We've got our own little hangout, sorry.In post 29, Spiffeh wrote:hi I'm bored someone come hang out with me
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Well we certainly have something which could make us honorary scum...In post 31, Spiffeh wrote:I predict the scum will be camn, NoticeMeSenpai, and Prism-
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VOTE: SpiffehIn post 42, Spiffeh wrote:Well you posted the lyrics of a terrible song
YOU TAKE THAT BACK-
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Is your third member KMD?In post 50, Ginngie wrote:
Spiffeh and I are scum again, chainsaw vroom vroomIn post 49, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:
VOTE: SpiffehIn post 42, Spiffeh wrote:Well you posted the lyrics of a terrible song
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It's not really bad so much as it is something which has a reputation I'm poking fun of.In post 51, Heartless wrote:if it's that bad is there a reason you're not just claiming it?
I'll explain when I claim but right now there's literally only one possible role in existence which would warrant us claiming, so. Unless I see that role claiming neither will I, short of danger necessitating it.-
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Let me consult my magic 8 ball.In post 54, Ginngie wrote:so am I town yet or shall I waste more time?
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Well this is problematic.
I have an answer: "MY REPLY IS NO".
The question I had in my head which I actually asked was "is Ginngie scum?", yet you asked if you were town yet, and I'm not sure if the magic 8 ball was responding to your original inquiry or to MY inquiry.
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YARLY.In post 55, camn wrote:
orly?In post 47, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:We've got our own little hangout, sorry.
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One should not confuse being cheeky and fencesitting with scumfuckery. The two are very different artforms.In post 59, Ginngie wrote:You fence sitting little scumfuck! >_>
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When the magic 8 ball tells me alignments, sure. It says camn's town and it gave me a result on you but I'm not sure which question to use as the key to read it.In post 63, Ginngie wrote:So you can read camn faster than me-
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You uh.In post 66, Prism wrote:Specifically, use of "I" language really makes me doubt that it's either well thoughtout or discussed.
Youdoknow who's in this hydra, right?
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With good reason. You'll understand when we do choose to claim. But I've already accomplished what I set out to do.In post 72, Prism wrote:I'd expect you to either readily come out with it to begin with or to have discussed exactly how the early claim will go, and neither of those things seems to have happened.
If you think the claim is scum, run us up and force a fullclaim. (You won't be happy when you do tho, though at least you'll have perfect understanding of why I said what I did.)
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In post 193, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:camn
Imperium
Polar Vortex
Ginngie
Prism
VNB National Plan
Ahsoka Tano
MaxwellPuckett
Heartless
Caryatid
Kmd4390
Spiffeh
Woodcutter power activate, turbolynch Spiffeh?In post 216, Ginngie wrote:Polar/Spiff/Heartless-
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Hey Ginngie thanks for this!In post 301, Ginngie wrote:town-camn, IMperium, mastina, Caryatid, Prism, Heartless
scum-Polar Vortex, KMD, Ahsoka Tano, Maxwell, Spiffeh
So you see.
I was going to make a post. And say that "I don't have anything directly related to recent events to make me say this, but", but. Now that you've given me that. I actually AM going to say something which is directly related to recent events! Which is more convenient.
But basically.
I honestly think that we may be dealing with a Heartless-Spiffeh scumteam, wildcards KMD/Caryatid for the third slot...and a very, very strong lean towards said third being KMD.
You're clearing Heartless but I really don't think you should be. Heartless's posts are just coming across as empty. Their posting pattern is even what I'd expect from them as scum: Antihero coming into the game, yet having TTH take the charge since Anti sucks as scum (more or less anyway) and TTH prefers being scum. In this game, Antihero's in the back seat. Even when he was posting, his posting was timid, his posting was a bit reserved, his posting was relying on a crutch in the form of TTH. And now TTH comes forward and is pushing things which just don't seem town to me at all.
In every game I've had with Heartless, I've been able to lock them down as being town. (Or close enough, anyway.) But here there's just. There's nothing which is town. Heartless is always town when town yet here. Here I'm not seeing the town. And then there's the whole defense of Spiffeh.
