HAHAAH this made me laughTwistedspoon wrote: VOTE: ToastyToast
It's candy zoo mafia, and toast fails to qualify as candy
or zoo life
OH, and
HAHAAH this made me laughTwistedspoon wrote: VOTE: ToastyToast
It's candy zoo mafia, and toast fails to qualify as candy
or zoo life
I think Zyrconium's last statement puts more evidence against him.mb53 wrote:Hoppster and Zyrconium= Scum buddies tunneling on someone (who isn't scummy)
Unvote, Vote: Hoppster
Right, because it hasn't even been a day since the game has started.Zyrconium wrote:Anyway, everybody lynch TS now, it's already taken too long.
Somehow I feel that only scum would notice this.Hoppster wrote:Author's note: I got ninja'd several times during the construction of this post.
Your is just blunt. It's "OH HAI GUYZ THIS GUY IS EITHER SCUM OR PR". Scum know who is scum, so either you're showing yourself up as having identified them or you're giving them a better NK. Seriously, I'd much prefer you just flat out accuse people of being scum instead of your rolefishing with your "THIS GUY ISN'T VT!!!!111"
I didn't want to have to clarify that but you insist on being so narrow-minded about it. >.<
In other words "ZOMG he's off my back. And lets defend my scumbuddy!"Hoppster wrote:@ mb53: Thank you. Seriously. I am incredibly grateful. Although, I am fairly confident of Zyrc being town based on his reactions.
Agree with point one, definitely a part of my case.Twistedspoon wrote:Zyrc, editing quotes or misquoting is really scummy
Also, answering questions directed at other players is scummy too. It was addressed to vezok, not you.
And, I don't think you know enough about me to judge me as a player.
I wasn’t buddying, but I don’t like the subtle teaching that it included. Also, calling yourself stupid isn't going to help matters. Say smart things instead.Even I'm not stupid enough to buddy after telling hoppster off for it
Trying to make yourself a victim.This is the last time i'll be active day 1.
I don’t consider it wagoning unless there is not case attached to it. Morthas gave plenty of reasons. And I’ll try not to lurk as much—I’ve been busyand talk about wagoning.Is no-one here going to talk about any other suspects, or are we going to let the mafia lurk and walk free? Pro-lurking tunnelers you guys are.
FLAILING and WIFOM. This post made me rethink my town read on you, and now I’m noticing a lot. For one, you continually suggest that you WIFOM a lot. Admittance of it can’t get you away from a mistake. The direction which, I suppose, is meant to be away from you.If i was scum I'd be a lot less active and be defending myself a lot more. How can i scumhunt when you guys are at my necks? Once you stop tunneling, you'll see which direction we need to head in.
Sounds like someone’s given up…I knew I should have gone with inventor mafia >_>
anyways, If anyone else declares an intention to place a vote on me, then say so, and I'll claim
TwistedScum wrote:well scum would never do it, or they'd be in the position I'm in right now :/
anyways, that wasn't the biggest point of my argument. Probably the weakest actually.
DumScum would. Plus, being caught generally brings about such weak arguments. Scum also might say this to get away with their faulty logic. Twisted, I am very ready to hammer. Zyrconium can wait.because scum wouldn't point out the faults in their own logic
Ok so Zycronium's first vote and he is already attacking Twistedspoon. Since he claims that he slept through RVS, I think its safe to assume that he's voting TP based on his two points here. Point #1 is a matter of opinion. Point #2 is based on...suggesting to ask questions? How is that scummy? Also, his last line to Vezok is teaching. Vezok can ask as many retarded things as he wants if he's scum. He doesn't attack him but suggests that Vezok doesn't do so again.Zyrconium wrote:Ghaa, slept through our RVS
But glad to know this town is planning on taking it's time, even if scum has decided to make itself known...1) And why would you NOT?(P.S. direct answer is so that someone else is feeling said "reasonless pressure")Twistedspoon wrote:if we're going to go into the psycology of smilies then yes, you could say I usually dissaprove of vote switching in RVS . You RVS for pressure - why would you destroy reasonless pressure on one person to push reasonless pressure on another?2) VOTE: twistedspoonTwistedspoon wrote:anyone want to go RQS?
