Mini 1138 - Candy Zoo Mafia (Game Over!)

[mb53]

FTR I don't see how what TT did was scummy.

So, you are accusing him of being scum for putting me at L-1.

By your logic, you are/were suggesting we are scum together.

Do you

really

think that scum would put his partner at L-1 for me to self hammer? We wouldn't be that stupid.

Just sayin'

[Zyrconium]

mb, what do you think the likelyhood of you being lynched today is?

[mb53]

99%

[ToastyToast]

@TT: did you miss where it was pointed out how REDICULOUSLY pro-mafia the action you just took was, to a better degree, what possible pro-town reason is there for rushing along a lynch that was so obviously going to happen?.

Oh, so many things I can say about this. SO many. Did you ever stop to think, maybe I did it on purpose? Perhaps I was reaction fishing?
And it stops stimulating discussion? LOL WHAT DISCUSSION? THIS GAME DOESN"T DISCUSS ANYTHING. If you think its scummy to put a claimed third party on L-1--OR hammer a third party, for that matter, then you need to go to "catching scum 101" class.

Don't think for a second that I don't think YOUR scum. You are still my number one read, and still the constant second preferred person every time this game opens for another day.

What part of, "he's too dangerous to keep around" do you not understand? Allying with a third party is something a scum team would do, especially when town does not know the setup--a setup that is not guaranteed to make any sense. SO lets take those hard-to-understand elements out of the picture? What else is there to discuss? The fact that you were probably just WAITING for someone to put a vote down? I'm not rushing a lynch, I've waited for reactions, like I said I would. mb53 gave no last words, and no one else made any input. So, in my opinion, this day is over.

[mb53]

TT is right =P

Days over. [sarcasm]Hurray![/sarcasm]

[Morthas]

Both TT and mb are defending themselves with WIFOM >.>
mb dies today, going to look into TT tomorrow.

Oh, so many things I can say about this. SO many. Did you ever stop to think, maybe I did it on purpose? Perhaps I was reaction fishing?
And it stops stimulating discussion? LOL WHAT DISCUSSION? THIS GAME DOESN"T DISCUSS ANYTHING. If you think its scummy to put a claimed third party on L-1--OR hammer a third party, for that matter, then you need to go to "catching scum 101" class.

Wifom. Unless you breadcrumbed it beforehand so you can stop us from accusing you of actual intent to hammer

Don't think for a second that I don't think YOUR scum. You are still my number one read, and still the constant second preferred person every time this game opens for another day.

OMGUS/Tunelling

The fact that you were probably just WAITING for someone to put a vote down? I'm not rushing a lynch, I've waited for reactions, like I said I would. mb53 gave no last words, and no one else made any input. So, in my opinion, this day is over.

and Pine still needs to comment before that.

Just feel like ending this day before hearing reactions is a bad idea.

Completely contradictory of what you said a few posts later

Now tell me TT, how do yo suppose you would respond to yourself from the POV of another player?

[mb53]

A question!

Does everyone want me dead because they don't believe my claim, or because I'm 3rd party?

[Morthas]

Why the hell would anyone want to kill you because you are 3rd party?

[Pine]

A question!

Does everyone want me dead because they don't believe my claim, or because I'm 3rd party?

They're not mutually exclusive. Either you're anti-Town third party, or you're scum. Valid reasons to lynch you in either case.

Sorry for the delay, folks, I'm visiting my girlfriend half a state away and have less internet access than anticipated (her wifi is on the fritz.) Posting form my phone, my wallpost is 3/4 done and will have to wait until I'm home tomorrow.

[ToastyToast]

I did wait, mr. scum morthas. thats what i said. I said I would wait, I waited, nothing happened, I voted. Don't even try to make it any more complicated.

[ToastyToast]

If you think my response to Zyrconium, you haven't read the thread. He's been my number one suspect since D1, and as such I find using his points against me to be irrelevant.

How would I react to me if I were another player? What kind of question is that? I would agree with me because if I were another player I'd still have the same scum reads. That question is just ASKING to lead me into WIFOM, by the way.

[mb53]

Why the hell would anyone want to kill you because you are 3rd party?

I can't tell whether this is sarcasm or not.

[ToastyToast]

Whats This?

I want to hear from hoppster and morthas first, at the least. Day hasn't been opened long.

i hear from Morthas.

Wait if we presume scum have the ability to steal candy aswell, doesn't having him alive dangerous? (especially since town had a couple of their zoo visitors dieing)
Honestly, i do not believe his claims,

im thinking more in line of that he may be a fat kid buuut he is of scum alignment so please hammer away ;D[

/quote]

I hear from Hoppster

Anything specific, or were you just waiting for my input on the claim?
I do wish Hazard to elaborate on his "I BELIEVE DAT CLAIM" post before hammer now in addition to Pine's catch-up post.