And Spiffeh just.
Spiffeh just is scum.
You know those scumreads you get which you don't have the words for and yet are immensely strong?
It's one of those.
Spiffeh is just scum.
On every level.
And I legit.
Genuinely.
Think.
The scum are in a panic about Spiffeh being run up so early.
And them being powerless to stop it.
I'm absolutely terrified that the wagon will go away.
That someone will stupidly unvote for some frivolous reason. "Oh don't want Spiffeh to self-hammer". "It's too early to end the day". "Wait, hold on a sec, I think Spiffeh's town". "That claim seems town enough". "That claim buys him a day at minimum". Or any number of similar stock phrases. You get the idea there, right? I'm terrified someone will let the wagon we have fall apart. That it won't go through, that people will back down from it...
...When wehavescum, dead to their rights, right in front of us in the here and now.
We also have a townbloc formed. Maybe not as strong of one as in, say, camn's revenge, but a strong start nonetheless. (For starters, camn/you/Imperium/us, just off the top of my head. There's probably more we can mostly or even universally agree upon but four isn't too shabby a start!) And that is something that scum can't break if we don't let them.
So let's not have a BTD6 mislynch this game.
Because Spiffeh is Secret Agent Jin/Katsuki. We might not have perfect agreement on the scumreads from there. If I survive the night then I can probably elaborate on my stances more elsewhere as necessary. But you have to fucking PROMISE me to not let Spiffeh escape our sights right here and now. No excuse, nothing, never unvote him, because we HAVE him.-
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Also for the record.
On the one hand.
Ikinda sortavaguely get the scumread on Ahsoka Tano and in fact to some extent saw it myself even without prompting.
But on the other hand.
I just actually really don't get the scumread on Ahsoka Tano at the same time?
Like.
I'm not sure how to explain that.
How I both get the scumread, yet don't understand it.
It's kinda I guess...I see the reason for suspicions, but I just really don't see the merit in them whatsoever? They seem blown widely out of proportion--that there may be stuff to dislike but overall Ahsoka Tano just feels town.-
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Not exactly. It's more.In post 310, Heartless wrote:You think me being on for one evening is me "taking charge"?
There's a certain aura you and Anti have when you're town.
A dynamic where you just have this magical balance.
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It's not disturbing when you think about the players we've got.In post 316, Prism wrote:the rush to "Hey everyone let's remake the camn's revenge townbloc!" with close to 0 vetting is disturbing.
I considered waiting on posting this but eh might as well post it now.
Imperium is town because this is their towngame, period. I can describe this if I'm forced to I guess, but it's just really really really obvious. I know Tammycho. And I know when they aren't scum and this game they just aren't scum.
Ginngie is town because I'm almost certain this is Ginngie's towngame. There's a life to it, there's the level of troll and yet playfulness and yet content and also drive that I'd expect plus what she's actually contributed is just spot on what Ginngie as town would create. What she's doing is exactly what she first did to get me my first townread on her in camn's revenge, essentially. This isn't something she can fake as scum.
Prism's posting bleeds town at every point. Every engagement, I just keep on seeing Prism as being town.
Ahsoka Tano is honestly one of my stronger townreads. I just really don't get why anyone could think Ahsoka Tano is actually scum when this just isn't scumplay. Not even remotely in any way, shape, or form.
Polar Vortex is a harder townread for me to explain but is indeed a townread. If you asked me to I could justify why they're so high in my readslist but they're just not someone I'd expect to be scum right now.
That narrows down our options quite a lot.
VNB National Plan is more of a null read.
MaxwellPuckett is also more of a null read.
Caryatid is an iffy read. I wasn't too fond of Caryatid's entrance and later content does little to reassure me. That being said, while their content isn't great, it's also not so terrible as to make me hate it. While I don't like it, I also don't distinctly think it's scum, so much as I think it's "possible scum but not most likely scum".
