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VOTE: Elena Dunnsher

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yeah

this tactical lurking is something he likes to do a lot as scum

I have never tactical lurked as scum and for Dunnstral to claim such is laughable and more to the point he would know better. It's not something that I do at all.

Town!Dunn never makes this claim.

VOTE: Dunnstral

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Also that item is actually gamebreaking because it makes scum unlynchable in LyLo

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uhh obviously I knew it was a joke. but 1-shot use still means you can save it till later in the game

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VOTE: Dunnstral

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i always am bothered by votes on myself

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VOTE: Drealmerz7

policy at this poitn

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Firebringer it's bad because you could be SO GOOD if you tried harder

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Jeez is this how people see me?

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is this how I come across in mafia games sometimes?

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Elena is town btw.

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I'm not confident that Drealmerz7 is town. i get where elena is coming from but this isn't that different from what he did in my game.

i take his behaviour in this game as more of a drealmerz7 tell than anything and assuming that he's town for it is contrary to what I know of him as a player

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I feel like he really is scum hunting though scum dreal is much more relaxed and doesn't need to be talked down

No this is wrong. read the game that i modded.

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meh if I were scum I'd likely refrain doing what I did as to not draw the hate-votes on me

bullshit you nearly got yourself policy lynched being a dick to FA

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like and that's FA we're talking about where I've basically never been lynched as scum and I would still never willingly pick a fight with FA unless I had no other options.

assuming that Drealmerz7 wouldn't pull this bullshit as scum to get townread for it is a mistake and I will force a lynch on him if I think you guys are going to write him out of the lynchpool for it.

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VOTE: Drealmerz7

Yeah I think I was already voting him but this reversal feels really really dirty and I feel like he was legitimately just being an abrasive dick to get townread for it.

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Elena is town but she's being real dumb rn

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ftr if I am saved from a nightkill I learn the identities of everyone who targets me

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because my experience is that no matter how obvtown I am and no matter how much my reputation for being nightkilled precedes me people don't doc me

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Drealmerz7 I'm not talking to you. I will tunnel you for the remainder of this game until you get lynched or I will die in the process.

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Toog if I am scum town has already lost this game and it would behoove you to play along those lines.

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I am feeling significantly better but still not at my best.

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Uhhhhhhh

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Fire/Drealmerz7 are probably scumpartners who planned this before the game to be honest

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Fuck it I'm getting mislynched at some point this game I'm gonna roll for it.

VOTE: Drealmerz

get fuckt drealfucker

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If I'm not constantly on police mode as town I get mislynched.

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POSTIE

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KILL FUCKING DREALFUCKER.

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I can do what needs to be done. you are dying today.

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that is what needs to be done (you stop being a bully) - you need to stop with that shit, seriously, it's fucking horrid

you need to learn to play and actually give reasons why you think it is so dire someone be lynched

learn to express yourself rather than just OAMDFGOMAKGAO[IGJAIO[WEFMIO[QWEPJRQ34JRQWEJFIOASDMFKASDJF ADIEIEEEE

No your scumgame is fucking horrid.

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Oh believe me I know you've won scum games. I know full well how easy it is to win scum games by being an absolute dickweed and having everyone read you as town for it.

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Good, let's do this 1v1. I genuinely don't think I win it because I am going to be autoread as scum based on my playername but you do not survive tomorrow.

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GET THE FUCK AT ME THEN DREALBRO

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Also don't flatter yourself and act like you're a threat to

me

. I get you're scum posturing but please.

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I agree that I feel 'threatened' in a sense and read as such. But you thinking that you ever threaten me as scum is

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you try to control the gamestate as either alignment, but as scum you get more pissy about not being able to

and that is the read I'm getting here

I don't not control the gamestate as scum unless I'm not actually trying to

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no drealmerz7 dead meat

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Wheme is town Elena is town Drealmerz7 is scum.

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Tywin is scum regardless of whether he's white knighting or hard defending his scumbuddy but given my experience with him he's far more liable to hard defend than white knight

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I'm really not good at that, sorry.

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drealmerz7 being annoying doesn't make him town. did you read in memory like I suggested you do?

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wheme wagon is a giant joke

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drealmerz7 is dying today

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No like I will get Drealmerz lynched today. period.

