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Hmm . . .DrippingGoofball wrote: It's funny. When I got my PM I sent in choices because I thought it was night.
As for Carbon Copy/Zindaras. I reckon it adds up ok role wise. Not sure what I make of the Inventor side of things mind and the fact Zindy has two roles both supposedly good guys.
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[quote="Primate"]Do you really think that this town has two sets of multiple life townies?
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Cat's have nine lives so anything's possible!
However, if Carbon Copy is town then Zindy is. I cannot believe the mod would let him have one town, one scum role. They're either both town or both scum. I'd probably lean towards townie but as we don't know I'm pretty content keeping my vote on the Copy at the mo.
As for Primate's two lives well I guess even if we lynch him, we won't learn much from it because you could still just as easily be scum or town.-
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I was voting your supposed alter ego before, what do you want me to do, sit there like a muppet. Fact is we got you and Primate both claiming pretty much two life townies . . . I'm not sure I believe either of you.Zindaras wrote: Also, theopor is one of the worst wagoners I ever did see.FoS: Theopor-
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Any reason? Or are you just throwing votes around for the sake of it.Glork wrote:Argh.
Unvote, Vote: theopor_COD
And CC I take it your finding suspicion on me because I vote hopped between your two roles, well excuse me, but 2 role townies like yourself and Primate are hard to believe, I apologise that one of your alter egos came back town, I'd tend to think the scum would already be aware that you'd be town and thus have distanced themselves from the wagon. Which makes me slighlty supsicious of WizardCat.-
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Fair enough, I guess with at least 3 scums out of 13, 1/2 would be expected on a lynch of 7. So out of these sevenGlork wrote:I find it highly unlikely that no scums were on Zindaras' lynch, and I'm not sure what to say/think about Phoebus. Of the players on that lynch, it seems reasonable to conclude that perhaps you are a scumbag on that lynch.
Zindaras (7, 0): Glork, DrippingGoofball, theopor_COD, Phoebus, Dragon Phoenix, Thesp, Primate
We've got Thesp town dead, Pheobus Independent of some kind dead and I'd expect a Dog to be more of a killer than a survivor but that's my own opinion. Then Glork, DG, me, DP and Primate - yeh I can see one of em being scum, it's too far fetched to expect no scum on board a day one lynch, so I understand your theory on me, however it's wrong. I was voting CC because I didn't believe his two role persona. I'm not clearing you, DG, DP or Primate.
Looking at the people not on the wagon aswell
Blahgo/Pooky - no posts, what gives?
Ubertimmy and WizardCat both silent until you Glork prompt them, they both then pipe up that they believe Zindies claim and he's town, convienent now that he's town eh.
ubertimmy wrote:Sorry, I have the SATs this weekend. been kinda busy.
I believe Zindaras's flavor too much to think he's scum... but what are you proposing glork? He has a scum side and a town side? I'm just a little overwhelmed, if you could summarize your accusations on him it'd really help me decide on that issue.
Massive another one who posted he tended to believe Zindy but hasn't brought much else to the table.Wizardcat wrote:
I actually have to post? Gah.Glork wrote:Can we getModprodson ubertimmy and Wizardcat? Neither of them have posted in over a week.
Thanks in advance.
Anyways, about the whole Zindaras issue... I believe his roleclaim. I think Primate is the liar. Of course, there is no proof to back either of their claims so this vote is based on their behavior. Zindaras is giving me the frusterated townie vibe.
Anyways,Unvote: The person I was voting, Vote: Primate
As for Primate - well he starts off with the attack on CC and is firmly in the Zindy is scum camp, counter claims of sorts with his claim of Little Nicky with two so called lives - the cat was cloned from adeadcat yet he still has two lives! Anyhow I tend to be unsure about him and he has since expressed suprise that there's two similar flavoured townies with double abilities. I would however be leaning towards voting one of DG or yesterday's lurkers/non Zindy voters. By the way I ought to add my special treat I mentioned before was another vote for today's lynch phase.-
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Agreed I could have been more helpful, plenty of ppl could have been though, some ppl haven't even posted yet. I get the feeling ppl are picking on the newbie for acting like a sheep.Carbon Copy wrote: You voted CC early on, then you disappeared for a while, added a couple of minor things, then you switched. I think that you could show a lot more contribution than you have.
Tell me, theopor, who's scum and why?
Who's scum? Well not CC, be truly bastsardly if you've got scum and town aliases. I'd be more concerned about Goofball and DP because of their votes on Zindy, not sure what to make of Goofball's restriction either and WizardCat, Timmy and Massive for nothing day one apart from distancing from the lynch. Blahgho/Pooky could be scum but maybe he's a mute.-
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unvote, vote WizardCat
For distancing himself from the Zindy lynch, near the end convientely . . . oh and because I can.
vote ubertimmy
for the same reasons.
