Mini 1813 - Overwatch Mafia! TOWN WINS

[DoctorPepper]

RUSH B CYKA BLYAT.

Oh shit this is Overwatch and not CSGO.

VOTE: Random midget

Random vote for the random midget

[DoctorPepper]

VOTE: PeterVOTE:

Was that RVS? Even after Shadow said RVS has ended?

[DoctorPepper]

VOTE: Peter

[DoctorPepper]

Also, am I the only one reading all of Tracer's posts in her voice?

Ever get the feeling of Deja Vu?

[DoctorPepper]

Uhm I havent been able to keep up because of work and playing actual overwatch, can someone fill me in?

[DoctorPepper]

That's my line!

Ok, I have a question for you Tracer, did you create your account before or after receiving your role PM?

This post is so bad, it's paranoid scum trying to look busy.

VOTE: Spring

I'm gonna go off this. Why would this be a legitimate reason to vote for anyone.

VOTE: Shadow

[DoctorPepper]

Actually nevermind

This must be those rare cases that RQS isn't scummy

No point in me answering because its echoing alot of people

Genji is surprisingly town

Why do you think I am town now?
I kind of find it weird you scumread me alone for RQS? I have experienced some scum using it, but I have never thought of it as scum tell.

RQS is scummy as fuck really

Its an easy way of saying "Hey guys I'm doing stuff" and gets instantly townread

Its like saying tobjourn deserves play of the game (He totally does )

Why is RQS scummy as fuck? Especially since nothing had actually happened until that time.

I don't believe in RQS, but thats really a weird reason to get a read. Ironically this post comes off as 'Hey I'm gonna do something and suspect someone so I seem active'

[DoctorPepper]

Yes but what shadow did is exactly that, fake scum hunting.

[DoctorPepper]

i asked a question because of engineer's reaction made me think he is getting something i'm not

Also played with DP, yes

DP knowing this account? No

...

Who are you?

Also why is RQS scummy. RQS is more newbie to me

[DoctorPepper]

That isn't what you said
VOTE: Doctor Pepper
L-2

Fill me in on why this was a good reason to put me at L-2

[DoctorPepper]

Who are you?

)

[DoctorPepper]

That isn't what you said
VOTE: Doctor Pepper
L-2

Fill me in on why this was a good reason to put me at L-2

fabricating reasons to scumread people.

VOTE: randomidget

You are a hypocrite

[DoctorPepper]

So would killing you give you cinf town status?

[DoctorPepper]

VOTE: Tracer

I have a vote ability that may kick in and make this a hammer

[DoctorPepper]

So I'm assuming Torbjorn has a vote on me.

[DoctorPepper]

DoctorPepper (1) - Turret

lolwut

Either Torbjorn or Symmetra. Im basing this on flavor, but in the game these are the only characters who have turrets who attack for you. Thus they could be double voting this way. In this case, I am assuming (by flavor) that the person voting me is town

[DoctorPepper]

Flavor. In the game, the turrets are made by Torbjorn and Symmetra, who have no connection to either the omnics or Blackwatch.

I wanna try something
VOTE: Wake

[DoctorPepper]

^I'm sure Mafia have mod given flavor claims in this case. However, this is kinda undisputed to me, as I dont see how this makes sense flavorwise

[DoctorPepper]

Actually If there are 3 scum i wouldnt know who the third one is

[DoctorPepper]

Flavor. In the game, the turrets are made by Torbjorn and Symmetra, who have no connection to either the omnics or Blackwatch.

I wanna try something
VOTE: Wake

Flavor. In the game, the turrets are made by Torbjorn and Symmetra, who have no connection to either the omnics or Blackwatch.

I wanna try something
VOTE: Wake

Is

that

what you think?
Then I suggest a mass flavor claim.

^I'm sure Mafia have mod given flavor claims in

this case

. However,

this

is kinda undisputed to me, as I dont see how

this

makes sense flavorwise

I'm honestly confused by this progression. I feel like you guys are talking about something in the flavor I'm not familiar with. There are a lot of pronouns flying around, and I don't know what they're referring to.

DocPep, are you suggesting that Torb and Symmetra's alignment might be in question because of their flavor connections (or lack thereof) with Blackwatch and the Omnics? If so, could you explain this to me like I've never heard of these characters before?

I underlined and italicized the pronouns that I'm not sure I'm following.