P-Edit: FUCK, there's more than 1!(or vezok is being a retard again, I'd give it even odds)
Vezok, don't ask retarded things like that.... and if you do, do it in PMs to the mod....
So at this point, Zyrconium has continued to go after vezok. Yet, he doesn't vote for him and suggests that it can turn into a massclaim. I'm pretty sure that everyone, scum and town alike, would vote that evil people want to know your goodies.Zyrconium wrote:This is even worse role fishing btw, and it's role fishing that if vezok is town assumes the mafia are all really really retarded..... simple logic could turn this into a massclaim.vezokpiraka wrote:And I found a way to break the game open.
Do evil people want to know your goodies? Y/N
Just answer and say nothing more. Everyone has to do this.
I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT PEOPLE DON'T ANSWER THIS.
@ Kalofer: There is nothing that says he is joking. Also, if it were, why didn't he respond when to people voted for him? Contributing any comment to "jokes" is always a bad idea. Just as TP has been saying "oh, i just use WIFOM a lot! ignore it," leaving Zyrconium can say "TEEHEEE I wasn't ACTUALLY trying to quick-lynch!"Zyrconium wrote:Anyway, everybody lynch TS now, it's already taken too long.
Fair enough, but...Zyrconium wrote:Add, Ad hom to my loist of reasons.
Add Ad hominem to my list of reasons. And hypocrisy.Zyrconium wrote:He's refering to MB, reread the sentance, it's kinda subtle, but it's the only logical conclusion.This is AtE... it's suprisingly effective on me, but when I notice it, it pissed me off even more, if you happen to be town TS, you're really really bad at it.....TS wrote:Whaaa, whaa, you're picking on me for talking too much!
I can't even find said "courtesy." Nevertheless, you are dodging both mb53 and myself via placing more attention on TS. I don't like how Zyrconium has ignored the two votes on him, whether or not he finds them to be illogical.Zyrconium wrote:How about offering me the same courtesy you requested and explain how you ended up with a town read on TS?mb53 #63 wrote:Twistedspoon seems town to me >_>
Sorry, twistedspoon. I realize TS makes more sense but i just noticed that now lolAmrun wrote:I'm still processing your case, but most of it looks good. Haven't really gone in-depth yet, though, but I needed to ask a question: Who is TP?
(Have not memorized playerlist yet x.x)
I'm like 99% sure thats not allowed, even without looking at the rulesTwistedspoon wrote:your gut is right
It looks like I have to claim now
am I allowed to quote my role PM?
Also, don't reveal any ingredients. We don't need those to lynch.ToastyToast wrote:I'm like 99% sure thats not allowed, even without looking at the rulesTwistedspoon wrote:your gut is right
It looks like I have to claim now
am I allowed to quote my role PM?
Just looked at this post again and can see Twistedspoon and Zyrconium as scum buddies. So he is the scummiest player, but that doesn't warrant a lynch. Do you suggest I go after the other option and lynch you? You are both trying to hold off a TS lynch and making yourself appear town via suggesting to look for someone else. This post bugs me, and especially the fact that I would've agreed with it if it weren't for all the WIFOM and Amrun lynch attempt by TS.Zyrconium wrote:@TS: No. you would have claimed this role and if needed used WIFOM to defend it, JUST LIKE YOU ARE.... can you please stop playing the optimal strategy for scum(badly)?
TS still isn't todays lynch his role is too confirmable and if he hasn't lied about it it's really quite townie(or 3rd party actually, but if it's 3rd party in a particularly evil fashion(again this involves him lieing), it will become obvious.
vezokpiraka wrote:We really need to lynch TS today.
