Mini 1955: Perpetual MYLO III - Game Over!

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #605 (isolation #0) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:53 am

1st of all, i'm an alt, if you figure out my main dont mention it *refer to the sig*

2nd of all, im busy atm, but i'll begin reading in a couple hours or so.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #609 (isolation #1) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:43 am

I just read a bit...
what did i replace into...

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #611 (isolation #2) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:11 am

Up to page 7 i think wisdom and maki are town.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #612 (isolation #3) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:12 am

In post 120, Maki Harukawa wrote:
@mod do mafia have daychat?

This looks like a townslip?

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #613 (isolation #4) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:29 am

Up to page 10, will continue after lunch.
Lykan's walls actually do have content and reasoning behind them, i just wish there werent lots of words that seem irrelevant and make it harder to understand.
So Lykan probs town.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #616 (isolation #5) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:21 am

In post 615, DiamondSentinel wrote:
In post 612, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 120, Maki Harukawa wrote:
@mod do mafia have daychat?
This looks like a townslip?
I townread Maki for other reasons, but that really doesn't look like a townslip, considering the rules explicitely state that they do not have daychat (check the Mafia's rolecards).

So?
Has it ever happened to you that you dont read the sample PMs? I know it's happened to me a bunch of times. Maki's reaction afterwards looked natural.

Anyway imma continue reading.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #617 (isolation #6) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:27 am

I immediately regret that...
What in the world am i reading

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #619 (isolation #7) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:42 am

Read up until Page 16.
Highly debating whether i should continue reading or save my own sanity and ask if there's anything of value in there.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #620 (isolation #8) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:44 am

Currently im just tempted to just sheep wisdom or maki and continue forming reads from here.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #622 (isolation #9) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:53 am

In post 621, Maki Harukawa wrote:What makes you tr Wisdom he's a hard slot for me to read and we appear to have a lot of different reads.

years of

torture

playing with him.
What makes you think he's a hard tr for me?

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #624 (isolation #10) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:57 am

In post 623, Maki Harukawa wrote:Umless you were just overexaggerating anyone you're just willing to sheep must be a hard tr.

There's 3 days left in the timer no?

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #625 (isolation #11) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:00 am

but yeah, no wisdom isnt a hard tr, you are a hard tr, but wisdom is wisdom and if whoever he wants to lynch doesnt get lynched he wont ever shut up about it.
Plus i dont have a townread on either of the people you 2 want lynched.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #627 (isolation #12) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:02 am

In post 626, Maki Harukawa wrote:That's plenty time to have your own read and at least state it. Klunk Wicked and Acid one of those are getting lynched most likely I'd suggest looking in that direction for now I am off to lunch

All right i'll ISO them.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #629 (isolation #13) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:20 am

In post 627, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 626, Maki Harukawa wrote:That's plenty time to have your own read and at least state it. Klunk Wicked and Acid one of those are getting lynched most likely I'd suggest looking in that direction for now I am off to lunch
All right i'll ISO them.

Alright, i lied, im pretty bad at gathering reads from ISO, i need interactions.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #632 (isolation #14) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:38 am

In post 630, Lycanfire wrote:one person's posting

one to three actually.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #633 (isolation #15) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:51 am

I predict that Wisdom will scumread me this game sooner or later.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #636 (isolation #16) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:18 am

In post 635, Wisdom wrote:But i scumread wicked more, so sheep me and i might change my mind

"Lynch who i want lynched or ill continue to scumread you"

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #637 (isolation #17) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:26 am

You know, threats like that arent the way to get me to see your lynch as correct, because by default your read on me is wrong as well.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #638 (isolation #18) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:04 pm

mfw just now i realize i read that wrong.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #644 (isolation #19) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:38 pm

ok cool im going to have time to interact with people and possibly consolidate on a lynch with at least 48 hours to spare.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #651 (isolation #20) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:08 pm

I feel like I want to lynch Viomi so i can give Wisdom a reason to scumread me

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #652 (isolation #21) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:27 pm

Actually that's not it.
But i've been trying to unentangle this knot of words of everyone, and figured out that probably my predecessor is the only one i can trust, but my predecessor was... quite peculiar in his way of explaining things, but he seemed pretty sure that acid was scum via meta or something.
Now the next issue i had is if he was just here to troll or was actually serious about it, and well given his reaction when the whole shenanigans that caused him to replace out it makes me think that he wasn't here to troll, tho i dont agree with the way he was pushing acid, but it's literally the only lead i have for now, i figure if he was so sure there must have been a reason for it. Reading ppl just from read back makes it harder for me to actually find alignments, and I need interactions, so i figure this is a good place to start.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #660 (isolation #22) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:39 am

In post 659, Dunnstral wrote:I'm townreading acid, diamond and wisdom both lean scum for me individually

Why? Why? and Why?

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #662 (isolation #23) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:47 am

In post 659, Dunnstral wrote:but I've noted that wisdom has been defending diamond and I'm not sure if diamond has really been acknowledging this? Weird interactions there I think.

This is a good point btw.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #663 (isolation #24) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:52 am

In post 69, DiamondSentinel wrote:
In post 67, Wisdom wrote:Not_Mafia - who
Wisdom
Carcalilly - who
Maki Harukawa - town
Wickedestjr - town
Lycanfire - null
Brian Skies - null
acidphoenix - nulltown
UC Voyager - town
DiamondSentinel - town
Chara - town
kunkstar7 - scummy

#page3reads
Only 1 scum!read? Do you mind elaborating on why you read everyone how you do?