Torbjorn and Symmetra have no connections to the bad guys in the flavor. Even if theg can fakeclaim, you cant fakeclaim them now that they actually used the ability. I think the turret is no qiestion, town

[DoctorPepper]

I honestly think anyone in the list is capable of just getting DGB killed D1

Why?

Wake please

just look at the playerlist and imagine that all the alts, like me, have alot of experience in MS.

If anything foxbird is the only new player

I am not liking this explanation of the DGB kill, but I still can't wrap my head around it completely with considering the scenarios, it could be from someone who knew them, but I don't consider that player impressive in anyway, beyond being fairly active and giving their own thoughts. Perhaps thought was unlikely mislynch? The speculation so far on that kill hasn't given me any solid suspects.

I don't know who would have been a great kill on the previous night though, so maybe it was just not any good targets?

DGB doesn't play as much, i think she normally plays Large games. But she is very famous in the community. Her join date is also listed as 2005. So newer players might think that is indicative. Furthermore, her slot gave literally no info as she wasnt able to post as much. Which is why NKA on DGB doesnt work because there isnt any info gained from the NK and thats exactly what scum wanted.

[DoctorPepper]

>>> Tracer wanted to be hammered.
>>> Tracer was hammered by Town.
>>> Someone calls hammer a bad move?

You really should have let Tracer self hammer.

This. And Wake, you keep pushing this idea that youre town and we have no way of confirming that idea. Just stop. This is why you are scum read

[DoctorPepper]

@serra of course not.

[DoctorPepper]

DGB doesn't play as much, i think she normally plays Large games. But she is very famous in the community. Her join date is also listed as 2005. So newer players might think that is indicative. Furthermore, her slot gave literally no info as she wasnt able to post as much. Which is why NKA on DGB doesnt work because there isnt any info gained from the NK and thats exactly what scum wanted.

I really don't like this, for one you don't explain what her being famous has to do with anything. This to mean that anyone would kill her because she is widely known?

The assumption that scum killed her for the reason of notoriety that would not be easily analyzed troubles me too.

I am going to recheck her ISO to see if theres anything I might be missing.

Im just saying a lot of people analyze the DGB death becauae she is known. And wonder who will have a motive for killing her, either newer players or people who know her. All im saying is her death gives really littlw info and thats probably why she did and we should stop speculating over this.

Scummy post

[DoctorPepper]

So I'm pretty sure low-effort DP can be either alignment.

But boys, I really really really really REALLY think Wake is town here.
Look at his faulty logics more closely. Do you know what causes the fault in his logic?

"Wake88 is town."

The fact that he's using that as a piece as his logic bridge and not being aware that it is only confirmed for him and not for everyone else makes him incredibly town. Common logical townslip.
(And yes, Wake constantly mentioning that he is town does not matter in this case. It's about his logic progresses, not about whether he is aware of him saying that he is town.)

Do you actually think wake wouldn't be capable of faking this?

Its me not really playing Minis. I have a hard time keeping up with 13 players. I only joined because of the theme but I never play anything larger than a Micro

[DoctorPepper]

Why is DP not lynched yet though

VOTE: The Engineer

The only content im seeing from this slot is 'Lynch DP' without anything else. Lets do this.

[DoctorPepper]

RUSH B CYKA BLYAT.

Hi I'm Zarya. This was my crumb, i spoke in Russian. I am a 1 shot Jailkeeper (shot hasnt been used btw) and a omnic double voter. Which is why I keep switching votes as I was hunting for omnics.

My wagon is really bad because im such an easy target. Face it, my lynch gives very little info. I am low hanging fruit. I am a very easy target for saying "scummy things" despite people already washing their hands off my lynch.

Im inactive as I dont play Mini games and the only reason i joined is because I like the theme. Its also worth noting I play more invested as scum than town but take that as you wish. But if you want to lynch me, consider lynching this first

VOTE: Genji

Understand that while I havent been the towniest player, Genji is already trying to wash his hands off my lynch, along with Shadow. I think Genji is scum. He's already preparing for my town flip.

[DoctorPepper]

Uhm I havent been able to keep up because of work and playing actual overwatch, can someone fill me in?

Yes but what shadow did is exactly that, fake scum hunting.

That isn't what you said
VOTE: Doctor Pepper
L-2

Fill me in on why this was a good reason to put me at L-2

@Serrapaladin-why DP is scum ^^

DP's reaction to their wagon which has formed twice in 2 days now was a horrible omgus vote.
I don't expect scum to be this horrible...

