oh the reviewer team! They really need to make a hydra its weird I wasn't with them in this one.
~Frozen
Is he Ascetic or does he just return the power?In post 31, Dunnstral wrote:I mean, I feel like me claiming right away made sense.In post 30, Mega Frozen wrote:Are we seriously Day 1 massclaiming
Ironstove claiming is good too I think because then we don't waste stuff on them like investigatives
even if Gamma doesn't sign his posts I will as thats how people like it. This is not an alt. Its a hydraIn post 34, ironstove wrote:Gamma what is the point of being on a hydra if you're gonna sign your posts???
clarifying the second line is about dark magicIn post 52, Mega Frozen wrote:scums must have regular spells which they must pass or the game is breakable .
I wouldn't assume its just factional kill though. It might be more.
why our votes are a spell? will we loose them by targetting people at night? I'm a little confused here.
#Frozen
I'm going to assume there won't be any restriction on scums that make the game breakable. #The_Respect_I_Have_For_ModsIn post 59, BTD6_maker wrote:If something like a Cop or a Doc or other role were to land in scum's hands, couldn't they just pass it back and forth between themselves every night, effectively taking out a TPR? If scum cannot target scum then we can break the game by analysing all spell transfers to rule out partners so this is probably possible.
Already posted twiceIn post 66, Dunnstral wrote:Waiting for gamma emerald to start posting before I can vote them
@iron plz answer thisIn post 46, Dunnstral wrote:WaitIn post 28, ironstove wrote:I have spell-reflect, it lets me fire back the first spell that is cast on me. So CURSE YOU!
How does this work? Wouldn't it give whoever targets you the spell to reflect back other spells in exchange for what they used?
Probably shouldn't have claimed
But Gamma already posted. whats holding you back?In post 66, Dunnstral wrote:Waiting for gamma emerald to start posting before I can vote them
How said Dunn is conftown?In post 73, ironstove wrote:How do we know who is town and who is mafia? Like how does Dunnstral claiming she has a curse in her book confirm her as town? Is it because mafia don't have spells?
Why is your avi so cute?In post 75, Nosferatu wrote:just got my new computer in time for this game lets gogogogogo
why should we claim our spells? what is the benefit?In post 77, ironstove wrote:Well people are saying we shouldn't claim our spells, I'm not understanding why not?
You read it vise versa or your pretending that it was vise versa
do you mean iron?In post 123, Sondam wrote:CORRECTION: i meant Ira is town. NOT Gamma.In post 107, Sondam wrote:Ah, okay. Dunn seems to have a few votes on him already. But he scum claimed in that post I quoted.
Gamma is town. This is fairly easy already.
~G
He was the guy who hacked the siteIn post 132, Sondam wrote:WHY IS IRA BANNED 'In post 130, Mega Frozen wrote:do you mean iron?In post 123, Sondam wrote:CORRECTION: i meant Ira is town. NOT Gamma.In post 107, Sondam wrote:Ah, okay. Dunn seems to have a few votes on him already. But he scum claimed in that post I quoted.
Gamma is town. This is fairly easy already.
~G
ira got banned.
~GE
~G
NPBR is one of my favorites I've played. It was offsite and was a 48 player large theme based on Mother 3 with multiball. I was a scum tracker and while I had fun playing my time was short, as 3 days after I replaced in I got Day-Desperado'd, thanks to me not keeping my mouth shut.In post 135, Prism wrote:1) What's your favorite game of mafia? What happened?
I'd say scum because I have a tendency to get townread for dumb shit as town.2) Do you feel like you get lynched more as town or scum? What do you think the typical reasoning is?
I like to play with the information gap.3) Describe your mindset when playing scum. Eg. Is your main focus to towntell, to set up mislynches, to set up your partners, to bruteforce a win yourself?
What is the thing you expect from me?In post 109, BATORU wrote:Bleh you misunderstand. I said anti-town, not scum-motivated. iron not claiming could have turned a scum kill back on them if we assume their factional kill is a spell (which I do because even our votes are spells). He's null to me which is why I said I dislike Frozen's vote on him.That and the fact she's not doing as much as I expect from her.
why is that though? arguably yeah both claims are NAI. Their still slots in game. whats your impression on the way their playing?In post 135, Prism wrote:I don't think either Dunn or Iron's claims are particularly town. They're a balance factor that make sense as starting spells for either alignment, and there are real incentives to immediately claim them as mafia. Of all the players who have posted so far, I like, in a purely mafia-related sense, Sondam and BTD6. The person I like the least is Wisdom so
How is the first 5 pages unreadable?In post 135, Prism wrote:Note to the hydras: The more you post, and the less immediately pertinent it is, the less likely I (and I assume others) are to read them. Consequently, any good points you may make will be lost. Be judicious. I don't want to be snarky but I already find these first 5 pages borderline unreadable and I don't know if I can take 20-100 more pages of it without dayvigging someone.
I mean "What they claimed" are arguably NAI. But the fact they claimed it is a part of their playing and definitely isn't.In post 177, Mega Frozen wrote:arguably yeah both claims are NAI.
