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Why you have me as town but unsure here? I’m sorry but most of my posts I don’t feel like makes sense before this point to be particularly townie.In post 172, mastina wrote:In post 127, Dwlee99 wrote:Maybe a flavor claim would be in orderSpoiler: These Images' Common Thread
Rogue > Suripoko > jjh927 > LLD > skitter30T++:
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I don’t really understand the LLD vs Dwlee argument happening. What was this about initially?-
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Too little too late now.In post 305, SirCakez wrote:
LOL I still feel bad about thatIn post 277, StrangeMatter wrote:UNVOTE:
Don’t particularly like Dwlee being at 5 votes (E-2) at the moment. I really don’t want to repeat the llay that happened to me in SCP Upick.-
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Well, putting it that way I have played games with them and seen their scum gameplay, been fooled by them before, and have seen more of their scum games than games I've played with people I have played with in this game. So it is a holdover from a prior game that makes me put them as potential scum to be worried about.In post 334, The Bombay wrote:
I would say that a good portion of this playerlist has good scum games. Is there something from this game that made you worried about Dwlee in particular, or is this entirely a holdover from a prior game?In post 191, StrangeMatter wrote:Also, I'm worried about Dwlee being scum at this point since I've seen his scum game play and they are really good at it so...I'm keeping a closer eye on them.-
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Currently no hard scumreads though those are normally very difficult. Dwlee I feel is in a weird place. The reaction they had and the conversation devolves into nonsensical noise that goes nowhere is scummy to me. I agree with some parts of LLD's posts when I read them such as #208 about flavor claiming being not a great idea since most of the time they are tied to the role itself. I think that this is a comment that isn't easily made by scum that I townlean them.In post 345, The Bombay wrote:
Ignoring your past game paranoia, what would be your read on Dwlee so far?In post 343, StrangeMatter wrote:
Well, putting it that way I have played games with them and seen their scum gameplay, been fooled by them before, and have seen more of their scum games than games I've played with people I have played with in this game. So it is a holdover from a prior game that makes me put them as potential scum to be worried about.In post 334, The Bombay wrote:
I would say that a good portion of this playerlist has good scum games. Is there something from this game that made you worried about Dwlee in particular, or is this entirely a holdover from a prior game?In post 191, StrangeMatter wrote:Also, I'm worried about Dwlee being scum at this point since I've seen his scum game play and they are really good at it so...I'm keeping a closer eye on them.
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I'm really not following this thought process, and I'm just wondering if it was scum just using a weak excuse to jump on to be the 5th person on the Dwlee wagon? I have seen people townread off of a dumb tunnel and all, yet every time I read 228 I don't get how they got to this point.In post 232, Rogue wrote:Update on further reading I still don’t like it
VOTE: dwlee
I don’t like how they keep flip flopping with their LLD stance while their vote is still there- 228 feels very much like something you’d say to a townread you think is in a dumb tunnel… which doesn’t bode well cognitively with the whole… ya kno… vote on LLD?
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I missed a lot I had initially typed that on a phone but it got deleted and hastily made that. I was thinking about the Dwlee wagon and people who were at some point on it which didn't sit well with me so I wanted to dig into that a little more and this one stuck out a bit to me (they unvoted later which I hadn't mentioned).-
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That makes a little more sense, I viewed it from what was worded as "I think he was trying to townread them but it just doesn't make sense with the rest of their posts." which I did not get how that conclusion was made. As for bringing it up earlier I hadn't seen said post and was mostly looking into the Dwlee and LLD argument.In post 415, Rogue wrote:
Does this not read as a chastise to you, SM? Basically I don’t understand why someone who is voting another person (because they scumread them, not for another reason it doesn’t seem) says something like this?In post 228, Dwlee99 wrote:It's also to say if you are town there is still time to back up and not do this crap
Like, when I’m reading this post I hear “Back off this push and I’ll back off”
Like that was the first post of the back and forth I saw after I finished eating and that was my first reaction to it.
What do you view it as? Why didn’t you bring it up earlier when I asked for more input :/-
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Why was SirCakez concerning? I don't feel like you've ever elaborated on this and it's just not been talked about it.In post 90, That Idiot Ivan wrote:SirCakez is concerning.
