Mini 1942 - Switchboard 2 [Game Over]

[Chickadee]

quack

If it sounds like a duck....

[Chickadee]

Hey Key!

VOTE: keychain

I'm town here too. FYI

[Chickadee]

Curious, did anyone play the first game?

[Chickadee]

Actually VOTE: Chick you can find that question out for yourself. Trying to look helpful?

Nope. Just feeling lazy. Trying to look unhelpful?

[Chickadee]

Yea, I'm against this. Scum can pick off higher priorities. It just gives them more information.

[Chickadee]

Okay, I understand your concerns, but hear me out.

The analyst sees EVERYTHING (regarding the switches anyway).
By claiming our priorities now, scum has no opportunity to lie.
That means scummy toggle behavior (i;e switching off a claimed JK) cannot be done anonymously. Scum then has to choose between trying to give them a night advantage, or not being found out immediately.

Of course, this also means that the analyst should not claim until the last possible moment. And that special care should be taken to ensure that the rolecop remains OFF. Forever.

The analyst can see EVERYTHING once, in the entire game.

[Chickadee]

I won't deny that. I just don't think our best move is to let them know who the top priority players are. It puts our PR's at risk. By keeping it hidden, it lets appropriate town players (read: vanilla) try and draw the night kills. Knowing the priority numbers, scum can just start picking off people higher than them until they have the upper hand.

[Chickadee]

Is this just me or is that mafia has no kill? I control-F the first page and I can't find the word kill

I just looked at the role PMs for scum and couldn't find anything about a factional kill. Surely thats not right?

@mod Scum has a night kill, yes?

[Chickadee]

I won't deny that. I just don't think our best move is to let them know who the top priority players are. It puts our PR's at risk. By keeping it hidden, it lets appropriate town players (read: vanilla) try and draw the night kills. Knowing the priority numbers, scum can just start picking off people higher than them until they have the upper hand.

Priority numbers don't correlate with PRs though.
If anything, I'd expect more PRs in the low priority for balance purposes, but that's purely speculation.

And while you're right in that scum may try to pick off the high priorities.... We've got a Tracker, Watcher, and JK here. With even a single one of them turned on scum's gonna have problems not being caught if they go that route.

I believe this is a low risk high reward scenario for Town.
Only scum should be scared

I never said they correlated. But if scum just picks off people above their highest priority, they can start turning off roles and agin the upper hand.

[Chickadee]

I'm still curious about the scum night kill, but Realeo, what prompted you to look for that?

[Chickadee]

I would imagine that for balance, scum are probably scattered a bit? Probably not anything too high though. Maybe mid - low range? It seems unbalanced for scum to have a high priority.

[Chickadee]

Priority levels will be distributed semi-randomly, with some predetermined criteria effecting distribution.

Semi-randomly

[Chickadee]

Would it be better to instead come up with a rating system if we think knowing the toggling numbers is worthwhile? like high. mid. low.

1-4 high
58 mid
9 - 13 low

That seems like it would give scum the advantage of knowing who they need to get out of the way, but without giving the analyst the ability to know exactly who is doing what by being able to identify priority numbers as particular players. Like... defeating the point of the strategy.



Also I think I'm mixed up. I thought having a high priority number (eg. 1, 2) would mean that the action would be executed first in a sequence, and would therefore be less valuable?
Though I suppose it makes more sense for it to be "in any group of actions, the highest priority one is used".

If multiple people target the same person, the higher priority number takes precedent. 1 being the highest priority.

[Chickadee]

Priority levels range from 1 to 13, with 1 being the highest and 13 the lowest.

It's my understanding that regardless of how many people target the same person, the highest priority will take effect. That's the whole point of the priorities.

[Chickadee]

Moza, Keychain is fairly new. She's finding her bearings. I still have her as null, but I really think we need to give her time to develop to better read her.

My last experience playing with her seems similar to the experience you're having now. If she is town, and she can point herself in the right direction, she'll be great. She really has potential. If she's scum, I think we'll see it fairly soon.

