Mini 1442: House of Cards - GAME OVER
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Hey Toogeloo... you're not here to fool me again, aren't you?
the player list is quite good. So many i know this game will be fun!!!Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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I guess AJ didn't read the opening completely....Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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I picked (2 & 6)
I have asked for Zoe Barnes, Adam Galloway and Doug StamperInatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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but isn't AJ is the replacement of ORC, that explains he may not be actually the one who chosen the numbers or characters.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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4 more players to confirm... then we would be ready to go..Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 34, Majiffy wrote:We should lynch FuDu for the lulz.
I normally don't sheep you but for this one.. I totally would.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 36, Majiffy wrote:C'mon guys, I bet he's a. It's like a goon, but with a named role pm!Mafia Survivor
Ins't the MOD already said that the alignments were done randomly.... Its like even a doctor can be Scum.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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We still are in Pregame, we are now page 3, we are moving fast!!!! a bit too fast maybe!!!Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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oops not page 3 yet, may be heading to page 3Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 47, Majiffy wrote:Which is why we should promptly lynch FuDu.
That's a good deal for both town and mafia. Lets take him down...Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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^ are you telling me Thez?
btw, we are playing again.. You better not be SCUM this time!!!!
you're the trade mark of mafia!!!!!Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 49, Majiffy wrote:VOTE: ArcAngel9
Needed a good reason for mafia before she would agree. Scum found.
Oh really, I was expecting which one from Mafia would pick my post as scummy Jiffy, but i never thought you would fall for it.
so what is next?Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 59, Venmar wrote:Why is "everyone" getting UN styled avatars? Is this a special club or something?
LOL, I wanted to say that too.. UBER is getting famous on MS now..
In post 60, Venmar wrote:Majiffy, my friend, I thought you don't just throw your vote around this early?
May be he is scum in this game.
Oh really, I was expecting which one from Mafia would pick my post as scummy Jiffy, but i never thought you would fall for it.
so what is next?
OMGUSing already?[/quote]
You know that you deserve it. Don't you Majiffy?
In post 62, thezmon221 wrote:
Is that a compliment?In post 55, ArcAngel9 wrote:you're the trade mark of mafia!!!!!
Huh.. let me correct that. You're the trade for SCUM!!!
In post 63, Paschendale wrote:In post 58, ArcAngel9 wrote:In post 49, Majiffy wrote:VOTE: ArcAngel9
Needed a good reason for mafia before she would agree. Scum found.
Oh really, I was expecting which one from Mafia would pick my post as scummy Jiffy, but i never thought you would fall for it.
so what is next?
If you actually mean that, you should back it up better. Cuz it sounds like bullshit.
Which is farrrrrr better than your pre vote on me? Isn''t it? just ask yourself pash!!!
In post 64, Aj The Epic wrote:Yeah Thez! You better not be scum this time.
Or any alignment, for that matter.
I hope you have a neutral suicidal survivor role
I said this AZ...
In post 65, thezmon221 wrote:I'm actually a Lynchproof PGO survivor. Come at me bro.
But no, I'm not scum, for once in my life.
Like, We believe you!!! huhInatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 53, thezmon221 wrote:I almost had you there, though. Let's be honest here.
But i didn't believe, Didn't I?
Becuz of me you practically lost the last chance of winning that game as scum. Pash & Majiffy know this.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 69, thezmon221 wrote:...I'm at a loss for what to say to AA. I feel like anything I say will in some way be mean, so I'm not going to say that.
On another note, AA you should answer Pasch's question. It was a legitimate question and you failed to do so.
which question you're referring too thez?Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 79, thezmon221 wrote:
This one, AA.In post 63, Paschendale wrote:If you actually mean that, you should back it up better. Cuz it sounds like bullshit.
I don't know what pasch expectations are..i didn't understand his question much
In post 92, Majiffy wrote:VOTE: AA9
Since we have effectively rid of RVS prior to the game starting. GOGOGOGO
I though we pretty much done with RVS even before the game has started
and you already said that you dont do RVS, why now? Scum found.
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In post 102, Toogeloo wrote:I was actually thinking this last night.
Watcher watches me, I doc the Watcher, Tracker tracks me to make sure I am legit. If I don't die, Watcher is confirmed town. If I do die, Tracker confirms I visited Watcher, and Watcher is either scum or Watcher will see the scum who targeted me. If Watcher, Tracker, or I is roleblocked, we also know who scum is.
