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Number 1 seems like a misrepresentation of what he said to me. I'd elaborate but I rather he do so himself.Crazy wrote:This:
Then this:Monkey wrote:LOL, do be honest I didn't even see your vote until after I voted. But I usually vote for whoever stands out in the RVS.
So in order for Monkey to be town, we'd have to believe the following:Monkey wrote:I did read some, but usually the RVS isn't meant to be taken seriously. Hence the term random votes.
1. He usually votes for whatever stands out in the RVS, but this time he didn't, because apparently "it's not supposed to be taken seriously." Even though that's what he usually does! XD
2. He read only the very beginning of the RVS, but not enough to see Starbuck's vote. Yeah...
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Do the number of votes on him make you want to do something other then just unvote?Jazzmyn wrote:After reading the entirety of the Starbuck/Monkey exchange, it looks to me like a bit of a tempest in a teacup. My vote for Monkey was entirely random, and the votecount above indicates that he now has 5 votes, which is an awful lot for being only one real life day into a new game, so I am going to unvote.
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In what way did that answer my question?Starbuck wrote:
Monkey has not been back to the thread since all of this started, even to defend himself. I've played with him before and normally he at least stands up for himself. As someone as seasoned in mafia as Monkey is, it is odd that he'd give up over something so small.chamber wrote:Starbuck wrote:How am I being anti-town? I'm just trying to gauge Monkey's reaction.
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My point is that the first statement* seems to imply you already have your answer while the second** seems to suggest you are still seeking one. I don't think anyone can be as certain as you come off as being in the first statement at this point in the game. Then going back on that certainty when called on it seems extremely fishy to me. So I ask again how does mocking someone help you gauge their reaction?Starbuck wrote:In what way did it not? He's probably upset because we are right on the dot with his lynch. Either way, he's appealing to emotion.
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I didn't post till when I did cause I didn't realize day had started. My monkey vote was a joke vote which is why I unvoted as fast as I did. I am doing more than just unvoting. Im voting for one of the people on his wagon and questioning another(you).Starbuck wrote:Chamber, your accusation bothers me because your first post wasn't until post 48. It's like you conveniently slipped into the game. You voted for Monkey then unvoted as soon as Llama posted the vote count.
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This is bullshit. If stuff like this was constantly being directed at me I wouldn't feel much like playing either.Starbuck wrote:I'm definitely not tunneling. I have focused on others as well, but you are acting immature and rude to everyone else in this game. And your appeals to emotion really aren't helping your case with me which is why my vote hasn't moved.
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Starbuck wrote:@Chamber - What personal attacks? There are none. We are not attacking his person (i.e. ad hom), we are attacking his actions, which is what mafia is all about. Monkey is not a newbie, I've played with him before and he has NEVER pulled this type of crap.Brandi wrote:
If you don't like the wagon on you, then do something about it. "Protesting" is asinine and doesn't do anything to help the town. If you really feel that we are somehow being "unfair" then realize that this is a game, and sometimes "unfair" things happen. Sitting out and pouting until things go your way is something that aMonkeyMan576 wrote:I am here. I am choosing not to respond in protest, which is what I originally said.petulant childwould do.
In my opinion being compared directly to a 6 year old would be far more insulting than swear words being directed in my direction. Also in general there is an extremely negative feeling in every post directed at him. Not the most player friendly enviroment I can think of. Certainly not a good way to get him posting again. Though he has anyway so congrats to him.Brandi wrote:
I agree that feeling discouraged or even possibly wronged (if he is town) is understandable. But his ACTIONS because of such are NOT. He signed up for this game, to play it, and regardless of his alignment, he is expected to play in this game. Not sit on the sidelines of the game andchamber wrote:You guys are being ridiculous. Could he handle it better then he is ? Yes. Is his reaction completely understandable anyway? Yes.cry like a 6 year old feeling sorry for himself. If he can't handle it, he should at least have the decency to ask for a replacement. SOG is being spot-on in calling him a hypocrite.Taking a break from the site.-
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[quote="Brandi"]@chamber: A spade is a spade. My descriptions of how I view the situation and his recent behavior are quite accurate. Those are not personal attacks, as I have not insulted him as a person. I have insulted his actions, and rightfully so. If my behavior was as hideous as Monkey's display, I would love it for someone to show me the error of my ways that I might change them for the better. Perhaps I should have kept my strong opinions to myself, but it looks like Monkey is actually make an effort to join us so I don't feel as though it was entirely pointless.