Kmd4390's posting is off-putting. The KMD I know is a player who I easily synergize with. I instantly get what KMD is doing. I instantly get where KMD is coming from. I know what KMD is doing, and I almost always agree with it. I might not have a carbon copy of KMD's reads, but I will have the same basis as KMD for my reads and yet here KMD is just off in a world which is entirely alien to me.
Heartless I've explained my stance on already. Their posting is hollow, artificial. It lacks the strength, it lacks the drive, they should have as town. There's also a lack of whimsy. Antihero in particular is a jokester. Where's the humor? Where's the witty banter? Where's the snide remarks? Where's the snarky dialog? Where's the lightheartedness? They're just so serious. So focused. So direct. So...so unlike everything I know their towngame to be. And their stances are terrible, too. When Heartless is town they have reads I can synergize well with. What they say, what they do, it makes sense. Here, there stances do not.
Spiffeh is just scum. Everything there is scum. E v e r y t h i n g. I could maybe vocalize this read if I put some severe effort into it. But dead serious, it'd be easier to list the things which aren't scum than to list the things which are. There's just nothing town in his approach this game. There's nothing town in his content. His contribution is flat. His entrance is empty. He's doing fuckall of nothing. He's just active lurking essentially. He's not scumhunting. He's not being helpful. He's just. There. Sticking out like a sore thumb. And even this fails to so much as remotely capture the essence of just why he is scum.-
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I can trust this.In post 322, Ginngie wrote:mastina babe, Cary ain't scum, Cary she cares too much.
~Trust in the obscurity that is a Ginngie townread~
Especially since it is something I want to trust!
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I can get behind that deal.In post 326, Ginngie wrote:
I'll trade you a heartless read for a Cary readIn post 324, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:But in exchange I do want you to trust me in whatever reads of mine you most doubt.-
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No and I don't particularly care either.
I am town, I am never being mislynched, the scum may or may not nightkill me depending on whether they feel I am a respectable threat but if they do let me live they'll quickly regret it.-
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Not gonna happen. Jae's stance on this game is, and I quote: "These sure are words." Jae'd be able to tell you the full quote, but that was the part I remembered clearly. Jae doesn't have any stances and doesn't look like they will be getting any any time soon. They're here for moral support and if they do get reads will likely become more involved but right now they have nothing and that's not changing any time soon so you'll have to live with me.In post 345, VNB National Plan wrote:NoticeMeSempai: Please get Jaereed on the line.-
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In post 369, Ginngie wrote:We need heart emojis/thumbs up and down emojis/MOAR EMOJIS
(That's the mafiascum size for emojis, 15x15. I didn't bother getting better yellow coloring but close enough. )
~ Oh my god. Gross! ~Last edited by nancy on Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.-
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HEY.In post 375, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:In post 369, Ginngie wrote:We need heart emojis/thumbs up and down emojis/MOAR EMOJIS
(That's the mafiascum size for emojis, 15x15. I didn't bother getting better yellow coloring but close enough. )
~ Oh my god. Gross! ~
I PUT AT LEAST FIVE MINUTES OF EFFORT INTO EACH OF THOSE YOU MEANIE.-
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Embrace your status!
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What the fuck happened in this ga--
...Oh.In post 452, Ginngie wrote:>opens mafiascum in new tab
>sees unread posts in nancy's game
>reads spiff's latest postings
>swipes left
Okay then.
I mean.
Right now I'm reading everything being posted and I'm like.
Going.
"Why am I doing this?"
Because it's doing nothing to change anything. There's not really anything I feel like commenting on either.
It's not quite pointless; it's showing how much of an absolute scumfuck Spiffeh is with his stances and how much Ginngie bleeds town so.In post 541, VNB National Plan wrote:Oh my god, you're arguing over mastina's motives in another game. I'm both fascinated and horrified at how pointless this is.
Productivity!
This is literally the way you push people as scum which you never do as town!In post 559, Spiffeh wrote:Anti what are your thoughts on my point re: Ginngie?-
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Sure it is.In post 720, Imperium wrote:Also the weird posting is my band aid not my drunk posting!