We've been waiting for this rumored catchup post for quite a while now.
My RESPONSE to Hoppster, which the two of you have so graciously labeled as a contradiction.

Just feel like ending this day before hearing reactions is a bad idea.

I mean, what are our options really? Risk a third party win by keeping mb53 alive another day?

CP had 2 goodies, but Amrun had 5. Whose to say he can't win in just a single night phase?
but mb53,

do you have any last words?

more importantly, who should be lynched tomorrow, in your opinion?

This expressed my intent to hammer. After mb53 responded, zyrconium and hazard mention their leaning towards an mb53 lynch--that was plenty. And if players are going to do the bear minimum and say "YAY HAMMER" without any interrogations or further concerns, then I'm going to hammer.

Why the hell would anyone want to kill you because you are 3rd party?

Really? 3rd parties aren't alligned with the town. You don't just let them prance around the thread until they achieve their win-con.

[ToastyToast]

Ok those quotes were messed up. Hopefully you guys can figure out when im talking

[Morthas]

How would I react to me if I were another player? What kind of question is that?

I meant it as in from the POV of another player(me) your post(s) are filled with WIFOM, OMGUS/TUnneling, contradictions.

If you think my response to Zyrconium, you haven't read the thread.

Missing a word i think, have no idea what you are on about.

I did wait, mr. scum morthas.

He's been my number one suspect since D1

How much can you possibly contradict yourself (psssst, i'm talking about your vote placement)

I can't tell whether this is sarcasm or not.

I do not see how does a 3rd party may affect my win condition whatsoever (especially one who has claimed not having any abilities that could end a townie life) so why would i want to lynch you because of being 3rd party? (although this is my first game witha 3rd party so i may need to be corrected)

P-Edit: @TT: Read it carefully, i SAID i believe that he is lieing about his alignment. (the bolded part)
P-2nd Edit: @TT: Your shitty quotes make it incredibly hard for me to understand what the hell you are saying, so post again if you want me to comment on something

[ToastyToast]

"If you think my response to Zyrconium is based on OMGUS, you haven't read the thread."

Thats no a contradiction, I can have more than one suspect. D1, I had a vote on zyrc; D2, I had a vote on him; D3, I had a vote on him; D4, I had a vote on you, and it was related to the CP flip.

If you can't figure out what parts im saying......just...wow. See the /quote at the end of the first part? thats when your quote end. The rest is my stuff.

You also said. HAMMER AWAY. So, your not scummy for suggesting it but im OMGSCUM for actually doing it?

[mb53]

I do not see how does a 3rd party may affect my win condition whatsoever (especially one who has claimed not having any abilities that could end a townie life) so why would i want to lynch you because of being 3rd party? (although this is my first game witha 3rd party so i may need to be corrected)

Yes, this is what I am saying. Everyone else *cough* toasty *cough* says

Really? 3rd parties aren't alligned with the town. You don't just let them prance around the thread until they achieve their win-con.

... But why not? I'm not hindering you being a winner either.

[Zyrconium]

Upon trying really hard to take issue with TT, I've only got one query:

Why TT, are you voting for mb(who as far as I can tell, you expect to be 3rd party(feel free to correct)), over me or Mothras(who you've stated openly you think are scum)?

Implied question: "Which alignment do you think mb is?"

[Pine]

TT is bussing, Zyrc.

[ToastyToast]

Upon trying really hard to take issue with TT, I've only got one query:

Why TT, are you voting for mb(who as far as I can tell, you expect to be 3rd party(feel free to correct)), over me or Mothras(who you've stated openly you think are scum)?

Implied question: "Which alignment do you think mb is?"

His claim is faulty, and I would much prefer lynching someone we KNOW isn't town as opposed to someone who I think isn't town.

I think his claim works for a third party, but it can just as easily be a mafia role (leaning third party). If he does in fact have 7 goodies and only needs 7 more to win, then he's too dangerous to keep around another round.

[mb53]

It is my understanding that both 3rd party AND town (or mafia) can win.

[vezokpiraka]

Please hammer the obvious anti-town third party.

You can win with the town yes. But you can also win with the scum. Another problem. You are stealing goodies. Town needs that.

Get the fuck out and die.

[Charlie]

Vote count 30

mb53 (3) - Morthas, vezokpiraka, ToastyToast

Not voting: Hazard with a Glove, mb53, Hoppster, Pine, Zyrconium
With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline is on Thursday, 2nd June at 0730 hours (GMT-5)

[mb53]

You can win with the town yes. But you can also win with the scum. Another problem. You are stealing goodies. Town needs that.

I'm not stealing them, I only get them from dead people.

Actually, I'm not even sure if I pick them up, or if I just eat them and get closer to requirement.

[Pine]

Your claimed role depends on Town deaths. This is intent to hammer.

I get home in five hours, expect my analysis in six.

Could someone unvote so mb can't hammer to prevent this?