2235: Gensokyo ~ END ~

[Yukari Yakumo]

Hello~

*yawns

I will see you all in twilight!

[Yukari Yakumo]

Hello~

*yawns

I will see you all in twilight!

You are not gonna be around before then?

It would be interesting to try but I will probably end up being replaced out.
One thing I learned from modding some games here is that people can here can be

angry and impatient

~

[Yukari Yakumo]

Who here actually knows Touhou?

I wonder what this “Touhou” you speak of. It kinda sounds like Tofu. Is it edible as well?

[Yukari Yakumo]

You all overhear something...

"It is in fact, well known that Norwee's are on the brink of extinction in many parts of the world.
Now there are many ways of relating oneself to this. Of the least, one should consider the ethical implications. Is it morally correct for humanity to stand idly by while such an vital part of the ecosystem is threatened? Is an society where Norwee's are no longer allowed to spam anime gifs sustainable in the long run?
It is an difficult question to manage with many lopsided opinions, the lobbies on the left will have you believe that this is rather an preferable development as the right has allowed them to wander in the fields unsupervised for too long and allowed it to become an issue. While the right will counter with the opinion that free-roaming Norwee's are vital in support of the individual expression.
Regardless of the societal consequences, most of the population agrees unanimously that it is not something to turn ones eyes away from. Our politicians has therefore rallied in support of the Contemporary Norwee zoological preservation program, which will solve the issue at hand for at least the next rounded 50 or so years by keeping them force-fed in an sterile cage. Politicians have refused to answer ongoing concerns about the specimen's well-being, replying that as the creature is allowed to shower up to twice a week it is no longer an problem of ethical considerations but rather an political one. "As long as the thing continues to be an threat to the game thread and overall integrity, it is best to keep it there. Forever."

Somebody in this game really did not appreciate Norwee’s two posts of YouTube videos…

[Yukari Yakumo]

GOOOOOOOOD BLEEEEEEEES AMEEEEEEERIICAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiler:

[Yukari Yakumo]

No no no, she said "Boo Hoo" like the sound I make when I get bounced off one of the trains you summon form your gap portals in Hisotensoku.

I love playing as Marisa in that game...

I main Meiling because I like torturing myself.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Ugh, Yumeko what kind of weird game did you drag me into. Do you expect me to play with these losers clearly below me?

Whatever, they'll make for good entertainment

VOTE: Yukari
[REMOVED FOR UGLY GIF]

I mean if you don’t want to play this weird game it is within my power to eject you from Gensokyo :^)

[Yukari Yakumo]

(Flavor wise. I neither confirm or deny whether I can do it in game.)

[Yukari Yakumo]

I have never played touhou before, and am flying in a little blind.

I mainly wanted to join unwnds next game after spectating yggdrasil

Any thoughts on the weird post about norwee from the mod?

It’s probably some loud messaging ability from a player and no more.
Although I did notice that Norwee has one vote on him despite two players voting for him.

Formatting error ~ze

[Yukari Yakumo]

Btw if anyone is curious that long post is definitely from Norwee.

[Yukari Yakumo]

You sound like a Jester

Luckily jester doesn't exist in this game!

This is quite the confident claim. Any insight into Norwee’s aim?

To shitpost, probably.

It is a direct contradiction to 46

It is!
It's because my post 70 came after an epiphany.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Why can't Jester exist in this game?

Is it possible your game has any of the following bastard roles or mechanics? cults, mid-game alignment changes, moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated (for example, Godfather, Tailor, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine. Telling someone they are a reflexive doctor when they're actually a PGO is not), secret win conditions, un-divulged non-randomness in player role/alignment generation, direct moderator influence during the game.

No!

Now that I look at it, the list doesn't include Jester. But Jester is universally considered as a bastard role in this site and saying "No" to "is this game bastard?" question means that there is no jester in this game.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Sneaky beings such as I flit in and out. When I have thoughts, naturally, the game will receive them. I am currently searching for a dance partner and have yet to find one. Perhaps I'll have to make do with the kind sir with the red hair if this continues - he seems like the best dancer here.

Translation: Mind yer own dang bees knees. Anyway, dis Gamma Emerald fella looks mighty fine so I'm gunna slap sum o' dat townread right there.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Jester is only partially considered bastard. Now don’t you feel rather awkward?

(There are some mechanics, such as Jesters, which are considered to be bastard by many players despite not appearing on this list, but moderators rarely place Jesters in non-Open games and thus players are normally forewarned in that situation.)

