledge my claim, and then let kakeguri land a bonus kill on me night 1

As opposed to *scum* lld, who could...

Yeah this makes sense
If I add Cakez to Reg’s townblock that generates a winning 6

[Gamma Emerald]

lowkey feeling icky about the Kakeguri elim but ig we'll see..

I don’t think scum posts this about a buddy

[Gamma Emerald]

They were already dead by that point
Why make a comment like that?

[Gamma Emerald]

That same thing was noted about someone else in another game and I didn’t listen and the person who made to the similar post to what Cakez posted got miselimmed.

[Gamma Emerald]

If Cakez is scum it just makes him look bad

[Gamma Emerald]

Enchant isn't scum.

Enchant has been exiled to the wilderness!

Spoiler: They were a...

Special Agent (Scum)

[/color][/spoiler]

DrippingGoofball has been exiled to the mountains!

Spoiler: It was a...

Insurgent (Town)

[/color][/spoiler]

Behold, a tale of tragedy told in the span of 3 posts.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think it’s perfectly relevant. I also have way more experience with Cakez than you and that experience is leading me to think he’s town.

[Gamma Emerald]

wut

[Gamma Emerald]

That works as a reaction to both norwee and LLD

[Gamma Emerald]

We’re getting 2 elims in a 3 person PoE today
Hopefully we flip scum but if neither elim flips scum I expect there will be plenty of scrutiny of all the townblock
FYI I’m assuming the game is 9:3:1 rn

[Gamma Emerald]

I kinda want to know who Titus shot

[Gamma Emerald]

Ah yeah, setup rule 2

[Gamma Emerald]

I would guess Titus shot Kop since I doubt the Mafia would shot Kop and I don't think Kop shot himself.

You’re probably right
That means the mafia either shot Titus or Aaron

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't see how that would help us?

Aaron would give us a cop investigation result - isn't that much better?

I kinda forgot Aaron was a role thief

[Gamma Emerald]

that's valid
roles should be designed for known quantities, not fringe outcomes

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh yeah Gamma
If you use a double lim, does it advance a day upon first lim?
It’s important.

I think it does, there's a thing about night happening still
so it's I guess more akin to a night skipper than a double dayer, but either way I think it's kinda crazy to think my role would be scum

[Gamma Emerald]

Is it bad that I want to UTLim Norwee just because his delayer can delay the hiding?

tbh his reads have kinda felt off from where they maybe should be and it's becoming a rather concerning pattern

[Gamma Emerald]

are there things you know about Aaron that I would be able to ask him and get a response to prove that I am in a PT with him?

I feel like I could probably be of use for having things to verify it's aaron by

[Gamma Emerald]

I wasn't enthused by your SR on me yesterday (though I kept mum because the PR was maybe a factor)
and I don't get how you mixed up cakez and sanae so thoroughly so I'm inclined to think you legitimately thought cakez could be mafia

[Gamma Emerald]

My current townblock outside of myself is {Luke, Cakez, Yukari}

Also like, while on the topic of "You don't have the reads yOu ShOuLd bE". Why is Yukari so high on your list? I lowkey think they are like null or maybe nullscum.
I haven't checked if they have any associations with Kakeguri that is minus partnery but that is my general impression of their slot.

Their activity toDay feels pretty towny

But i do not really think Sircakez is scummy, however Sanae i don't townread or like that much.

eh okay

[Gamma Emerald]

hmmm
kinda suspect Kakegurui was moreso avoiding having reads on their partners entirely, reading the ISO
I saw them take a wide range of interactions with town or probtown slots but they seemed averse to interacting with anyone in my current scumpool except norwee, which probably townspews him

[Gamma Emerald]

And as for why I keep asking to be confirmed, I believe that my being confirmed town will be highly advantageous to town, even more so than the double elim option.

idr the context of this but it feels almost prescient

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I feel very in-sync with yukari in certain ways reading her ISO

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A dazzling light is shone before you..

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No, wait..that's just Lightning. Jeez! Almost hit one of you. This bright day sure went into the pits. Dark clouds loom over Gensokyo, as rain pours. Crackling sounds such as Thunder are heard. It would be really difficult to sleep even if you were dead right now.

