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gbevilchaos wrote:RQS. Partially to get all the Starcraft talk out of the way now, and partially to allow for some analysis of how you typically type.
Do you play Starcraft/Starcraft II?
Yes. But never the campaign, and raynor is from the campaign.
If yes:
What's your favorite race in game?
Protoss
If you were a character, which would you be? (This has 100% nothing to do with your role, don't name claim)
Idk
Ready for Heart of the Swarm?
nope
If no:
Do you like puppies? (got to have something in here for any non-Starcraft players - lol)
For all:
How much experience do you have playing Mafia?
Anything else you want to say?
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I played Starcraft and currently play Starcraft II.
I roll with Protoss. 4 gate --> expand --> robo --> win
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OMG Yes
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Stels wrote:Do you play Starcraft/Starcraft II?
No and probably never will.
If no:
Do you like puppies? (got to have something in here for any non-Starcraft players - lol)
Of course.
For all:
How much experience do you have playing Mafia?
Wiki...
Anything else you want to say?
I like monkeys too.
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VOTE: Morthas - setting me up for this theme that I know nothing about >:(
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Morthas wrote:Stels wrote:Morthas wrote:That or I am interested and would like to have those answers for future reference.
Spoiler: Oh look here
So you want to know how much experience he has in mafia? Why not just do that yourself and click his name and see almost every game he played in. Not that hard >_>
I fail to see how you are 1.desperatefor someone to 2.answer a questionas useless as that.
Uh, do you expect me to look for his posts in various games? Why are still on this?
His wiki is empty, no links in hindsight.
Desperate? That is exaggeration if i had ever seen any. Why would you exaggerate over something so simple and calm? Maybe it's because you don't like how your attempt in creating suspicion around me had created this potential of backfiring at you. I can see more scum motivation in this than town.
VOTE: Stels
2. Useless? I already explained my reasoning behind asking kiwi for an answer, it is NOT useless.
What does my wiki being empty have to do with you not finding earlier games?
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Morthas wrote:Hello everyone~~ Especially the people who I know
Do you play Starcraft/Starcraft II?
I did a while ago.
What's your favorite race in game?
Uh, Zerg.... i think.
If you were a character, which would you be?
Banelings baneling banelings ooohh~~~ Like a deadly green landmine~~ mine~
Ready for Heart of the Swarm?
Yup, tent and all.
For all:
How much experience do you have playing Mafia?
Anything else you want to say?
Around 5 games or so.
Playing 3 games currently so my activity may be lower than usual i promise to try though.
VOTE: Evil
1. You sneaky bastard. (Reference to our last game)
2.BANDWAGONZ
3. I always vote for Evil.
Three reasons enuf?
oh these?
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rewq455 wrote:rewq455 wrote:Morthas wrote:rewq wrote:Vote:Morthas for having three reasons for an RVS vote
Who said it's random? 3 reasons = genuine.
...... touche
UNVOTE: Morthas
The whole thing with Vifam saying town v town doesnt seem like it means much this early in the game
@kiwiwagle- why would you vote morthas for some stupid argument about your wiki, when you just said you are getting bad vibes from Vifam saying the argument between Stels and Morthasis town v town?
Edit to my post is in bold above.
If you vote someone its because you think hes scummier.
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avasthearties wrote:rewq455 wrote:
The whole thing with Vifam saying town v town doesnt seem like it means much this early in the game
You just have to remember that only scum would know for certain who is town...
@Kiwi I presume the RQS questions he posed in the beginning.
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gbevilchaos wrote:kiwieagle wrote:gbevilchaos wrote:Can you explain why you think he's scummier?
All he's done is question why you didn't answer my original question. He was just looking for you to answer the same questions that everyone else is.
What question "does everyone want me to answer"?
I said that everyone else was answering the question, not that they all wanted you to answer it.
And it was just the question about experience.
Can you explain why you think he's scummy?
I think I did.