Not really, no.

[Yukari Yakumo]

What is a town crier? I have yet to hear of such a thing.

Basically a player PMs a message to mod and mod posts the message for that player.

[Yukari Yakumo]

[Yukari Yakumo]

What a wonderful post to alt-slip with.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Are we roleplaying now, lol

Always have been

[Yukari Yakumo]

I just realized that if I am to properly roleplay I need to actually lurk until twilight which is not possible due to the fact that I will be replaced. Slightly less lazy Yukari it is.

[Yukari Yakumo]

But, I don't know that that would really matter in this flavor? Never played these games

Flavor actually matters a lot because if you understand the flavor you can kinda guess what kind of role they have.
As for me, I have 0 reason to hide my flavor because anyone who knows Touhou will know what I picked when I joined as this alt lol.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Oh yeah tea party could be fun. Let me grab the tea real quick.

*opens a small gap and puts hand in*

Any particular brew you enjoy the most? This mansion has a quite of collection so I’m sure it will have what you like.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Good thing nobody will be able to guess who I am!

*Raises hand*

Ooh I know!
Is it Reimu?

[Yukari Yakumo]

TYPICALLY an voteless role is just not on the list, but now they have an* by their name.
Sounds kinda fishy to me.

I’m not worried to be honest.
I’m not the princess.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Usually games count both formats.
Let’s see if this one counts.

Norwee

[Yukari Yakumo]

Vote: Norwee

I’m too used to vote tags lmao

[Yukari Yakumo]

Now you made me vote.
I was going to save my glorious first vote for one of the inevitable SDM crew claim.

[Yukari Yakumo]

So basically i have the ability to pm the moderator 3 times per day and they will say whatever i want. This is an pretty meme ability to have for town so i'm just leaving it claimed.

10 points for Yukari!
Although you really shouldn’t have claimed the second half.

[Yukari Yakumo]

@Lukewarm- Aaron has made zero effort to actually scum hunt in the thread, only dance. That being said, I am debating moving my vote to SirCakez. His defense on Aaron is too strong and aggressive for a slot that has no content.

Did he though?
As far as I’m aware dude announced two townreads which is more effort than half of the playerlist so far.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I am also going to say that I didn’t really like the timing of Norwee’s claim, which happened right after potentially fueling LLD’s ire. That kinda read like a panic defense to me.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I am also going to say that I didn’t really like the timing of Norwee’s claim, which happened right after potentially fueling LLD’s ire. That kinda read like a panic defense to me.

I agree, it almost feels like he setup his provable role section, then waited for pressure, and then claimed and slipped in the second part and was like "look townie power".

I... I am hesitant.

I don’t doubt the claim itself.
I just think there is some scum equity in the timing of the claim.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Now here is the biggest question in this thread: do I want to townread Titus this early?
Townreading Titus this early is an incident by itself.

[Yukari Yakumo]

That’s the definition of “panic” yes.

[Yukari Yakumo]

By the way a quick suggestion, our eliminations should have acceleration.

What does this mean?

I am not sure myself, but we do have a bit over 5 days left.
Because 7 days deadline.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Read lists are overrated so instead this is a list of “would I vote Day 1?” so far.

Lukewarm - Yes
Kakeguri Addicts - Yes
Sanae - Yes
NorweegianboyEE - just parking vote atm
Yukari Yakumo -

Yes

No
Kilgamayan - No
Lady Lambdadelta - No
SirCakez - Yes
Kop - Yes
Titus - No
Aaron - No
Gamma Emerald - Yes
RegRider - Yes

[Yukari Yakumo]

Moron, can't you see the obvious in that Titus is soooo obvious town?

You sound like you've had plenty of experience with Titus and yet you have a completely naïve opinion about Titus. Explain to me about what makes Titus obvious town and why the posts she made are outside of her scum game.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Yukari? Do you actually scumread them?

To be fair if you play any of the Touhou fangames that contains Yukari 98% Yukari is the scum of the earth who just trolls you for about 80% of the game.

[Yukari Yakumo]

It just reeks of calculated stances. It feels like they're playing a very closed off game already having information we don't.

This is actually a huge compliment for me because this means I'm roleplaying Yukari correctly :3

[Yukari Yakumo]

Huh? What does Titus scum range have to do with any of it? I'm just calling Titus obv town because I like what they've posted the most in this game with the attacks, it fits their personality to a T that I've seen from Titus before. If Titus is scum I expect a little something from them...I'll let you know if I see it. For now, they're a villa.

