Mini 1819: League of Legends: Clash of Fates (Endgame)
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What do people think of this? Just trying to think about what this means is making feel stupid. I once played in a community which used the role 'Summoner' which made an NPC whose continued existence usually caused all kinds of crap to happen (e.g. everyone gets roleblocked on even nights). The only champion which could 'summon' a major NPC would be Mordekaiser, but voting to give an NPC a level would be all kinds of stupid...In post 1, RadiantCowbells wrote:Non-champions will be ineligible to receive Farm or to gain experience. They will therefore be unable to be selected for night scenes.
So, since I don't think this is what it means is it possible someone chose Baron Nashor or Vilemaw etc?-
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this game is getting too realistic for meIn post 21, hiplop wrote:
MUNDO THINK YOUR BAD PLAY IS A POST RESTRICTIONIn post 17, Lycanfire wrote:well, picking mundo is like picking a post restriction....
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Sona song seems fake, so does Mundo. I think HOHO is roleplaying Tryndamere (undying rage) which doesn't make sense as a post restriction tbh. Yume is doing the same thing by randomly interrogating people about being tibbers. Imo, you're all screwing around and someone should confirm that they are so we can move on.
Due to the post restriction faking Yume is claiming probably our most important role. I think claims are entirely pointless without intent to lynch as the host said alignments were random.
Unless of course you're trying to get the farm vote, I suppose.
Part of the day should be about finding the most trusted townie and giving them the farm vote as well as protection, but I don't trust Yume due to above.-
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You're the only one I'm sure is faking as you started asking about who is a bear halfway through day. Everyone else doing it is at least doing it with purpose, even if there are failures in consistency. I don't particularly care if people want to roleplay their roles... Unless I think it's an attempt to get the farm vote.In post 296, Yume wrote:I am not faking it, though.-
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I pulled something in my back on monday and between work and trying to live life like I'm not in pain I've had little time for mafia and much more time for sleep.
Still catching up but I hate that Yume
1) pretended to have a post restriction, reinforced that it was a post restriction when questioned and given a way out of it, then claims different motive that she never had to hide
2) her lynch me attitude is lazy, does nothing to offer info upon flip. normally scum are survivalist, but that doesn't mean town role over and die. in their last moments, they should be making moves that push a town win rather than spite everyone, and rewarding the likely scum on their wagon with a free mislynch. so if neither attitude fits with archetypal behavior, i have to question whether scum or town would get more out of this.
... unless town!Yume really thinks scum would hammer here? we have farm vote to do. anyone dumb enough to hammer at this stage would have been caught easily later if this were some gambit. so if it's townplay, it's just bad.
There's posts by others that I hate but I want to a full read through. Super sloppy post I'm sorry.-
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oh boy S++++++ im going to sleepIn post 524, Lycanfire wrote:but that doesn't mean town role over and die-
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I'm going to reveal a lot about my playstyle here: I believe games are solvable with enough effort put in. I make detailed notes about the game and I can't do this on my phone while resting my back. I have to be on my PC. Catching up for you is different than catching up for me. This type of play is effective when I only need to analyze 2-3 pages, but when my notes had been 19 pages behind it's a combination of gif spam and the fact I fell asleep the moment I came home from work. It takes time. 2 hours min assuming I'm processing a post every 15 seconds. Now add in the fact that this is tedious, I'm on a computer with multiple tabs, the fact that I need to drink, eat, and not yelp in pain in my shitty wooden chair, this takes much longer. More than I'm willing to do in a single day.In post 544, Maestro wrote:Jester is making it look like Yume will already be lynched and is already thinking about who to go after next and I VERY MUCH do not like it. Summer is kinda just still there. Lycan, if I can finish a long catch up post while being emotional (and drunk) at 2 AM, then you can too dude. Fuckin' A.
If I disappoint you, I'm sorry.
town { jester, maestro, shaziro }
lean town { hiplop, KTS, hoho, firebringer, random }
null { LLD, summer }
lean scum { }
scum { vedith, yume }
(just to confirm KTS is dullagamur's slot right?)