I like this idea, this is very town. I can be watcher for you tonight, and you protect me and let the Tracker track you... and I will use rest of my powers as Town wants me to.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 96, Paschendale wrote:In post 93, ArcAngel9 wrote:In post 79, thezmon221 wrote:
This one, AA.In post 63, Paschendale wrote:If you actually mean that, you should back it up better. Cuz it sounds like bullshit.
I don't know what pasch expectations are..i didn't understand his question much
The implications of your post are that you were laying some kind of gambit and trapped Majiffy. But you do nothing to show that his suspecting you is scum motivated. It's an astoundingly weak reason, and playing it off as stronger than it actually is strikes me as very suspicious.
Vote: AA9
I don't know what you're trying imply here but once again i can tell you for sure that you chasing a wrong reason and wrong person, unless you're the scum and just jumping on me so that you can push my wagon.
And what exactly were my implications, which post you're talking about? How do you expect me to prove that Majiffy reason is scum motivated when i am not even sure what he is..
I voted him becuz, he has most pathetic reason to vote me and the majiffy i knew wouldn't act this crazy.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 106, Toogeloo wrote:If we do my idea of the Watcher/Tracker/Doctor thing, we can never skip a Day Phase. If Watcher and I are both town, scum will use the skipped Day Phase to off us both at once.
Yeah, the three of us could be scum, however the likelihood is REALLY small.
If Tracker is the town between the three of us, he would see if I visit the Watcher or not. I die if I target scum, so if Watcher is my scum buddy, I just suicided into him. If Watcher is town, I am forced to confirm him as such because he will see if anyone has visited me or not. If I'm the only one town, then tracker has to confirm that the Watcher is scum, or the Watcher has to lie about someone possibly killing me.
You have me as your watcher!!!!Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 131, hp [leaves] wrote:In post 127, ArcAngel9 wrote:I like this idea, this is very town. I can be watcher for you tonight, and you protect me and let the Tracker track you... and I will use rest of my powers as Town wants me to.
Well, look at the scum who's trying to manipulate pr's to her own liking.
Explain how i am scum by offerring myself for Tog's plan. That will confirm to this group that i am town. If Tog protects me tonight, if he lives I will be confirmed townie, And I will watch him to make sure that he visits me.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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^ What do you mean i am manipulating PR's, everybody on this game has powers... Your accusation is false..Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 134, hp [leaves] wrote:If tog/you are both scum, then the plan falls apart. I'm not willing to taking chances with setup speculation.
I may not able to change your mind but i am not scum and I know that, I don't feel Tog is scum too, why would a scum would want to confirm someone as townie, Imagine if Tog is really saying of what he is... He would be killing himself by protecting a scum, and even if he is the scum, we are going to be benefited out of this... if there is any possibility of your theory, you need to see that TOG wanted this plan to work out with WATCHER not me, I offered myself as I have 1-shot watcher ability so I would work with Town directly without the head aces.
If Tog is scum and playing with his scum mate, but now he is confirmed a twon-aligned person not scum.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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And confiming me as Town has better beneifts, either Tog or Watcher can keep an eye on me, so that Scum wouldn't hunt me down.
and I will have 1 RB, 1 VIG and 1 Tracker power to use...Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 138, Majiffy wrote:Angel.
In post 130, Majiffy wrote:In post 128, ArcAngel9 wrote:the majiffy i knew wouldn't act this crazy.
Where am I acting crazy?
Explain why you think i am scum, its not like you don't know my play.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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You actually think If i am mafia, I would be dumb enough to say something like that?????
You and I know that I am smarter than that and you're not as dumb as this... the point to hang on to my vote is pointless.
Now i actually fell better my OMGUS vote...
And how come you're not interested in any other topics around except just going back and forth with me on this.. Aren't you being bit different than usual here Majiffy???Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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What the hell?
I am getting irritated with this shit!!!Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 143, hp [leaves] wrote:In post 137, ArcAngel9 wrote:And confiming me as Town has better beneifts, either Tog or Watcher can keep an eye on me, so that Scum wouldn't hunt me down.
and I will have 1 RB, 1 VIG and 1 Tracker power to use...
Why are you so eager to confirm yourself as town? Isn't it already stated that a role block tears this plan down and you happen to have a role block ability? I seriously don't like this as this attitude is more scum than town.
VOTE: AA9
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AA9 wrote:You actually think If i am mafia, I would be dumb enough to say something like that?????
