Mini 1853: Trial of the Evoker [Game Over]

[Dunnstral]

@Dunn why did you choose pisskop?

For the curse? Scummy.

[Dunnstral]

Alright so I'm getting counter claimed

I was waiting a bit before I revealed the info

But I think this is kind of obvious in that if I were scum nos wouldn't have to have said anythign (as opposed to me being town, nosferatu getting caught out, he had to try to cc me quick... which I wasn't expecting to be honest)

[Dunnstral]

What are odds of both you having scry and visiting same person?

I didn't see anybody but nos visit, and the target died

[Dunnstral]

There would be 2 copies of the spell

[Dunnstral]

I gave them the spell when i cast it on them, and they died with it

We lost the spell but caught scum

[Dunnstral]

Fire's scum.

[Dunnstral]

Like mechanically it should be obvious that I'm town and nos is scum.

[Dunnstral]

Like mechanically it should be obvious that I'm town and nos is scum.

Why mechanically?

~Ruko

Like mechanically it should be obvious that I'm town and nos is scum.

No, I think you saw that beeboy had the spell "scry" on him.
Knew he was watched.

Decided premptively claim that you had watched the person and knew who targetted them, waiting to be CCed then say "Yeah, nos targetted him".

Thats what looks like what happened.
You would vote him outright if anything else.
I see no purpose in waiting beyond finding out who the person your ccing.

Imagine that I'm scum and nos is a townie who scry'd me to the kill

I come out and say I used scry


And then what? I start prod dodging? That's a scum claim

If I were nos and nos were town, he wouldn't have cc'd me for a 1v1 - because I've already claimed scum

But he's not town, and so he had to cc me as fast as possible

[Dunnstral]

He was soft pushing him most of the day, and defending pushes by him.

LOL huge misrep

Hold on I'll get them

[Dunnstral]

Of all the players who have posted so far, I like, in a purely mafia-related sense, Sondam and BTD6.

DISAGREE with them being town

Especially btd6 it's too early to read them


Right now I'm townreading Batoru, Mega Frozen, and You

Some RQS if you'd like, I'm not going to hound you if you don't:

1) What's your favorite game of mafia? What happened?

2) Do you feel like you get lynched more as town or scum? What do you think the typical reasoning is?

3) Describe your mindset when playing scum. Eg. Is your main focus to towntell, to set up mislynches, to set up your partners, to bruteforce a win yourself?

1) Don't really have one

2) Definitely get lynched more as town. Though I feel like I barely get lynched in general and when I do it's for dumb reasons. I always seem to be night killed as scum in multiball, though

3) The towntell part just comes naturally for me. I think I like to set up associations that aren't necessarily true that others would look at to help my allies if I should perish

Prism trying to fit in. confirmed scum

~G

I hard townread Prism

Usually my reads are on point

Why do you think Mega Frozen is scum?

I questioned the Frozen read as townreads from others came in affirming that this is just how Frozen plays

Well it is how she plays

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... B%5D=26900

copy paste this in, she was town here and I was scum

In #350 they said they thought this game matched Frozen's town meta, but the game he links in #459 has Frozen playing entirely differently.

I disagree that they are different. I say they're similar.

The townread on me made no sense. The explanation behind his votes is nonexistent and he's been almost entirely on the defensive, either directly or indirectly through posts that have no point other than to say something for the sake of it.

I've been pushing all game, what are you talking about?

I was on the defensive when Gamma was rolefishing and saying I slipped over something dumb

Posts like #1131 and #1180 don't feel legitimate whatsoever.

How so?

How do you interpret those as scummy/the basis of your push here

Here's my early game townread

Never scumread gamma on his own either, though I disagreed with him I thought him likely town

[Dunnstral]

I softed having an additional power multiple times.

[Dunnstral]

He's already claimed

I have?

All I said was I had a curse

You claimed hated.