If you were to read people based on what range they'd have well you would always have me as a ??? Given I have the best range out of anyone in this playlist. The best scum player around, me!

I asked because it looked awfully confident for a page 10 post. But if your stance was actually "Oh Titus can be town for now," then I have no qualms with it.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Go ahead and quote what posts are pure RP and what are your real stances, I'll wait. (this is gonna be good)

I'm confused. I never separated those two. So if I were to quote I'll have to quote my entire ISO.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Btw if anyone is curious that long post is definitely from Norwee.

This, for an example, of presenting my own opinion (stance) while keeping the tone of Yukari (RP). I said it as confidently as possible like this so I look like I know something that people don't, when in fact all it takes to know the game context and see who was the biggest shitposter at the time what were around.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Who is outside of their scum range on page 10?

Why does a strong town read day 1 have to be outside of their scum range?

Explained in my post after.

Who are you town reading?

Already posted!

[Yukari Yakumo]

Read lists are overrated so instead this is a list of “would I vote Day 1?” so far.

Lukewarm - Yes
Kakeguri Addicts - Yes
Sanae - Yes
NorweegianboyEE - just parking vote atm
Yukari Yakumo -

Yes

No
Kilgamayan - No
Lady Lambdadelta - No
SirCakez - Yes
Kop - Yes
Titus - No
Aaron - No
Gamma Emerald - Yes
RegRider - Yes

[Yukari Yakumo]

I like how I instinctly knew that it was Maria posting even without knowing who the hydra members are.

[Yukari Yakumo]

You're not actually giving an read on me though Yukari.

Good observation.
I did that on purpose too!

[Yukari Yakumo]

Wait? You were also townreading Titus ? x.x

Read strength were not included in that list. Because imagine giving proper read list.
If I were to actually explain that read it would be towards "eh she's trying the hardest here I have 0 reason to vote her Day 1."

[Yukari Yakumo]

So how are we supposed to tell which is which in the Kakeguri hydra.

If they're posting like something is missing from their brain, it's Maria. If they're posting like a reasonable person, it's the other.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Wait? You were also townreading Titus ? x.x

Read strength were not included in that list. Because imagine giving proper read list.
If I were to actually explain that read it would be towards "eh she's trying the hardest here I have 0 reason to vote her Day 1."

Addendum:

Now here is the biggest question in this thread: do I want to townread Titus this early?
Townreading Titus this early is an incident by itself.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I like Rag's stance on Aaron, maybe even more depending on the reasoning. We'll see~

I don't know. I like Aaron!

[Yukari Yakumo]

No no, I'm saying I like Rag's

stance

on Aaron not that I agree with it. Do I always have to spell it out for you losers?

Is it because it came out of nowhere and goes against the general consensus and your inner rebel yelled at you excitedly going "YEESSSSSSSSSS" ?

[Yukari Yakumo]

So is it ok to assume that Reg wants Aaron gone because of the roleplaying? Several people asked why and all he said are two “down with filthy RPers” posts.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Concerning to read that in a game with 7 days deadline with one person MIA (as in didn't even post a single post).

[Yukari Yakumo]

also this is ridiculous - literally one person claimed

Is that the one you found the most concerning about that post?

[Yukari Yakumo]

Titus can you locate a problem in Reg’s 283? I personally think it’s a pretty big one.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Titus can you locate a problem in Reg’s 283? I personally think it’s a pretty big one.

Two. One pointed out by SirCakez. The other is the suggestion "We have a hydra". There's an explaination for it but it's not good.

What about the part where he said he will ISO Norwee exclusively despite having him as the only townread in this game?
It's not like there weren't any good alternatives to ISO.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Can you quote the posts?

<_<

Titus can you locate a problem in Reg’s 283? I personally think it’s a pretty big one.

Also, what are you tentatively seeing?

Oh, that was directed at me? Right now, not much. We have a Hydra, so maybe I'll wait until the other person gets on. I think Town already outted too many roles. I don't have the motivation atm but I'll ISO Norwee and see what I think then.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Not impossible but improbable.

VOTE: RegRider

What is?

[Yukari Yakumo]

Can we please drop this “RegRider will/won’t share offsite games?”
People have different opinions about internet insecurities, and pursuing that matter only yields in noise that has nothing to do with game relevant content, especially when he isn’t posting much and only engaging on contents that are not game related 80% of the time already?

What is the explanation when it comes to the "we have a hydra" comment?

Just who is we...