I can't understand this. what about me trying to sort Iron and see what others have to say about it is the thing you find scummy?In post 167, BATORU wrote:@FA Wasn't scum indicative in your case to want annoying town dead, which is what I assume Tama found scummy about your opening.
what the hell is this. Please move on from RVS.In post 175, drealmerz7 wrote:drealmerz7 stands apart from the group that wish to become evokers gathered in the great chamber. He watches them all, studies each of them carefully, and takes it all in. He hears them talk of spells and the trial that is upon them as if they were adolescents organizing a game of kekbal.
Evil is here, there is no question. We are served with a task and we must begin it immediately. Distractions only allow the enemy to grow it's advantage. And there is no doubt, they are at the advantage. Only the most skilled will survive, that is apparent, he just hopes that the strength of the uncorrupted will prevail over the influences of darkness.
Unobserved and in one flowing yet subtle gesture, he focuses his powers inward and then casts them outward. No words are spoken, but the impact is felt by the entire group.
VOTE: BTD6_Maker
1) It was cyberpunk. I have no idea when it happened but it was when I got banned - and I couldn't finish the game which is making a void empty thingi in my heart.In post 135, Prism wrote:1) What's your favorite game of mafia? What happened?
2) Do you feel like you get lynched more as town or scum? What do you think the typical reasoning is?
3) Describe your mindset when playing scum. Eg. Is your main focus to towntell, to set up mislynches, to set up your partners, to bruteforce a win yourself?
yeahIn post 184, Prism wrote:I don't have X-Ray meta vision. My impression is that the way they've played thus far is null. Is this the objective case? No. Is this the subjective case? Certainly.
The aim of my questions are all to achive my goal to sort you. How is that going to work with a seemingly useless question like this is "that I'm comparing your tone and stances and try to detect anomalies and contradictions" thats how I scumhuantIn post 184, Prism wrote:This is pretty clearly to do with my own ideas of what good posting looks like (very subjective). What's the aim of this question? Can you give me an example of either a scummy answer or town answer?
who asked for any kinds of special treatment? I'm signing for whoever wants my posts to be signed. Where is this argument suddenly coming from?In post 189, drealmerz7 wrote:like, wtf, your avatar is your signature, that is how I'm identify and sort you in my brain - no special treatment
ok, Thanks for clarification. and I promise to never spam but I won't drop my activity or post rate in any manner. Sondom hydra has MariaR I guess? Its not spamming. she is just playing around to get the feel I suppose. I never saw he scum but her town does that so thats not alarming. BATORU hydra members need to talk privatly a bit I guess. I Think I'm confusing their stands on stuff as well.In post 190, Prism wrote:I never said it was. My statement was actually in response to outed townreads. Specifically, the one from Batoru:In post 185, Mega Frozen wrote:But why is pushing them to see what they will do afterward to sort them is an invalid tactic to you?In post 91, BATORU wrote:I dunnot think dunn is scum this game
partly just for his claim, partly on tone
-tamaThanks for being considerate if this is the case. I laid a more blanket "be judicious" statement on purpose, but if you're looking for something specifically I can give it. One is the constant forgetfulness of Batoru which has resulted in a clogged thread (Total they've had 36 posts). Another is the spam of Sondam. They had every post from #98 to #108 except for #101 & #104. From #98-#139 they had 22 posts out of 41. While I recognize the fun in doing so, as well as the fact it is not inherently bad play, it's not as fun for me to work around and read through.In post 186, Mega Frozen wrote:But in this particular case I wanted to know what about hydra posts are bothering you to be more gentle and kind and try to avoid it.
Again, I want to emphasize that I recognize that Batoru's extra posts are simple accidents and that Sondam's aren't malicious/inherently bad play, but the above are more specific examples of why I asked to be more judicious when posting.
I might have multiple personalities and I might support two exactly opposite line of thinking to see which one is more valid. Deal with it - or notIn post 194, drealmerz7 wrote:drealmerz7's voice emanates through those who care to listen's ears, but still, he does not speak...
I wouldn't say it's an argument, just a preferred position. I think now is not the time to get into game theory unless the group wants to have a big discussion about it right now, it'll just be distraction, though. As long as it is understood that I will not be parsing discrepancies between brains. If there is an issue, your slot (any hydra slot) will have to account for it to me as an individual entity, "we disagree" will be viewed as a dichotomous position held at a single point in time, and I consider it grounds for reading as scum and for placing my vote - reason: blatant contradiction of position. My slot can't think ____ is simultaneously scum and town and get away with it, neither can your slot. <--That sort of special treatment.
she is paying attention to game from my pov.In post 228, Fire Assassin wrote:I think Not Chara is town.
I would expect them to be paying attention to the game more closely as scum and see where my vote is, and the questioning of my own reads when I have weak reasoning seems townie.
ehh.In post 231, Fire Assassin wrote:Not Chara said I was voting you.In post 230, Mega Frozen wrote:You stated a scum read on me but you refused to talk about it atm which is exactly what she doesn't like about you. Hows that related to the fact your voting me or not?