Also OMGUS is not a scum tell. Hell, the reasons for people voting me are bad, of course Im going to think they are scum.

[DoctorPepper]

Why genji more than shadow? I can sort of understand the reasoning of not wanting you around at LyLo, but shadow's "too scummy to be scum" is weird.

They are both weird. I've already voted shadow and concluded he isnt an omnic, so I'm trying to find out who is. I agree that too scummy to be scum is bad, especiallt since his basis is OMGUS. But Genji's "not wanting me to be around during lylo" is bad because
1. It's Completely discrediting me. I'm actually decent when I give a crap and you know that.
2. Maybe I'm right about someone being scum and he doesnt like that?

[DoctorPepper]

also, now that you're here, wanna claim your abilities?

I am a 1 shot Jailkeeper (shot hasnt been used btw) and a omnic double voter.

This is very interesting. While I don't think that role is necessarily town aligned, I read his full claim as pretty townie.

DrPep, did you read my accusation of randommidget?

VOTE: randommidget

His wagon on DoctorPepper seems bad to me. His argument for starting it is "If this flips scum then there was scum on the Tracer counterwagon." But do you have an actual reason to scumread DoctorPepper, or are just assuming that Tracer is a counterwagon, despite her insistence that she's lynched for mechanical reasons? It feels like his reason to wagon DoctorPepper is to lynch him, and gain information about the Tracer wagon, but that seems like a piss poor train of thought.

Do you have a differing opinion on this slot?

Nope, randommidget is scummy to me as well.

[DoctorPepper]

This question has nothing to do with my read on you and I want to be amused. More of a theory question, I guess.

My wagon is really bad because im such an easy target. Face it, my lynch gives very little info. I am low hanging fruit. I am a very easy target for saying "scummy things" despite people already washing their hands off my lynch.

What exactly about being a low hanging fruit/easy target prevent a player from being scum?
Can scum not be a low hanging fruit?

UNVOTE: for now.

They can, but I'm only "scummy" because
1. Inactive
2. OMGUS
3. Reads they dont agree with

Not a very strong case, no info. Thus, low hanging fruit.

[DoctorPepper]

I cant believe me asking for a recap is scummy. Shadow is definitely on my scum list

[DoctorPepper]

So, I am honestly a bit confused on flavor and how its tied to abilities.
For one DP is claiming to be a Omnic but also claiming the flavor character of Zarya.
Which has nothing flavor wise to do with the Omnic.

For the record, I have the Omnic trait, which means I can't lynch Omnic. My characters flavor matches though however.
I am starting to suspect that DP is lying though.

But my understanding of this mechanic would mean that DP shouldn't be scum....

Never claimed to be an omnic. I claim to be able to double vote omnics.

[DoctorPepper]

Well since DP has voted Genji, and Genji has claimed omnic, we should be getting confirmation of that ability with the next VC.

Also, I had a look at flavour-related stuff, and Zarya doesn't really like omnics, moreso than perhaps any other member of Overwatch, so the ability makes sense. If we get the voting confirmed, that means DP is likely actually Zarya, and then I don't think he would so obviously crumb his true role as scum in such a flavour-heavy game.

If it was so obviously crumbed, how come nobody really noticed it :>

[DoctorPepper]

He gave a reason for a vote, i pressured him, he changed the reason. That is scummy.

That's my line!

Ok, I have a question for you Tracer, did you create your account before or after receiving your role PM?

This post is so bad, it's paranoid scum trying to look busy.

VOTE: Spring

I'm gonna go off this. Why would this be a legitimate reason to vote for anyone.

VOTE: Shadow

Yes but what shadow did is exactly that, fake scum hunting.

No, random. He didn't. This is the same thing said in two different ways.
213: "That is not a legitimate reason to vote for anyone."
217: "Shadow is fake scum hunting, by coming up with illegitimate reasons to vote for someone."

It's the same damn thing.

FUCKING THANK YOU. Someone gets it. Its bugging me why people are scum reading me for this when its basically the same thing.

Im going rm if I confirm Genji is omnic and I have reason to lay off Genji.

Oh and Genji, to answer you regarding me voting omnics. Do all omnics know each other. Are you neighbors or masons. Do you have day talk.