If you've noticed, I have been more so trying to push him to participate because I do not feel he should be today's lynch. He is currently not the scummiest player here. (My current read on Monkey would be scummy, leaning neutral)
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I was just being brutally honest, oh wait, its the same thing.Brandi wrote:
Sounds like you have a personal problem. I was being brutally honest, not insulting. You calling me a jackass though, that's an insult.chamber wrote:
There is a difference between pointing out a fact, and pointing out a fact while being a jackass. You were doing the latter. Your words may have claimed to push him to continue, but I think your actions did the opposite. I think hes restarted playing inspite of them, not because of them.Brandi wrote:@chamber: A spade is a spade. My descriptions of how I view the situation and his recent behavior are quite accurate. Those are not personal attacks, as I have not insulted him as a person. I have insulted his actions, and rightfully so. If my behavior was as hideous as Monkey's display, I would love it for someone to show me the error of my ways that I might change them for the better. Perhaps I should have kept my strong opinions to myself, but it looks like Monkey is actually make an effort to join us so I don't feel as though it was entirely pointless.
If you've noticed, I have been more so trying to push him to participate because I do not feel he should be today's lynch. He is currently not the scummiest player here. (My current read on Monkey would be scummy, leaning neutral)
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I don't give reasons along side votes.fuzzylightning wrote:@chamber: What reasons do you have for voting for me?
FoS: Chamberfor not providing any reason for voting for someone that he hadn't mentioned in any post to this point.
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You should vote for him.semioldguy wrote:
In my opinion you have greatly overreacted to this vote on you.fuzzylightning wrote:@Chamber, so I am just supposed to take your vote and go with it, without seeing a single reason as to why you voted for me, or that you even acknowledged my presence at all in this game [outside of that vote]?
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Town don't know about the possible makeup of the town aside from themselves, and I don't see how sharing town reads on other people gives anything away about a town setup as we don't know anything about the setup. Scum know more about the setup than town do becaus they hve the identites and roles of their buddies, town doesn't have that. Scum know who the "possible makeup of the town" are. Town doesn't, so how is this helping them exactly?MonkeyMan576 wrote:
Either way you're giving scum info about the possible makeup of the town.StrangerCoug wrote:
Please enlighten me on the first part of this sentence.MonkeyMan576 wrote:In my opinion, giving town reads is similar to claiming, and you don't want to give the mafia that kind of info unless you have to.
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I don't feel that I'm being overly defensive, therefore your question is loaded. He's been getting an unproportionate amount of grief for what he's done.Starbuck wrote:
There are more people than just myself and Semioldguy with cases on Monkey.chamber wrote:
He has very recently asserted that he has such a case, and used it as a defense, so I'm curious what it is.StrangerCoug wrote:Gorrad wrote:Can someone sum up the Monkey case for me?
Why, chamber?chamber wrote:Can that someone be semioldguy specifically.
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MonkeyMan576 (5) - Starbuck, StrangerCoug, Crazy, semioldguy, fuzzylightning
You can easily read Semioldguy in iso to find his case. So why not hear more from Crazy, Fuzzy, or Stranger?
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Omgus is an over used term these days. He should fully be allowed to vote for someone because they are voting for him as long as they are going about it in an anti-town way. Given that I feel many peopl on his wagon are, I don't view his votes as omgus.Starbuck wrote:He straight up left the game because the lynch turned towards him, and instead of coming up with a case on someone he has just been OMGUSing on me.