I am willing to go to some pretty extreme lengths and make this game a lot less fun for everyone involved if that's what it takes but they are dying today.

if you all want to play hardball and push shit wagons and help scum then you are going to force my hand and I think everyone would have a better time if you just lynched Drealmerz

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'hand of fate must be forced' and about half of this playerlist has already severely pissed me off either in this game or another one

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I'm not going to fade out like I did in 2016 with a bunch of games where I knew scum but didn't have the follow through to get them lynched.

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i'll take a break with drealmerz7's head on a stick

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it gets scum lynched and we can reset then.

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no actually my play this game makes this one of the few games that I think anyone with even a cursory understanding of me could call locktown

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VOTE: Drealmerz7 get fucking dead

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i'm going to bed.

tomorrow if there are not more drealmerz7 votes I will go full dictator mode

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I'm not lynching RC or drealmerz (this guys name is hell using autocorrect). RC can threaten all he wants, but all he can do is post. If he spams and makes it entirely unplayable, he'll get banned. The same goes for drealmerz. They'll calm down eventually, although I can't trust either to ever play the game correctly. If they're both town (which I think they are), then scum have it pretty easy with such a loud distraction.

If we are both town why is absolutely no one in the game willing to vote either of us? Where is the scum jumping at the wagon to blame me for it?

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I am not being toxic. I am attempting to lynch someone. You don't see me being extremely rude towards Firebringer for absolutely nothing

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I'm not lynching RC or drealmerz (this guys name is hell using autocorrect). RC can threaten all he wants, but all he can do is post. If he spams and makes it entirely unplayable, he'll get banned. The same goes for drealmerz. They'll calm down eventually, although I can't trust either to ever play the game correctly. If they're both town (which I think they are), then scum have it pretty easy with such a loud distraction.

If we are both town why is absolutely no one in the game willing to vote either of us? Where is the scum jumping at the wagon to blame me for it?

Typically you see a few votes to see scum jump on board.
Currently players are in the chill the fuck out category.

What do you think about PeregrineV's 'let's lynching both of them!' stance?

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I am not threatening toxicity but I am perfectly capable of legally making it impossible for any discussion to get through besides discussion on Drealmerz7.

We're not at that point yet but when people are letting scum leverage town into ignoring me it's going to become a very tempting option

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Drealmerz7 has to die and I have to enable that to win this game. Wheme is an obvious scum counterwagon and no one in town is seeing that so I have to take matters into my own hands.

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The

only

alternative wagon that I am willing to consider is PeregrineV.

No wheme is not scum and you have a bad habit of scumreading people that I know are town

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It's not meant to be helpful in terms of what you define helpful as. my strict definition of helpful is gets town closer to winning. I am doing that to the best of my ability.

When I try to be helpful I get ignored and scum win games because louder and considerably worse mafia players take the wheel.

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I have been scumpartners with Wheme in a newbie, I was the sole person townreading them in GIM when they were town, I have correctly caught them as scum.

My read on Wheme is more reliable than anyone elses in this game and the sheer fact of him getting powerwagoned like this should indicate that he's town.

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And I'm not even calling them locktown. They're a medium strength townread. But I'm the only one here who has a read on them worth a damn so my read goes.

@Wheme voters: What experience do you have playing with them?

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No actually people who decry wagon speed are dumb because it's highly relevant.

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Like CAN THERE BE fast wagons on scum? YES. but NOT in this situation. NOT with these voters.

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Whoa, 4 pages in and already name-fighting.

Just going to vote the biggest wagon.....

Vote: WhemeStar

Totally hilarious to me that the first post I found scummy was his (80).

One offhanded comment with no contribution
Literally just votes the biggest wagon and says it
Calls a post scummy without saying why

And I'm completely putting rc/dreal on ignore.

I might be willing to lynch both of them.

Are you town this game?

Says to lynch both of a pair of 'competing wagons', one of which is mod confirmed town fmpov.
I strongly suspect that they're both scum and the plan was just to try to get me lynched and be all 'oh don't need to lynch Drealmerz7 anymore was just lynching RC to solve the issue' but if this was TvT this isn't how it would be going down

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VOTE: PeregrineV

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I'm not lynching RC or drealmerz (this guys name is hell using autocorrect). RC can threaten all he wants, but all he can do is post. If he spams and makes it entirely unplayable, he'll get banned. The same goes for drealmerz. They'll calm down eventually, although I can't trust either to ever play the game correctly. If they're both town (which I think they are), then scum have it pretty easy with such a loud distraction.