And your question made it seem your saying:
He was waiting for me to answer the question everyone else is
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gbevilchaos wrote:Morthas wrote:Ubermad.
On another note, where are Acronach, HellloooNewman, kondi2424, avasthearties?
Lurkers, stop lurking!
He did call avas a lurker at one point. It's his Iso #9.
@Avas - why put someone at L-2 for discussion? That only promotes us wagoning you as opportunistic scum. Wouldn't it make more sense to ISO everyone and find something to build an actual case on? Hopping on a joke wagon in RVS is fine, but not when it puts them at L-2. Someone unvote please.
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Vifam wrote:Stels vs Morthaz is town v town.
My last game me and my scumbuddy fought alot, and the 3rd one always said this.
Im not calling them scum buts when I read it, it gave me a deja vu
Vifam wrote:This wagon on Morthas is bad.
*sigh* Well this game is pretty much stagnant in terms of discussion, so for the sake of drumming some up UNVOTE: VOTE: Morthas for being kind of a douche and also calling me a lurker for not having posted in 24 hours. Frankly, there hasn't been much to post on, as Newman said. Well now there is. I believe Morthas is at L-2. Discuss.
Except he wasn't talking to you specifically.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Avas
Here she defends Morthas, which gave me bad vibes due to my earlier suspicion and tries to start a counter wagon.
Vifam wrote:Espeonage wrote:Psyche wrote:rewq455 wrote:
Vote:Morthasfor having three reasons for an RVS vote
Explain. Should he have more, or less? And why?
luuuuul. Psyche is town. But stupid.
I don't get the joke either.
Here she passively-supports against the lynch of Morthas.
Her 3 "nonRVS" posts only deflect suspicion from Morthas.
unvote
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Psyche wrote:kiwieagle wrote:Stop with the meta guys :l
He did it first!!
And your attack on Vifam is weak. Change your vote.
rewq455 wrote:Psyche- You are right, I went through the games I have posted and in these games I was not playing as I claimed I did. I remember people complaining about it in my past, I assumed it was on this forum, as this is where I have played most of my games. I have played in other locations, however I am not sure where they are, because I played on them because I browse forums and may sign up if I see a theme I like or for other similar reasons. Sorry for wasting you're time with the meta search.
So...I'll just accept this untouchable position at face value and unvote.
...Or not.
Don't worry, you didn't waste my time with a meta search; you helped us find you! And that's all I could ever wish for.
Except for other people to post more...
Whats your attack?
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Psyche wrote:kiwieagle wrote:Psyche wrote:kiwieagle wrote:Stop with the meta guys :l
He did it first!!
And your attack on Vifam is weak. Change your vote.
rewq455 wrote:Psyche- You are right, I went through the games I have posted and in these games I was not playing as I claimed I did. I remember people complaining about it in my past, I assumed it was on this forum, as this is where I have played most of my games. I have played in other locations, however I am not sure where they are, because I played on them because I browse forums and may sign up if I see a theme I like or for other similar reasons. Sorry for wasting you're time with the meta search.
So...I'll just accept this untouchable position at face value and unvote.
...Or not.
Don't worry, you didn't waste my time with a meta search; you helped us find you! And that's all I could ever wish for.
Except for other people to post more...
Whats your attack?
Rewq has a bad memory?
Sure. A bad memory.
Vifam wrote:Psyche wrote:Lol. That's so Vifam.
Whoa.
You obviously know me or you're looking at my previous games.
Latter.
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HellloooNewman wrote:I am Artanis and I am town. I am told that I trust all Protoss', and if I target them at night, I will be unable to perform my action on them (due to trusting them). I will instead learn their name.
This is actually quite helpful now that 2 Protoss' have claimed. I can tell you if they are lying or not.
Unvote - Rewq
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rewq455 wrote:more posts were posted before mine went through.
kiwieagle wrote:HellloooNewman wrote:I am Artanis and I am town. I am told that I trust all Protoss', and if I target them at night, I will be unable to perform my action on them (due to trusting them). I will instead learn their name.