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oh jeex this scared the shit out of me

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bad vibes from kilga rn

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bad vibes from kilga rn

To me their slot just seems pretty uninteresting and forgettable.
Which i suppose i could also chalk up as bad vibes, but is there anything in particular giving you that impression?

It feels like she’s got an agenda of discrediting Luke

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I'm really suspicious of how Cakez handled the Kakeguri situation. 873, which was posted while Kakeguri was being lightly discussed but had no votes, was pretty enthused for the idea that Kakeguri could be Mafia. The instant people start putting vote pressure in that direction, though (878, 879), he gets cold feet (885). Only after RegRider further forces the issue with his vote in 897 does Cakez finally cast his Kakeguri vote (898), probably with the realization that he can't possibly do anything else in that situation without tying himself even more tightly to Kakeguri.

Maybe it’s just their typing style that doesn’t resonate with me.
It’s so bureaucratical and flat.

It also seems like their scumread on Cakez was retroactively manufactured by looking through their ISO and framing their progression as scum indicative rather than coming to the solution naturally. Mainly i think this because Cakez just hasn’t felt scummy to me and i saw no problem with their progression on Kakeguri.

If this has to do with your bad vibes Gamma, then i agree.

Yeah both of these kinda line up with what I’m thinking. I can’t remember well enough rn to explicitly say “I agree” but I’ll go as far as I can without doing so
VOTE: Kingamayan

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Yukari looks solidly town on play
I think we win if we run a lawn mower through (Sanae, LLD, Kilga, Norwe)

I don’t entirely agree with this order but it’s functional probably

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kilga is at E-1 rn (me, norwee, cakez, sanae)

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I use it during twilight

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mine

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people supporting the idea that the eliminated player was Mafia but finding reasons to not support the train.

This is less strong a tell than you think

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StrangeMatter your predecessor claimed Miller, can you confirm?

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And yet a parity cop said you were the same alignment as Aaron...?

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It was a bait
I don’t feel like you failed per se but I am a little more wary of you

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Aaron targeted you last night
What does yen do, exactly?

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Oh you saw that already

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What was your wish again?

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Okay weird why wasn’t it on the list Reg posted then?

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Actually Komachi doesn’t quite make sense? Idk if this is allowed or even 100% right but I believe Komachi gets the money from the dead not the living.

I feel like it may be Shion or Nitori as their flavor, maybe Reimu.

Also I was going to post this earlier but yeah.

How much have you read so far?

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I thought he’d outed flavor but the best I can find was a false alarm in his crumbing @ LLD

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But yeah I think I’m good keeping SM at or above the level of townread Luke was at

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Public is full game
Loud just alerts the target

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She’s voting you

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Norwee can you revote kilga

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Norwee can you revote kilga

I do probably think Cakez is more likely town than Kilga yeah.

okay so vote Kilga?

Are you that sure they are scum?

Do have a better idea?

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It’s not Kilga’s wish we’re worried about, it’s cakez’s

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how is it you only got 4 wishes anyway? I don't think it's feasible that all the alive people got roleblocked/made inviable wishes. In fact why would roleblocking even be a factor???

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we need people to be more clear about this because I feel like we've still got a couple slots who haven't cleared up what they wished for

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Norwee what is your PoE rn?

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It’s not Kilga’s wish we’re worried about, it’s cakez’s

what do you think I actually did, then?

I have no vote but if I had one it'd be on Cakez

it's hard to take you seriously when you're trying to argue that Lukeslot is a Godfather rather than just admitting you were wrong...

I'm not arguing it, and I said it wasn't worth arguing it until later. But it's a real concern with this mechanic I want people to remember and I want to say it now so when I'm alive later, because I'll be alive later, if it becomes a problem, people will understand I had this fear.

Consider it the setup moves of someone who knows they're going to be alive this entire game and trying to ensure I cover bases. I have to play differently this game.

if there was a GF wouldn't this game also be bastard?

@SirCakez: Are you 100% positive your wish was accepted?

That's what I was told guys
So something funky happened somewhere
Why does this even matter? Clearly a bunch of wishes went missing if Reg only got 4.

Reg could be lying

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Okay so the mod’s just being crazy

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Norwee what is your PoE rn?