Rogue is better than null on the town side, but given the players I'm not taking that to the bank any time soon.
I'm also ignoring that chess game unless someone says I have to pay attention to it. Chess is really not my thing.
P-edit: okay, fine, I'll keep half an eye on it. Cats are such assholes.-
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How many of us DID get boxes? I didn't get the time to say this but I did get a box myself and it just disappeared as well.
Also I have seen some really dumb stuff by Town (See SCP Upick, and otherwise I have seen it on offsite stuff) to say that I don't feel like a Suripoko elim would be super easy to orchestrate and go through as scum. I don't like their play and need to look into this more, but it's the type of play taken advantage of more often.-
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Suspecting there’s likely one (two has potential but not as likely) of {Rogue, SirCakez, That Idiot Ivan} as said above. I want to look more into these right now, though continuing on a conversation about this is pointless and a waste of time.
I’m wondering, what compelled you to bring this up?In post 702, Rogue wrote:I think it's interesting the amount of people who have entirely glossed over that hammer.
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There’s literally no other way to answer this well without just saying what actually happened, which was with the limited time (sorry if I didn’t V/LA) but I want to put out things that I find that stick out to me over the amount of noise that was day 1 with massively limited time.In post 715, The Bombay wrote:An issue I had with StrangeMatter was post 603.
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I spoke to Marci about it over night. I wish I had gotten a chance to talk about it before the hammer.
Basically, I find it very strange that they out of the thread for six pages, and when they returned the only thing they found worthy of comment was something 500 posts back. Especially since the time that they were gone was when T3 made his chess game announcement.-
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I somewhat mentioned this indirectly in the exact same page.In post 737, SirCakez wrote:
I ISOed you and don't see you talk about scum in this pool at all - what are you referring to from "above"?In post 709, StrangeMatter wrote:Suspecting there’s likely one (two has potential but not as likely) of {Rogue, SirCakez, That Idiot Ivan} as said above. I want to look more into these right now, though continuing on a conversation about this is pointless and a waste of time.-
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Of course it's never town behavior but do you not think this is something that can make something very horrible into something worse half the time. Also, you're saying I townread them when I have not once said that. I'm what you're saying as "defending" them because this wagon is literally the easiest thing to just have town push half the time and there's some suspicious behavior going around it that makes me come to that conclusion.In post 757, That Idiot Ivan wrote:
The hammer was beyond a bad play. This isn't a case of some new player ignorantly quick hammering. Suripoko are making very deliberate choices here. They started out with a gimmick to avoid having to go on record with any actual arguments. Then they quick hammered the first wagon they could. They're taking refuge in charm, amusement value, and audacity.In post 721, StrangeMatter wrote:And Rogue that doesn’t explain anything. How did you come to the conclusion to draw attention to a really bad play? Because I’m still having trouble understanding why someone on town says that and it makes more sense to be something Mafia says.
This isn't town behavior. Pooky will quickhammer a wagon, sure--as scum.
Why are you defending them? Just what redeeming features do you see in anything they've posted? And why should anyone townread a single post they've made?-
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I'm very on the fence about these claims at this point. Ivan's claim doesn't make sense to fake to me unless he's scum working with either of the two people who were neighbors to make a play like this but I find it highly unlikely to actually be this exact play. However looking at the claimed roles I agree with Bombay here saying these roles (at just face value in theory) just seems unbalanced that I'm not sure what to actual think and just feel like focusing on this is just not helping.-
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Honestly I wouldn't put it past anyone here in this game to make plays as such, but in all honesty, I don't think so anymore.In post 889, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
You think Ivan and I would walk into this thread and Lie about Shiro being in the thread because we're... what, suicidal?In post 888, StrangeMatter wrote:Actually, Shiro can you confirm that you were in a neighborhood with LLD and Ivan? Kind of want an answer since I'm rethinking and found this to be potentially a bad paranoia.-
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Can you explain these reads? I especially want to know what pings you Rogue town here, there is something that is particularly scummy.In post 931, SirCakez wrote:
Bombay Rogue upIn post 930, That Idiot Ivan wrote:What would you move (aside from yourself presumably) on this reads list:
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jjh927, T3
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The only reason I haven't is because I've talked about said post in #710.In post 942, Rogue wrote:
If you think we are scum I’d outright say it because here this feels bad. It’s like you won’t say it, but hints to it and I feel like you’re hoping no one notices this so you don’t have to explain yourself later onIn post 937, StrangeMatter wrote:
Can you explain these reads? I especially want to know what pings you Rogue town here, there is something that is particularly scummy.In post 931, SirCakez wrote:
Bombay Rogue upIn post 930, That Idiot Ivan wrote:What would you move (aside from yourself presumably) on this reads list:
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jjh927, T3
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In post 702, Rogue wrote:I think it's interesting the amount of people who have entirely glossed over that hammer.