One of them is scum I reckon and while I'm at it I'd love to give Dripping Goofball and Dragon Pheonix a vote, but I've run out.
Anyway someone pls post or I'll dayvig you all-
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It's only a theory. You seem to be pretty defensive about it mind, never said I was a good player either, infact I feel out of my depth in the present company, where's Battle Mage when you need him.ubertimmy wrote:Yep, I'm obviously scum, because I wasn't on the lynch of a townie and I have perfectly valid reasons for it. Good Job, theopor, you're the best player ever.
Double Vote today only, someone passed it on to me, heck knows why, would you rather I didn't reveal it and waste a potential vote, for all I know someone else will get the double vote tomorrow or had it yesterday and didn't announce it and it's 6 to lynch not 1 so need to panic.ubertimmy wrote: And I warn you, if theopor has a doublevote, I amvery, very, veryclose to being lynched. so please, unvote.-
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Dragon Phoenix wrote:Back. So far I am pretty sure that Glork and Primate are innocent
Care to elaborate why they're both cleared? Massive seems to know something with regard to Primate and Glork just seems to acting pro town, but looking at most of his games, that's his playstyle.
Glork wrote:So if the scums knew that Zindaras was legit, meaning they knew that he was a famous cat, I would certainly expect them to be all over his wagon. Let's take a look at his end-of-day vote count:
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Zindaras (7, 0): Glork, DrippingGoofball, theopor_COD, Phoebus, Dragon Phoenix, Thesp, Primate
I think that every player should probably weigh in on the living players on this wagon. I'd guess about two cartoon-crazies, and right now I'm looking at Theo and DGB as the most likely scumbags on Zindaras' lynch.
I've already responded why I voted Zindie earlier, mainly that I was voting CC, the votes all moved to the Zindie wagon and I moved mine because I wasn't sure of CC/Zindie's allegiance and it'd be pointless keeping it on CC. It was the actions of a sheep agreed.
I can appreciate the scum would be aware that Zindie would turn up non-scum, by that he could have been independent or town so that leaves Glork, DP, Me, DGB and Primate however the non voters on the wagon would also be aware of that and distance themselves from it hence my suspicions of WizardCat, Timmy, Massive and Pooky - mind I'm not sure what to make of Timmy's half life claim. I'd also add that the scum look to have killed one of Thesp/Pheobus to pressurise ppl on the Zindie lynch. As such I'm happy with a vote on WizardCat and it could be a reason why Timmy attacked Glork from the off.
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Actually, I have some other things I want people to weigh in on:
-What do you think of the discussion Primate and I had about Phoebus's role? Do you think he was an SK or a Survivor? (please read the argument first)
-What do you think of Goofy's claim?
Question 1 - I've read it and still think it's more likely that Pheobus was a SK, unless the scum have two kills per night which would be incredibly unlikely. Fact that both aliases belonged to US presidents could indicate somehow that Pheobus and Thesp were linked possibly and if one died the other did, not sure. Mind with Massive/Primate and CC/Zindy being some kind of link, I can't see it.
Question 2 - Hmm I don't know, mind she slipped up here and nothing was made of it
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I have been very busy professionally but I promise I will read this game with a fine-toothed comb and come up with some reasoning sometime today.
So I think it's probably hogwash. She was also believing the Zindie claim to be true but then hopped on the wagon. Oh and I've never heard of Tuffy the Sleeping Cat.-
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Miztef my apparent lack of voting is no different to anyone else.Miztef wrote:I am ready to state a vote. so...Vote: theopor_COD.
I don't really want to quote a billion things and explain each one, so here's the condensed reasoning.
- lots of boredom/annoyed posts, It looks like some of these posts have actual content or opinions, but alot of it is fluff. I don't like it.
- Mass claim. I see no reason for a mass claim, and already many have claimed and explained their roles.
- of the 28 total posts COD made, 8 of them include some sort of vote switch. Maybe because COD has the extra vote, but to me this is a bit too much vote hopping. Especially considering there were multiple vote switchs in 3 of them.
-After apr. 3 there has not been a single vote from COD, that's alot of time to choose someone to vote for, especially considering that there was alot of vote hopping beforehand. I am a bit suspicious of the change in behavior. (there was a player lag during this time, I know, but that's not enough for me)
Hopefully we can get this game rolling again.
Since April 3rd -
Massive has voted DGB
Glork has voted WizardCat and Me
You have voted Me.
That is all.