Maestro/Jester are the most town hands down. Maestro is on the right side of the Yume problem IMO. Jester has great interactions and has managed to make a large volume of posts without anything egregiously scummy sticking out. His reads are weird, but he similarly takes a bat to other that have weird reads, like to Shaziro for instance when Shaziro decided to read Yume wrong. Meanwhile Shaziro has been demonstrating that they want to solve problems in the game. I really liked his pressure on Random, ya'll nuts. Maestro is on the right side of the Yume dilemma... Shaziro isn't, which is the only problem I have with him. Yume flipping scum looks great on Maestro as the wagon was hoho-hiplop-ldd. LLD didn't get a say in it, and I think Hoho's just really eager to get votes down. Maestro was the main push vote IMO.
The next tier I'm not sold on. Hiplop was pretty nullish until #659. This looks like a great post. Even when I had him as null he seemed close to LT. KTS has been making aggressive posts. I like those. I like Hoho because he's been open about his role. I didn't notice it at first, but his vote count font changes from size 100 to a maximum of 140 for each stack. His posting in general seems town. I think one of jester/firebringer is town for sure because the interactions aren't S+S. #602 looks good from Firebringer. I like the pressure on SIW even if I don't think she's superscum here.
Random is hanging in there as my weakest townread. I think his scumplay here would be shitplay. If Thresh CCed I would have been on board to lynch Random because if Thresh is town, they're a doctor or jailkeeper role. No matter what happens in this scenario we wouldn't ever lynch the doctor without at least 2 scum claiming (e.g. Random + scum CCing doctor). Either 1:2 or 1:1 via NK. Even if 1:1 for a doctor is typically ok for scum, I wouldn't exactly hate this. But since he's begging for farm so badly I'm not about to call him obvtown as there's a chance that Thresh is 100% a red herring.
LLD is voluntarily adopting a post restriction. She helps at times, others she does not. I don't think her posts are scummy, but how she is posting isn't helping us as much as she could. Summer's pretty complicated. Not from lack of being able to analysis of her posts, but because I feel conflicted and have to put her in the middle. There's more on her at the end of my post.
Yume's a confirmed liar (#296) I also hate her posts 72, 80, 234, 497. Vedith is more complicated, but I don't think it's odd to peg him on a scumteam with Yume despite what happened earlier in day. Yume voted Vedith, but she only did it because she tried to buddy Shaziro 8 posts afterwards.
Vedith was needlessly defensive in #70...#137. Thought #100 was low effort because he was responding to a shitpost. #336 makes no sense. If he's someone like Jarvan, who dunks dragons and vomits rainbows it has nothing to do with whether alignments are random or not, so why say it? I'm sure alignments are random going by my own role PM. #523 seems like a lame post... #600 seems like a continuation of how he was building a scumteam from firebringer's posts... Like an elaborate reaction test... Except it all seemed weak. #600 is the worst of it because he's joking about having daytalk. Creating noise isn't town. I'd give him a pass if he was doing anything remotely townie. #632 "IF you [Shaziro] think I am scum, then surely Fire should be town fo sho?" seems disingenuous because despite supposedly being at odds, the pressure between Vedith and Firebringer has never been real despite having high interactions with one another. It easily reads S+T or S+S to me. The premise is really silly, which makes it seem more like a suggestion than a question of reads. Manipulation like this is scum.
Vedith's interactions are pretty bad. When doing counts I felt like after he saw firebringer and jester talking a lot together, he immediately tried getting in with jester.
As for where SIW stands, I'm not sure. #454 was a suspicious post. My immediate thought was that random's claim was scummy because it could intend to draw out the doc, and it was only after I rationalized it as being an ok trade did I think he sat a bit better. Meanwhile, he obviously wanted the farmvote! (he so much as said that he leveled up well and asked for it) I hated that, and it would be interpreted that he had two potential scum motives for his claim. #560 did seem good to me. Some people don't like her reads. I don't agree with them either, but plenty of people are scumreading Shaziro for instance. It looks like she hates Yume, while her reads are in a position to match Vedith's if she were to move firebringer from null to scum. I don't think her behavior is scummy, but because of #454 I'm going to be interested in her with a Yume scumflip despite #560. I'm nulling her until I see more/post flip.