This is actually quite helpful now that 2 Protoss' have claimed. I can tell you if they are lying or not.
Unvote - Rewq
are you protoss?
Artanis is a high templar. I'm not sure how the name power goes with a high templar flavor wise though.
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Morthas wrote:I am slowly becoming a fan of Psyche, this is way stronger than anything we got on rewq
Evil wrote:I've already responded to all points in Psyche's case, so vote me if you find it convincing. I have nothing else to say. I have a feeling I'm getting lynched today anyway.
This post, right after Psyche's case on him is especially scummy.
I find saying ''I have a feeling I'm getting lynched today anyway" Without saying anything beforehand scummy since as town you'd want to help town as much as possible before the mislynch (From his POV) and not act as if you don't care, the fact that his activity has dropped astoundingly after that is also interesting.
VOTE: gbevil
Kiwi wrote:unvote
VOTE: Gbevil
If no one likes the Vifam case, then on to my second suspect.
Eagles eat kiwis
wtf? This post is "Oh can't lynch a, so let's go lynch b". Wagonjumping much? ISO TIIIIIIIMEEEE~~~~
FoS Kiwi
You are always by the sidelines, off the radar, minimalistic scumhunting. Response?
rewq wrote:Here is my full claim:
Name: Fenix (he is in the first game and brood wars which i havent played so anything i can tell you flavor-wise is from a wiki. He is protoss so cannot be the leader of the raiders.)
Ability: After death I can cast One vote at any point later in the game, and then I can also remove it. After I looked over the wiki I saw that after he dies he is made into a Dragoon so he can continue fighting. This is the only thing I've read about him that works with this power flavor-wise
Now why as scum would you claim with a Beyond the grave ability?
Stels wrote:UNVOTE: rewq455
I am...
(1) Edmund Duke
(2) Terran
Vifam wrote:I'm Overload, I basically work as a town watcher/lookout.
No one asked for an ability claim... Over-justification much? Plus, the second part of your role "Lookout" doesn't quite make sense.
Yes I know what a watcher does, but giving two definitions to your ability is just... over-justifying.
VOTE: Vifam
That's crap reason to vote someone while there are 2 very strong wagons going on atm.FoS Stels
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killerjester wrote:Failure to explain properly on your part doesn't constitute my "misrepping". It sounded like you stated your PM didn't mention Protoss anywhere.
The way you explained it now makes more sense. As in my PM it stated I was Selendis (town) <-- just like that. And your role makes more sense too when the Protoss name thing is a conditional modifier instead of the entire power.
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Blatant backtracking
His explanation is real bad.
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killerjester wrote:rewq455 wrote:Voting somebody who claims to be able to confirm protoss roles? That makes me think you are lying about yours.
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VOTE: kiwieagle
Actually, I got the same vibes kiwi got on Newman. There was some hard cognitive dissonance between these two posts.
HellloooNewman wrote:Okay, zero flavor knowledge here.
How is one player being "protoss" make them believe that another player claims the same?
"Unnecessary" quotations around the word protoss, as if he's never ever heard the term before...
HellloooNewman wrote:I am Artanis and I am town. I am told that I trust all Protoss', and if I target them at night, I will be unable to perform my action on them (due to trusting them). I will instead learn their name.
This is actually quite helpful now that 2 Protoss' have claimed. I can tell you if they are lying or not.
Unvote - Rewq
But the word itself is mentioned in his role PM. Beyond that, while I don't know if he's fake-claiming or not, I'm just saying an investigative role such as this isn't a bad fake-claim if he were scum. That is to say, he could easily fake it by confirming the names of any town, and quite possibly outting some scum to clear his own name. The only way he's going to prove his role in my mind is if he gives the flavor-name of a town BEFORE they do, and they [the town] confirms his investigation is correct.
