Mini #534 - Vegetable Mafia (Game Over!)

Phate · Post Post #550 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:40 am

that's a good thing, TDP. We're basically directing the mafia to a vanilla. If they're shooting the mason, they're not shooting any powerroles.

thedragonsprincess · Post Post #551 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:58 am

yea, thats true. I didnt think of that.

soupfly · Post Post #552 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:45 pm

the remaining mason is not a vanilla. he is valuable if he makes it to later in the game where his alignment can significantly improve the chance to lynch scum. a confirmed townie can be very valuable as you approach lylo.

so whoever is the remaining mason should NOT claim.

whoever is pushing for this claim is very suspicious in my eyes.

Patrick · Post Post #553 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:35 pm

Votecount

Crub (1) -- destructor
Oman (2) -- Bookitty, thedragonsprincess
gorckat (1) -- soupfly

Not voting: Crub, Oman, WhoMe?, gorckat, Phate
9 alive, 5 to lynch.

destructor · Post Post #554 (ISO) » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:42 am

Crub wrote:
destructor wrote:In the mean time...

Vote: Crub
Care to outline why exactly?

Maybe I got a guilty investigation on you?

I'm feeling like we're seeing a lot of opportunism around Oman's 'beans' thing. That said, it could be dodgy. I'll try to reread and maybe do a player-by-player-thing.

Crub · Post Post #555 (ISO) » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:47 am

destructor wrote:
Crub wrote:
destructor wrote:In the mean time...

Vote: Crub
Care to outline why exactly?
Maybe I got a guilty investigation on you?

I'm feeling like we're seeing a lot of opportunism around Oman's 'beans' thing. That said, it could be dodgy. I'll try to reread and maybe do a player-by-player-thing.

The good old half a cop claim

Oman · Post Post #556 (ISO) » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:00 am

destructor wrote:Maybe I got a guilty investigation on you?

I hate half-claims.

Patrick · Post Post #557 (ISO) » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:13 pm

Note that I'll be away from tomorrow until the 17th. I'm sure you'll all manage fine without me.

gorckat · Post Post #558 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:41 am

soup wrote:i also find the green bean(s) suspicious. it was slightly less troubling than the pepper because a green bean is not just a bean that is of the color green. in other words green beans and other types of beans are different morphologically whereas a green pepper and a yellow pepper differ only in color.

Perhaps there's mafia peppers, thus the color specification. Same for the bean.

Since I wasn't around, I agree the mason should stay out of sight. If they can confirm themselves later, then they're gold in the endgame.

destructor:

Did

you get a guilty on Crub?

Bookitty · Post Post #559 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:42 pm

Reasons against Oman:

Post 73: Bandwagon on ryan "UNTIL NORTHJAYHAWK GETS BACK" Time limit on bandwagon.

Post 98: Unvotes two days later, claiming bandwagon just for information.

Post 416: "Ryan caught me, which wouldn't be hard, cause our role pms say we're both scum together." Deliberate presenting of WIFOM.

Never votes ryan again. Leaves out part of my reasoning for voting ryan (this may not be deliberate though) in his Post 484.

ryan pushed Oman's lynch but says himself in Post 463 "Neither Oman nor destructor were close to an "easy lynch" at the time of said discussion"

Looks like distancing. Don't like the WIFOM comment. Neither one was serious about bandwagoning the other, but a lot of interaction. Looks very suspicious to me.

destructor · Post Post #560 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:12 pm

I think Bookitty makes a notable case on Oman. I really didn't like his 'scum-buddy' comments from Day 1 and the whole vanilla thing still doesn't sit well with me.

I don't understand the Mason claim thing. Why are we even assuming there are masons in this game? And how could there only be 1 mason left anyway? Wouldn't we have seen a mason role revealed with one of the dead?

I've definitely got an eye on WhoMe? now.

gorckat wrote:destructor:
Did
you get a guilty on Crub?

How is this different from outright asking me if I'm a cop?

destructor · Post Post #561 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:13 pm

Oh.. I just noticed that Y was a mason.

WhoMe? · Post Post #562 (ISO) » Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:16 am

destructor wrote:
gorckat wrote:destructor:
Did
you get a guilty on Crub?
How is this different from outright asking me if I'm a cop?

You don't get to play the role fishing card after making a post saying "Maybe I got a guilty on you".

Oman · Post Post #563 (ISO) » Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:05 am

Bookitty wrote:Bandwagon on ryan "UNTIL NORTHJAYHAWK GETS BACK" Time limit on bandwagon

Bookitty wrote:Unvotes two days later, claiming bandwagon just for information.

Firstly, the until NJH gets back comment was cause my vote was on him except he was away.

Secondly, don't these two compliment each other? Time limit, unvoting soon after.

Bookitty wrote:Post 416: "Ryan caught me, which wouldn't be hard, cause our role pms say we're both scum together." Deliberate presenting of WIFOM.

I've used this in several games, its alignment non-withstanding (unfortunatly, most of them are ongoing so I can't link)

And are you KIDDING me that D1 info bandwagon is a scumtell to you?!?

WhoMe? wrote:You don't get to play the role fishing card after making a post saying "Maybe I got a guilty on you".

Damn straight!

gorckat · Post Post #564 (ISO) » Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:31 am

destructor wrote:How is this different from outright asking me if I'm a cop?

My bad.

destructor: Are you the cop? If you've caught Crub, then say so so we can string him up. Two scum in two days seems pretty good to me.

thedragonsprincess · Post Post #565 (ISO) » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:58 am

unless destructor is mafia simply claiming cop. that being said... anyone care to counterclaim?

WhoMe? · Post Post #566 (ISO) » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:02 am

how can anyone counterclaim when we don't have an actual claim yet?

thedragonsprincess · Post Post #567 (ISO) » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:16 am

Maybe I got a guilty investigation on you?

that sounds like a cop claim if I ever heard one

ryan · Post Post #568 (ISO) » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:44 am

OR a valid question

Y · Post Post #569 (ISO) » Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:38 pm

ryan wrote:OR a valid question

You're dead. You shouldn't post.

thedragonsprincess · Post Post #570 (ISO) » Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:41 pm

neither should you :-p

Crub · Post Post #571 (ISO) » Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:32 pm

thedragonsprincess wrote:unless destructor is mafia simply claiming cop. that being said... anyone care to counterclaim?

*raised eyebrows*

destructor · Post Post #572 (ISO) » Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:38 pm

Crub wrote:
thedragonsprincess wrote:unless destructor is mafia simply claiming cop. that being said... anyone care to counterclaim?
*raised eyebrows*

QFT

I'm not the cop. I didn't have a good read on Crub but was feeling uneasy about him, so I said that to see his and others' reactions. Not sure what to make of it all, but I figured I'd better nip this at the bud.

WhoMe? · Post Post #573 (ISO) » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:55 pm

vote destructor

I find that to have been an anti-town move. Muddying the waters is not a good thing in my view.

Bookitty · Post Post #574 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:11 am

I still think the "green beans" thing is pretty suspicious.

I'd rather the Mason not reveal themselves until later in the game or unless they are forced to claim.

I don't like Destructor half-claiming cop, but I really don't like thedragonsprincess asking for a counterclaim when Destructor hadn't actually claimed cop. Looks like rolefishing (more blatant than fishing, actually) to me.