Mini 1681: Pokémon Mafia (Abandoned)
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Yo Marcrell, there are peeps who have spoken even less than ZZZX. Take a look at McMenno. Actually, there is a lot of scummy/lazy voting behavior happening from a lot of people.
Initially, I thought that Randomidget might be scum trying to look like town having purchased a low costing item which is why I was asking about the item itself. Then A Simple Plan started talking about the probability of himnotbeing Dark-Type-Pokemon and I kinda changed my mind. THEN I was thinking about strategy and was like... if scum are all dark-type pokemon, this game would be easy cause their special attacks all have status stuff that would be easily traced back to them. So I began to think about how the mod was going to get around all of the evidence left behind from attacks and started to re-read the OP when I realized that scum aren't bound to Dark-Type-Pokemon. They can be any type, which then gave me a solid starting point to get some reads on people.
A Simple Plan is almost certainly town for not realizing this as I took most of what his trying to solve this game dealt with trying to find who the dark-types were.
Marcrell and Rando jumped to the scum-side of my reads after I read:
In post 36, Marcrell wrote:
Watch out for item effects as well. Town could only buy certain items, people with ones costing more have to be scum, at least before some people faint.
Why would town-Marcrell say this in the thread? Why wouldn't town-Marcrell keep this strategy for scum-hunting to himself? He would be more than capable of watching out for item effects himself and revealing that smoking-gun when it presented itself. By stating this as town, he is at the very least alerting any scum who didn't realize that using a more expensive item than town would have been able to buy to not use it until it couldn't be verifiably traced back.
I believe that Marcrell was trying to draw attention to this type of scum hunting BECAUSE Randomidget purchased an item that was well within a town-budget, and was mod confirmed that he indeed purchased said item. He was trying to get people to realize it without directly stating it himself. Highly likely that Marcrell and Rando are on the same team. At the very least, his comment was pretty anti-town.
Top that off with a lack of strong opinions/attacks and a final vote for a weak/easy target. I think Marcrell is a strong contender for who should be targeted for elimination this phase.
VOTE: Marcrell-
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In post 124, Mikazuki wrote:What.
Domino and Boon hadn't posted either at that point, does he have a reason to pick you over them?
Vote with no useful comment on the easiest target right now? Nah, I don't like it either.
If you are trying to argue that it was a random vote between us three, thats fine. But it wasn't random in that he went eeny meeny miny moe between the entire player-list. It was a vote with thought and intent behind it. I can't answer on the reasoning as he himself isn't speaking on the subject either. Although I am glad you don't like lazy votes.
Also, I don't think it wise to end the target phase with attacks spread out. Ideally, we should all be targeting one, maybe two people collectively. Getting the general population's hit points down makes easy sniping for scum. We should get a more concrete idea of a narrowed target list in the next day to leave us with three days to hash out any last-minute items so we aren't making rushed decisions.
P-EDIT: Thanks Arceus for confirming my suspicion-
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You aren't scum for it, all I'm saying is it's a viable play for scum to make, and decently crafted if both you and Marcrell are scum together. What's your read on him? Don't take it as a personal attack, nor one regarding your play thus far. If your anger stems from having been caught so early on then completely justifiable.-
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Rando,
I asked for your read on Marcrell a while ago, also regarding your not liking my theory I am going to take us all back to the age-old-argument of no-lynching D1, because if we don't get a pokemon to faint D1, its essentially the same. We go into D2 with less useful information especially because we can't determine alignment based on who is what pokemon. I am not exactly sure how many hits we need on someone to get them to faint, but my guess is that we will need at least a majority of hits, if not more.
Why are you defending Marcrell anyway?
Who are you going to burn?-
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Lazy Votes/Votes that appear to have little scum-hunting behind them: McMenno, Randomidget, ZZZX, Marcrell, Burn, Lucky
In post 168, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I agree with Random that your theory for Random/Marcrell both being scum is reaching pretty hard. Your last point on Marcrell is pretty good though.
Do you have a town-read on Random? The far-reach is the reason I am targeting Marcrell today and not Random. I do find it odd that Random is defending Marcrell. And actually, the fact that there IS day-talk/a pt for scum lends more credence to my theory that they could be working in conjunction as they could have pre-planned it out in their own pt.
Kari isn't a bad D1 target, but she pretty much falls into a category with McMenno, Lucky, Boonskies, Domino, Etc. (I realize you may disagree with this.) I think there is more evidence pointing to Marcrell scum rather than Kari scum. Care to have a discussion about this?-
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In post 228, A Simple Plan wrote:
Also, @ProHawk: you mean the ruling that the scum "Dark Pokemon" doesn't mean Dark Types? Is it a reasonable thought to think they might be the signature Team Rocket Pokemon then- IE Meowth, Koffing/Weezing, Ekans/Arbok?
Yes, the ruling makes you almost assuredly town. I think it could be reasonable, but until we see who the dark pokemon are, we shouldn't be hunting off that assumption.-
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People in this game are straight up trolling, and they ALL can't be scum. I will henceforth call them scum-screeners.
In post 236, Burn Your House Down wrote:
i don't get the fuss about randommidget and the flame orb he bought
I believe that it's an easy way for scum to get town-cred, but so far it's just me.-
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In post 252, Burn Your House Down wrote:
Because I'm a hydra and expected my partner to cover for me in this game? Plus this is a pretty boring game.
Kari is obvscum, don't disengage. I was pretty joyed when you pressured her and she gave a scum response. Then I don't read this thread for 2 days and I get a text from Mainez and you are here pushing for lurking? Lol.
This is not a town response.-
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I'm kinda biased, but would rather see a Marcrell flip over a Burn flip. Burn would you please convince me on Kari scum? Also, McMenno is being replaced... so new reads based on new player will be in order.
In post 279, Bellaphant wrote:I'm sorry, the sheep is too cute
This is a scum post? :S-
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In post 414, Boonskiies wrote:
This might actually be a townslip actually, but I've 'faketownslipped' as scum before so I don't know. I don't get the 4 scum thing, as itisa mini normal and that's actually a high amount of people on the scum team. I don't know. It seems like a fake town slip.
Is Boon this conniving as scum?-
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In post 502, MarioManiac4 wrote:SO sorry about that, I thought the scum completely had me fooled. But there is one player I would like to make a case on, and I will post it later.
I don't get it, at first I thought it was a joke, but then he seems serious?-
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Case isn't really on you, its on your predecessor, but your absence regardless of excuse and especially because there are two of you is only fuel to the fire.
IIRC BBT was the only one on a single wagon that was in agreement of the idea of focusing on one or two targets, and he can't use the excuse of inactivity being on one as he is the most prolific poster here.-
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No one seems to care that PN gave numerous promises that were unfulfilled. They were on the chopping block, should have died, had all of this time to "figure" out who scum were that were trying to kill them, yet decided to say nothing and do nothing even though that may have been their last breath. This is CLASSIC SCUM WHO DON'T WANT TO GIVE AWAY PARTNERS/DON'T CARE ABOUT THE GAME
It sucks to be scum in the game because you have no night stuff to kill town. I feel for you, I really do. Scum this game are going to be either the lurkers or people who love nightless games. Marcrell AND Bert AND Gaiden aka Perpetual Nonsense, all of whom shared the same slot, have been doing absolutely jack this WHOLE game. They need to die. They need to flip. Once I figure out how damage works in this game I am going to find the scum who helped them live because I gave them one heck of a punch and they should have been dead had everyone on that targeting list hit as they should have.-
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