He clearly meant the game as a whole there.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Their first few posts were pure role play

Her second post was literally stating (early) townread on Titus though.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Oh by the way consider my vote is on RegRider right now spiritually.
My vote on Norwee serves absolutely no meaning at this moment, but it's too comfortable to move away from there.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Trying not to multi-post too much but I apparently keep finding things to comment on.

I naturally have very little time to spend on Mafia, and there are already way too many posts for Day 1.

16 pages in a game with 7 days deadline is... equivalent to 8 pages so far in a game with regular deadline. If anything the content is lacking and this game is slow.

With that said, it is entirely possible that Sanae went heavy on pure roleplay so it's easier to not provide content, and brings up the "let's stop RPing now so scum can't hide " when multiple people presents distaste for amount of RP going on to quickly join the winning side to hide in. But for now, it's really just a piece of conjecture that I just thought up.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I don't think you are sorting me.

What posts of yours exactly do you think you can be sorted with?

[Yukari Yakumo]

I’m keeping my emotions under regulation, but there’s a train that should yet leave the station. Wagoning me risks an untimely surprise, one I expect we lack the time to utilize.

There are no trains in Gensokyo.
Neither are busses.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Jesus christ there are 3 days left wtf are we doing. WHO KILL?

I've been warning about the short deadline for a while now.

[Yukari Yakumo]

What do you think about Gamma's vote on me.

Given that up to this very question you've managed to only make comments that skirted around the part of the game that you should've really focused instead, I agreed.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I am kinda annoyed at this game though because quite a chunk of people were either busy (understandable), just flat out looked unmotivated to do anything, or "oh I do better at Day 2."
I better see some flipping solid Day 2 or I am going to throw a fit.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Can we just do Gamma. I don't like their vibes this game, and i think Regrider is town so their: "just gonna park" vote onto Reg that made the third vote is a bit suspect.

But how about me, who literally said my vote was on RegRider spiritually?

[Yukari Yakumo]

You agreed to the lynch or their nonexistent reasoning?

It's more of "I have my own reason to do things and my reasoning is superior."

By the by, usage of L-word is forbidden on this site.

[Yukari Yakumo]

So why isn't your vote on me? You think I'm scum but don't want to vote me?

I'm kinda surprised nobody asked this until now!
All I'm going to say to this is that I would've voted you in normal circumstances.

[Yukari Yakumo]

You can't change your vote.

I can. It's just not advantageous of me to move it around too much.

[Yukari Yakumo]

for me*
English hard

[Yukari Yakumo]

Oh yeah Reg claim your flavor.

[Yukari Yakumo]

By the way a quick suggestion, our eliminations should have acceleration.

What does this mean?

I am not sure myself, but we do have a bit over 5 days left.
Because 7 days deadline.

Concerning to read that in a game with 7 days deadline with one person MIA (as in didn't even post a single post).

Jesus christ there are 3 days left wtf are we doing. WHO KILL?

I've been warning about the short deadline for a while now.

I’ve been warning about short deadline for quite a while.
The fact that despite my multiple posts about warning about short deadline people are NOW realizing this is honestly kinda sketchy. Because it means game is now heading towards “oh noooo deadline” compromise wagon.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I’d want to wait for Reg’s flavor claim first.
Because if his flavor is what I think it is, his role makes no sense.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Yeah, I hate this post. I was already typing up my last one that ended with a vote on you, so this makes me feel a bit better.

You may hate it, but am I wrong?

[Yukari Yakumo]

What has lead you to already have a guess at his flavor?

Literally his first two posts.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Kinda yes. It’s too wild and random. And it fits neither of the four girls he named. So I want him to claim his flavor and paraphrase how his power is explained.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I have already thought that far. If his claim is believable, we can literally wish to cop the designated target every day. (Personally I’d like to be confirmed town first but it’s just my wish.)

[Yukari Yakumo]

For reads though, honestly mine are pretty weak.

LLD is probably not caring as much about the game because she’s immortal and voteless. I don’t think scum would be immortal.
Kilga is “oh I’m a better player at Day 2.”
Titus is probably town if only for trying hardest
Kop has 1 post and spent 60% of that for something irrelevant to discerning alignments.
Kakeguri’s presence is waning.
Aaron is also probably town for trying to interact with everyone.
Reg I scumread him because it looked like he was purposefully avoiding posting something that could hint at his alignment but hey “I can grant your wildest dreams come true.”
Norwee is apparently town by claim
Cakes’ posts are pretty weak
You asked lot of questions but you didn’t really give out much.
Sanae has done basically nothing.