We believe ya.
rwar?In post 734, Ginngie wrote:rawr
Same except substitute 'all' with 'maybe one tenth if that'.In post 772, Ginngie wrote:I literally read all of this last night.
and I can't remember reading a damn word here-
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Yo.
Not here.
Like really really really not here.
I mean Jae's not in this game at all and hasn't been from the getgo.
But now I who was in the game am not in it.
We don't need to replace out but I do need about a day (real life time) to get my grounding again so this is an elaborately-worded prod-dodge.-
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Oh. Well then. I could obviously be wrong here but I believe I do in fact know who you are now! Hi! <3In post 795, Caryatid wrote:drew them because couldn't words and sometimes when i can't words i can scumhunt in a different way.
(Yes, this is me. Only just now. Figuring it out.)
RE: you having concerns on my reads, even knowing who you are I must apologize, I still don't understand what your issue with them was.-
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Because people are awesome and you don't want to lynch awesome people.In post 803, Ginngie wrote:I'm gonna get bitched at for it but why am I town reading scum hunting using drawings
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You'd be surprised how much I do this too.In post 806, Ginngie wrote:Dont tell anyone, but half the shit I do I just wing it and then make it sound like I planned it all along
I mean.
I always have a plan.
Always.
But like.
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I mean as far as scum votes go there are very few ones you could make worse than this.
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If by cute you mean cheeky scumfuck then yes.In post 837, camn wrote:ur cute when you are agro.-
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I approve so long as it is on Spiffeh!In post 866, camn wrote:I want a bigger, more angry wagon.-
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^.In post 876, Ginngie wrote:All I see is trying to fight every single vote on him, try to get one of them scum read, use that to say it's a scum pushed wagon, ergo he's town, and then is no longer today's lynch. He seriously hasn't spent any time sorting other slots, just attacks on the 3 of Imperium, camn and myself over and over-
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It is. He feels caught for the wrong reasons. I know I am stubborn town. I know Ginngie is supporting me and she's a disciple of mine so can be plenty stubborn. And you're a little stubborn too. So he's fighting a wagon he knows contains people he thinks are voting him for shitty reasons. This doesn't change regardless of his alignment, so his frustration is genuine regardless of his alignment. But he's just scum.In post 882, camn wrote:Like, his frustration is palpable. I almost feel bad for him. Is it because he is caught scum?-
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No you have every right to be considering how beautiful it is. <3
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*points to Spiffeh's Paragon of Mafia Hunters banner*In post 907, camn wrote:BUT, to be fair...plenty of Townies ad-hom thier wagons to death, too.
Let me ask ya.
You think that's a player who ad homs their wagon to death?-
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Ginngie no.
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Yeah KMD can be scum for this.In post 945, Kmd4390 wrote:my personal experience with mastina in WWF mafia where I was scum and mastina had me as such a strong town read that I constantly was referred to as a "mason buddy".
Everyonewas scum in WWF.
Including me.
Including KMD.
KMD was solo-scum though. A serial killer. All of KMD's reads were genuine, and that's why we were working well together. Though, me calling KMD my mason-buddy was actually me specifically as scumbuddying KMD.
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Because I am the player being talked about.In post 951, Kmd4390 wrote:I know you said before that Spiff is a read you can't really explain, but can you explain what you saw in their exchange that gave you that impression? Because I had the opposite view from reading that.
Ginngie was 100% right about everything she was saying RE: me.
Spiffeh was mostly wrong about everything he was saying RE: me.
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This wagon is bad, and you should feel bad. Except scum, they're okay except that they're bad just in a different way.
This wagon is scum, and you should feel proud for being scum.camn (2)~ Ahsoka Tano, Spiffeh-
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This is scum, but I'm having difficulty with words describing why.In post 987, Spiffeh wrote:Gin what was your reason for leaving my wagon and going elsewhere?-
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Yeah just fuck you regardless of your alignment for that.In post 990, Spiffeh wrote:The more absent mastina is the more likely it is that she is scum
This is a fucking low-blow if you're scum.
