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this is a bad voteIn post 68, mozamis wrote:
again, i dont like this, it looks like "shade".In post 45, Keychain wrote:This is a really odd middle ground to take. W
The guy clearly wasnt quite sure what to do, which seems reasonable in a CONFUSING AS HELL game like this lol
Yeah, Keychain can get a vote
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i know i canIn post 250, Aubrey wrote:If a number of us have been able to start generating reads/leans, and been able to pressure one another between the spec talk, I don't see why you can't. You're using the spec talk as an excuse to not put much work into the game.
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Chick holds the same view you do, but that didn't stop her from being an active participant.
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i didnt sign up for 10 pages of setup specIn post 256, mozamis wrote:why sign up to play then?-
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if you're willing to lynch over this, obviously your setup spec hasn't been as important as you'd like to imply.In post 257, Aubrey wrote:Cool. This can get roped.-
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if you think you can actually solve the game with setup spec, and the instant someone says "naw fam" you feel the need to vote them and immediately say they can get roped, evidently there was no reason for me to read since you managed to find a read with a massive dearth of setup spec involved.In post 260, Aubrey wrote:When did I argue or even imply that spec setup was the ideal/important way to approach the game? I've said no such thing.
If you don't like spec set up, that's fine with me. What's not fine with me is when you're doing little to nothing, and using the spec talk as the excuse for why you're just being idle.
I'm not reading, because what I have to read is stupid, and there's no way you can justify not thinking that's a reasonable train of thought.-
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In post 20, mozamis wrote:instinctively, i'm against that. mass claims give scum even more info.In post 21, mozamis wrote:tho mayb ein this case it doesnt matter?
shitty progressionIn post 22, mozamis wrote:i'm priority 4RVS to RVS
personal scumtell but whatever
fos but no vote?In post 67, mozamis wrote:
"jumped" is a scummy, misreppy way of putting it. I in fact i had qualms, as is quite obvious if you look back over it.In post 45, Keychain wrote:I'm not going to claim my priority just yet. I'd rather hash it out first.
The way mozamis jumped to claim before Rat had explained in full was suspicious
I'm not going to claim my priority just yet. I'd rather hash it out first. The way mozamis jumped to claim before Rat had explained in full was suspicious
fos keychain
this is actually the worst vote in gameIn post 68, mozamis wrote:
again, i dont like this, it looks like "shade".In post 45, Keychain wrote:This is a really odd middle ground to take. W
The guy clearly wasnt quite sure what to do, which seems reasonable in a CONFUSING AS HELL game like this lol
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this is actually the single most bullshit read in the entire gameIn post 27, mozamis wrote:
it's so unlikely to come from scum. sure, really clever/confident/gambity scum might try it, but it's really stickin gyour neck out early on, which MOST scum avoid. Plus in this specific case, he seems like he is thinking about the game, "game solving" etcIn post 24, Raya36 wrote:@Moz What about suggesting a mass claim makes you think Radrat is town?
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In post 281, mozamis wrote:Not sure if he is paranoid scum or emotional town.-
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because they're manufactured and fakeIn post 291, Mjollnir wrote: OK, I get what you are saying here, scum sometimes do try and lurk their way through the beginning of a game. However it just seems suspect that all of your scumreads are either perenniel lurkers or players that haven't really posted much and you happen to townread all the big-hitters for mostly fairly incidental reasons.-
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Well I think I've responded to much of what I've cared about these last three pages.In post 279, Mjollnir wrote:Nosferatu:Seeing as we have mostly stopped talking about setup spec, would you be willing to give thoughts on the 3 most recent pages at least? Also what is the benefit of leaving it to Page 20 or so before reading through a game?
Page 20 is a good place to assume that setup spec is over-
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Like this is bullshitIn post 154, mozamis wrote:quick overview/captain obvious.
Less than 10 posts. = Formerfish, Nos, Allomancer, Raya, Havingfitz, keychain, Mollignir.