If Reg is out of the question my next bet is probably Sanae. (See: my conjecture.) Her going after Kilga for “not sorting her” was kinda weird too. Kop would be “if we are burning a D1 lim to get rid of someone completely useless that slot is it.”

Basically half of the people didn’t contribute enough for me to get more solid reads.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Oh wait he pick the wish not random.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Exactly what have I distracted people from?
If anything when I was around I bolstered the discussion.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Yukari why does it feel like you’re trying really really hard to not commit on a read on me?

Because it’s fun to keep you in suspense. I would have no reason to do this otherwise regardless of my alignment.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Fits flavour.

I still would like to be loud cop’d if possible.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I expect any wishes granted have a cost. Why is that a detail that ended up lost?
VOTE: RegRider
Unless the answer satiates my concern, I think that this player must burn.

10) Knowing the flavor will make me happy, but relying on it will get you burned. Don't. Do. It.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Who else thought about the cost thing? And you didn't get an answer.

Titus

just c/p'd rule 10.

I expect any wishes granted have a cost. Why is that a detail that ended up lost?
VOTE: RegRider
Unless the answer satiates my concern, I think that this player must burn.

10) Knowing the flavor will make me happy, but relying on it will get you burned. Don't. Do. It.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I think Kilga is probably town too.

[Yukari Yakumo]

So did you just admit to using cryptic messages in an attempt to send a message to LLD only?
Wasn’t cryptic messages against site rules?

[Yukari Yakumo]

If Reg conftowns me and Luke hide behind LLD…
Won’t that confirm two people out of the bat?

[Yukari Yakumo]

If Luke is scum and does not die he will have to clear LLD.
If Luke is a real hider he will confirm LLD’s alignment.

[Yukari Yakumo]

And that the fact Luke tried to tailor the crumb to LLD suggests that they are not both scum together.

[Yukari Yakumo]

And as for why I keep asking to be confirmed, I believe that my being confirmed town will be highly advantageous to town, even more so than the double elim option.

[Yukari Yakumo]

So if Luke is scum fakeclaiming hider, he messed up really big. Because he will have to keep confirming towns every night and can't use excuses such as "oh I was roleblocked" or "oh my target died."

[Yukari Yakumo]

If Luke is scum and does not die he will have to clear LLD.
If Luke is a real hider he will confirm LLD’s alignment.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Why not green Reimu?

[Yukari Yakumo]

Who?

Sanae.

[Yukari Yakumo]

And yeah I apparently mistook weak role with hider.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Why them?

Actually hold. I'm doing a PBPA and I'm finding things I've missed.

[Yukari Yakumo]

13, 14, 61, 72 : RVS
71, 75, 78, 79 : Jester hunting. Kinda weird that instead of thinking whether I'm town or mafia, her immediate assumption was that I am a jester.
85, 92, 105, 108 : Pure RP.
124 : Thought it was a pure RP but on a second look this could be showing townread on Aaron.
133 : Flavor claim.
289 : vote on Lukewarm.

First content she have posted in this game.

Disproven.
296 : "We should stop RPing so people scumhunt." Remember this post.
298 : Suggests that one of the people who hates RP must be scum.
400 : Votes Kilga. I still hate this post though. While I've been jabbing Kilga as "I do better at Day 2" person, I think Kilga had pretty solid posts across few posts made. But in my second read, I probably hated it because I didn't like her reasoning. Which should be more null.
401 : Apparently I missed that Sanae was busy irl. I guess that explains some things for me.
405 : Continuation of "Kilga isn't sorting me."
546 : I guess this post is ok except for one thing. Do you remember the post I told you to remember? She's the one who said "let's stop RPing to get more contents in" and now she's here complaining that they didn't let her RP. Either I missed a hint somewhere or this doesn't add up. I also don't remember anyone going "Sanae is scum for stopping RPing" so I'll have to reread around that area to find out.

All in all, I guess I am still not against limming her. Her 546 sucks. I'm going to drop "she didn't do anything" part now though.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Hmm.

Let's throw a little curve ball.

Why should SirCakez live past Day 1?

[Yukari Yakumo]

Actually today is probably not a good day to throw a curveball.
I'm gonna come up with a list of 2 or 3 to vote today.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I'd vote either of {Gamma, Kop, SirCakez, Sanae}
I wouldn't be terribly against Kakeguri either but I think if Maria is town time will probably tell.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Oh ok so Lukewarm is claiming bulletproof hider?

No?