Why is sondam townIn post 249, Fire Assassin wrote:Town: Not Chara, Sondam
Lean Town: BATORU
Null: Anyone Not Mentioned
Lean Scum: Nosferatu, Pisskop, Mega Frozen
I'm trying to get into your head.In post 250, Fire Assassin wrote:Because I am getting serious and I am formal.In post 247, Mega Frozen wrote:Why are you talking with such a serious and formal tone with me Fire?
Why are you talking with such a serious and formal tone with me Fire?
I don't understand the purpose of this?
Are you trying to see why I am acting differently than normal?
no ones concern is so deep so early. thats normal. what about that makes him probably town?In post 255, Not Chara wrote:it isn't just me, it's also the way he explained his reads on you two. i don't take issue with having weaker reads at this stage, and the way he tied that into his read on me doesn't feel like scum. i often see what appear to be misunderstandings as town, and point them out, so i liked that Fire was acknowledging misunderstandings as a reason for conflict, instead of just scummy behaviour.
and my concerns weren't as deep as i thought, i realized.
A tone change or formallity makes it like your cold and you don't enjoy the current interaction. From a social point of view it hints to the other person to drop the converstaion and if it was anyone else I guess they would without thinking about this.In post 258, Fire Assassin wrote:Do you mean like distancing scum do from teammates or just not interacting?
I am guessing the first since I am interacting with you.
I don't see why a tone or formality would be a issue with you beyond you never playing with this style of me.
Everything is alignment indicative and important. Their just in different degrees of importance. I might use anything to make people talk - and to compare that with their previous arguments to test the validity and agenda.In post 259, Not Chara wrote:pedit: because him acting formal is either alignment indicative and important, or not alignment indicative and unimportant. because you asked, i figured you thought it might be alignment indicative. and if you knew his scumgame, you would know if the formality was something to be wary of, or not.
In another note : Is there any way (I mean beside some night actions and stuff- by actual scumhunting) to learn someone else role pm?In post 264, Prism wrote:I can ask questions all day. That fact alone will never tell you what my role PM says. The fact that you do the same isn't going to tell me anything about yours. The content of those questions, on the other hand, are very valuable.
yeah I guess I misunderstood.In post 270, Prism wrote:You're taking this as an attack on your playstyle, which itis not.It is questioning why you, as someone who is trying to "get into the minds of others" and asking questions to "draw it out" did not take note of what my post said. Your account of my post was that I was discouraging questioning Dunn/iron, and would be very scummy indeed if it were true. Yet, it never happened. In truth I did the opposite. This seems contradictory to me. Are you really trying to get into my mind if you didn't even try to understand my statement to begin with, or are you just looking for a reason to push a lynch?
see that was what you wroteIn post 135, Prism wrote:I don't think either Dunn or Iron's claims are particularly town. They're a balance factor that make sense as starting spells for either alignment, and there are real incentives to immediately claim them as mafia. Of all the players who have posted so far, I like, in a purely mafia-related sense, Sondam and BTD6. The person I like the least is Wisdom so
You answered:In post 177, Mega Frozen wrote:why is that though? arguably yeah both claims are NAI. Their still slots in game. whats your impression on the way their playing?
BATORU voted me before hand for not trying as much as I should or something - which implied he beleives me pushing Iron is not ok. Under impression people are thinking about me like that and are clearing Iron and Dunn for spell claiming (some expressed this multiple times) I mistakingly assumed your one of those people (cuase I had in mind you didn't vote in them after calling their spell thingi NAI - which is accurate detail ) and you called them null. so I asked this to make sure about your stance :In post 184, Prism wrote:I don't have X-Ray meta vision. My impression is that the way they've played thus far is null. Is this the objective case? No. Is this the subjective case? Certainly.
which was based on wrong assumptions.In post 185, Mega Frozen wrote:yeahIn post 184, Prism wrote:I don't have X-Ray meta vision. My impression is that the way they've played thus far is null. Is this the objective case? No. Is this the subjective case? Certainly.
But why is pushing them to see what they will do afterward to sort them is an invalid tactic to you?
#Frozen
Oh and regarding thisIn post 269, Prism wrote:You can insult my argument all you want, but as I said, you can't judge it accurately before you have it explained to you. If no one explained the Theory of Relativity to you, would it be pure shit as well?
Trying to understand someone else's argument while calling it pure shit-without ever hearing it-is not trying to understand someone's argument. It's assuming they're wrong from the start.
that means you scumread me?In post 276, pisskop wrote:i dont really know the vc, but i heard
fire
Elsa
sondam
non of which id say were wasted wagons atm
I missed this during intrections.In post 259, Not Chara wrote:can you give me reads on Sondam and Dunnstral?
What is this going to even mean? I translated this to "Cause its day 1 I will park my vote on Frozen! It seems there is enough potential to lynch her and thats enough for day 1"In post 295, BTD6_maker wrote:This game has had a lot of content in one day.
Anyway, I have been reading (mainly skimming). I currently have a very weak scumread on Mega Frozen and since it is still early Day 1 I do not have anything much stronger than that. I also have a very weak Townread on Fire.
VOTE: Mega Frozen