If we are both town why is absolutely no one in the game willing to vote either of us? Where is the scum jumping at the wagon to blame me for it?

Anyone that knows you probably already knows you're not an easy target regardless, and they'll take whatever comes easiest D1. Why wouldn't they? Why stick their neck out to try to lynch someone that could get them in a shitstorm of attention?

Drealmers on the other hand has gotten votes, and he's clearly easier to mislynch. Think about it. What would you do as scum? You'd let town gang themselves. Scum don't even need to be on D1 wagons most of the time to still get a mislynch.

Yes I fucking fully agree that scum would NOT jump on me today. That is stupid. But jumping on Drealmerz7 and hiding behind RC's push on them is something I would expect to see.

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Too many people = literally just me?

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I never forgot Wheme exists...?

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It's not hypocritical when you consider that 1) I am god emperor RC and everyone else isn't

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gamestate and you not specifically feeling scummy

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also I figure if you were scum you would have posted a lot less

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That is what I do

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then i'll deal with you a lot later

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you haven't seen the powerbus yet

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you're fucking dumb if you haven't realized that I was the reason we won that, replaced out or not

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I kept alive a slot that had half of the moron town voting it. I derailed the D1 lynch on the watcher. I correctly called that there was scum in a very small pool and A50 on replacing in trusted my judgement and shot 2 of them and killed 1 scum. Without me you'd have chain made shit lynches and lost. Yes, I wasn't positive who was the scum on my wagon but with TTTT and Peregrine playing like headless chickens I should have been able to lynch scum lynching any of them.

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I like my peregrinev vote more than drealmerz7 or toog atm

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toog just relax and vote the scumfucks

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Tywin how do you prevent that aside from having someone like me go full blown autocrat and power through lynches, and does that make you understand why I play autocrat in certain situations?

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hey wheme

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hey fire

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hey dunn

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toogeloo kinda towntelling fmpov though so I wanna do this and if I unvote peregrine to sheep you people will just end up voting you

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maybe but you know that if I'm scum I can make a reason that makes sense so perhaps I simply don't want to give the real answer

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I agree he's not really scumhunting, I disagree that he's 'acting' like he is'.

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if he's scum with peregrine we'll lynch him later

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when tf am i ever lazy scum
when tf do I ever pull threats like that as scum

this game is clear town and I will gladly lynch you if you try to suggest otherwise

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ok if Pere5 flips town ro does something townie later we'll switch wagons but for now I think Pere way more likely to be scums

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Tywin how do you prevent that aside from having someone like me go full blown autocrat and power through lynches, and does that make you understand why I play autocrat in certain situations?

I completely understand the thought process of why you do it, but I just don't think it works. You can't force things people don't agree with. Either you level with them on their wavelength and change their opinion, or it doesn't work. Thats just my opinion though.

It does work but it requires a certain mindset and a certain willingness to disregard others.

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you're fucking dumb if you haven't realized that I was the reason we won that, replaced out or not

I'm fucking dumb, if this is the barometer we are using.

Already knew that considering you were sitting on me that entire game

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Fire are you scum bro

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Toog is kinda obvious town and I'm going to veto the shit out of that lynch.

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Because the rest of his role is something that town benefits from not being shared whereas miller ought to be shared early.

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alban case is a distraction

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well regardless of claims I'm roleblocking rc tonight (not a fake claim)

Let's hurry up and get this day over with.

this would be a really dumb thing to do

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I will admit I've been a bit lazy the last few days planning to fix that soon (holiday's are fun right guys)
UNVOTE:
I'll take a bit more of a look at Pere my vote shouldn't be there atm

yes it should

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Yall fucks discredited my Drealmerz7 push even though he's still 100% scum here so I'm lynching my next best scumread.

If we want to flip guaranteed scum I am happy to go back over to Drealmerz7.

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if you flip scum?

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Dreal vs rc is stupid.
Stop cluttering up the thread with it

Fire this is exactly how you tend to react when I push on your scumpartners.

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VOTE: Firebringer

this is scum.

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Fire's scum guys. =]

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I'm not having a temper tantrum whatsoever and dragging the game into drama is exactly how he dealt with me when he was scum the last two times.