I cannot be killed because being a hider makes me immune to the night kill...

What if your hiding makes the action fail?
If you want the wish you cannot hide tonight.
I asked the mod earlier about whether hiding would make the wish fail but the mod refused to clarify.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Also someone should make a wish about making RegRider a PGO for night 1.
That way scum can’t go after him.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Also someone should make a wish about making RegRider a PGO for night 1.
That way scum can’t go after him.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Also you've got your facts wrong. Hiders can be night killed. If hiders hide behind the night killed person, they die so I don't know what you mean by you can't be killed.

I assumed that he assumed that already.
Plus if he hide behind LLD, who can’t be nightkilled, he can’t be killed so

[Yukari Yakumo]

Not wanting NorwegianboyEE. I will hammer to eliminate someone but I doubt they're flipping scum.

Give hammer to me.
I am not flexible with my vote.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Oh I forgot I’m still voting Norwee.
Oh well I guess if he’s end up limmed I won’t have to move my vote.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I'm still a no on Kilga.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I'm still going to wish for my alignment reveal :shrug:

[Yukari Yakumo]

I've been only sleeping like 3 hours a day for last 4 days.
I'd really like the wagon to be solidified so I can adjust (or stay) my vote and go to sleep.
Currently I am relying on watching animu to keep me awake.
A flipping animu.

[Yukari Yakumo]

If Kakeguri reaches L-2 I'll vote there.

[Yukari Yakumo]

VOTE: Kakeguri

E-1.

I'm going to sleep.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Wait shoot do I need to wait for twilight to get the wish submitted?

[Yukari Yakumo]

Hmm, I wonder if a presence of third party means the setup is 9:2:1.

[Yukari Yakumo]

10:2:1*
I can math I swear.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Killing Kakeguri was really good tho. They were a hard counter to my role, and I would also be dead right now if we had voted anyone else out Day 1

Norwee's role also counters you.
I asked few questions to the mod regarding delayer ability.

Yukari, what was your wish?

As I said yesterday, to make my alignment known publicly. Clearly it didn't get picked.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Shouldn't be hard for RegRider to confirm my wish submission, since I made sure to put my name in the wish instead of "I."

[Yukari Yakumo]

I'm guessing that either the wagon ping or parity cop thing got picked.
So I'm waiting for RegRider to show up.

[Yukari Yakumo]

That is certainly weird.
I'm gonna go check something real quick.

[Yukari Yakumo]

That my wish did not show up on his list.
I didn't get any response from mod that my wish was too broken or anything.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Ok I have a reason to believe that my wish was not modified.
I guess I got roleblocked.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I guess scum really didn’t want me to be confirmed town lol.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Oh never mind. My wish didn’t get accepted.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Apparently parity cop and random confirm is ok but revealing alignment of specific player is not.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I guess that also explains why Reg only got 4 submissions.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Also last wish messed up and did not ask for public confirm.
I hope whoever made that wish isn’t dead.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Just to confirm what Yukari has said, I just pmed the mod to ask if I had submitted the wish "I want Lukewarms alignment to be publically revealed to the thread" would the wish be accepted, and the mod confirmed that that wish would not have been accepted.

I did not get a good explanation as to why that would not be allowed.

Dang I should've asked first without just blatantly submitting my wish eh

[Yukari Yakumo]

Also oh hey Luke is town.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Is your double elimination 1-shot or multi-shot?

[Yukari Yakumo]

My voting pool today is:
{Sanae, SirCakez}

[Yukari Yakumo]

Worst case scenario is 9:3:1 and two groupscum left.
We just need to get 5 correct universal townreads and we win.
One of us is confirmed town who cannot die.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Even better yet, if we can somehow confirm LLD’s alignment, we win.

[Yukari Yakumo]

In my pov anyway.
Technically I’m not confirmed town.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Even better yet, if we can somehow confirm LLD’s alignment, we win.

Hmm I need one more actually.
LLD is voteless.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Man I have this paranoia Luke is a godfather from how hard Luke pushed to be copped.

And Hider claim is an excellent way not to die even after being confirmed...

Luke needs to be voted out the day BEFORE ELO if he's still alive. Just saying.

I would

maybe

consider this if there is a cop claim at all.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Oh yeah Gamma
If you use a double lim, does it advance a day upon first lim?
It’s important.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Is it bad that I want to UTLim Norwee just because his delayer can delay the hiding?

[Yukari Yakumo]

Oh yeah Gamma
If you use a double lim, does it advance a day upon first lim?
It’s important.

