Mini 1853: Trial of the Evoker [Game Over]

[BATORU]

I targeted pisskop first but then I realized gamma was townier and probably a nightkill target, so I switched my vote to him.

How was Gamma townier?

I really don't see why you, pk, and Fire seem to think so.

~Ruko

[Fire Assassin]

I skimmed Dunnstral iso looking for references to Gamma.
I see no reason why he thought watching gamma was better than someone else.

He was soft pushing him most of the day, and defending pushes by him.
Ill have to examine nos for why he checked gamma.

[Dunnstral]

He was soft pushing him most of the day, and defending pushes by him.

LOL huge misrep

Hold on I'll get them

[Dunnstral]

Of all the players who have posted so far, I like, in a purely mafia-related sense, Sondam and BTD6.

DISAGREE with them being town

Especially btd6 it's too early to read them


Right now I'm townreading Batoru, Mega Frozen, and You

Some RQS if you'd like, I'm not going to hound you if you don't:

1) What's your favorite game of mafia? What happened?

2) Do you feel like you get lynched more as town or scum? What do you think the typical reasoning is?

3) Describe your mindset when playing scum. Eg. Is your main focus to towntell, to set up mislynches, to set up your partners, to bruteforce a win yourself?

1) Don't really have one

2) Definitely get lynched more as town. Though I feel like I barely get lynched in general and when I do it's for dumb reasons. I always seem to be night killed as scum in multiball, though

3) The towntell part just comes naturally for me. I think I like to set up associations that aren't necessarily true that others would look at to help my allies if I should perish

Prism trying to fit in. confirmed scum

~G

I hard townread Prism

Usually my reads are on point

Why do you think Mega Frozen is scum?

I questioned the Frozen read as townreads from others came in affirming that this is just how Frozen plays

Well it is how she plays

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... B%5D=26900

copy paste this in, she was town here and I was scum

In #350 they said they thought this game matched Frozen's town meta, but the game he links in #459 has Frozen playing entirely differently.

I disagree that they are different. I say they're similar.

The townread on me made no sense. The explanation behind his votes is nonexistent and he's been almost entirely on the defensive, either directly or indirectly through posts that have no point other than to say something for the sake of it.

I've been pushing all game, what are you talking about?

I was on the defensive when Gamma was rolefishing and saying I slipped over something dumb

Posts like #1131 and #1180 don't feel legitimate whatsoever.

How so?

How do you interpret those as scummy/the basis of your push here

Here's my early game townread

Never scumread gamma on his own either, though I disagreed with him I thought him likely town

[Fire Assassin]

Nosferatu calls pisskop and gamma town multiple times in the day.
He even quotes a post by gamma where gamma says he is going to mess with someone using their role.
Nosferatu says something cheeky about being role blocked [To me it makes sense to check this person to make sure no one blocks them or see if someone visits based on this]

[Fire Assassin]

Nosferatu also votes gamma though.
I guess thats a strike against.

[Dunnstral]

I softed having an additional power multiple times.

[Fire Assassin]

I softed having an additional power multiple times.

Show me.

[Nosferatu]

Like mechanically it should be obvious that I'm town and nos is scum.

Why mechanically?

~Ruko

Like mechanically it should be obvious that I'm town and nos is scum.

No, I think you saw that beeboy had the spell "scry" on him.
Knew he was watched.

Decided premptively claim that you had watched the person and knew who targetted them, waiting to be CCed then say "Yeah, nos targetted him".

Thats what looks like what happened.
You would vote him outright if anything else.
I see no purpose in waiting beyond finding out who the person your ccing.

Imagine that I'm scum and nos is a townie who scry'd me to the kill

I come out and say I used scry


And then what? I start prod dodging? That's a scum claim

If I were nos and nos were town, he wouldn't have cc'd me for a 1v1 - because I've already claimed scum

But he's not town, and so he had to cc me as fast as possible

literally makes no fuckin sense. There's no reason for me to not cc you, since I've lost my power and scum isn't prioritizing me for the nightkill now since I'm a VT.

[Fire Assassin]

I also don't see a reason for Nosferatu to come out of the gate to CC.
Lets say Dunn you are town.
Nos only knows that you saw someone visiting gamma.
That means he is dead or there is someone else also visiting that could mean he is fucked.
Nos immediately says that you are the one who visited.

ScumNos I am almost confident would wait it out and see what happens.
Not jump out of the gate to cc your claim.

[Dunnstral]

He's already claimed

I have?

All I said was I had a curse

You claimed hated.

I claimed to have a curse that made me need 1 less vote. I never said anything else to allude to what I may be

OK now THAT'S a scumslip
VOTE: Dunnstral

No it's not

You can have more than 1 spell in your spellbook.

Are you claiming to have more than 1 spell?

