Mini #534 - Vegetable Mafia (Game Over!)
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Why? What information does bandwagoning glean? Why is this information nullified if the bandwagon is started by the person being bandwagoned? Use your head, don't just make assertions.When you vote for yourself and ask others to vote for you, we learn very little about you or the people voting for you, other than you are a strange goofball. Maybe we might learn about people voting for you if they go nuts and quickly put you at L-2 or something, but compared to simple random-voting to test other people's reactions, a self-bandwagon is completely useless and probably counterproductive for the town.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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No, I'm not telling you to bandwagon anyone. There's a ~75% chance (depending on the setup) that any given person we're wagoning is town, and theme setups often are heavier on the roles, so it's at least as likely that we'll force a town powerrole to claim than catch a scum with any given wagon. No, the way to work with wagons is to watch those on them and those off them.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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We'll agree to disagree, then.
Please clarify your reference to the difference between newbies and vets; as nearly as I can tell, it was more or less axiomatical, completely meaningless, responded to nothing, and added nothing to the discussion.
I voted you because I believe the randomwagon stage is a perfectly normal and productive part of Mafia as it is played on MS, and I find interfering without a good reason to be marginally anti-town.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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After spending a full four minutes trying to decipher thinktank's post, here is my response.
thinktank, is English your native language? If so, please observe the following rules or I shall ignore your posts based on the negative risk:reward (migraine:uselessness) ratio.
Capitalise the first word of every sentence.
Use commas between clauses.
Use end punctuation at the end of every sentence.
Capitalise the word "I", as it refers to oneself.
Capitalise the names of your fellow players, unless they're sufficiently illiterate to have not capitalised their own name.
Use either a period or an ellipse; don't use their bastard child, "..".
On a related note, don't end EVERY FUCKING SENTENCE with "..".
If you choose to upgrade these to a full ellipse, consider some variety with end punctuation. One multi-paragraph sentence punctuated only with ellipses is irritating at best and illegible at worst.
"U" is not a valid substitute for "you."
Don't insult your fellow scummers' collective intelligence unless you're confident that you're more intelligent than they are. Then, do it in such a way that it showcases the intelligence gap, such as patronisingly giving them an impromptu crash course in the English launguage.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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You voted. The mod counted it, even though it wasn't in the proper syntax. I count that as a vote. If you were trying to lay a trap, explain. If not, then you intended to vote, you posted a vote, and the mod counted it. That's a vote.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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You voted. The mod counted it, even though it wasn't in the proper syntax. I count that as a vote. If you were trying to lay a trap, explain. If not, then you intended to vote, you posted a vote, and the mod counted it. That's a vote.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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No, it means, "My vote stands."
destructor has failed to provide an adequate reason for voting Ryan (which he did, regardless of what he says).
And if he was really playing some cute little bullshit game to the tune of "Oh, but I didn't put the comma in the right place so it wasn't REALLLLY a vote so why are you mad?" I find that scummy. It looks like a fallback position for scum hoping for a quick lynch to me.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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I just read 124.
And I've never said he's obviously scum, either, regardless of the way you put it in quotes. Nor have I pushed his lynch.
Nor do I really think you're that scummy, at this point, although I'm majorly pissed at you for post 122.
I mean, I can understand unvoting, and urging caution, and asking for an explanation... but you ask him for an explanation, then give him one and ask "something like that, right?" If that's not giving someone an out then I don't know what is.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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You seem absolutely positive that destructor is scum. You've given no evidence beyond blandly echoing others. You're pushing for a lynch on page 6. You claim that Oman and destructor's behaviours have both been scummy enough for a lynch.
I'm asking for a votecount to make sure that I don't put you at L-1 when I vote you.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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Quit trying to deflect attention. I realise he's scummy. I think you're scummier for your absolute surety and your gung-ho LYNCHTHESE2NOWKTHXBAI attitude on Page 7. He's not THAT scummy.
We've been over this.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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Townies shouldalmostnever be lynching on anti-town behaviour. They should be lynching people whose behaviour ispro-scum.
I use scum here as a synonym for any group or individual whose win requires or causes the town to lose.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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That's not true. Lurking, for example, is not anti-town, but it is pro-scum.
By comparison, posting your role PM is not pro-scum but it is anti-town.
And trying to get someone lynched because they make fun of you for being a moron in a previous game is both anti-town and pro-scum.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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I was just giving examples. Obviously, you're not familiar with the difference between anti-town and scummy. Excuse me for trying to make you a better player. It was probably a lost cause anyway.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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*raises eyebrows at Ryan*
You might need Dr. Phil. In fact, the psychologist should claim now. =P
Think about it. If there was a quicklynch and the mod counted his vote, destructor could say, "oh, i was just testing reactions, I didn't think the mod would actually count it!" If not, "oh, i was just testing reactions, you guys are overreacting." That's why I say fallback position for scum.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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I could point out what's wrong with the above posts in the area of spelling, grammar, logic, syntax, et cetera, but it's not worth the effort.Phate wrote:After spending a full four minutes trying to decipher thinktank's post, here is my response.
thinktank, is English your native language? If so, please observe the following rules or I shall ignore your posts based on the negative risk:reward (migraine:uselessness) ratio.
Capitalise the first word of every sentence.
Use commas between clauses.
Use end punctuation at the end of every sentence.
