Mini 1684: Shucking Bullfit Mafia - Game Called

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

SleepyKrew told me he was only interested in playing if we drew the third party role.
Confirm

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

/confirm

I was going to say bummer town, but my role, vote restriction and posting restriction are so hilarious and other than the posting restriction just fit me too perfectly and are too hilarious to actually be bummed about it.

Hey nacho, if you're scum, I dare you to make this the game of discrediting bucket!

Oh I guess one thing I should make clear up front and while I have the words available; I'm a treestump until day 5.

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Would you be mad if I voted you right here?

It seems pretty convenient for you to have a post restriction that limits words and posts available to you so that you have an easier time playing scum against me but I also don't want you to waste words if town calling me discrediting scum when I'm clearly not

So I guess I'm going to pretend this post never existed and pretend your post restriction was SUPER DUPER TOWN and move on!

-Still Missing Sleepykrew

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

I'm also tempted to vote Cephrir for being Tammy's boytoy, but temptation is such a cruel, cruel road to go down and so I won't. Layla's point in #24 is also probably correct and Tammy if town could explain her post restriction better (why not give specifics?) and call me scum or whatever.

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-Sleepykrew, I Love You!

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

I would like to publicly state my long-standing theory that Layla is zoraster's wife.
/SleepyKrew's only post in the entire game ever

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

It's pretty obvious my role was made by BRO without me outing anything about my role itself.

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

And determining a solid group of four is beneficial in and of itself, if one exists.

"We need a fifth (of vodka)" does reference BBMolla's open setup, and does sound like a role he would design.

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

@llamarble: iffy

It's not BBMolla. I pretty strongly doubt it's AP.

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

Barbie.

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

You guys are taking a quirky fun setup and turning it into shit.

Can we just svum hunt?

We are approaching it in a non-traditional way.
I don't think that hurts anything in particular.

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

Like Burgers - how you guys doing? I was thinking about the post in which you asked me about the specifics of my post restriction. Did it actually matter to you and why? Inquiring minds and all that jazz.

Knowing how free you are to post is important in determining how I interact with you, yeah.

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

I'm not really willing to claim more about our role than we already have (re: Marquis & Cephrir requests) unless they are willing to give us more information as to why they need what they do. Information claiming is a give and take, and I'm not willing to give up things to people I'm not particularly reading as town just because they asked for it.

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which while some roles might be that easy I doubt all are, so it's pointless.

If we can pin down one moderator's town roles, the exercise isn't pointless. I don't think this is a far fetched hope.

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

Also, I'm fairly certain I've located one of the people I'm interested in, but we'll find out.

you know how sketchy this is right

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

Just because it's not traditional, I don't think it hurts anything.

Are you mistrusting dram? If so/not why your previous posts and then this one.

Ie if you're dine with no traditional based on claims, why not just out yours, why the song and dance about give and take?

I trust dram.
I've claimed my role to dram. I haven't/won't claim role for Cephrir/Marquis.

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

by crumbing flavor

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

Dram has called ceph town, marquis maybe town, so do you trust dram or not trust his interpretive capabilities?

Also, there are no limits to people interacting with me, I'm just word and post limited, so my language might be stilted or I might have to wait a while to post.

When someone claims role name or crumbs role name and dram makes a definitive call on his alignment, I trust him. When he makes inferences on their role based on how they are approaching the game and disagrees with their calls for massclaims and complexity claims, I don't take what they're saying at face value.

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

Why didn't you claim that instead of crumbling your flavor name for him?

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

but yeah
seems pretty straightforward

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

Vote: Zipper

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

is there any reason you havent told us your win condition yet

He has told us his win condition.
I don't understand where people's dumb, dumb paranoia is coming from, especially when dramonic is very clearly telling the truth.

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

I think lynching him now is fine since his role is too unrealistic. I'm not sure a role that can townside with all that info is possible, but a survivor is definitely not so has to have some anti-town elements to have lied like that.

So you believe that he's the epicmafia werewolf with the flavor names and roles of every player in the game? And instead of just claiming that "my role needs flavor to work" or "I get people's role PMs if I correctly guess their flavor names" he gives us the entire scumteam?

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and him acting so uncertain when one of those 3 should be my totally fierce glam role just looks like he's lying about what his role actually is/knows

What do you think his role actually is?
What do you think he actually knows?

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I'm not sure a role that can townside with all that info is possible, but a survivor is definitely not so has to have some anti-town elements to have lied like that.

And again, what role do you think he has?
It's going to be difficult for him to survive two nights with scum spite-shooting him at night and town apparently playing it safe.

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

Nacho do you think his claim is believable and if so why? If not why would he lie if he actually wants to assist the town?

His claim is believable because of how he played it. He gave town perfect information: it makes sense that moderators didn't expect him to play this way because of how much trust it takes and how vulnerable it leaves him to a scumteam who is only going to be spite shooting. I don't know where he lied.

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

As I don't believe his claim I think the reason he'd lie would be if there was some aspect to his role that's anti town in nature. I'd rather him die then risk dealing with whatever that is, especially now that he has given us all the information I wanted.

Like... What? He lynches scum, all town die and he wins the game?

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

Or... He gets all flavor names and roles in the game, he matches them up properly then all town die and he wins the game?

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

i just dont see what is to be lost from playing it safe here other than omgfriendzies4eva

I tend not to screw over people who hand me a free win for absolutely no reason.

No one has provided any possible anti-town role dramonic could possess or any halfway decent argument that says his role is antitown (addressing the "he's too powerful to be town, bit: if all town has to do is lynch not him day 1 and then he wins the game, then how is that less powerful than what he claimed?). The argument for playing it safe covers very very fringe possibilities I don't care about or see as even remotely possible.

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

i still am like 90% sure dram's hiding some really fucking anti-town shit though but i don't know what i can do about it yet tbh

You're sure dramonic is hiding terrible antitown things because ???.

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

yall better listen to nacho

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So you think one of the mods is trash?

This is a dumb argument to make when you haven't provided an antitown alternative that isn't trash.

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

Man random.org is a cruel mistress if the scum team actually is Layla, peg, zip.

It happens.
I once got stuck on the same scumteam as you!

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

whatever i'll probably just sheep

i don't think ive ever cared so little about a mafia game

as long as i get to say i told you so

ok
sheep away, sweet Prince.

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

I blame sleepykrew.

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I'd encourage you to do the same.

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it doesn't take this long to lynch confirmed scum

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

it really and truly does not

[The Burgers of Llamarble]

Redirect Pegasus to Layla, Layla is commuting tonight.