There has to be logic in me.having the doublevote. Normall, in a neighborhood there is 1 scum, otherwise they would just be masons. And why would I be given an ability to doublevote if all my targets are potentially town.

Basically im sure theres at least 1 scum with the omnics

[DoctorPepper]

Guys

Or

We can not derail the DP wagon

I have no idea why we arent lynching this/pressuring this slot to give more info other than "lynch DP". Its starting to be pretty fluffy and the engineer's posts indicate that they post to not get prodded by posting innocuous things that wont attract attention

[DoctorPepper]

My sincerest apologies for the lack of activity. I am still alive, and will catch up with stuff tomorrow.

Should we tell him?

[DoctorPepper]

I was looking for omnics without considering that the VC may not represent it

[DoctorPepper]

I dont even know why im being scum read. This is a terrible wagon. Im scum for having "different reasons for my reads"

This town deserves to lose tbh

[DoctorPepper]

Sure.

VOTE: Shadow

Hows that.

I'd also want an Engineer lynch

[DoctorPepper]

VOTE: podoboq

I'm torbjorn, the turret is me.

So you accuse me of OMGUS and are now committing OMGUS :>

[DoctorPepper]

Hi, can anyone counterclaim ownership of the turret

[DoctorPepper]

Hi, can anyone counterclaim ownership of the turret

Loooool
You really think I'd be that dumb as scum to do such a thing.

Idk, apparently you thought I was too dumb as scum because I OMGUS'd you.

[DoctorPepper]

Can someone actually explain why I'm scum. Because im pretty sure this is a scum pushed wagon.

Apparently Im scum because I'm defensive and I was inactive. Im not blatantly misrepping people like random. Im not completely BS-ing and discrediting like Shadow. And the engineer has been posting literally 1 thought which is "lynch DP" yet somehow im the scummiest.


Maybe its the fact that I'm town, I claimed a town ability and some people got to their senses

[DoctorPepper]

Sure.

VOTE: Shadow

Hows that.

I'd also want an Engineer lynch

Why does it seem like you want to lynch anyone and everyone but yourself?
You reek of just pure survivalism.

Can you explain your scumreads more than just "They are voting me?"

Because the reasons are crap, bad reads meant to misrepresent me/make me look scummy. Theres a difference in uaing cases to convince people someone is scummy and making someone look scummy. The cases on me are people making me look scummy, not people actually convinced I am scum.

Youre discrediting me by claiming this is OMGUS when this has never been the case.

Oh and lets cut the survivalism crap. Lets dispel the notion that town has no reason to want to survive. Knowing youre town and having people think youre scum is annoying because 1)you know its a mislynch 2) you know its scum motivated and 3) you know you it brings you closer ti lylo

[DoctorPepper]

Guys, "only scum have an incentive to survive", " OMGUS", "Low activity", " Only defending yourself" are honestly outdated scum tactics in MS meta. If you've been on the site for longer than the two newbie games to become a qualified SE, you would know that these are not bonafide indicators of scumminess. The longer you play here, the more you realize these are Non Alignment indicatives. This is because town have reason to do this as well. OMGUS for crappy voting. Defensiveness because you know this lynch is a mistake. Survivalism because you are well aware that your death is a mislynch. Low activity because people have lives outside the game.

The real reasons to scum read are fabricating reasons to make someone look scummy, misreps and discredits, and faking activity (posting non insightful posts) just to seem active. These are all traits found on people on my wagon and youre wondering why Im only focused on them?

[DoctorPepper]

Guys, "only scum have an incentive to survive", " OMGUS", "Low activity", " Only defending yourself" are honestly outdated scum tactics in MS meta. If you've been on the site for longer than the two newbie games to become a qualified SE, you would know that these are not bonafide indicators of scumminess. The longer you play here, the more you realize these are Non Alignment indicatives. This is because town have reason to do this as well. OMGUS for crappy voting. Defensiveness because you know this lynch is a mistake. Survivalism because you are well aware that your death is a mislynch. Low activity because people have lives outside the game.

The real reasons to scum read are fabricating reasons to make someone look scummy, misreps and discredits, and faking activity (posting non insightful posts) just to seem active. These are all traits found on people on my wagon and youre wondering why Im only focused on them?

Can you point to more games as where what is "true scumminess" is? I feel like your defending your style and not truly scum hunting.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=66954

Feel free to ISO RadiantCowbells and kraska27.
Note how similar RCs fight against me is similar to how shit the case is here against me.