[Chickadee]

Fair. I just feel like knowing she's new should give you some perspective into how and why she plays the way she does.

[Chickadee]

Questions to anyone,

Mod too

, who may know the answer to these:

1) Can players toggle AND perform actions in the same night?

yes

2) Can a player toggle their own switch?

I don't see why you can't target yourself

EX. If player X is the roleblocker and he/she begins the game switched off....N1 could player X say Toggle:On player X and in the same night then roleblock another player (depending on the answer to question 1)

3) Are there any duplicates of priority numbers or does everyone have a unique number between 1-13? I assume everyone is unique.

Everyone has a unique number

Also...while I'm typically against early (D1 or D2) unnecessary claims, is there any reason not to full claim out of the starting block?

If we are assuming the roles listed are all in the game...then we could reduce our scum pool to 3 out of 7 (barring counterclaims which would be great on D1 as well). 3 out of 7 sounds much better than 3 out of 13 and it also prevents the claimed PRs from targeting each other. Instead focusing their abilities on the smaller pool of scum candidates.

Putting this out there for dicussion....so please don't jump to claim a PR unless a consensus thinks it's a good idea.

And the claims could just be generic such as "I'm a town PR" to make it a little more difficult for scum to nk specific PRs.

Answers in red.


Also, I'm gonna need everyone to stop trying to give away information. Just because its an open set up does not mean we need to give out all our information on the front end. Power roles are not claiming. We should not reveal our priority numbers right away. And we're definitely not planning out who to toggle at night. All any of this does is give scum information.

[Chickadee]

If we work together as a town, it's not so random and blind.

[Chickadee]

It's been gone over. It's in the PMs. Oh my god, it's like no one is reading the information given to us.

from the role pms:

Switch Ability [Jailkeeper]: You may target a player to be jailkept, which simultaneously protects and roleblocks that player for that Night. Your roleblock does not affect switch alterations.

Switch Ability [Roleblocker]: You may target a player, thus causing any attempted actions by this player this Night to fail. They will not be informed in any way that they were roleblocked. Your roleblock will not affect switch alteration attempts.

Please everyone go read the mod posts. There is a wealth of information there.

And lets stop with the setup spec, and play the game of mafia.

[Chickadee]

vote chickadee

Felt like there was some rolefishing earlier in post 46, and post 71 felt off to me.

I don't even know how you could logically make it to this train of thought.

[Chickadee]

So care to remove that vote now?

[Chickadee]

Have you played with this player when they've been town and scum?

No, but I spent a whole game hard scum reading her when she was town. We were both town, and both just tunneled on each other.

Would you not agree that speculating about the setup is part of the game, and that furthermore people's stances and their justification for them on issues such as revealing information may contribute towards scumhunting?

If this is the case then why would you want to stifle such discussion?

All we're doing is giving scum more information when we start speculating and outing information. I can see how people would come to these conclusions, but it's not helpful to town.

And no, I would not say that setup speculation is necessarily part of the game. It's a social deduction game. Deduce, socially. Everyone now-a-days just wants to come in, break the set up and rig the game. And thats why towns suck on this site. No one actually wants to play mafia. Everyone just wants to be a quarterback.

[Chickadee]

And I would argue that I'm nit stifling discussion. I'm trying to get y'all to actually look at player interactions and what people are saying.

[Chickadee]

And I would argue that I'm nit stifling discussion. I'm trying to get y'all to actually look at player interactions and what people are saying.

If somebody comes in with a poorly thought out idea that you feel would help scum, would you peg them as being more likely scum for it?

Maybe? That seems like sloppy scum play. And I would interact first before making up my mind.

[Chickadee]

Here's the thing guys. If we all claim, power roles die at night. They're the targets. Because scum is def claiming VT. And they're not gonna be killing in the vanilla pool and narrowing down exposing themselves. So we can move in now. We can consider claiming later in the game. We're not claiming D1.