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I restated the question I had in the exact post that I linked to 721.
Also excuse me, ignoring the hammer??? I've literally already talked about the hammer being bad, but again I'm more suspicious of this wagon and how it's built. People need to stop throwing words into my mouth that I'm townreading them when I'm clearly not.-
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This is weird because there was an attempt by me and another scum partner in another game to do a theater (Newbie 2084 and here viewtopic.php?t=88251&f=11&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go) . So I'm wondering, do you actually believe this is actually a theater that I would do as scum?In post 1008, mastina wrote:
Oh it's probably StrangeMatter since this is scum theater here.In post 603, StrangeMatter wrote:Why was SirCakez concerning? I don't feel like you've ever elaborated on this and it's just not been talked about it.
It also is proof of why Ivan is scum btw; if SirCakez was so concerning, why was SirCakez not one of Ivan's targets?-
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Phone posting some reads. I don’t like making super big walls personally.
Honestly I don’t like Rogue’s posting that just seemed dodged around what I was asking about (though it wasn’t notscience, and I want them to answer specifically). My main question was just, what compels one of your heads (if you’re town) to feel the need to bring attention to hammer Suripoko when attention was already had been there from two slots before them and people already know it was very bad and well deserving of a hammer.
I’ve been looking through T3’s ISO, and I’m seeing a lot of nothing that would stand out to me that would be town. It’s mostly stuff I get town can make but also something scum could easily make to get by on a low bar (which I don’t want happening again where I stupidly townread the wrong person off bad reasons). I wouldn’t be against a compromise there but I don’t have a strong read on him currently.-
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My flavor is r/PoppyMains (How did so many of us pick League characters?) and I really didn't want to claim at this point for a few reasons such as people have thrown around a scum roleblocker a lot, and people are going to abuse this claim into throwing massive amounts of shade onto it.
I'm a jail keeper with a hammer ability special where I block indirect kills if I hammer scum. I blocked Bombay, annoyingly that would've been the one slot I shouldn't have blocked but oh well. However, I do think he could be town based off what he said early into Day 2 that he got roleblocked but I'm still somewhat debating to myself whether or not scum does this intentionally or not with the players in that hydra specifically.-
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???In post 1262, morph the cat wrote:
A Win Condtion Has Been Achieved!
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Indirect kills is I get to stop poisons, arsons, and anything that doesn't immediately kill from what I asked the mod about this part.In post 1302, The Bombay wrote:
@StrangeMatterIn post 1199, StrangeMatter wrote:I'm a jail keeper with a hammer ability special where I block indirect kills if I hammer scum.
What does it mean that you block indirect kills? Why are you so invested in activating this ability when we have yet to have more then one kill in a night?-
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I disagree. From what I remember of seeing content from Suripoko, they were accusing nearly everyone on their wagon so unlike another game where I pointed out an obvious TMI on a very specific slot, this comment makes very little sense to me.In post 1445, SirCakez wrote:
sorry my WIM for this game is just so dead because I'm frustrated with my role and was hoping somebody would be able to help me figure it out but no one did and I'm lowkey kinda annoyed I'm still a suspect after Suri went in trying to kill me yesterdayIn post 1398, That Idiot Ivan wrote:
You should gaf.In post 1395, SirCakez wrote:we can do T3 idgaf
And Bombay, I didn't make anyone bulletproof. I bodyguarded.-
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