VOTE: Vedith
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I was taking this from my notes when explaining my read on him but never removed that part of the note when I made note that Maestro said they picked Thresh but didn't receive it. Thresh is in the game unless Random and Maestro are scum. There's a chance that Thresh is still a red herring and #550 should be considered if Random were to ever flip scum.But since he's begging for farm so badly I'm not about to call him obvtown as there's a chance that Thresh is 100% a red herring.-
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To flip you onto Vedith? I'm ok with a Yume lynch too, but I wanted to get my suspicions of Vedith onto the board and see where day would go from there.In post 728, HOHOHAHA wrote:
Words from lycan, maybeIn post 725, HOHOHAHA wrote:I'm open to hear it and be convinced
I'm not really seeing where we are going in 3 days now-nor is there much interest in Vedith... I'm not voting Shaziro today and the votes on the board means he could be elim if we make the lynchpool Yume, Hiplop and SIW.-
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who would vedith's partners be?In post 758, The_Jester wrote:Vedith didn't act like his town self as I know it but his lynch is definitely out of question today, with deadline so soon and no replacement on the horizon.
his posts are better than mostIn post 765, The_Jester wrote:
Do you think that's alignment indicative? Cause I assure you he can play like that as both sides.In post 713, Lycanfire wrote: KTS has been making aggressive posts. I like those.
What are your thoughts on him not providing any real content apart from unjustified (at that time) vote on SIW and calling out rando without any follow-up?
his pressure on SIW is good; random seemed ok, i won't begin to understand why he stopped. it'd be dumb if he kept going imo.
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First off, jester's #789 post is completely flaccid. If your scumreads and townreads influence one another your scumreads influence your other scumreads. A post like that tells me he's ok with Vedith being lynched but not ok with calling any scumpartners of his, because he would probably have to say Yume, and he claims Yume is town because meta or some shit like that which is worth several times less than associativesin this game.
Next, the Yume wagon is the cleanest one on the board, and hiplop's on it. I wouldn't be surprised if there's two scum on him right now.
VOTE: SIW
I was holding back when i was putting her in null. I think she looks good with Yume. She's holding a chainsaw for hiplop for when he flips town. If she really hates Yume why is she on Shaziro? That's the worst wagon because random's only on it because he can't comprehend that Shaziro had every reason to grill him for potentially asking for doc CC while asking for farm votes if not CCed.
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then why do you want to lynch firebringer/dwlee if yume is scum?
pretty believable. i only dropped the idea when i thought jester was acting weird about yume/vedith. turns out i misread his post, which does a lot for my paranoia.In post 938, Shaziro wrote:Only way I could see that being the case, tbh, is if she was scum with Vedith.
VOTE: Yume
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LOOK AT ME I'M SCUMHUNTINGIn post 1054, Yume wrote:
And you failed the test. 2nd scum found.In post 1047, Lycanfire wrote:Shaziro: vengeful isn't a role easily given to town because it punishes the mafia for successfully mislynching. Vengeful bomb is all kinds of powerful.
Not to mention, she claims tohave RB+Vengeful+Bomb at level 1. She's overloaded with power or lying. She's confirmed scum.-
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You've called me an idiot and said "fuck you". I'm not phased. I say fuck "your argument" and you want out?