I'm town readin Raya. Fitz's posts have been chunky (altho lot of spec/logic stuff, but give him a pass for now).
So decent chance of scum in Former, Nos, Allo, keychain, mollignir.
Quite like Keychain's "fuckoff moz, i'm town" approach, quite often a town response.
So scum in Former, Nos, Allo, Mollignir?
(obviously flaw here is that some of these will be town lurkers, but i'd bet anyhting there is one scum in that four)
he's literally just forming his scumteam from post count. Any time some at least moderately starts posting again, he moves them up. He's actually not even trying to make his reads seem real.
excuses for what?Allomancer wrote:Nos is literally just making up excuses at this point.
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lol except I've done all of those things. You're scum too.In post 302, Allomancer wrote:Not playing, not scum hunting, not doing anything!
Mjollnir just asked me why I arbitrarily chose page 20 for when I would catch up. You're literally just making up an excuse to vote me.-
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This is actually one of the most braindead posts I've read in awhile. I don't mean that intelligence-wise, I mean that this is actually the least thought I've seen put into a post.In post 116, Allomancer wrote:Sorry I wasn't able to say anything earlier. I didn't check my email last night and was too busy today to log on.
Anyway, I think we should hold off on the mass-claim. While I understand the logic in 114, I also want to point out that scum has no idea who the PR roles are, so their kills are random, but town can use logic to find out who the scum is, so town voting will not be random. Town has a higher chance of lynching scum than simply random, assuming this town is competent. Also, since PR will claim before lynched, town will most likely not lynch a PR.
???I also want to point out that scum has no idea who the PR roles are, so their kills are random, but town can use logic to find out who the scum is, so town voting will not be random.
This doesn't even make sense. Like scum aren't going to be PR hunting like they do in literally every game? What? What info does either party have that makes their actions inherently random or not? If you're arguing that one party can use logic and the other can't, you're beyond help.
this is just plainly illogicalTown has a higher chance of lynching scum than simply random, assuming this town is competent.
you're also just assuming that we'll believe the claimAlso, since PR will claim before lynched, town will most likely not lynch a PR.
This entire post reads as you just opposing the mass claim because you think it's a townie thing to do or something.
no we don't. scum has to choose. VT's can also fakeclaim as PRs. There's so many variables that you're just willfully excluding.In post 230, Allomancer wrote: You forget that the PRs can actually do stuff. They aren't just figureheads. Yes, scumhunting in 13 ppl is hard, but the JK can try to JK scum. The Tracker and Watcher can also help us get information about who's scum. With a mass-claim, we lose these advantages early on.
In post 234, Allomancer wrote: You do realize that even though you did do something good, you still shouldn't use that as an excuse the help scum, right? To me this seems really suspicious, like you're being deliberately obtuse in order to have an excuse to post that so that you could get a message to your scum partners. VOTE: Realeo-
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there it isIn post 306, mozamis wrote:think this is town nos, hes way more onvolved than whenhe is scum-
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this is less of "why would I do that" and more of a "how did i manage to get caught" kind of deal famIn post 311, mozamis wrote:1) why would i do any of that as scum?-
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In post 325, mozamis wrote: I AM GIVING OUT READS. AND CHANGING MY OPINIONS AS TEH AFCTS CHANGE. YOU MAKE A SCUMMY POST, I CHANGE MY MIND.
I have probably been the most transparent person in this game.
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While weird progression is a scummy thing, its not what moz is doing. Moz's progression is false. Not real. Fabricated. Imagined. An imitation. Artificial. Synthetic. Simulated. Ersatz. Faux. Bogus. Forged. Fraudulent. Inauthentic. Contrived. Spurious.