I still want this soon

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I don’t think he’s lying atp, it’s most likely just mod error that things went how they did

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VOTE: Sanae
I can go with this

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I'm not sure about it per se but she's like number two in my suspects after kilga

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I'm not sure about it per se but she's like number two in my suspects after kilga

If she's number two why don't you stay on Kilga?

because without your vote I'd need to sway at least one cakez voter and the people there seemed pretty solidly in favor of limming cakez over kilga

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Why does it feel like the deadline’s been slashed???

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Oh it’s because the mod refuses to post VCs regularly

I do VCs based on if votes are moving frequently, which they haven't!

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Anyway for god’s sake can we actually get an elim done soon?

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@Strange and Reg:

PLEASE VOTE ONE OF KILGA/SANAE/CAKEZ

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We’ll see who needs to move after everyone has placed their votes

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Okay; who’s YOUR PoE? Because if we’re looking at a repeat of D1 you and Kilga are the most implicated I’d say

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I think it's between Kilga - LLD - Yukari.

Why LLD? I’m firmly against Yukari rn

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Yeah Kop already flipped 3P so you should forward that to Aaron

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And I kinda feel like LLD might be scum because her role seems to exist to counter Titus+Kop while not having the counter in Kakegurui’s role that Luke does

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I don’t think it makes sense for scum to have 2 interference roles

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VOTE: kilga
I guess I’m not going to be able to use my ability today either, let’s just vote this out and hopefully Round 3 will actually have some real mojo from you clods
This is E-1

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Just do it

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I feel like you should try to act, trying to delay the scum NK

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Tbh if we can effectively coordinate during twilight we can still get that second lim in
We’ll only have 8 hours to actually vote but we have the entire twilight to talk it over

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I just verified we’ll have the Kilga flip to go on when doing the second elim, so who do we think is scum if Kilga flips scum/town? A Kilga townflip probably points to Sanae imo, scumflip idk

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I’m willing if I have it
Idk if I have it.

What’s your suggestion for the second elim?

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I just said yes

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I’ll definitely look at all those as possible choices upon your townflip
The issue is whether one of those can happen will depend on who is present (I’m using the interval of twilight until the original deadline code lapses as a barometer of who would be around to vote for the second elim)

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Uh what???

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Idk, I can’t make heads or tails of what 1349 is actually saying

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I’d feel really sad if Cakez is scum this game but I’m not ignoring that possibility

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Though given the posters we’ve had and the stances expressed I do think Sanae is shaping up to be the choice on Kilga!town

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Idk, I can’t make heads or tails of what 1349 is actually saying

Simply it was I thinking that if Kilga does flip red it seems pretty likely LLD is going to be town. Most of this is based on both what I remember seeing posts about both having something to do with people believing my slot’s role could be Mafia Godfather.

Okay I do remember that
We have a lot of people saying stuff about green flip but nothing about red flip, this isn’t helpful

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Do you think Sanae can be scum with Kilga?

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I DIDN’T REALIZE SUBMITTING IT WOULD TRIGGER IT IMMEDIATELY

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I DIDN’T REALIZE SUBMITTING IT WOULD TRIGGER IT IMMEDIATELY

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VOTE: yukari
Let’s just do this and reg can be on the table for tomorrow

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Pretty sure Cakez/Sanae/Norwee are all town

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Oh I just looked at the VC and LLD doesn’t count towards the elim threshold

No no, that's just error

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What the actual FUCK unwnd

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Cakez+me+Yukari+SM
one other person needs to be online to swing something else

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Sanae is still on
VOTE: RegRider
GOGOGOGO

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We can’t vote out Yukari with our current numbers anyway because we’d only be able to muster 4 votes between me+Cakez+you+Sanae
By voting someone else not present we are able to bring Yukari on board which gives us the needed number of votes
This strategy was employed in similar but different circumstances in Dead Silence 3

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Aaron also might have been the scum kill, which means they could have picked a wish while mitigating the impact of it

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Who do you think could be scum that isn’t Yukari? Until Reg/Norwee posts I’m ignoring Yukari as an option

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Though unless it’s Norwee or LLD we still wouldn’t have the votes

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Also just making sure, this IS a new day, right?

Yes, thread says D3

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VOTE: LLD
I honestly just want her dead because her votelessness makes organizing votes needlessly infuriating

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SM for God’s sake vote something that isn’t Yukari