I see your WIFOM and raise my Occam's Razor.
why don't you want me to prove that I could be a confirmed Townie. Exactly my point about the RB, the other watcher can keep eye on RB to see who he/she visits.
what do you mean that my attitude looks scum than town, what do you know about my attitude as town and scum? Your determination is worng.
you're not willling to listen... you may be anti-town or scum!!!Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 147, hp [leaves] wrote:Okay, then could you link me to some of your older games so I can see what your play looks like?
all my completed games listed here...
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=ArcAngel9
In post 149, Majiffy wrote:Prepare yourself for a headache, hp.
Shut-up Majiffy. If you're scum, I am telling you that I will make you pay later... I swear on the god.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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And Venmar,
Would you freaking give reasons first before you hog into my wagon...
And why are you not participating??Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Do you call that as reason?
What do you mean really the only scum, Do you realize that it is just day 1 that the game was started.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 157, Paschendale wrote:I'm inclined to give Venmar the benefit of the doubt on this one. He thought he had a good idea and shared it. He was wrong, but it's not like he outed any PRs or anything (because we know who everyone is). Nor did he attempt to lynch anyone. Nor did he try to vouch anyone as town. Let's just drop it and move on. Toogeloo gets the benefit of the doubt, too.
Actually, the votes on Venmar over this are kind of suspicious. There's not really any scum motivation for Venmar's plan. Trying to make some up, or suggest that merely having a bad idea is scummy, seems duplicitous to me.
Also, Jebus' whole thing about being cult-aligned is rather unnerving. The OP suggests that there are only two factions, Town and Corrupted. Is Jebus misinterpreting "corrupted"? Is he making stuff up? Is he really a third party? And then his vote on Venmar is basically not backed up and looks rather sheepy.
I really don't like anything Jebus has said so far.
Desperado is making the same mistakes, but making them much more eloquently.
@Desp: Why do you think Venmar is trying to trick us rather than just making a mistake? And why Venmar and not Toogeloo?
In post 141, ArcAngel9 wrote:You actually think If i am mafia, I would be dumb enough to say something like that?????
Oh look, the least compelling defense ever.
To be fair, none of AA's other content is particularly damning. She made a wishy-washy statement that I could see just coming from a place of wanting to account for all the variables. But her rebounding attack on Majiffy looked like she was genuine about going after him, and there's really no reason to be doing that. She implied that she was laying some kind of gambit, but doesn't actually seem to be doing that. Maybe she is just squirming from suddenly facing scrutiny that she wasn't expecting.
*reads some more*
Last game with AA, she didn't flip out like this either. I see panic more than malice, I suppose. But then she keeps doing things that she shouldn't. Doubling down on her OMGUS vote against Majiffy, not offering any other ideas, relying on bad defenses...
HP's vote on her is solid.
I'm only semi-comfy with an AA lynch right now, but more comfy than with anyone else. But I would like to hear if anyone else has thoughts on Jebus and Desperado.
Pasch, We have been down with this road in the last game. And I am not going through it again. I know you're adamant and stubborn too.. But I have been trying to defend myself here and you’re labeling it as “panic”, that looks like convenient statement to turn my reputation scummy.
Majiffy thinks he caught me as scum for a point that I agreed with him that I am okay lynching “Survivor” because it doesn’t make difference who this character is aligned with, since the winning condition is different. Majiffy said that his post was a bait for scum to pick it up but his reason out to call me scum is not fair because I was playing a pre-game and majiffy unreasonable serious ness in game in a pre-game wasn’t necessary.
It’s not like he dropped his perception after the game had begun, he pushed it even after the game was started. And You and thez were supporting it which worrying me that there could be scum between you three. I don’t wanted to be quick lynched which is why I went with TOG’s idea to come out as clean so that I don’t have to deal with the way I am doing right now.
And HP joins the wagon by saying , the attitude of me want to prove as townie seems scummy. I really wonder, Since when it is scummy that someone desperately finds a way to prove town that they could be confirmed town. Why would scum would risk opening up in that way?
And finally Venmar, Who has no reads, no participation and nothing else.. Straight jumps into my wagon like a shit.
And you expect me not to panic and defend my-self?? Do you even realize that I am being pushed in to the edge on day 1 of day 1 game run???