[Chickadee]

So I just ran some math and I realized that two mafia CC-ing is actually the optimal move for mafia.

If two mafia CC-ing, we are scumhutin' in 9 people pool (4 confirmed town)

It's not exactly that lucrative so I would back down a little bit from proposing this offer, but I still think it's good.

Thank you.

Thank you for giving scum an idea.

Rule 1, don't help scum. Let them figure out their own best strategy.

[Chickadee]

Chick
are you caught up

Somewhat haphazardly, but yes. Like I've read everything, but I'm completely emotionally/mentally done with all the set up sec and will-we-wont-we nonsense about claiming.

[Chickadee]

This is my 24th post today. Yes, I need to cool down. Go into the mafia discussion threads. You'll find a number of threads with players bitching about ppl who post way to much. I know I'm one of those players who can post overboard at times. This isn't me opening myself up to start lurking. Far from it.

While I really appreciate players being conscious of not spamming the game, you're nowhere near close. You don't even have the highest post count. I do.

When people say they're tired of people spamming games, it's because games are reaching like 20 pages in an hour or 2 and it's impossible to keep up.

[Chickadee]

Aubrey town, inno town

Key town lean

Moza seems sketch, but can't quite put my finger on anything specific. Null scum there.

I need to go back through some things when I have more time. Theres a lot of players I just need more from.






Goodnight everyone

[Chickadee]

Well great mind think alike.

Chickadee triggered me because it seems inconsistent.

At one point, she is risk averse.

At another point, she scold me for screwing my own plan.

But why would a risk averse person be angry for a scrapped risky plan? A risk averse person should be glad for a scrapped risky plan.

What exactly are you referring to here?

[Chickadee]

Have you played with this player when they've been town and scum?

No, but I spent a whole game hard scum reading her when she was town. We were both town, and both just tunneled on each other.

So if you've never seen her scum game, why are you so confident if she's scum that "I think we'll see it fairly soon."

Moza, Keychain is fairly new. She's finding her bearings. I still have her as null, but I really think we need to give her time to develop to better read her.

My last experience playing with her seems similar to the experience you're having now. If she is town, and she can point herself in the right direction, she'll be great. She really has potential. If she's scum, I think we'll see it fairly soon.

Lets call it gut. And the fact that she's new.

Would you not agree that speculating about the setup is part of the game, and that furthermore people's stances and their justification for them on issues such as revealing information may contribute towards scumhunting?

If this is the case then why would you want to stifle such discussion?

All we're doing is giving scum more information when we start speculating and outing information. I can see how people would come to these conclusions, but it's not helpful to town.

And no, I would not say that setup speculation is necessarily part of the game. It's a social deduction game. Deduce, socially. Everyone now-a-days just wants to come in, break the set up and rig the game. And thats why towns suck on this site. No one actually wants to play mafia. Everyone just wants to be a quarterback.

No talking about setup spec when trying to guide switches or discuss a mass claim is critical to ensuring that we aren't just doing things willy nilly and possibly screwing up. Yes there is the danger of giving info to scum, but from my experience a team of a few scum outside the newbie forum usually gets it anyway.

On the flip side, I do get nervous when the majority of the conversation is on setup spec, as it allows scum to hide behind discussing it and not forced to fake game play. I'm a few pages behind but at some point an ISO of each player over the first X pages to see who is doing this may give some clues to who is scum.

And I would argue that I'm nit stifling discussion. I'm trying to get y'all to actually look at player interactions and what people are saying.

I have not seen you point out any player interactions to this point. What have I missed?

Oh, so monkey see monkey do? I suppose telling telling y'all to move on isn't enough.

And setup spec is not helpful when we have 9 pages of it and nothing else.

I'mma just wait til page 20 to catch up proper

Nos

[Chickadee]

@Innocent I would like your reads please.

[Chickadee]

Thia one Chick

So I just ran some math and I realized that two mafia CC-ing is actually the optimal move for mafia.