I claimed to have a curse that made me need 1 less vote. I never said anything else to allude to what I may be

OK now THAT'S a scumslip
VOTE: Dunnstral

No it's not

You can have more than 1 spell in your spellbook.

Are you claiming to have more than 1 spell?

Nice rolefishing. I'm not claiming anything. Gamma's prodding at me like I full claimed by saying I had a curse

When I say iron is NU it's because he's basically ascetic.

No he's not

he reflects spells back at people

That's different from being ascetic

Still don't understand how that works, by the way, because they won't explain it.

Giving iron shit for this is not fair
Exlain what the fuck is up with your role

I claimed to have the curse. This shouldn't exclude me from having another spell at my disposal, which I'm not claiming to have. Does that help?

you only answered 1/3 of the question

You're asking me to claim when there's no reason to do so.

That's different than asking ironstove to explain his ability that he offered up and claimed already

You're falsely assuming that my role is called "hated" or something and it's not. I'm a wizard with a spellbook. I claimed a spell I have (Wayward curse) I may or may not have other spells and I'm not claiming that.

If your role was "watcher miller"
What would you claim at the start of the game/day 1

If your role was "miller"
What would you claim at the start of the game/day 1

btw when i said "watcher" I was softing the scry.

[Dunnstral]

or there is someone else also visiting that could mean he is fucked.

only 1 spell is on the dead body so he'd know that he's dunn

[Dunnstral]

look at post 1140

[Dunnstral]

ScumNos I am almost confident would wait it out and see what happens.

If he waited until after I named him it would be too late for him to do anything

That's why he immediately cc'd

I honestly wasn't expecting it either

[Dunnstral]

Why not join me on BTD, didn't you have him in your list?

absolutely
sure, I'll let you do more on pissk with your experience and join you on BTD

UNVOTE: pisskop

VOTE: BTD6_Maker

I have a guilty on nos

[Dunnstral]

Post 1635

[Dunnstral]

I cannot describe how frustratingly stupid this town will be for

lynching dunn over me

if it does indeed happen.

slip.

[Dunnstral]

He's already claimed

I have?

All I said was I had a curse

You claimed hated.

I claimed to have a curse that made me need 1 less vote. I never said anything else to allude to what I may be

OK now THAT'S a scumslip
VOTE: Dunnstral

No it's not

You can have more than 1 spell in your spellbook.

Are you claiming to have more than 1 spell?

Nice rolefishing. I'm not claiming anything. Gamma's prodding at me like I full claimed by saying I had a curse

When I say iron is NU it's because he's basically ascetic.

No he's not

he reflects spells back at people

That's different from being ascetic

Still don't understand how that works, by the way, because they won't explain it.

Giving iron shit for this is not fair
Exlain what the fuck is up with your role

I claimed to have the curse. This shouldn't exclude me from having another spell at my disposal, which I'm not claiming to have. Does that help?

you only answered 1/3 of the question

You're asking me to claim when there's no reason to do so.

That's different than asking ironstove to explain his ability that he offered up and claimed already

You're falsely assuming that my role is called "hated" or something and it's not. I'm a wizard with a spellbook. I claimed a spell I have (Wayward curse) I may or may not have other spells and I'm not claiming that.

If your role was "watcher miller"
What would you claim at the start of the game/day 1

If your role was "miller"
What would you claim at the start of the game/day 1

btw when i said "watcher" I was softing the scry.

Note that nosferatu had nothing to say about this.

Why did I say that stuff? Post 1140?

Also, the slip I mentioned is nos thinking of himself as the lynch instead of me and getting confused in what he wrote. Because he got caught on a watcher report.

[Dunnstral]

I received an ability called "alert" last night.

You should use it on ironstove and report back tomorrow

[Dunnstral]

I cannot describe how frustratingly stupid this town will be for

lynching dunn over me

if it does indeed happen.

slip.

not seeing it

-tama

maybe you need a new pair of eyes.

a second pair, perhaps

[Dunnstral]

actually maybe we should just lynch dunn because there are two scum confirmed. That's worth it, right?