Your using my meta from previous game to tell that I could be scum, If I am not wrong, I was the one who was right about thez being scum based on meta in the last game. You didn’t agree with there and you’re not agreeing with me here either.. I won’t be surprised if you’re doing this as town or scum. It doesn’t’ matter. You either ways don’t positive about me. I feel it’s pointless for me to talk to you about anything.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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And do you even had a reason to jump into my wagon??Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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thezmon221 – Leaning Scum
Majiffy – Leaning Scum
FuDuzn - Null
Venmar - Null
Aj The Epic orcinus_theoriginal - Null
Lurker - Null
hp [leaves] – Leaning town
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Toogeloo – Leaning town
Paschendale – Leaning town
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your meta...
and Pasch, again mainly meta.
Majiffy - becuz the way he is looking stuff, I have made far worse scummy posts in the games i have played with him earlier, He is playing little odd in this game. Again here.. meta plus reasons.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 167, thezmon221 wrote:
I am calling bullshit on this. You are literally sputtering crap out of your butt right now.In post 166, ArcAngel9 wrote:your meta...
and Pasch, again mainly meta.
Majiffy - becuz the way he is looking stuff, I have made far worse scummy posts in the games i have played with him earlier, He is playing little odd in this game. Again here.. meta plus reasons.
Don't debate thez, you know where it is coming from.. I said leaning scum, haven't not voted you yet. How could be I am town if i don't suspsect everyone and anyone. Eitherways, don't you think you could do better to change my opinion... ? if you're really the town in this game. Don't bother if you're not.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 169, thezmon221 wrote:So... I'm scummy because I don't try harder to change your opinion? How's this on for size:
1. You have never seen me play town.
2. Even when I was scum in those games, I looked pretty town until I was lynched, which was generally by a large accident that I shouldn't have made.
3. I watched you as you played in that other game, and I know where your head's at in such situations. There's a lack of focus. There are unsupported claims, and there are very questionable calls.
However, feel free to show me specifically why you think the above. I'm not saying me in general, but you've obviously turned it into that.
Point #1, Possible but your i know your meta, I never said that I am not willing to change my mind. I just said in my above post, so far based on yoru meta, you look similar to how you appeard on other games I have played with you. That doesn't mean I am saying you're confirmed scum.
Point #2, Not entirely, In each game you have had few slips and again wasn't me who pushed your lnynch on Music mafia based on meta? why are you denying that?
Point #3, I don't know how and where this is coming but i can clearly tell you that you have been influenced by pasch who has been obnoxiously unwilling to consider any of my reasons, He did that to me as town as well which is why he is kind of leaning town to me but I am done doing back and forth with him. I put out every detail of how i seen this game so far in post # 160 which is now a complete futile. He still thinks feels better about his vote on me and for that I can't do anything about it neither i am planning to do anything about it.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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Although Fuduzn may not have WIN condition, Town will still be able to use your Voting ability, He either ways can win if he survives till the end along with Town or Mafia, Having him around would gives an extra vote to TOWN.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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^ I mean he may not have WIN Condition linked with Town winning.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 184, FuDuzn wrote:In post 183, ArcAngel9 wrote:^ I mean he may not have WIN Condition linked with Town winning.
No, I actually do. Even if I die I still win with a town victory.
I doubt that!!!
Unfasten his flag pin and this Congressman unravels into a bundle of hookers, booze and blow. But keeping secrets costs far more than an eight-ball. Peter Russo routinely finds himself a captive to more powerful forces at Capitol Hill. If he could just endure the chains of his past, he might be in a position to help people - Peter wins if he is alive at the end of the game. This is mutual with his alignment win-con, either can be met to achieve a victory.
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Hmm... do you think Fud wasn't the part of team alignment since he is the survivor?
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In post 188, thezmon221 wrote:AA, I'm still waiting for you to convince me your meta read of the three of us is right. Quotes are necessary in this instance. Quotes and/or cites.
As for Fud, I'd say that if we can't decide on a lynch for the day, he becomes last resort. Also, maybe get someone to check him to make sure he isn't actually scum. But even then, he's a liability for the town.
I am not thinking about you three right now, but rather concentrating on others and the rest of game.
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In post 226, hp [leaves] wrote:Okay, so from what I've read AA appears to be a VI. Which explains a lot actually. UNVOTE:
Oh, then i should probably VIG you in the night and prove your point that i am VI.
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In post 228, hp [leaves] wrote:Don't worry, I like your style. You're like a zwet with more content.
Yeah right!!!
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There is a saying called " Be careful what you wish for", I tried to be nice but people expecting me to be VI, If i am not being the VI they're quick lynching me. so I gotta do what i gotta do to which means, I have to go back to my VI policy.. And now you have problem with it.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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*facepalm*
idiot, I am actually done dealing with you!!! You're anti-town as hell and complete piece of shit!!!!