If two mafia CC-ing, we are scumhutin' in 9 people pool (4 confirmed town)

It's not exactly that lucrative so I would back down a little bit from proposing this offer, but I still think it's good.

Thank you.

Thank you for giving scum an idea.

Rule 1, don't help scum. Let them figure out their own best strategy.

I'm not so much scolding you for screwing your own plan. I'm face palming at you telling mafia their best strategy in a mass claim.

But nice twist you put on my post there.

[Chickadee]

Nos, you should read. There are some good insights in there amongst all the setup spec. And it's not even that long.

I just got home from a long long day, and have another longish day tomorrow. I'll be on tomorrow night. Maybe a bit in the morning, but most likely not. Definitely not long if at all. Tomorrow night is good for me though. Weekends in general are bad for me, since that's when I work. I'm free all week though. I'll catch up a bit better then. I've skimmed everything and know the gist of what's happened in the last page or two.


I have no reason to still be voting Keychain, so
UNVOTE:

[Chickadee]

Moza, I have to agree with what people are pointing out. Your reads look super lazy. And your jump from putting me in town, then null, and now possible scum is an interesting progression to say the least.

You've had a lot of "interesting progressions" this game.

VOTE: Mozamis

[Chickadee]

SOMEONE RING THE OMGUS BELL!

On a serious note, why?

[Chickadee]

Moza seems sketch, but can't quite put my finger on anything specific. Null scum there.

This is the last time I mentioned Moza. So please tell me where my 180 was

[Chickadee]

Ya Rlly.

Why a weird progression is a scummy thing?

Are we reading the same game?

Moza has flipped his opinions around completely multiple times in short time spans with no explanations.

[Chickadee]

Moza seems sketch, but can't quite put my finger on anything specific. Null scum there.

This is the last time I mentioned Moza. So please tell me where my 180 was

Well it's right there! Post 180!

Joking aside, I think there's a misunderstanding.
I'm referring to Moza's 180 on you, not the other way around.

Ah, that makes a lot more sense.

I guess I won't give you any sass.

[Chickadee]

Moza has flipped his opinions around completely multiple times in short time spans with no explanations.

I AM GIVING OUT READS. AND CHANGING MY OPINIONS AS TEH AFCTS CHANGE. YOU MAKE A SCUMMY POST, I CHANGE MY MIND.
I have probably been the most transparent person in this game.
You are either being very dense, or you are scum. What happend to you being really busy at the weekend? And your other reads?

I have been busy all weekend. I worked all day yesterday, and then passed out, and then went to my normal Saturday night thing. And then I worked all day today. So don't use that as a reason to scum read me.

And just because you've given he most reads, does not mean you're town. Your reads are bull. They're made up. They're flimsy as hell.

[Chickadee]

Moza, you're literally scum reading me for being here on a Sunday night when I said I'd be busy on the weekend. How do you possibly justify that?

[Chickadee]

You literally had me in your possible scum pile. And just said you think I'm scum.

[Chickadee]

I have Aubrey, Rat and Key as town. I'll keep Inno in my town lean pile.

Anyone have thoughts on FormerFish? I don't have enough there.

There's not enough on Fitz for me, so I'm not sure where that town read is coming from. Someone care to explain? I'll also go through their ISO. They're been on VLA so I don't really recall much from them.

[Chickadee]

Yea, looking back through, someone is definitely going to have to explain the towered on Fitz.

[Chickadee]

I don't know what to tell you Into. You haven't really left me with questions. You're barking up the wrong tree though.

[Chickadee]

To be fair, there was one question, and I see that, it's just not phrased in a way that elicits an answer. It's worded to be very framey.

[Chickadee]

Moza, I have to agree with what people are pointing out. Your reads look super lazy. And your jump from putting me in town, then null, and now possible scum is an interesting progression to say the least.

You've had a lot of "interesting progressions" this game.

VOTE: Mozamis

Interesting.

[Chickadee]

I have Aubrey, Rat and Key as town. I'll keep Inno in my town lean pile.

Anyone have thoughts on FormerFish? I don't have enough there.