Two scum confirmed?

What are you on about

[Dunnstral]

Gamma got replaced by beeboy who died

[Dunnstral]

We'll never know why he used it on you

Probably didn't read the thread.

[Dunnstral]

This really feels like nosferatu is going to be flipping town.
I really starting to think Dunnstral was making an example of a role and used watcher and got lucky, as in it just so happened he claimed watcher later.
Is that insane? Maybe, but it feels more likely than Nos being scum at the moment.

VOTE: Dunnstral

Yeah I "got lucky"

Fire is scum.

[Dunnstral]

But it is a slip. Nos was thinking of himself as the lynch instead of me subconsciously and so he wrote it down

[Dunnstral]

He's already claimed

I have?

All I said was I had a curse

You claimed hated.

I claimed to have a curse that made me need 1 less vote. I never said anything else to allude to what I may be

OK now THAT'S a scumslip
VOTE: Dunnstral

No it's not

You can have more than 1 spell in your spellbook.

Are you claiming to have more than 1 spell?

Nice rolefishing. I'm not claiming anything. Gamma's prodding at me like I full claimed by saying I had a curse

When I say iron is NU it's because he's basically ascetic.

No he's not

he reflects spells back at people

That's different from being ascetic

Still don't understand how that works, by the way, because they won't explain it.

Giving iron shit for this is not fair
Exlain what the fuck is up with your role

I claimed to have the curse. This shouldn't exclude me from having another spell at my disposal, which I'm not claiming to have. Does that help?

you only answered 1/3 of the question

You're asking me to claim when there's no reason to do so.

That's different than asking ironstove to explain his ability that he offered up and claimed already

You're falsely assuming that my role is called "hated" or something and it's not. I'm a wizard with a spellbook. I claimed a spell I have (Wayward curse) I may or may not have other spells and I'm not claiming that.

If your role was "watcher miller"
What would you claim at the start of the game/day 1

If your role was "miller"
What would you claim at the start of the game/day 1

btw when i said "watcher" I was softing the scry.

Note that nosferatu had nothing to say about this.

Why did I say that stuff? Post 1140?

Also, the slip I mentioned is nos thinking of himself as the lynch instead of me and getting confused in what he wrote. Because he got caught on a watcher report.

What about this?

And fire ignored this too

[Dunnstral]

It's not omgus when he has to ignore posts to vote me

[Dunnstral]

First of all, are there two alert spells?

Second, why is Fire calling me scum and ignoring points and then thinking it's bad that I scumread him if he's going to admit he doesn't scumread me

[Dunnstral]

Yeah it seems like a really terrible mailman. Like it'd be a funny role if a PGO existed but otherwise it really does nothing other than prove you didn't go somewhere.

You can use multiple spells at the same time.

[Dunnstral]

But it is a slip. Nos was thinking of himself as the lynch instead of me subconsciously and so he wrote it down

lolwhat

how about I see more votes on me than you so I'm evidently more likely to be lynched

why do I need to say "dunn targeted beeboy" if dunn claims a scry and I claim that he didn't? It's implied.

I cannot describe how frustratingly stupid this town will be for lynching dunn over me

if it does indeed happen.

Read the part in bold. His defense here doesn't make sense

If you still don't get it, he's saying town would be stupid to lynch me over him. And I have to agree with him, but probably not something he wants to be saying in his position

[Dunnstral]

Ate aside, you really think I "got lucky" by softing in a bunch of my posts and the watcher thing while nos conveniently didn't soft anything?

Like I know you're weak to ate but don't let it delude you. Move your vote back to nos please

[Dunnstral]

Would it help if I made a giant ate post

[Dunnstral]

Why haven't you called us scum like you did Fire?

You aren't ignoring things to make your vote....

[Dunnstral]

Nos was town =/

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Dunnstral

[Dunnstral]

I liked the part where the watcher spell caught me