Nice rolefishing. I'm not claiming anything. Gamma's prodding at me like I full claimed by saying I had a curse

When I say iron is NU it's because he's basically ascetic.

No he's not

he reflects spells back at people

That's different from being ascetic

Still don't understand how that works, by the way, because they won't explain it.

Giving iron shit for this is not fair
Exlain what the fuck is up with your role

I claimed to have the curse. This shouldn't exclude me from having another spell at my disposal, which I'm not claiming to have. Does that help?

you only answered 1/3 of the question

You're asking me to claim when there's no reason to do so.

That's different than asking ironstove to explain his ability that he offered up and claimed already

You're falsely assuming that my role is called "hated" or something and it's not. I'm a wizard with a spellbook. I claimed a spell I have (Wayward curse) I may or may not have other spells and I'm not claiming that.

If your role was "watcher miller"
What would you claim at the start of the game/day 1

If your role was "miller"
What would you claim at the start of the game/day 1

btw when i said "watcher" I was softing the scry.

[Dunnstral]

or there is someone else also visiting that could mean he is fucked.

only 1 spell is on the dead body so he'd know that he's dunn

[Dunnstral]

look at post 1140

[Fire Assassin]

UNVOTE:

[Fire Assassin]

I will think about this more later.
Taking a break.

[Dunnstral]

ScumNos I am almost confident would wait it out and see what happens.

If he waited until after I named him it would be too late for him to do anything

That's why he immediately cc'd

I honestly wasn't expecting it either

[Nosferatu]

I targeted pisskop first but then I realized gamma was townier and probably a nightkill target, so I switched my vote to him.

How was Gamma townier?

I really don't see why you, pk, and Fire seem to think so.

~Ruko

other people townread gamma more than they did pisskop I thought. People also were more willing to go along with gamma. pk was almost lynched and was consistently discredited the whole day; scum wouldn't kill him, but they probably would gamma.

[Nosferatu]

idr if anyone else was in Soccer Spirits Mafia, but I immediately cc'd someone in that game when they claimed to vig scum, when I vigged them. It turned out that we both vigged him and we were both town.

[Nosferatu]

Yo before we lynch can we direct me please

I targeted DS last night

I'm a vig

I just steal vote n1, then they die n2

HOLY FUCK NO YOU FAGGOT I KILLED HIM
VOTE: BBmolla

probably fucking scum votestealer who wants to get some town points by stealing credit FOR MY FUCKING VIG.

NOT TODAY BITCH

I don't tend to let time pass before cc'ing.

[BATORU]

Both of your ISOs make me want to claw my eyes out and feed them to my future first-born.

I liked Dunn's push on Nos early because barring the meta part it was in line with what I disliked about Nos.
457 Would Nos be so unapologetic about having no reads at a time in the game where everyone else had something if he were scum? < Fire let me know please

@Mod if two people had hypothetically targeted beeboy with the same spell, would both show in his book upon flip or just one?

~Ruko

[BATORU]

Yo before we lynch can we direct me please

I targeted DS last night

I'm a vig

I just steal vote n1, then they die n2

HOLY FUCK NO YOU FAGGOT I KILLED HIM
VOTE: BBmolla

probably fucking scum votestealer who wants to get some town points by stealing credit FOR MY FUCKING VIG.

NOT TODAY BITCH

I don't tend to let time pass before cc'ing.

This is a pretty stark emotional difference to here.

~Ruko

[drealmerz7]

Why not join me on BTD, didn't you have him in your list?

absolutely
sure, I'll let you do more on pissk with your experience and join you on BTD

UNVOTE: pisskop

VOTE: BTD6_Maker

[Nahdia]

@Mod if two people had hypothetically targeted beeboy with the same spell, would both show in his book upon flip or just one?

Should you have multiple instances of a single spell, it will appear multiple times in your spellbook.

[Nosferatu]

Yo before we lynch can we direct me please

I targeted DS last night

I'm a vig

I just steal vote n1, then they die n2

HOLY FUCK NO YOU FAGGOT I KILLED HIM
VOTE: BBmolla

probably fucking scum votestealer who wants to get some town points by stealing credit FOR MY FUCKING VIG.

NOT TODAY BITCH

I don't tend to let time pass before cc'ing.

This is a pretty stark emotional difference to here.

~Ruko

I was 14 when I made that post. Prone to frequent emotional outburts from hormones.

Why not join me on BTD, didn't you have him in your list?

absolutely
sure, I'll let you do more on pissk with your experience and join you on BTD

UNVOTE: pisskop

VOTE: BTD6_Maker

what the fuck are you doing.

[Dunnstral]

Why not join me on BTD, didn't you have him in your list?

absolutely
sure, I'll let you do more on pissk with your experience and join you on BTD

UNVOTE: pisskop

VOTE: BTD6_Maker

I have a guilty on nos