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In post 338, mozamis wrote:Although maybe you are just thick. A lot of people are. Not Nos though! He knows how to be pleonastic, always a sign of an...average mind. Keep up the googling, Nos!-
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does it not make sense to you that the time you spent with your eyes glazed over was a waste of time?In post 391, Formerfish wrote:Like when I started to read them my brain went numb and next thing i knew i was onto the next post.-
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If I didn't like you I'd just ignore your slot like I do with mollie. The fact that you need to try this hard to discredit my line of reasoning is indicative enough of your alignment.In post 395, mozamis wrote: Likwise wih Nos, rhough gut is tellling me he is town OMGUSing mw. I'm not entirely sure wqhy he doesnt like me, but he votes me inevery game we play. I think it's because i dared to tell him to post more when we were scum together once. My guess is his ego couldmnt handle that, and I'm now on hs blacklist lol
Whatver. He's still prob town tho. If we need an end dfay lurker lynch though, he could be a candidate, since he's a borderline troll.
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I vote you in every game we're in cause one of us is scum in every game we're in.In post 402, mozamis wrote:i'm sure i criticised you for something in the Mafia PT, thats why you dont like me? May have got that wrong. I'm trying to understand why you vote me every game we're in. Onbv you might be scum, but i think you're town OMGUSing. Ah, maybe cos i called you scum early this game?-
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gee i wonder why hes saying scummy thingsIn post 407, Keychain wrote:
?mozamis (about Nos) wrote:He's still prob town tho. If we need an end dfay lurker lynch though, he could be a candidate, since he's a borderline troll.
If we need an end of day "lurker" lynch... we could lynch someone who is probably town... because you don't like how they play. And they also happen to be pushing you. This is such a scummy thing to say.-
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ah yes, the socratic method. Otherwise known to normal people of this site: throwing mud and seeing what sticks.In post 422, mozamis wrote:
socratic methodIn post 420, mozamis wrote:it's like the scoratci method
I don't want a rational debate with you. Hence why I haven't asked you a single question. I want you hung.mozamis wrote:
you gonna engage in rational debate with me and change your mind, or just gonna vote park/mindlessly tunnell/be a dick all game?In post 418, Nosferatu wrote:gee i wonder why hes saying scummy things-
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I am playing the game. My wincon says I've gotta lynch the scum. You're the scum. I see no problems here.In post 428, mozamis wrote:This is what i mean about you trolling.
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no because you're scumreading me and not him.In post 430, Aubrey wrote:Wouldn't I be considered a troll since i'm not engaging in dialog with him?-
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let me get this straightIn post 436, mozamis wrote:
i think he's town, and he thinks i scum, so obv. i want him to change his mind.In post 434, Keychain wrote:I find that trying to convince your scumread that they're scum is pretty futile - why do you want Nos to engage with you?
The guy just wants to troll me and argue the toss with me, since i dared crticise him in a mafia PT once, and he hasnt forgive me for it.
I'm trolling
because I don't want to interact with you
despite the fact that there's actually no reason for me to initiate any sort of questioning with you.
You're pushing the blame on me for this dynamic when it's literally just you. I'm not ignoring you. If you asked me a question I'd respond. But you haven't done that and instead you've chosen this weird thing where you argue that my ego is hurt because you "criticized" me?
I honestly didn't even remember what happened but I mean I looked over it and I don't see why I would be mad of all people?
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[moz was lurking is almost being lynched and starts flurryposting]
Nos: moz why are you flailing
Moz: what im just trying to get fykus lynched
Moz: why are you a fail (It made more sense verbatim)
Nos: you were lurking and then you started spamming under pressure it looks weird
Moz: *rages*
Nos: I've been scumreading you all game I can't just flip that at the turn of the hat; just chill
Nos: I'm not the one about to be lynched so don't start raging <-- I assume this is me being upset
So I'm not really getting whyIam getting mad, so it doesn't feel like a genuine effort from you to understand my mindset. It just feels like you need to find a way to dismiss it, and we had a five minute spat in scumchat that you wanted to twist into me being mad and trolling you for it? I don't know, don't really wanna know either. You're not my audience, idk why you think I should be addressing you in any way. I'm not convincingyouthat you're scum.-
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brilliantIn post 479, Allomancer wrote:This is a lie. I did not receive a prod PM. I call BS on the mod and will not post until I receive a proper prod.