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I'm waiting on the semioldguy case. It may turn out that I find semioldguys case against monkey to be telling. Yours, however, is full of holes. Its not like I have a town read on monkey, I just think he's getting way too much flak for what I've seen him do up to this point.Starbuck wrote:Can you explain how he is not being anti-town?Taking a break from the site.-
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I'm "stalling" on the answer because I don't want to impair a chance to judge semioldguys alignment. I really dislike how you paint everything about people you are interacting with in a negative fashion.Starbuck wrote:
So you are stalling on answering my question because you can't read back in iso and see semioldguy's case?chamber wrote:
I'm waiting on the semioldguy case. It may turn out that I find semioldguys case against monkey to be telling. Yours, however, is full of holes. Its not like I have a town read on monkey, I just think he's getting way too much flak for what I've seen him do up to this point.Starbuck wrote:Can you explain how he is not being anti-town?Taking a break from the site.-
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This is 100% incorrect. Actions are independently(of person) pro or anti town but still dependent on setup. However a scumtell is something that indicates someone is scum. Therefore if its something someone does as either alignment then its not a scum tell.Brandi wrote:
Scumtells are scumtells regardless of it's just what a player "does." No free passes for you.Gorrad wrote:So far, I don't see the case on Monkeyman as being better than my Brandi read. If what Semioldguy said is the only strikes against him, he's not worth lynching yet.
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It doesn't indicate that you are scum though. Therefore the only time to lynch such a person is a policy lynch where you think their play style is more detrimental to the town then their chance of being town.MonkeyMan576 wrote:
If you're anti-town as town and anti-town as scum, it doesn't excuse you being anti-town.chamber wrote:
This is 100% incorrect. Actions are independently(of person) pro or anti town but still dependent on setup. However a scumtell is something that indicates someone is scum. Therefore if its something someone does as either alignment then its not a scum tell.Brandi wrote:
Scumtells are scumtells regardless of it's just what a player "does." No free passes for you.Gorrad wrote:So far, I don't see the case on Monkeyman as being better than my Brandi read. If what Semioldguy said is the only strikes against him, he's not worth lynching yet.
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Are you sure that you have been reading fuzzylightnings posts?Gorrad wrote:Lurking D1 is not something I do on purpose. It's not a "plan" or "strategy". It's a side-effect. The way I play is by waiting for someone to do something I don't like, then pouncing on them for it. So far, the only person who's done something I really haven't liked is Brandi.Taking a break from the site.-
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Agree 100%. Chamber, you are wrong. Sorry to break it to you.MonkeyMan576 wrote:
If you're anti-town as town and anti-town as scum, it doesn't excuse you being anti-town.chamber wrote:
This is 100% incorrect. Actions are independently(of person) pro or anti town but still dependent on setup. However a scumtell is something that indicates someone is scum. Therefore if its something someone does as either alignment then its not a scum tell.Brandi wrote:
Scumtells are scumtells regardless of it's just what a player "does." No free passes for you.Gorrad wrote:So far, I don't see the case on Monkeyman as being better than my Brandi read. If what Semioldguy said is the only strikes against him, he's not worth lynching yet.
Please, for all our sakes, read the first game if you think my D1 lurking is suspect. It's generally what I do.
Example: Self voting is a scum tell.
Player A always self votes.
Self voting isSTILLa scumtell.
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People who play like scum on purpose and to try to say "oh it's how I play, so you can't point fingers at me!" are retarded and I have no sympathy for them~ These types of people always hurt the town.
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Can you point me to a finished game where fuzzy was both town and played like he is now? I find him quite scummy in this game and would like to compare.Kmd4390 wrote:k. Jazz looks town. Semi, I'm not sure on. Fuzzy, my beef on him is more of a playstyle thing, so not really sure how to take that.Taking a break from the site.-
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I'm pretty sure what he meant was: You don't mind when people attack those you are attacking, but do mind when people defend those you are attacking. I don't think of it as a double standard per say, but at least this way its possible to see where he's coming from.Starbuck wrote:So basically you are saying that since I don't overreact to votes on me, but I do argue my points, it's a double standard?
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My point was, that as you've been attacking him throughout the thread, I've been defending him. If its too scattered for you, post an attack all in one place for me to defend. Otherwise you can go back and read my posts in iso.Starbuck wrote:
First off, I really do think that you need to stop answering for Monkey.chamber wrote:
I'm pretty sure what he meant was: You don't mind when people attack those you are attacking, but do mind when people defend those you are attacking. I don't think of it as a double standard per say, but at least this way its possible to see where he's coming from.Starbuck wrote:So basically you are saying that since I don't overreact to votes on me, but I do argue my points, it's a double standard?