I never cared about your meta no matter who was bringing it up. firebringer(?), shaziro, yourself. I did not care even once. If this was your last sword for your survival, go fall on it. You have nothing else.-
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Scumreading me for a post I retracted is really lazy unless you think it's some elaborate scumslip where I wanted to randomly doubtcast my strongest townread. You missed other intricacies like how at the same time, I made other errors like saying hiplop was on your slot and that's when I realized the Yume wagon was at one vote (myself) everyone else on firebringer and Shaziro, Shaziro on SIW and Maestro holding his vote. At this moment I was paranoid at how fast the votes were flying, esp. in two directions I didn't like them in and voted SIW due to suspicions and the fact I thought Shaziro and I made a good town bloc that could attract scum-if SIW were town. Votes didn't go anywhere, and there was 13(?) hours on the clock. I said I wasn't voting Shaziro and that there were many before Dwlee (firebringer) I would lynch and that's when my vote once again went on your slot. That should answer your confusion over which wagons I thought were bad.
If you scumread SIW you basically have to townread Shaziro. Interesting how you scumlean me when I resisted wagons on both your townleans. Unlike you I don't get the benefit of knowing who is innocent, so lashing out at me for voting you instead of Shaziro and Dwlee is confusing at best and an obvious scumslip at worst.
She was faking a post restriction like everyone else with the random olalalala posts. I gave her an opportunity to admit it's fake, she said it wasn't and became a liar. Nobody should doubt that she intended to claim Annie from early on. Scum have motive for trying to claim so early is obvious: to get the farm vote. That's the real problem.Side note at the beginning when i state i like Yume, she breadcrumbing.
Speaking of farm vote, you can give it to me but I'm equally happy with it on jester
Vote: jester
tonight i make you awesome. :^^^^^)In post 1125, The_Jester wrote:Lycan, can you explain a little bit what that connection between us means? I hoped we'd get a PT or something but it doesn't seem so.-
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sameIn post 1300, hiplop wrote:I think jester is scum-
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i definitely think a poisoner is a mafia role. everyone has to the potential to fuck over scum with ults and we have two ways to gain levels. an alt night kill helps to make more bodies. i really don't believe there's third parties at play either unless someone asked to be baron nashor. i mean i GUESS baron could spit acid at people? but they would need more than a flavor alt kill @ level 1 to have a chance to do anything in this set up. the only question is whether hiplop is telling the truth or not.
i'm not really so sure. the people told they were poisoned sure seem pissed off and it seems like a great coincidence that our fakeclaimed mundo is actually singed, [totally not scum] and there must be a teemo or cassiopeia in the set up.
gonna have to read more but i think "i'm singed " fruit vendor role is probably the funniest claim ever.
just to confirm: people targetted hiplop and were told they were poisoned meanwhile they would have also had to have been targetted by a teemo or cassiopeia, right?
you aren't a vengeful bomb and should have been shot. or we can try this from another angle: you don't have all these abilities at level 1 unless you're scum and need more than one ability at level 1 to deal with an army of townies that can make night phase look like URF. ignoring the whole part where scum don't have to tell the truth and all of this can be bullshit.In post 1364, Basic wrote:Concerned about Lycanfire claiming to have read but by the same stroke asking why was I alive today. I thought it was obvious. Ive stated im a rbing bomb 3times now
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Yeah, ok. I'll bite. I thinking there was a chance I did this without being informed I could do this, but I missed how Maestro did post at the start of day, and, oddly enough is claiming to be post restricted in the middle of day.
I'm Kalista, and no, I don't have a black mist ability. Black mist isn't mentioned in my role PM. I was thinking it was pretty obvious that I was Kalista from "my role PM makes me think alignments are random" (regarding Vedith on randomidget/thresh) post. When I was trying to get jester to accept the black spear I did claim a support role, but I posted a pic of Kyuubei for a reason. I wanted him to 1) accept it 2) not have it go to shaziro if possible 3) not get one of us NKed over it.
Every time I've seen someone silenced in mafia they were told they would be modkilled if they did what Maestro is doing... Which is talking with votes. Silencer is a shit role because it takes someone out of the game, and I think RC is experienced enough to know that.
Feel free to cash in a daykill on me. It's a pretty good one for one for mafia I guess.
VOTE: Maestro
vote: the_jester
If you want to stop screwing around and claim, that would be great.-
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