Screw this.. I actually thought I revisit my reads about all the players, that's why I unovted. but I don't think you deserve it.
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In post 235, Desperado wrote:One game's worth of meta can only take you so far, Arc. Retroactively calling your behavior VI in order to explain why it's so terrible (only because someone else brought up the possibility, mind you) is not an effective towntell. Blatant OMGUS and a general lack of feel for how to play this game basically seem to be central tenets of your playstyle, so I'm finding it increasingly difficult to read you as town based on that behavior (which was the essence of my read in #172). In particular, Arc, your #s 173 (meta meta meta meta meta meta meta), 191 (stalling), 227 (why are you even talking about vigging n1), and finally 234 just now are all red flags for me.
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My Post # 227 is an absolute joke for HP statement about my play style. I don't know why you all think i seriously started that VIG him in the night. I can't believe why a funny statement look so scummy.
Pasch is just negative and close minded, his mind has no room to think anything in positive way, He is acting exactly how he was with me in the last game.
And Majiffy is been shit in this game, A) he pulled a reason out of a pre-game and voted me , B) and now he votes me again and say things like “lynch this shit”
This is not the town Majiffy I know, I am very positive that majiffy may be the scum.
And what is your point, now you think I am scum becuz I am saying I ll be a VI, look I am frustrated because people judging my play style based on some old games which is entirely not acceptable, I am clearly contributing more than any active player here…. My play style is far better than how I used to play. I am angry and irritated because I had to start defend myself even before the game had begun. I am more an angry on Majiffy because he is not being unusual but also the scum and the worst part is that people believing him
And my vote is not OMGUS, I voted him before becuz of his scummy posts, I took back my vote so that I could give him a benefit of doubt and let me talk more but seemlessly he failed to scumhunt except running back in my wagon with same old crappy reasons.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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And things i have said about VIG Majiffy was completle personal grudge becuz he is being a jerk
And for HP was a joke.
If you read my earlier posts, I have already mentioned how I am open for Tog to protect me in the night so that he could confirm me as TOWN, and i use my powers as per the Town's wish with an open discussion, Why would I tell such things If I have no intention use it for town win.
And Majiffy completely ignored that whole conversation of mine and hanging to what i mentioned about FUD to his post. Now that looks more scummy????Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 240, Venmar wrote:My vote just keeps improving it seems
Are you going to play any real game or you planning on playing like a sheep rest of this game??
In post 242, Desperado wrote:In post 236, ArcAngel9 wrote:
My Post # 227 is an absolute joke for HP statement about my play style. I don't know why you all think i seriously started that VIG him in the night. I can't believe why a funny statement look so scummy.
Because English clearly isn't your first language and it's difficult to read your posts in even the best circumstances. When you get riled up it becomes virtually impossible to parse what you are trying to say. This is problematic, as there was nothing in your post to indicate you were joking, and there was nothing to differentiate it from any of your other posts (overzealous with punctuation, looks like you translated your post into Google Translate and c/p'd.)
nope, I am not using Google Translator, Yes English is not my first language, but its not so bad all the time. I am in the office and doing multi-tasking, and i am typing too fast, and I am currently playing 8 different games, my mind and key-board running 1000 km/s per hour speed.
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Pasch is just negative and close minded, his mind has no room to think anything in positive way, He is acting exactly how he was with me in the last game.
Where is Pasch being close-minded? Can you explain in more detail what you mean by "acting exactly how he was with me in the last game"?
Majiffy, Pasch, Thez & I have just completed a game. In which - Majiffy, Pasch and I were the Town and Thez was the scum. Majiffy thinks Thez was scum, Pasch defending Thez that he is not, Thez was at L-2 and game needed a push. So, I had a really long argument with Pasch that how I feel Thez is scum based on his meta, but Pasch was adamant and didn't bother to agree to anything i have said. Not just agreeing to what I am saying, He didn't even given benefit of doubt to my point. And he himself said that "He is a stuborn" and not going to change his mind about Thez. You can further read that argument directily here : http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p4824993
And Majiffy is been shit in this game, A) he pulled a reason out of a pre-game and voted me , B) and now he votes me again and say things like “lynch this shit”
This is not the town Majiffy I know, I am very positive that majiffy may be the scum.