And Vifam, I know which game you're talking about. My Protoss = town theory was just that, a theory. If you got a town role PM and a non-Protoss name, I'd like you to name claim still. It won't necessarily mean you're anti-town, just that my theory could be wrong. Afterall, the mod did say this..
DeathNote wrote:Do NOT assume you can outsmart me.I have a reputation of placing not so evil characters as Mafia type roles. Flavor should mean nothing!!!!!!!
killerjester wrote:Failure to explain properly on your part doesn't constitute my "misrepping". It sounded like you stated your PM didn't mention Protoss anywhere.
The way you explained it now makes more sense. As in my PM it stated I was Selendis (town) <-- just like that. And your role makes more sense too when the Protoss name thing is a conditional modifier instead of the entire power.
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He could of:
1. Googled his name, if he wasnt sure.
2. If he knows he trusts protoss, then the role PM must of obviously stated
3. If he is actually town and the PM said he trusted protoss, then protoss is most probably town = why should he get all suspicious when the word was mentioned?
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She constantly wagons (she just goes "oh yeah your right")
She sees me change my vote (to gbevil) and suddenly screams YOUR JOINING A WAGON = YOUR SCUM. IM GONNA ISO YOU (which btw is the ONLY scumhunting she has done the whole game) (oh and she never ISOed me) (oh AND LOL I JUST NOTICED SHE DID THE SAME FUCKING THING)
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Morthas wrote:kiwieagle wrote:1)She constantly wagons (she just goes "oh yeah your right")
2)She sees me change my vote (to gbevil) and suddenly screams YOUR JOINING A WAGON = YOUR SCUM. 3) IM GONNA ISO YOU (which btw is the ONLY scumhunting she has done the whole game) 4)(oh and she never ISOed me) 5)(oh AND LOL I JUST NOTICED SHE DID THE SAME FUCKING THING)
oh and I have a feeling Stel is bussing her.
Ignoring your disability on reading genders (My avatar depicts a male + under it, it clearly says ''Gender=Male")
1) Reading my own ISO I have voted Stels, Rewq, Gbevil (in that order)
Stels: My own reasoning, Not even close to a wagon
Rewq: Did my own research, Wagon
Gbevil: Not my own reasoning, Weaker-than-Rewq-Wagon Wagon but still a wagon i guess~.
2) Just reread what I said before... The way you joined gbevils wagon looks like blatant wagonhopping.
3) How is that the only scumhunting I did all game? I don't want to be the one who points out my own scumhunting but did you actually read my ISO or are you just full of shit?
4) I did ISO you, that is how I came to conclusions.
5) I don't have anything to say...
I am still willing to say Gbevil still is more scummy than kiwi, rewq, Stels.
Gbevil> Rewq> Kiwi> Stels.
Psyche wrote:But his claimed ability, is again, interesting. If his claim is true, and he is scum, would it be in our interests to lynch him? Could there be a scum beyond-the-grave-voter? Would scum-he lie about his ability in this way?
Well, it would be a decent fakeclaim, I think. Insert thoughts on gambit utility here.
These considerations are the only thing that would give me doubt.
No idea about how bastardly is this game in order to give scum such a deadly/weird power but It's nothing to not vote scum over IMO.
@MOd: Can we get vote counts more often please? The last one was 4 pages ago and it's most certainly outdated.
yeah I usually dont read gender, most people dont mind etc. etc.
1. Stels wasnt a wagon, more like RVS (I wouldnt call that reasoning, you voted him for saying answering those was useless. WHICH IS TRUE, WHY DID YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTION SO DESPERATELY?)
You did your own research on rewq? lol bullshit. I made a case on him, and you just say repeat what I say.
2.LOLOLOL YOU DID THE SAME THING
3. Tell me where you actually scumhunt. Just quote it.
oh and reading your ISO
Morthas wrote:HellloooNewman wrote:What is there to say? 3 pages full of "answer the question!" "what question?" "you know what question, now answer!" "what fucking question you talking about?" "SCUMZ!!!".