I'm not going to put down a vote before building a case on them. And I already have voted zyrconium.Twistedspoon wrote:then why aren't you voting them?ToastyToast wrote: zyrconium and vezok are scum.
how can you call someone scum without voting them?
v. suspicious
Its more than just this reason, but he's been on my scumlist for a while. I hope to give a full case soon, but I've been busy with school this week. But, just look at page 17. A post that says: WE NEED TO LYNCH TS! Followed by an unvote after I point out how scummy that sounds. How does someone change there mind that fast? Add this to his early-game fishing....I can definately see Zyrconium-Vezok scum buddies.Kalofer wrote:Why do you think vezok is scum?
Because one could be lying. Since TS claimed first, most likely him if that were the case.mb53 wrote:Why would they have the exact same role PM if they were different alignments?
That is a very hasty conclusion. I have not claimed at all so I could be a zoo visitor, I could be scum, or I could have Amrun's PM. This rolefishing and Zyrconiums "PLEASE STOP ROLEFISHING" are why I think both are scum.vezokpiraka wrote:Wait! What?ToastyToast wrote:crazypianist has a good point. So do you think Hazard or TS is lying? I think a town role that steals ingredients is plausible, but also something to look out for givenAmrun's PMinfo.
If you don't have Amrun's PM then you must be a zoo visitor. But you aren't. That means you are either some other PR or scum.
Morthas wrote:But by the amount of rolefishing already done, or could be done just by carefully deducting how much damage can this do now?Zyrconium wrote:vezok, can you pleeeeeeeeeeeeasse stop rolefishing soon?
From where i see it, it just makes the information public to those who don't bother thinking deeper and i can bet our scum could already figure that stuff out... You know, people's highest scum suspect being TS and such. Whoever isn't voting, VOTE already. I'd like to atleast see who your top suspect is
I still approve of a Hazard lynch~~
I also FoS at Kalofer
Lynch all Liars is common, so yes, it is. Given all the votes on you, its obvious that there are enough reasons to suspect you as scum. LaL philosophy just contributesTwistedspoon wrote:justifying a townie death with 'oh, well he lied' isn't enoughNobody Special wrote: You could be lying right now. We don't know.
Better to erase all doubt.
How is this a townread? His rolefishing is a negative for me.mb53 wrote:On a side note, I think vezo is town from his early "Do evil people want your goodies" question.
And so we should ignore it? My point is that people are calling him town regardless of his gameplay. I understand if its meta, but it doesn't stay like that EVERY TIME and should not be used to immediately call him town.Amrun wrote:Yeah, but I'm not sure scum would have known enough to ask that question.
Also I have personally killed vezok for rolefishing before and he turned up town.
When was it said that they would know?Zyrconium wrote: (Hazard's victim should point out that they're Hazard's victim btw)
I'm partially in favor of this. Hazard already claimed zoo visitor, so what did HE do?vezokpiraka wrote:Actually.
Zoo visitors: Claim who you targeted. If they got stuff the person is confirmed VT.
Such as...?Morthas wrote:From what i remember Toasty, who in my opinion doesn't seem to have town motivations for his various standings on players but hey, it might be me wrong or his bad play.
Helps us figure out how the PR works. I'm starting to thing hazard should only tell us if we are close to lynching that person. Do you think its wrong to assume that scum have no ingredients?Amrun wrote: Toasty, explain to me why you think Hazard claiming is even remotely a good idea.m
Howso? If we are to take TS' statements as truth, then he would not know exactly what he could make.Amrun wrote:Wait, you aren't told what ingredients you get?
That rings REALLY false to me.
^^This will be added to my case on zyrconiummb53 wrote:A better question is what does scum gain if said secret is revealed?
ROLE INFORMATION.
What does town gain if that secret is revealed?
NOTHING.
You aren't scum-hunting. You're just trying to get role informationMorthas wrote: Ah, nearly forgot about TT, use your brain a lil, maybe then you'll look as if your scumhunting
Sorry for lurking, it's just that the amount of stupidity going on makes me hesitant to post
Who should scum avoid targeting, given that Hazard took their ingredients away; What hazard can make (yes, I realize he's already denying that)Morthas wrote:@TT: Could you specify what kind of role information do you hope to conceal?