I see a lot of attempts to discredit Majiffy and his credibility but no effort to debunk any of his actual reasons for voting you. Quote Majiffy's posts andtell us how he is being shit specifically. Also, provide links to Majiffytown and explain how he is acting differently now.
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^ Read through the above,
In breif, Even before the game started, when we were in pre-game, Majiffy wanted to lynch FudZ because of his Win Condition, And I casually agreed to it , and HE votes me right way saying that "Scum found", So basically his point here is...what he did wasn't scummy but me agreeing to his point is his reason to vote me. Anyways, Later Fudz topic was discussed by pasch and other players that he is a lynch target due to his win-condition, However majiffy didn't find that scummy. I wonder how and why?
When the game is really started, He did started that we were out of RVS and votes me right away for the very same reason
And Venmar jumps into my wagon out of no where, If majiffy has really found me as scum becuz i agreed to his opinion, when an other player jumps into a wagon with no reason, How could Majiffy don't find that as scummy? And he didn't even mentioned nor asked anything to Venmor about his vote. And Same has happened with Lurker, except a while Thez mentioned it.
If there is anything scummy in what I did and that is what is majiffy perception of seeing things, It should be obvious, he must consider both Venmar and Lurker as scums now. but he didn't !! ANd more over, He is only behind this reason and votin. He didn't give any others or did any kind of contribution towards this game. Except voting me. If you actually see it, He already voted me trice in this game.
And you want to Majiffy town play, Go a head read the Majiffy town game with me in the same link i provided you above. I was hardly been posting in that game and I was a bad town but yet he found a way to see me as town. What suprising me that how is now hangining to unrealistic statement and and voting me.
The usual town majiffy is all around and on everyone. this is not the town majiffy game. I have played more games with him as town then i palyed with you and He knows me very very well than one else.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!-
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In post 248, Desperado wrote:nope, I am not using Google Translator, Yes English is not my first language, but its not so bad all the time. I am in the office and doing multi-tasking, and i am typing too fast, and I am currently playing 8 different games, my mind and key-board running 1000 km/s per hour speed.
And Thez, Good job in joining my WAGON, Its very obvious that people who is been lurking and not playing are more town than me. Isn't it?
This is unreal. If playing so many games results in play like this then I suggest you don't play so many at once.
As it is, this is just excuse after excuse after excuse. Combined with Venmar's point in #246 and the silly attempt to shame thezmon into changing his vote. Really? The best counter-wagon you can come up with is...lurkers?!? Why aren't you trying to convince him to lynch Majiffy instead? He's your scumread, remember?
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And what is your point, now you think I am scum becuz I am saying I ll be a VI, look I am frustrated because people judging my play style based on some old games which is entirely not acceptable, I am clearly contributing more than any active player here…. My play style is far better than how I used to play. I am angry and irritated because I had to start defend myself even before the game had begun.I am more an angry on Majiffy becausehe is being unusualbut also the scum and the worst part is that people believing him
I'm saying that your behavior in the last couple of pages has gone above and beyond my experience with your town meta. As for the bolded, can you see what I mean when I say that it's hard to parse what you say? You literally said just above, in the same post, that "this is not the town Majiffy I know," but now you are saying that "he is not being unusual but also [is?] scum." So which is it?
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In post 247, thezmon221 wrote:
While lurking is frowned upon, it's not necessarily a scum tell. The only real questionable vote on your wagon is Lurker. All of the other 4 votes actually do have reasons (mine is included, of course).In post 245, ArcAngel9 wrote:And Thez, Good job in joining my WAGON, Its very obvious that people who is been lurking and not playing are more town than me. Isn't it?You bring it upon yourself here.
your bold is bad. No body wishes to be lynched even Scum. I am Town I could only do what i can to prove in my best, and the rest is upon the team. Remember, as much I want to prove as town, the town also need to find me. If they're not willing, its not happening. you could say these things easily now, put yourself in my shoes and you may react similar or less. the problem is with the players who is playing with their own conditions not with the team.
Right now I can only understand the Impact, and you would know that after my lynch. I normally don't care to stick around. i am okay to be lynched and sign up a different game but i am fighting becuz i understand i am important to the town. At least until i make a good use of my powers.Inatimeofancientgods,warlordsandkings,alandinturmoilcriedoutforahero.ShewasXena,amightyprincessforgedintheheatofbattle.Thepower,thepassion,thedanger.Hercouragewillchangetheworld-Xena Warrior Princess, Coming Soon!!