There's not enough on Fitz for me, so I'm not sure where that town read is coming from. Someone care to explain? I'll also go through their ISO. They're been on VLA so I don't really recall much from them.

Why is Key town?

Fitz and Rat were the two most animated as far as pushing thoughts on plans go. It's been said before, I don't see mafia trying to garner that much attention early on. Reason I like Nos too, his early antics were begging for votes, so prob not scum either.

For Key, we can chalk it up to mostly gut. I'm a gut player. That's just something you'll have to get over. But overall, I like that she's looking at multiple angles.

Fitz has 8 posts. The only one that starts to verge on impressive is the one where they break down the math. Not a very impressive move in my book. It takes more than math to win me over.

I don't know what to tell you Into. You haven't really left me with questions. You're barking up the wrong tree though.

"I'm trying to get y'all to actually look at player interactions and what people are saying."

I read this as you saying you were seeing something in the thread but we were all ignoring it due to setup spec/plans. Was this not the case?

I was just emotionally done with set up spec and wanted to move on. Being emotionally done, I was verging on becoming uninvested.

[Chickadee]

Moza, Keychain is fairly new. She's finding her bearings. I still have her as null, but I really think we need to give her time to develop to better read her.

My last experience playing with her seems similar to the experience you're having now. If she is town, and she can point herself in the right direction, she'll be great. She really has potential. If she's scum, I think we'll see it fairly soon.

This is townChick through and through.

I was under the impression you knew what was going on when you made this post. Now you're catching up from the beginning.

Please explain.

Also, we've only played one game, and as you already mentioned, I was scum there. And not even good scum. I replaced into a slot people already locked as scummy.

[Chickadee]

Ah ok, I thought this was a catchup, not a reread.

That makes more sense now.

[Chickadee]

so your reads are formerfish?
quick breakdown, gut reads. So far you've provided a lot of info w/out analysis.

And as for Chick, I'm gonna bung in neutral. She's a pain in the arse, but pain- in- the- arses are so often town. However, i@ve played with her before, and she's good at scum, so she IS capable of this level of involvement.
Likwise wih Nos, rhough gut is tellling me he is town OMGUSing mw. I'm not entirely sure wqhy he doesnt like me, but he votes me inevery game we play. I think it's because i dared to tell him to post more when we were scum together once. My guess is his ego couldmnt handle that, and I'm now on hs blacklist lol
Whatver. He's still prob town tho. If we need an end dfay lurker lynch though, he could be a candidate, since he's a borderline troll.
IAI looks quite good, but he always does, so fuck knows.

You also have only played with me as scum.

[Chickadee]

Nos solid town.

[Chickadee]

Fitz, you've expressed yourself very clearly. It's just not going to happen today. I think Inno has the right idea. Push people that are scummy, and wait to see if there are counterclaims.

[Chickadee]

So, you are your only solid town read?

Counting your posts was not my goal. When I mentioned that it's because people were town reading you and I went back to double check why. The quantity is not so much the reason you're not in my town pile. It's just kind of a fact. The reason you're not in my town pile is because in those limited posts, there's nothing for me to town read you for.

[Chickadee]

Reading back through the Moza stuff, I don't think he's our best lynch today. The reads are still sketchy af, but I think Moza is just a wishy washy player. I don't get the sense that he's looking at anything too critically, but that could just be bad town.

UNVOTE:


Aubrey, rat, key, inno, nos town (to varying degrees)

Undecided on Moz, but not lynching today
Also in ^ pile Realeo

That means my lynch pool is in
FF's replacement
Raya
Fitz
Mjol
Allo

I'm gonna look through those 5 ISO's today. We need to start narrowing this down.

Maybe if we all post our lynch pools we can start to sort together.

[Chickadee]

my lynch pool is in
Fitz
Mjol
Allo

Still need more from Raya, but what's there looks town.
Waiting on a replacement for FF. Would rather not lynch an empty slot, especially when there isn't much to go on for that slot to begin with.