That statement really doesn't make any sense.
If you want me to post a concise defense of monkey, first you can post a concise case. Otherwise you can reread my posts in the thread.
I don't mind when people defend those who I'm attacking, but you jump in before he can ever speak for himself. So pretty much, he is just following your lead after he comes back into the thread. I really don't care for it, and I'm pretty sure that there are others that agree with me.
Wow, getting rather snarky there at the end. I have posted the reason why my vote originally went on Monkey and why it has stayed there and has not moved, and probably will not move, more than a number of times. You could easily read me back in iso, and see that.
I think it's rather immature of you to say that "screw you guys, unless she posts something, I won't". I have been posting and have repeated myself over and over.
I agree that its generally a bad idea to answer questions directed at others. I don't feel my most recent post falls into that general area though. What you suggested he meant made no sense, as you said yourself. I think it was pretty clear he meant my interpretation though. To get your interpretation you'd have to assume "Starbuck doesn't mind it when someone joins her on her bandwagon," meant voting for you, as opposed to voting with you. The fact that he uses the word 'joins' would make this interpretation basically impossible.Taking a break from the site.-
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After reading your posts in iso from these games I'm even more happy with my vote. Thanks for the confirmation.fuzzylightning wrote:I am not really liking the way that Chamber is defending Monkey on every post made by someone else in this game that is directed at him. Sure it may be ok every once in a while but when its happening as consistently as it is now, then there has to be something there.
KMD, so we agree to disagree, and anyone who wants to read to see if this is my typical playstyle can go on ahead, i was in OOTS Mafia, Sci-Fi/Fantasy Movie Mafia, and Newbie 649 all as town.
I don't really see a problem with Starbuck's continued attack on Monkey because I really haven't seen a "good" defense of the points she has against him. So far, from what I am seeing it amounts to Monkey claiming she lied about what she was doing this weekend, which, unless he was with her this weekend, is impossible to know.
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You honestly think he's lying there?Starbuck wrote:
So now that I repeat myself again, you FINALLY realize why you think my case is crap? I really don't buy it.Crazy wrote:
Yah, "reactions." That's what I was talking about when I said your case was full of crap. Reactions don't mean anything; townies over-react all the time. More than scum, probably.Starbuck wrote:Well, you might wanna go back and re-read because my original vote on Monkey was for a reaction, which he gave in abundance. His continued actions, reactions, and overall scumminess since then have given me reason to not move my vote from him.
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Was talking to starbuck, I just didn't preview.Crazy wrote:
If you're talking to me, look at my iso #13.chamber wrote:Also, I just reread you in iso, and I seriously want a full case, in your words, against monkey.
He did come back after he was prodded, though.Starbuck wrote:He DID PURSUE THAT. I wish you would re-read so you would see this!
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You responded to this last time but it didn't actually answer the question and I think its relevent now. What I point out here is my main issue with you, though it carried forward to future posts. It never felt like you were trying to figure out his alignment, only trying to paint him as scum the whole time.chamber wrote:Starbuck wrote:How am I being anti-town? I'm just trying to gauge Monkey's reaction.
In what way do statements like this help you judge his reaction?Starbuck wrote:Wow, Monkey. You seem to be getting worked up over something so small.
You never responded to this, please do.chamber wrote:Also, I just reread you[starbuck] in iso, and I seriously want a full case, in your words, against monkey.Taking a break from the site.-
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Starbuck wrote:Well now that Monkey claimed a PR, I can see what his frustration was so your second question is now null and void.
And as you said I already responded to the first and I have nothing to add.unvote vote starbuck
Reconsider answering both now?
I want to see your case on monkey to evaluate you, so it is in no way void.
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I've got no problem with a town pixar character claiming as such (I'm obviously not or I would just claim to be) If anyone has a good reason against this I'll listen. The way I see it if no one comes forward starbucks in shit, if someone does come forward we judge independently. Should we end up with 1-2 dead mafia pixar characters the one that ties himself to starbuck is in the weeds. Seems mostly win-win with minor info given.MonkeyMan576 wrote:Could the mafia be pixar characters? Hmmm...Taking a break from the site.-
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You have answered neither.Starbuck wrote:
I have answered both.chamber wrote:Starbuck wrote:Well now that Monkey claimed a PR, I can see what his frustration was so your second question is now null and void.