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Okay that's fine Pere is probably still scum but Fire dies firs.t

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fuck no

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That's how I see it. What are the town reasons for you leaving a sure lynch of someone you call sure scum? Why would you ever move off a sure SRs wagon when it's L1 if you are town? Simple answer is you wouldn't. Ever.

I have done this so many times that it's hardly worth discussing

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I don't need to provide examples of something that literally every player with any history playing with me can tell you I do.

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Tywin if I were scum you'd be my bitch ok

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VOTE: Radiantcowbells

lynch me. I call next two lynches.

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I can't beat the amount of unchecked discrediting being thrown at my slot without a flip but I know two scum for 100%.

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then vote me

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does it involve dayvigging fire/drealmerz7

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forgive me if I don't trust your reads on either

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lol tywin please stop townbearding it up

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VOTE: Drealmerz7

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yeah your gf told me

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If 2/3 of Drealmerz7/Fire/PeregrineV are scum who is the town in the 3

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VOTE: Drealmerzy7

nahhhh

like if there's only one scum it's Drealmerz

if there's two scum it's Drealmerz7/Fire or Drealmerz7/Peregrine

like drealmerz7 is always scum here

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I've sick of saying both RC/Dreal are town and am close to policy lynching just so we can wake up and move on with the game like dear god people

I would love this.

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KILL FUCKING DREALMERZ7

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Actually, RC, you can answer that too.

I would proxy my vote to Farside and I townread Alban so.

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Firebringer what are your thoughts on 738 after the game with Aneninen?

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rawr i am gawd

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I really think Drealmerz7 is scum her.e

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we're only lynching drealmerz7 today

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there are town who being really fucking dumb and there are scum using it as an excuse to keep their partner alive.

drealmerz7 would have been long dead by now if there was any scum support for his wagon and that's just facts.

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like this isn't an 100% read for me but the alternatives all fucking blow besides people who aren't getting wagoned

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only my vote i'm pretty sure

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me and fire

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just do it dont let ur dreams be dreams

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Oh yeah and

WHOEVER GETS THE ITEM USES IT TOMORROW. WE ARE NOT LETTING IT BE BROUGHT TO LATEGAME.

WHOEVER HAMMERS THE LYNCH GETS BROUGHT TO L-0 TOMORROW WHETHER THEY USED IT OR NOT SO FUCKING USE IT.

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I will policy lynch you tomorrow if you attempt to do that.

I'm not risking scum getting to lylo with it.

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They're just scum. Also if you don't use it I will lynch you.

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farside's town alban's town drealmerz7 is scum

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me like

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well i think ur scum so

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always?

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Idk fire this game looks kinda like you're voting someone for the sake of voting someone

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Drealmerz7 is scum and needs to die and its really fucking dumb that you think that he would still be alive as town

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revote Drealmerz7

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scum are clearly avoiding your wagon but luckily this lobby's a bunch of braindead fucks who think that their reads are on par with mine

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I am never going to vote beside Drealmerz7 and I learn everyone who targetted me if I am saved from a nightkill.

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RC, are you seriously willing to risk a no lynch because we can't get enough votes onto a singular target?

We are having a hard enough time getting someone to L-4 even.

yes.

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ANother way of asking: are YOU guys willing to risk a no lynch by not following me on Drealmerz7?

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Takes two to tango here and at least I have a reputation for consistency to back me up.

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ANother way of asking: are YOU guys willing to risk a no lynch by not following me on Drealmerz7?

this mentality needs to stop, seriously

ari, this is scum RC because RC is always scum, he plays his scum game as town to serve his scum game so that when he rolls scum he can better manipulate the gamestate and gives no fucks about actually ever playing pro-town

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah a lot of people have said that but the opposite is actually true

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If you guys think that scum forces a NL here rather than lynching town then you're insane.

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lol yeah ur my only chance to secure a mislynch baby!

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Largest wagon currently in this game is Drealmerz7.

Should vote that and prevent a no lynch =]

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I was roleblocked.

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why would you claim that, RC?

if you are actuallytown, you just told scum that you have a performable night action, rather than letting them sit there and wonder if they wasted a RB on a vanilla

it makes zero sense to me, so, tell me, why would you claim that?

Reasons.

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Just want to point out that I scumread the shit out of Firebringer and I tracked Edosurist

Drealmerz7 was my only wrong scumread.

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Its ok I love you as a friend

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wheme was obvtown but a lot of weak town so

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ok