[DoctorPepper]

VOTE: Random

[DoctorPepper]

DP, why are you still voting Shadow, despite the fact that you are sure that the turret is town?

He's scummy. That said, role spec indicates he is town.

[DoctorPepper]

Guys, "only scum have an incentive to survive", " OMGUS", "Low activity", " Only defending yourself" are honestly outdated scum tactics in MS meta. If you've been on the site for longer than the two newbie games to become a qualified SE, you would know that these are not bonafide indicators of scumminess. The longer you play here, the more you realize these are Non Alignment indicatives. This is because town have reason to do this as well. OMGUS for crappy voting. Defensiveness because you know this lynch is a mistake. Survivalism because you are well aware that your death is a mislynch. Low activity because people have lives outside the game.

The real reasons to scum read are fabricating reasons to make someone look scummy, misreps and discredits, and faking activity (posting non insightful posts) just to seem active. These are all traits found on people on my wagon and youre wondering why Im only focused on them?

Can you point to more games as where what is "true scumminess" is? I feel like your defending your style and not truly scum hunting.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=66954

Feel free to ISO RadiantCowbells and kraska27.
Note how similar RCs fight against me is similar to how shit the case is here against me.

Hell I even made a similar speech like this in this very game and scum didnt even answer, just disregarded me and kept calling me scum

[DoctorPepper]

VOTE: randomidget

L-1

Keep this up.and you may earn the ticket to the city of townsville

[DoctorPepper]

DP and all of his buddies screaming choo choo on my little friend Random here!

How nice of you to drop by with fresh, insightful comments with much evidence to support your case. You totally arent repeating yourself and are totally bringing in new insighta you havent brought before.

[DoctorPepper]

Seriously, half the fucking playerbase has been "lynch DP" without even telling us why. Vedith, engineer, random, shadow, wake just say "LOL DP SCUMZ LYNCHPLOX" without even analyzing literally anything else.

Because you arent even giving anything new to this game.

Fake contribution 101.

[DoctorPepper]

Seriously, half the fucking playerbase has been "lynch DP" without even telling us why. Vedith, engineer, random, shadow, wake just say "LOL DP SCUMZ LYNCHPLOX" without even analyzing literally anything else.

Because you arent even giving anything new to this game.

Fake contribution 101.

This is scum getting angry because they are pinned.

... Im angry because i dont see a convincing case against me and yet somehow im scum. With half the playerbase not even saying why. They pop in every two days, post "dp is scum" to avoid the prod dodge.

If you guys arent scum, you are really fucking lazy.

[DoctorPepper]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=66954

EVERYONE. I implore you to ISO myself and RadiantCowbells this game. This very same situation happens where scum (RC) blatantly misrepresent me, post nothing but "DP is scum and he is flaling/pinned/frustrated because I caught him" and harps on that without giving anything else relevant to game discussion and completely disregarding everythinf I say as a 'scum move' even when I made logical points. Hell, vedith posting is honestly giving me PTSD because this is exactly what happened which lead to my meltdown and force replacement. Scum calling me scun for no fucking reason and not doing anything else but claim im scum flailing. I was an uncc'd bulletproof at that point with a dead JK.

Its happening again. Scum is being flaky and non contributing and youre all not noticing how half the player base just says 'yah DP is scum lynch him' when I literally havent heard a legit case on me.

This has happened two games in a row and you (Genji) question why I know that this is actual scumminess? You have to accuse me of describing me as scum??

Fucking read Day 2 of this game, me and RC only. See how similar this and fucking realize "HEY MAYBE DP IS TOWN AND WE'RE ALL A BUNCH OF DERPS"

[DoctorPepper]

Anyone who doesnt read the game and iso is scumclaiming.

[DoctorPepper]

VOTE: Fox

... Youre so sure Im scum you derailed my wagon?

[DoctorPepper]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=66954

EVERYONE. I implore you to ISO myself and RadiantCowbells this game. This very same situation happens where scum (RC) blatantly misrepresent me, post nothing but "DP is scum and he is flaling/pinned/frustrated because I caught him" and harps on that without giving anything else relevant to game discussion and completely disregarding everythinf I say as a 'scum move' even when I made logical points. Hell, vedith posting is honestly giving me PTSD because this is exactly what happened which lead to my meltdown and force replacement. Scum calling me scun for no fucking reason and not doing anything else but claim im scum flailing. I was an uncc'd bulletproof at that point with a dead JK.