I think it does, there's a thing about night happening still
so it's I guess more akin to a night skipper than a double dayer, but either way I think it's kinda crazy to think my role would be scum

I asked because it has to do with my voting restriction. I don't think your role is scum no.

[Yukari Yakumo]

hmmm
kinda suspect Kakegurui was moreso avoiding having reads on their partners entirely, reading the ISO
I saw them take a wide range of interactions with town or probtown slots but they seemed averse to interacting with anyone in my current scumpool except norwee, which probably townspews him

I don't really

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read Norwee ftr.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Do we think massclaim today is a good idea, by the by?

[Yukari Yakumo]

My guess is that Aaron did not get his result because he died.
Also if we are putting Kilga at E-1 shouldn't Gamma pop his power like now?

[Yukari Yakumo]

VOTE: SirCakez

[Yukari Yakumo]

I don't know I think those two explained it pretty decently around their votes.

[Yukari Yakumo]

For me, it's PoE.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I think we should lim by tomorrow so we can make use of the double lim day.

[Yukari Yakumo]

「 Doujin 」

Votecount 2.Yukari

2hu Girls:

Kilgamayan [3]: Gamma Emerald, SirCakez, Sanae
SirCakez [3]: Kilgamayan, Lukewarm, Yukari Yakumo

Not Voting: (3) Lady Lambdadelta*, RegRider, NorweegianboyEE

With 9 alive it takes 5 to eliminate. D2 ends in (expired on 2021-09-24 00:25:25).

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[Yukari Yakumo]

Well, Lukewarm = StrangeMatter but we all know this.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Seeing as how Yukari seemed to have some kind of finger of suspicion on Sanae for day one, has anything changed since then @Yukari Yakumo?

No not really. I think Kilga is town thus I'm just sitting here waiting patiently until I see a flip.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I know but she's literally just sitting there and let Kilga die basically

Few reasons.

1) Not a hard townread compared to rest of my townreads
2) I think if he flips it will give a lot of info regardless my read on him
3) Lazy and tired irl but this is not really a game factor

[Yukari Yakumo]

FTR my wish was "accepted" (mod's word) as in it was successfully submitted. And then it was rejected because it was too powerful.
That angle is pointless to pursue.

With that said

Limited access until 24th

[Yukari Yakumo]

btw if we are having a hard time reaching a consensus we should at least agree on two people to lim beforehand.
I do want gamma’s ability used.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I will move my vote if we are absolutely sure about limming Sanae.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Actually I might as well claim this part of my role.
I can only vote 3 times a day. Violating this causes me to get fed up and leave the game to go to sleep (…).
So I’m not really in position to shift my wagon choices too much.

[Yukari Yakumo]

He did claim that he can skip a night.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Oh it’s because the mod refuses to post VCs regularly

I do VCs based on if votes are moving frequently, which they haven't!

So I guess moving forward ppl need to spam vote and unvote
Which I can’t do :^)

[Yukari Yakumo]

Oh nvm I read it wrong

[Yukari Yakumo]

I will hammer any wagon that reaches E-1.
I won’t be happy doing that for certain wagons.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I'm 85% sure LLD did not claim fully. I have a conjecture but I won't be speculating that openly. I do think she's town.
If we're talking about which role makes most sense for scum it's Norwee's so (imagine being able to delay hider).

[Yukari Yakumo]

This does not mean I think Norwee's

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btw.
I don't think we should speculate alignment based on role too much though. Kakeguri's role was going to be "ok this role can't be scum" had they claimed it so.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I think Kilga town flip just solidifies Cakez/Sanae for me.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Wow I really misread that one huh.

I'm a doctor btw. I can only protect from a single kill though.

[Yukari Yakumo]

N1 was on Reg because I really wanted him to grant the wish and my protect being able to protect only one kill most likely meant no scum strongman.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I mean I'm at E-1 with rushed call for hammer.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I don't mind being voted out honestly. But if I'm left alive I'm guaranteed to eat nightkill over any other stronger townread slots.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Like if I'm not limmed today I'm gonna be on Gamma.
If Gamma somehow dies tonight you know it's gonna be one of Norwee/Cakez (and me I guess but if I'm scum, killing Gamma after claiming to protect him would be shooting myself on the foot).
If I die there's that and I can just chill in dead PT while the rest of y'all figure the game out.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Yukari, can you say what your flavor is?

Take a good guess.

[Yukari Yakumo]

No it's Yukari.