I think ultimately for me today, it comes down to Mjol or Allo, and the majority of people seems to be for Allo. They haven't done much to sway me toward town.
VOTE: Allomancer

[Chickadee]

Hey guys, I've requested replacement. I'm sorry to everyone for this, but I feel like I am having a mental breakdown due to real life issues and trying to keep up and think critically is becoming increasingly difficult.

I don't know if I'll be on site for awhile and this town deserves better than what I can provide right now.

Again, I'm sorry.

We need to give his replacement hell when he replaces in. Role Pm is role pm. Formerfish's repacement is guilty until proved innocent.

wtf Moza

[Chickadee]

I'm scum reading Flub. Their reads on Nos and myself are odd. Moreso the one on Nos. I think everything Nos has done has been town here. And if Flub is scum, I need to see how things unfold but I think I have one of their scum partners.

[Chickadee]

Two of my three suspects are voting my 3rd suspect with two of my townreads. bleh

Seems like a good time to reevaluate then?

[Chickadee]

Intent to hammer Allomancer, upon request from at least two (2) folks on the wagon, or at the 24 hour mark.

I don't have much else to say that hasn't been discussed already.
Though I am townreading Flubber

I don't know how I feel about you wanting our "permission" however I don't really see any other way the day is going to go.

It just seems like you're trying to look town. And that worries me, because I'm already town reading you.

[Chickadee]

UNVOTE:

We have time. I'd like to give this some thought.

[Chickadee]

If it's the ladder go to his ISO and look at his first post where he complains, and then look at the posts where he starting "playing the game" shortly after. Assuming he didn't check the thread at all until being prodded, one would assume he was reading between this time period (in fact it is less than 20, I'm just rounding)

Hence look at his ISO and the time stamps.

VOTE: Allo

Allo's first post is almost 3 days before his second post. So I still don't see wtf you're talking about. And as that seems to be a contributing factor to your Allo suspicions...I want to understand where the "20" minutes is coming from.

All on August 31 (in my own timezone stamps):
5:00 pm - Mod says All has been prodded
6:20pm - "this is a lie!"
6:37pm - responding to game post
6:38pm - responding to game post
Both of which were recent posts. Implying that All is caught up.

[Chickadee]

I believe that's what is being referenced. Aubrey, correct me if I'm wrong.

And it does look damning. If Allo has been following along this whole time, why not post?

[Chickadee]

If Allo doesn't claim in (expired on 2017-09-04 02:35:19) I will hammer. Or someone else can. But a day and a half should be plenty of time to make an appearance.

If he claims VT, we lynch.

[Chickadee]

Realeo: I'm not sure how much I agree with Post 227 as when I first read it, where you suggest Chick should be glad a setup spec plan died the way it did because she doesn't like plans like that, I think this presents a false dichotomy. She may have felt there was potential merit in the plan and wanted to see where it was going to go.

This was half a game ago. Why is it still being talked about? I didn't see any merit in the plan. When this is talked about, 227 keeps being brought up, which completely overlooks 226, where I say Realeo shouldn't have outright told scum their best move. I'm really glad the plan didn't go through. Doesn't change the fact that scum had an idea handed to them.

[Chickadee]

As I said, it's somewhat of a stream of consciousness, me reading things and telling you my thoughts on them. Why are you bothered by what I'm saying though? I'm clearly agreeing with you.

At the same time you're agreeing with me, you're twisting what I was saying. I just want it clear, I didn't see any merit in the plan.

[Chickadee]

I'm inclined to scum red Flub too.

[Chickadee]

As for a CC, we still haven't heard from Mjoll, Fitz, Flub, Inno, and Raya.

Though at this point, it's risky for scum to fake claim, or even fake counter claim. So I'm good with looking elsewhere. We don't have too terribly much time left.

My lynch pool is Fitz, Mjoll, Flub. Might be rethinking Mjol. At the very least, I accept that Mjoll is probably not the lynch today.