I sufficiently think the start of this game is retarded, and I have lost IQ points for having read it.
Better?
Excusing yourself from posting?
OH HAI GAIZ I'M NOT GOIN TO PLAI, BAT I DN'T WNT RIPLAIC AUT ANIWHO.
No offense intended.
Morthas wrote:I failed to mention this but i sometimes lose enthusiasm for this game for a few days when there are some events happening during life. Sorry for my being away, i'll post as soon as i get some sleep and some free time.
This is the 2nd time you call scummy something you did btw.
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Morthas wrote:Why are you flailing kiwi?
Kiwi wrote:1. Stels wasnt a wagon, more like RVS (I wouldnt call that reasoning, you voted him for saying answering those was useless. WHICH IS TRUE, WHY DID YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTION SO DESPERATELY?)
You did your own research on rewq? lol bullshit. I made a case on him, and you just say repeat what I say.
2.LOLOLOL YOU DID THE SAME THING
3. Tell me where you actually scumhunt. Just quote it.
oh and reading your ISO
1.Stels wasn't a wagon, correct. I didn't "desperately" wanted to know, I found it scummy that Stels was jumping at me when I was asking them. Besides, 1. wasn't only about stels it's about my behavior in general, strawman.
2.Myself wrote:2) Just reread what I said before...The way you joined gbevils wagon looks like blatant wagonhopping.
Look at the bolded part very closely.
3. Make other people quote them, It's subjective and I'm clearly biased towards myself.
4.Kiwi wrote:You are always by the sidelines, off the radar, minimalistic scumhunting. Response?
I just realized your behavior can be easily associated with a Strawman's.
Change that list to Gbevil>Kiwi>Rewq>Stels.
flailing?
....really?
Out of all the possible things you could say.... you say im FLAILING>?
umm ok.
and you didnt refute anything I said
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Morthas wrote:Kiwi wrote:flailing?
....really?
Out of all the possible things you could say.... you say im FLAILING>?
umm ok.
and you didnt refute anything I said
All you did was raise me in your scum meter and say im flailing.
Myself wrote:Why are you flailing kiwi?
Kiwi wrote:
1. Stels wasnt a wagon, more like RVS (I wouldnt call that reasoning, you voted him for saying answering those was useless. WHICH IS TRUE, WHY DID YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTION SO DESPERATELY?)
You did your own research on rewq? lol bullshit. I made a case on him, and you just say repeat what I say.
2.LOLOLOL YOU DID THE SAME THING
3. Tell me where you actually scumhunt. Just quote it.
oh and reading your ISO
1.Stels wasn't a wagon, correct. I didn't "desperately" wanted to know, I found it scummy that Stels was jumping at me when I was asking them. Besides, 1. wasn't only about stels it's about my behavior in general, strawman.
2.
Myself wrote:
2)Just reread what I said before... The way you joined gbevils wagon looks like blatant wagonhopping.
Look at the bolded part very closely.
3. Make other people quote them, It's subjective and I'm clearly biased towards myself.
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Kiwi wrote:
You are always by the sidelines, off the radar, minimalistic scumhunting. Response?
I just realized your behavior can be easily associated with a Strawman's.
Change that list to Gbevil>Kiwi>Rewq>Stels.
Number of times and/or words that are associated with the word ''flailing'':
1 times mentioned, 5 words. Are you still saying the only thing I said is that you are flailing?
"All I did" was respond to every single of your points and have you ignore them completely in a straw man fashion.
KJ wrote:For the record, I don't expect Morthas to refute a straw man argument. No one should.
The only way I will refute the straw man argument is if I realize i got the definition wrong.
You responded to every single of my points?
Yeah...no.
1.Oh and killerjester, please read both cases. She copied what I said.
2. So the fault is on the defender not in the attacker?
3.Uhhh no. Please reread.Not never dead.-
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