And yes I'm claiming doctor as Yukari. Trust me, I know my source materials enough to mod two Touhou large themes and doctor is not what I would've came up as a fakeclaim as scum.

[Yukari Yakumo]

If you want someone else I think you need to be quick about voicing opinion.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I personally don't think Reg is flipping scum btw.
But hey I've been wrong once.

[Yukari Yakumo]

First, why would you confirm an argument is TvT, and also confirm one? That just doesn't make sense as scum unless scum wanted to specifically play into that.

Picking first two wish would've put a heavy suspicion on him, Luke claimed hider which is unkillable, and LLD is also unkillable.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I think if you believe my role, then I'm 99% confirmed town to you.

[Yukari Yakumo]

You is in general sense.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Also just making sure, this IS a new day, right?

[Yukari Yakumo]

I see no possibility of LLD being scum after scum protective flip.

[Yukari Yakumo]

VOTE: RegRider

If I'm to choose between LLD and Reg I'm going to vote for Reg.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Either way F for Gamma for popping this 2 hours before deadline.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I still think they are scum. So i’m holstering tonight so that there won’t be anything like: "Did Yukari protect or was Regrider blocked??" Confusing nonsense.

I’ve openly claimed that I will be on Gamma.
I think you should still be on Reg because even if scum decides to no-kill it gives us more chance at eliminating scum via vote. I just woke up so I didn’t do any math though.

[Yukari Yakumo]

If Norwee delays you and there is a kill you become confirmed town.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I think you should still be on Reg because even if scum decides to no-kill it gives us more chance at eliminating scum via vote.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Mafia skipping kill is already in calculation.
If Mafia skips kill we gain initiative.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Like think about it.
We have a confirmed town that is unkillable.
We have someone who literally cannot be killed.
We have a claimed doctor.
We have a claimed delayer.

If we all use our abilities we are forcing the last scum to make a decision to whether they should 1) skip killing in order to avoid confirming players 2) gamble a kill to kill un-mislimable town while risking confirming someone.
As long as mafia keep skipping kills in fear of confirming others we the town gain initiative.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Also IF a nightkill is end up being delayed tonight, we will surely know by Day 5.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Don't fear what Mafia might or might not do.
Make Mafia fear what we might or might not do.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Heck even delaying me is better than not using delay.
Although if that's in the option I need to wifom between saving Gamma or Norwee.

[Yukari Yakumo]

If you really want to have a gotcha moment you can random between {Player 1, Player 2, Skip delay}.

[Yukari Yakumo]

And before you ask, there IS a difference between declaring that you won't target anyone and declaring that MAYBE you won't target anyone.

[Yukari Yakumo]

What do you mean by OS?

[Yukari Yakumo]

Oh. I can protect every day. It's just that I can protect against a single kill. (E.G. I won't be able to save if both mafia and SK kill my target)
With vig and SK dead, I'm pretty sure it's basically a full protect though.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Let's hope norwee used the delay so we can have confirmed town.

[Yukari Yakumo]

inb4 delay used on me

[Yukari Yakumo]

Sigh.

I really wanted him to use the ability because it would most likely clear Norwee in the process if there is a nightkill (I doubt scum faction has multitasking built-in).

[Yukari Yakumo]

And by that I'm just assuming Norweegian used his doctor ability on Yukari

afaik he doesn't have doctor ability.

[Yukari Yakumo]

We literally have 3 lims to get scum.
Reg is conftown and so is SM.
We just need 2 correct universal townreads and we win.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I don’t remember why, but i do feel like Strange is sorta townie.

Maybe it's because SM is cop-cleared.

[Yukari Yakumo]

ok it's 3 lims only if LLD is included and is limmed before F3.
I keep forgetting LLD's votelessness when doing math.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I mean Norwee either dies tonight

Scum won't be able to go after Norwee while I'm still alive.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Ok we actually need to solve the game within 2 pools.
LLD does not need to be cleared with night actions because if she is scum we’ll know by F3.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Like if LLD is town and we reach F3 (with 2 votes available) scum can just force no elim.
If LLD is scum no remaining town will try to force no elim.

[Yukari Yakumo]

Actually, can scum even win at this point lol
If LLD and SM are both town scum can’t even touch them even if they force no lim at F3.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I think it was obvious that she had to have a way to get a vote back?
Like otherwise her vote wouldn’t have a star next to it.

[Yukari Yakumo]

I thought it had to do with Kaguya or her immortality only being 1-shot and losing that getting her vote back though so I didn’t openly speculate.