VOTE: Fitz

[Chickadee]

Though at this point, it's risky for scum to fake claim,

Not if they are about to be lynched. Eye for an eye. If he is fake claiming, I'd advise the real PR to CC. That's just me though.

Well, yes, I too would advise the real PR to claim. That's why I checked who hasn't come in yet. I wanted everyone to know.

[Chickadee]

I think I'm coming down with a cold. I'm still around, but I'm gonna take it easy the next few days. But deadline is close, so I'm definitely still tuned into the game.

[Chickadee]

I'm not BP either.

Not thrilled how moz ignored all my posts/questions. The fact that it has been near impossible to get his wagon above 3 votes tells me I'm on the right track. Still happy with my vote. Anyone not willing to vote moz I'd like to hear why.

It's not that I'm not willing. I just kind of accepted that it wasn't going to happen today.

[Chickadee]

Is there a reason moz hasn't been run up for 555 alone?

It's directed toward you, so by all means run Moz up if you think that needs to happen.

@Rat, when I was on the wagon, everyone else was looking elsewhere. I also feel I have to take pause, because I've seen mom play exactly like this as town. Granted, I haven't seen his scum game. But still. If there's interest in a Moza wagon, I'll hop back on. Otherwise I've stated my lynch pool.

[Chickadee]

@Rat, when I was on the wagon, everyone else was looking elsewhere. I also feel I have to take pause, because I've seen mom play exactly like this as town. Granted, I haven't seen his scum game. But still. If there's interest in a Moza wagon, I'll hop back on. Otherwise I've stated my lynch pool.

Care if I ask at what point did you realize that his play was reminiscent of a previous game?

It's been crossing my mind the whole time. It's why it took me so long to vote him.

But he's a main wagon, as Nos pointed out. So it might actually happen today.

VOTE: Mozamis

[Chickadee]

because I've seen mom play exactly like this as town.

hey chick, I'm still not your mom! (funny what a combination of havig a female avatar and being older than you does lol)

unvote me please i am town
i

Autocorrect

[Chickadee]

Moza, if you are town here, and the thought has crossed my mind, please be a better town player. The washy reads and flimsy behavior is not town at all. You moved me to a scum pile for being here on a Sunday afternoon. Then moved me back for calling you out. If you are town, I'm not going to be sorry at all, because at best, you're a big distraction for town, by being so anti-town.

And don't assume I don't like you. I actually find you quite funny/amusing.

[Chickadee]

Nos is town here. Not lynching him.

[Chickadee]

Moza, if you are town here, and the thought has crossed my mind, please be a better town player. The washy reads and flimsy behavior is not town at all. You moved me to a scum pile for being here on a Sunday afternoon.

I did that temporarily because you said you were busy ALL weekend. And thn you started posting. Of course i was suspicious. It looked liked you were scum panicing.
But, because i am A GOOD TOWN player, i eva;uated your response, and changed my mind. If i was scum, i probably would have vote parked like IAI (he's been very quiet lol).
I am fed up with this utter nonsense about my reads being "wishy washy" or "sketchy".
I have been, along with Aubrey and Moll, the best town player this game, precisely becaue i am giving out reads, and changing them, or being honest about them.
I can't help if you don't undersand, or are still OMGUSing me for catching you as scum in the last game.
YOU need to be a better town player and be more intelligent/open minded.

The truth is, you aren't very experienced at this game, or you would see there is about a five per cent chance of me being scum.
But you'll vote with your blood not your brain, like most people do. Which is why scum win about 65% of time.
Someone hammer, set me free from playing with dumb asses.

Moza, you have not been good town here. I don't mean it to be insulting, but if you're town, you've made it very easy to scum read you. Just trying to give you some feedback. And while I wouldn't consider myself a great player, I am quite experience at this game. So don't just resort to insults. And I hold no grudges about Breaking Bad. Don't know why you think I would, it was a perfect scum win for me. And I really don't take this game as seriously as you seem to suggest.

[Chickadee]

Am sad now I was only killed for the hider crumb.