Capitalise the word "I", as it refers to oneself.
Capitalise the names of your fellow players, unless they're sufficiently illiterate to have not capitalised their own name.
Use either a period or an ellipse; don't use their bastard child, "..".
On a related note, don't end EVERY FUCKING SENTENCE with "..".
If you choose to upgrade these to a full ellipse, consider some variety with end punctuation. One multi-paragraph sentence punctuated only with ellipses is irritating at best and illegible at worst.
"U" is not a valid substitute for "you."
Don't insult your fellow scummers' collective intelligence unless you're confident that you're more intelligent than they are. Then, do it in such a way that it showcases the intelligence gap, such as patronisingly giving them an impromptu crash course in the English launguage.
Also, it's not spelled "ludacris" or "sry".
thinktank, I've told you, your posts are not worth trying to decipher in order to gain an understanding of your flawed logic.
/ignore thinktank.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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Crub, how has my opinion been floating with the wind? After we got out of the random stage, my suspicion was firmly on destructor. Ryan's professed absolute surety of alignment and desire to lynch on Page 3 made me change my vote to Ryan, and I believe I was the first to do so. I still think destructor is scummy, though, and I'm leaning toward an either/or configuration.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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That totally doesn't help scum at all.
I just surreptiously claimed vanilla townie, and every other vanilla townie will know that I'm a confirmed vanilla townie.
It's a closed setup. That's a fact. That means we don't know what roles there are in the game. Which makes it easy for scum to lie.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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I believe you.
I'm a vanilla townie also and I am lettuce.
So NOW, any vanilla townie who's not lettuce or cucumber (and evidently, rolenames are unique) will know that we're both confirmed vanilla townies. *grins*I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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Note: referring to the following, which is myself answering another question about closed setups.Obviously you were wrong about the your first assumption. Can you, please, prove me the other one?
Yes. Scroll up, look at the OP, and observe the fact that the roles are not listed. This makes the game, by definition, a closed setup. What's difficult to understand about this?It's a closed setup. That's a fact. That means we don't know what roles there are in the game. Which makes it easy for scum to lie.
The scum don't have a safe claim. And if they did, ruining it would be a bad thing because...?Did you just ruined the scum's safe claim?I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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I don't get it. The scum don't have a safe claim. If they did, the way I'd know it would be to be a vanilla, in a game where all vanillas have the same rolename. Being scum wouldn't help me at all.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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Please be more specific, Ryan, as I have no idea what you're referring to.
Do you mean roles? I know that there are vanilla townies, probably protown powerroles, and some form of scum, most likely a Mafia. I know (as does every other vanilla townie, unless princess is scum) that I am a vanilla townie, and that princess is not a protown powerrole.
Do you mean rolenames? I know that we're all named after vegetables, and the town is named after green ones.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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WhoMe, I still don't get it. I know scum don't have a safe claim because thedragonprincess claimed vanilla townie with a different rolename. Thus, many vegetables are used, and if a scum claims a particular vegetable, it may well already be taken. That's how I know that scum don't have a safe claim.
Explain again how this makes me scum. Type slow, I don't read fast. =PI will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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Oh.
No, that's not what I was talking about at all. I meant that if all the vanillas were lettuce, that would be giving the scum a safe claim... but I also couldn't know that unless I was vanilla.
Now, I repeat, explain to me why this makes me scum.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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Phate wrote:Oh.
No, that's not what I was talking about at all. I meant that if all the vanillas were lettuce, that would be giving the scum a safe claim... but I also couldn't know that unless I was vanilla.
Now, I repeat, explain to me why this makes me scum.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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Phate wrote:Phate wrote:Oh.
No, that's not what I was talking about at all. I meant that if all the vanillas were lettuce, that would be giving the scum a safe claim... but I also couldn't know that unless I was vanilla.
Now, I repeat, explain to me why this makes me scum.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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Both "slips" are completely explained by the fact that I misunderstood what a safe claim is. For your second "slip", I was explaining what I thought was meant by safe claims.
I've adequately explained my voting you.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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Translation: "You can explain why your slips aren't slips all you want, but they're still slips, because I said so, and obviously, they helped you, because obviously, they're scum. Oh, and I'm town."
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Tell me, what's the difference between "whatever, scum" and "I don't buy your explanation, I think you messed up and now are scrambling to cover your ass."?
You say you don't buy my explanation, but you don't say why, which is odd, because it's a perfectly reasonable explanation (I'm new to the site, I can't be expected to automatically know all vocabulary terms). For crying out loud, look at my join date.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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Note: I've already explained that the "wow, way to give your buddy an out" wasn't a serious accusation, just my being frustrated at kravhen's behaviour. Yes, I do find destructor scummy. But I'm not positive that he's scum.
And as for the appeal to newbness, what can I say except that it's true?I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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No, soupfly, I'm not cheating. A post or two later, I confirmed - that was indeed a Lettuce vanilla townie claim.
I would consider a nameclaim, but not a roleclaim.
You know what would be cool? An encrypted mass claim. What would you guys think about that?I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6500 <-- encrypted claims.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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What I meant: The scum don't know for certain that there's something they can claim, like they did if all vanillas were lettuce and a vanilla said so. But I couldn't know that unless I was a vanilla lettuce, anyway.
As previously stated, I misunderstood the term safe claim.I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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