And as you said I already responded to the first and I have nothing to add.unvote vote starbuck
Reconsider answering both now?
I want to see your case on monkey to evaluate you, so it is in no way void.
You responded but you didn't answer. Untill you do I don't think I can understand your mindset as a player, and in a generic sense your play seems scummy as hell.
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Responding != answering.Starbuck wrote:You just said a few posts up that I responded and now I have answered neither?
Threatening someone, in my eyes, is not a town tactic. It's a scum tactic.
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I don't understand why people are always so fixated on height.Me wrote: How tall are you?
Where in that response did you explain how the statement "Wow, Monkey. You seem to be getting worked up over something so small." helped you evaluate his alignment, or gauge his reaction as you put it. I mean sure you talked about monkey, but you completely sidestepped the question I was asking.Starbuck wrote:
Monkey has not been back to the thread since all of this started, even to defend himself. I've played with him before and normally he at least stands up for himself. As someone as seasoned in mafia as Monkey is, it is odd that he'd give up over something so small.chamber wrote:Starbuck wrote:How am I being anti-town? I'm just trying to gauge Monkey's reaction.
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You're one of the more obstinate players I've had the pleasure of playing with. Solid top 5.Starbuck wrote:
Well then, my vote is placed perfectly.chamber wrote:forgot to respond to this:
I don't like threatening, but when asking nicely twice doesnt work, I do what gets the job done.Starbuck wrote: Threatening someone, in my eyes, is not a town tactic. It's a scum tactic.Taking a break from the site.-
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I do view being obstinate to the point that you've been as a negative trait, but I don't think its objectively negative or positive. Obviously everyone should be some degree of obstinate. I didn't intend to insult you I was just pointing out a fact.Starbuck wrote:I think we can all play this game WITHOUT flinging insults.
I normally don't buy into Freudian slips.unvotefor now because I'm not convinced I want a lynch just yet.Taking a break from the site.-
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Elaborate.Starbuck wrote:I think that this line of questioning could lead to possible game-breaking stuff going on, and before you do so, please stop this subject.
Scum should already know in what way they are connected(if at all) I think its good for the town to know that too if it can be gained without giving too much info away. Given the huge number of Disney movies, and the limited size of the player list I doubt we gain a huge advantage even if we do figure out how the scum are connected so I'm curious as to how you think this could possibly break the game? Unless you think it would break the game for the scum. Of course I don't know how you could possibly know that either.Taking a break from the site.-
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I do agree that there is a line but I don't think we are even close to crossing it. I guess the location of that line changes from person to person though. Basically given the vast size of the Disney universe I don't think its really possible for the scum to get screwed by this. Its not like we are talking about wordings, only trying potentially find a common tie between the townies and/or Mafioso.Starbuck wrote:Games that become all about the flavor turn out rather badly, because then it's just a question of who's got what in their PM as it already is starting to.
Going this way will suck enjoyment out of the game for many people.Taking a break from the site.-
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Why didn't you point this out as being massive fishing?chamber wrote:
massive fishingsemioldguy wrote:Do you not know your own flavor for your role? A simple "yes" or "no" will do, I don't want anything more than that at this point.MonkeyMan576 Post 515 wrote:Can anyone besides Starbuck claim to be a movie after 1980(Don't give the actual title, just yes or no)?FoS:chamber
I think the info that answering your question would inderectly reveal is way more important than the year a given players movie if from.Taking a break from the site.-
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The flavor he gave is the same flavour I assumed the second he claimed. I can`t imagine, that if he`s fake claiming, he came up with the role then the flavour. It would surely have to have been the other way around.Crazy wrote:
Unless if he needed time to come up with something that was convincing.chamber wrote:
ALthough I agree with this statement, I don't agree with the conclusion that it doesn't make sense in a scummy way. It just doesn't make sense period.Starbuck wrote:
This.Crazy wrote:Your flavor makes sense. Withholding it for that long does not.Taking a break from the site.-
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