Its happening again. Scum is being flaky and non contributing and youre all not noticing how half the player base just says 'yah DP is scum lynch him' when I literally havent heard a legit case on me.

This has happened two games in a row and you (Genji) question why I know that this is actual scumminess? You have to accuse me of describing me as scum??

Fucking read Day 2 of this game, me and RC only. See how similar this and fucking realize "HEY MAYBE DP IS TOWN AND WE'RE ALL A BUNCH OF DERPS"

Anyone posting before reading this is scum claiming.

Its the exact same situation and you only have to ISO me and RC and you can skip to Day 2. Thats 1 page.

[DoctorPepper]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

If youre really that fucking lazy, i ISO'd the relevant part for you. Read after ISO 90. Its literally 1 page. 1 page isnt going to hurt you.

[DoctorPepper]

If youre really that fucking lazy, i ISO'd the relevant part for you. Read after ISO 90. Its literally 1 page. 1 page isnt going to hurt you.

I'm just lazy when it's scum posting.
When I see town make a post, I'll give it a read, how does that sound? ^^

Its happening again. Im getting discredited and no matter how hard I try to give content, scum has decided I must be the mislynch and will try to discredit me every step of the way.
This has happened two games in a row and im really pissed off as instead of genuinely trying to engage me, im getting "NAH HES OBV SCUM DONT LISTEN TO HIM" and that kind of play is really frustrating. Being called scum is one thing. But being constantly discredited and being told "im obviously scum flailing" is basically saying "we dont care what you have to say, youre scum". Its disrespectful to try and give a crap about this game when all I get is " LYNCH DP FLAILING SCUM LOL"

you wont even try to engage. You wont even try making a case. All youre saying im obviously scum regardlesa of what I say and its happened two games in a row.

Im pissed. I wont bother engaging with you this game.

[DoctorPepper]

The approach go the game is simple for town. Youre open minded about anything because you have 0 information. When youre close minded, youre probably scum or you are fucking terrible town.

[DoctorPepper]

I am legitimately pissed off

[DoctorPepper]

If you can tell me what game breaking contribution you found in any of Vedith, Wake, Engineer, or Shadow's post I would gladly entertain you.

[DoctorPepper]

I hate the fact that this game scum is just really lazy. You guys just pop in every few days, say DP is scum and whe. i try to say something Im met with 'NAH BRO YOURE SCUM LALALA NOT LISTENING'

Even if I was scum I'd be pissed if half the playerbase literally just fucking ignores you and tell you youre scum when youre trying to at least give a crap about this game.

It was one mistake and I've been warned for this already. Don't worry about that. Im trying my best not to get that mad again in a game despite the similarity of the situation

[DoctorPepper]

Finished my skim. Didn't change my read on him. My opinion of him as a player has definitely been affected, though.

Guys, if we aren't lynching RC today I'm throwing the game and self voting tomorrow.

you're so fucking confident in this. Fine.

VOTE: DoctorPepper

good luck in lylo. I'm out.

Don't you dare repeat this. Being antitown out of anger = being a game thrower. It's as bad as cheating.

I think you still have to consider the situation that led to this. Not my proudest moment and one that I prefer be buried. But the fact im using a game where I did this, because the exact same thing is happening here, must at least give you guys an idea of why I think people like Vedith are scum. I've been in this situation in the past and it sucks.

[DoctorPepper]

I hate the fact that this game scum is just really lazy. You guys just pop in every few days, say DP is scum and whe. i try to say something Im met with 'NAH BRO YOURE SCUM LALALA NOT LISTENING'

Even if I was scum I'd be pissed if half the playerbase literally just fucking ignores you and tell you youre scum when youre trying to at least give a crap about this game.

It was one mistake and I've been warned for this already. Don't worry about that. Im trying my best not to get that mad again in a game despite the similarity of the situation

Just stop man. Seriously, you're not helping matters. You aren't gonna get lynched today.

Im trying to get my wagon to actually play the damn game because this isnt fun, its frustrating. Imagine this happening to you in two consecutive games.

[DoctorPepper]

I think you still have to consider the situation that led to this. Not my proudest moment and one that I prefer be buried. But the fact im using a game where I did this, because the exact same thing is happening here, must at least give you guys an idea of why I think people like Vedith are scum. I've been in this situation in the past and it sucks.