It is flat-out unacceptable for you to make that comment as town.
It's vaguely pursuing your wincon as scum, yes, I get that. But even there it's still a fucking low blow so just fuck you.-
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Ginngie.In post 991, Ginngie wrote:
I actually agree with you on thisIn post 990, Spiffeh wrote:The more absent mastina is the more likely it is that she is scum
Fuck off.
You know better than that.
I don't want to give negative words to a friend.
So don't make me.
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Because camn is my mason buddy, duh.In post 999, Spiffeh wrote:I don't really see any reason people are town reading camn other than meta reasons (which I can't relate to) and her "early content" which I don't really understand when looking at it.
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This is scum wanting to stay off of the lynch.In post 1004, Spiffeh wrote:I agree Ahsoka Tano is scummy and worthy of being run up but I'm not gonna take someone's word for it that their original account makes them like 20 times scummier when I can't verify myself
Regardless of Ahsoka Tano's alignment.
This is scum.
If Ahsoka Tano is scum this is scum wanting to avoid lynching their scum partner with a pointless bus.
If Ahsoka Tano is town this is scum wanting to get some cheap towncred for white knighting the mislynch bait and also avoid the suspicion of the mislynch wagon.
Either way this is just not town.-
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I KNOW RITEIn post 1011, Heartless wrote:btw i figured out who you are and i feel stupid it took me this long-
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I don't remember where or why I got this impression but somewhere I did?In post 1018, Imperium wrote:Why do you think this?-
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M A S O N B U D D Y.In post 1043, Imperium wrote:
Why did you think that Heartless should consider mastina as scum while you weren't?In post 436, camn wrote:I obviously don't. But YOU should, no?
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So I put this in the PT right now for my partner who in theory would read it, but I feel like I might as well share it now in spite of me not yet being caught up.
RE: my reads/contribution.
In some games, you have trouble doing anything. You are out of it, you have nothing, you are struggling every step of the way. It's shitty but it is what it is and nothing can fix it except time and luck and events happening in-thread which trigger motivation. When I think of this type of game I think "I can't do anything and I don't know why I can't do anything but I can't do anythiiiiiiiiiiiing". This isn't this game because I've done something. Okay so it's that type of game for JaeReed (<3), but it's not that type of game for ME. (Somewhere down the line somehow I'll figure out a way to get them back in the game. I kinda suck at it tho. Jae got me back into the game when I got out of it in For Us, but I don't know how to return the favor.)
Most games, you instead get a mold more akin to "do stuff, change as new stuff comes in, repeat ad naseum" (I think that's the right term): you get reads, you fade in and out, and those reads constantly change. There's a progression in reads as things unfold and new information comes in. Yet this is not one of those games.
Why is it not one of those games?
Because for better or for worse this game is a rare third type of game for me.
What is that game?
The game where you get something, and...
...Nothing really changes?
Like.
Some things change.
Caryatid more town for instance.
But mostly by and large my reads remain the same and nothing is changing because nothing about them has changed? They felt good. They STILL feel good.
I could talk about my reads and the nuances in them. Yet mostly they haven't changed...and I feel strongly. People rightly so seem to assume that static reads are a bad thing. YES, they are often a sign of scum. YES, they are often a sign of confirmation biased town if not scum. YES, they are a sign of town whose reads haven't evolved. But honestly. I can't explain to you why. But I have zero fucking problem with my lack of read evolution this game. The exact strength of my reads may vary but the overall feel, the overall flow of them remains mostly the same.that's not a bad thing
And that just feels right. I don't feel guilty for having the same reads. I don't feel like I should be ostracized. I don't feelwrongto be having the feelings I do, the same feelings I had at gamestart. Because to me I feel like in spite of all the content since then. Essentially, effectively. Nothing has really, truly changed at all. I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry about that. I stand by my reads. Because I still believe in them. And I feel like I have EVERY reason to still believe in them.-
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