I haven't changed my behaviour there's just been very little to get worked up about some people have posted what once in that time frame. As for voting being as I have two I'm going to be pretty convinced on someone before I vote anyone, is that not easy to understand.-
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Why because I targeted him last night to test his claim therefore he should have lost a life last night, unless he was protected or roles were somehow swapped by a bus driver kinda character or he's lieing out of his teeth and has actually lost a life.Miztef wrote:
interesting, why do you say this? When should he have lost a life?theopor_COD wrote:
Thing is you should have lost a life, infact I'm not sure why you didn't.Primate wrote:You're naive if you think anyone other than a vig is going to take away a life, and if we had a vig, it would have happenedlastnight.-
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Skruffy I just wouldn't have expected them to have disspeared, as they appear to have, looking at the night scene, more dead in the gutter with bite marks. Plus I've never claimed my target was switched - it was always Primate but he seems to have come out unscathed for some apparent reason, getting the extra vote however may have something to do with the lack of a kill.-
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Well I went to kill Primate, if somehow someone's reflected roles as such then its possible, I guess, but unlikely all the same. I've no idea why I've been given the vote, all I received was a note saying I'd gained an extra vote for today. Although I'd think it was unlikely that I'm able to use a dead-mans (cats) vote, but with no-one else revealing that they've lost a vote, I'm not sure where its come from. I think it's more likely one of DGB's dreams has been passed on to me and as such it was an extra vote. Do we know who received her dream the previous day and what it entailed? DGB do you have any idea what your sending out?Skruffs wrote: The reason I asked was because of the wording up there. "Passed it on to me" strikes me as something like "They died... and passed it on to me' - which is why I was wondering if maybe youkilled someone last nightand stole their vote.-
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Do explain? Do you not believe my claim? I can attest to having two votesSkruffs wrote:I think there's better choices.
Like double voter there.todayI didn't have them yesterday, whoever gets what tomorrow I dunno. DGB obviously gives gifts out but I think we've probably got a re-director or bus driver who's not come forward and is messing with everyone, would such a role belong in the scum camp? I've only seen them as town, but with the weirdness going on, heck knows.
Pooky and Timmy need to check - Timmy hasn't posted anywhere for yonks and prob needs replacing.
Moving on, I don't really see what more we're going to gain out of the day, Skruffs has twilight to respond and tomorrow as I don't expect Bert will be all that swift to close the thread.
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No idea, the only thing I know is DGB's supposedly giving gifts out, no one claims to have received anything, she didn't send anything to me she says, yet I got an extra vote for the duration of yesterday.
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theopor_COD wrote:Double Vote today only, someone passed it on to me, heck knows why, would you rather I didn't reveal it and waste a potential vote, for all I know someone else will get the double vote tomorrow or had it yesterday and didn't announce it and it's 6 to lynch not 1 so need to panic.-
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Am I missing something whilst I plough through all of this, where was Thesp revealed as even remotely being a mason? I'd agree with Pooky as regards unbalanced setups and masonry -
we've had what Massive/Primate; Zindaras/CC and supposedly Pheobus linked somehow with Thesp/Miztef, seems awfully far-fetched.
Another thing which concerns me if Miztef is town, why the heck did you use your one supposed investigation on Glork - if Glork's pulling fake claims and what not out of his hat we will be able to test him, surely it would have made much more sense with one investigation to look at DGB, Skruffs or even me.
Someone mentioned lylo earlier aswell and I think if we lynch incorrectly today, scum kill tonight, lynch Nai tomorrow (only need 2 of 4 votes) - then they will win, I think. Can anyone clarify.
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Night 0 - No one.Primate wrote:@Everyone: Correct me if I'm wrong regarding anything here. Also, I would like a list of all night actions everyone has made so far. Given the amount of claims circulating, most at the minute are annoyingly vague.
Night 1 - Primate. Recieved the double vote.
Night 2 - No one.
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Ah okay then . . . but surely Miztef/WizardCat and Thesp would not be masons with the Dog (Pheobus) is that right? I'm kinda believeing the claim then but his investigation makes little sense from a town point of view to me.
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The whole Glork/Pooky sideshow is quite baffling. I haven't yet ruled out the pair of them as scum buddies either although that would be a helluva gambit, I'm still trying to work out who I believe most in all honesty. I don't neccesarily see Glork as scum if Miztef is either. Miztef could be scum with Pooky or Glork or he could be town. My main bug-bear with Miztef is his one-shot investigation was pretty much wasted on Glork, the claim he could have quite easily manufactured.
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Sigh.
Miztef why Glork? With your one investigation please. Yesterday you were most suspicious of me from what I can recall, why not me? We could have verified Glork by other means i.e lynching Pooky in this case. Which I still think is preferable to lynching Glork but words are drowning my thoughts.
My name is Simon, the ship's cat from HMS Amethyst during the 1950s. Smuggled aboard the ship, I soon became resident rat-catcher and endured endless amounts of bravery in continuing to wipe out the rats on board. I can now continue my acts of bravery and killing practices in my new home of Minto, each night I'm allowed to take flight and attack anyone I view as a threat to the peace and harmony of my new found home.Nai wrote:I think that Theo's flavor is still missing-
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