Let's lynch Vedith then.

Tomorrow, we have no time today.

[DoctorPepper]

Its not about being lynchbait. Its about not being listened to and people insisting youre scum while discrediting you every step of the way.

[DoctorPepper]

I hate the fact that this game scum is just really lazy. You guys just pop in every few days, say DP is scum and whe. i try to say something Im met with 'NAH BRO YOURE SCUM LALALA NOT LISTENING'

Even if I was scum I'd be pissed if half the playerbase literally just fucking ignores you and tell you youre scum when youre trying to at least give a crap about this game.

It was one mistake and I've been warned for this already. Don't worry about that. Im trying my best not to get that mad again in a game despite the similarity of the situation

Just stop man. Seriously, you're not helping matters. You aren't gonna get lynched today.

Im trying to get my wagon to actually play the damn game because this isnt fun, its frustrating. Imagine this happening to you in two consecutive games.

If it happened to me in two consecutive games, I would figure out why I am such easy lynch bait...

And then I would fix it.

Heck I wasnt even being lynchbait in Day 2. I question scum and called him out and was met with insults and discredits for the whole day.

Im not pissed about being scum read. Im pissed because people who scum read me dont even comment on anything else within the game and juat give non sequiturs claiming im scum. Arrive, Call DP scum, Leave. Im tired of being discredited and being told that they wont even argue because theyre soooo sure im scum and encourage town to do the same. Its disrespectful as hell

[DoctorPepper]

Its not about being lynchbait. Its about not being listened to and people insisting youre scum while discrediting you every step of the way.

Okay, you're right.
Why is Random scum? In your opinion, of course.

Oh now you engage me.
Fine I'll bite.

He misrepped my case on Shadow as fake making up reasons to call someone scum and I covered that pretty extensively on why I think that was scummy.

But okay, keep faking contribution.

[DoctorPepper]

Its not about being lynchbait. Its about not being listened to and people insisting youre scum while discrediting you every step of the way.

It really is all about being lynch bait, though.

Unfortunately, during the game really isn't the appropriate time for this discussion, but I'd be happy to talk to you about it afterwards.

I dont care about being lynched or properly scum read if I deserve it. Its this im pissed off about.

[DoctorPepper]

Tell me if you found anything insightful or anything that remotely helps town from this ISO all I see is fluff.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

[DoctorPepper]

As with random midget, same case with Vedith. Read through the ISO for today and you will find
1. Random is obviously town
2. DP is obviously scum (but I can vote Fox or Serra)
3. Absolutely no relevant content.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8222354

[DoctorPepper]

He misrepped my case on Shadow as fake making up reasons to call someone scum and I covered that pretty extensively on why I think that was scummy.

Anything else?

But okay, keep faking contribution.

And you wonder why people ignore you?

You have done no actual scumhunting all game, sheeped various reads and posted 3 prod dodges. You really dont think youre faking content?

[DoctorPepper]

"You dont want to discuss it"

I accuse you of faking content because you've done nothing of note this game and havent given any relevant content.

Tho your line about knowing with absolute certainty that random is flipping town. Why is that

[DoctorPepper]

Youre speaking with absolute certainty about everything despite not doing any noticeable scumhunting to defend your point.

[DoctorPepper]

Im going with faking a scum read on me and not actually doing any effort with hunting scum this game. Posts are fake and are there to look active.

Also the main reason is he's a more possible wagon than the Engineer, who gives even less content, is basically postong prod dodges and didnt even bother correcting the person who thought they owned the turret.

[DoctorPepper]

Replace Out

I dont even know why I bother playing mafia. I clearly can't handle this. Goodluck town.

[DoctorPepper]

Replace Out

I dont even know why I bother playing mafia. I clearly can't handle this. Goodluck town.

Awww come on, don't be like that, just vote Fox with us!

I dont know why I even came back to this site. If I cant deal with toxic players like you or RC, i clearly cant play like this. I dont have thick enough skin to play mafia apparently and I dont need the extra stress in my life.

Theres a reason why I left the site years ago and I don't know why I thought it was a good idea to come back.

Anyway goodluck town.

...
This changes everything.

Unreplace out

[DoctorPepper]

Are you telling me Vedith is lying scum and im falling for this crap all over again?

[DoctorPepper]

I already claimed im zarya.

Im willing to go fox or genji

[DoctorPepper]

VOTE: Genji