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ive just got that lovable personality!In post 547, Aubrey wrote:If it comes down to Moz or Allo, I'm going after Allo. Don't know why everyone is in love with Nosferatu, but whatever.
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even moz is busing dudeIn post 553, Flubbernugget wrote:VOTE: moz
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"why aren't you trying to scumhunt durr"In post 576, Mjollnir wrote:Nosferatu and Allomancer:Posts 246 & 248 are pretty concerning really, why are you complaining about us setup speccing at this point rather than actually going ahead and trying to scumhunt? Where is your curiosity and your want to actually scumhunt?
why are you creating pages of things i dont want to read? If I'm not reading pages how am I going to scumhunt? If the pages I have to read are uninteresting to me, why would I be curious about them? Like all of your questions are self-answering.
lol he doesn't know what hyperbole isMjollnir wrote:the logic doesn't make any sense as Aubrey at no point was crazy about setup speccing, he's been scumhunting as much as anybody in this game, I cannot tell if this is deliberatly disingenuous or not
no he didn't. He said he didn't think it was the optimal way to play.he said literally the post before that he is not setup speccing and you totally ignored that.
except the bit where I say very explicitly what I'm voting moz for isn't setup spec cause uhhAnd then a couple of posts later you say Mozamis is scum despite the fact you say it's all been setup speccing and there is nothing worth reading in the game
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Is it just dumb luck you called a player scum on a whim and then found you could actually make a reasonable case against him having not been reading the game at all and bragging about it?
Alright James Joyce, I'm gonna need you to rewrite this bit so I can parse it.It's possible sure, you may have simply been cherry-picking all the worst parts of Mozamis' posts and making an ad hoc case on her being scum, is there a reason for you to do this as town
If I'm scum then my scumpost is interesting? Hello?If the latter is true, then Post 268 where you call Mozamis' townread on Rat bullshit is very interesting, as that townread was based on Rat being willing to stick his neck out and be noticed.-
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not everyone has posted post-claimIn post 594, Keychain wrote:Surprising that neither Aubrey nor Nos have unvoted at a claim. If there's a CC, it's easy enough to put a vote back on.
if there's a hammer without a consensus on the validity of the claim they're scum
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I would've had to sift through setup spec for that.In post 614, Mjollnir wrote: Nosferatu, I asked a question to Allomancer I was meant to ask you and it somehow slipped my mind. There had been a fair amount of non-setup speccing content in the game by Page 10, why did you want to avoid reading that? Clearly you must have known it was there, you had to read the game pages after all to know that we had been setup speccing a fair amount.-
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I'm perfectly civilIn post 643, mozamis wrote:i didnt answer IAI's questions because they seemed "lawyer like" i.e bullshit lol i guess when you think someones scum, you don't want to bother.
I'd rather answer questions from town i.e chick, radical. even Nos, if he can be mature enough to be civil.
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no it doesn't. I saw moz scumpost, and then read through his ISO. The thing that lets me read without sifting through setup spec.Well this heavily implies that your initial vote for Mozamis was not on a whim, and you had that evidence already there before you placed that vote down. This therefore would mean that you had in fact been reading through the pages you claimed you hadn't been reading because of all the setup spec!
^ here's me specifically saying his ISOIn post 264, Nosferatu wrote:in the 1 page I've seen of you, you've spent your time asking two loaded questions and I doubt your ISO gets better
I still haven't read those pages between moz's keychain vote and me complaining about setup spec
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???But what's extremely interesting is that once Allomancer became a big wagon, well you immediately stopped digging that tunnel! You suddenly claimed that you were fine with lynching one of the two and put him at L-1.
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I've pretty obviously been reading the game for awhile now buddyTo reference your answers in Post 592, that we were apparently creating pages you can't be arsed to read, well at this point that is surely bollocks. We haven't setup specced for a while now and yet all you've STILL done is tunnel on Mozamis and a bit on Allomancer when he looked viable.-
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