In post 70, Wisdom wrote:gut

In post 71, DiamondSentinel wrote:Eh, can't argue with that.

hmmm, was going through DS's ISO to verify, but i found this.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #664 (isolation #25) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:55 am

Other than that, i dont think DS ever talks about Wisdom's reads.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #665 (isolation #26) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:57 am

For now im leaning town on dunn, but i want him to explain those reads for me.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #667 (isolation #27) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:07 pm

Inb4 by the time this game's over we will have an entirely different playerlist than the one that started it.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #671 (isolation #28) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:32 pm

OMG, it's Sushi!

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #678 (isolation #29) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:56 pm

In post 677, Dunnstral wrote:There isn't really any analysis of play here though, diamond asks wisdom a surface level question, wisdom gives a surface level answer, diamond drops it

Yeah that's the point. I'm agreeing with you here sorry if i didnt make that clear.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #680 (isolation #30) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:00 pm

Is your acid townread from preflip associatives tho?
That's what it feels like to me when you answered my question.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #683 (isolation #31) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:14 pm

In post 682, DiamondSentinel wrote:Why should I care whether a read is gut or not? If someone says "Oh, it's a gut read" either it's a gut read or they're lying, and you won't get anything from them either way.

Huh?

Im fairly sure i've been asked often about where my gut reads from, but it seems like you didnt care.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #687 (isolation #32) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:37 pm

In post 686, DiamondSentinel wrote:Almost all of my reads are gut. I don't understand whatever shitty "logic" the meta propagates, so I just go with what fits the most at the time. If I can't explain my reads, then why should I expect anyone else to?

Ok then, what is your gut currently telling you?

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #692 (isolation #33) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:46 pm

Who said im not contemplating the possibility of the others being scum?
Did you even read what i said before? Im gonna need to question people, to interact, to form reads, the gut thing seemed like a good thing to start up, because i find it odd even as being a gut player myself.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt tho however, because you probably went from a really though momment with those 2 people and you're probably still mad at whatever happened which is making you not think clearly, but when you clear your head i hope you can give me some reads.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #693 (isolation #34) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:47 pm

In post 691, Shuichi Saihara wrote:sorry, i mean where your maki tr comes from.

I explained it earlier i believe?
Maki did a townslip, the way it happened felt too natural for it to happen from a scum PoV trying to gain towncred.

I know it's happened to me before that i dont read sample PMs on games since im already used to everything being the same thing.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #697 (isolation #35) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:55 pm

but yeah DS, sorry, it wasnt my intention to make you feel annoyed

I was just trying to figure out what happened back there because i need interactions to get reads.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #699 (isolation #36) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:56 pm

In post 696, Shuichi Saihara wrote:brian scum, who replaced this?

I think Dunn is that slot right now

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #700 (isolation #37) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:59 pm

Also, no read on Maki?

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #701 (isolation #38) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:00 pm

And i think you also missed not_mafia.
Although I have no idea how to read them.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #707 (isolation #39) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:05 pm

In post 705, DiamondSentinel wrote:Let me check who you replaced in for

UCV

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #711 (isolation #40) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:06 pm

In post 705, DiamondSentinel wrote:Another person hiding behind shitty reasoning and an alt/hydra.

Well I know this isnt directed at me, but seriously, stop it, im trying to read you, but all i get is complaints about the alts and stuff.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #714 (isolation #41) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:09 pm

Ftr, im just using an alt for fun, im not even hiding my playstyle, but ppl that know me enough to read me will be able to figure it out regardless.
I'm sorry about what happened to you, but you're not exactly helping me here and im tempted to think that you're hiding behind this alt hate for some reason.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #715 (isolation #42) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:12 pm

Also these:

In post 705, DiamondSentinel wrote:Wisdom is obviously town, so to say "Oh, I can't read him" is you just being lazy or scum.

In post 712, DiamondSentinel wrote:I can read wisdom like a book. I've been in 4 games with him and have never been wrong, even for a second (and even when we were on competing scumteams).

Kinda dont fit.

You're using the fact that you can read Wisdom as an excuse to scumread shuichi for not being able to read him.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #716 (isolation #43) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:12 pm

Specially with the "Obviously town" part.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #718 (isolation #44) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:13 pm

I mean sure, and good that you can read Wisdom, but wisdom isnt exactly an easy player to read, from personal experience, why would someone being unable to read him be scum OR lazy?

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #720 (isolation #45) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:15 pm

In post 717, DiamondSentinel wrote:Correction: I'm using the fact that he has possibly one legitimate read to scumread him.

Sure, that's what your post implies, but you only say "those reads except chara's are BS" and proceed to complain about the Wisdom read. No comment on the others on how they are bullshit, so im prone to think that the wisdom read (or lack thereof) is what's the crux of your push/read.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #744 (isolation #46) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:03 pm

You really have a hard time making up your mind Dunn.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #745 (isolation #47) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:04 pm

Anyway

@Mod: Vote count please?

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #749 (isolation #48) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:09 pm

In post 746, Maki Harukawa wrote:Diamonds play is stupid but it doesn't make him scum for being cocky and believing himself. I'd like to think diamond is a better player than to leave glaring holes in his argument that I can
cut through those words
point them out.

My opinion is just that it just seems excuse after excuse.
At first i thought he was just mad about what happened but it seems to go into a deep alt hate, and proceeds to use that as a shield.
Other than that idk how much DS is as a player, do you think he doing this is something he would avoid doing as scum?

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #754 (isolation #49) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:15 pm

In post 751, Maki Harukawa wrote:I don't have enough meta to make that call but for me it's like Diamond has obv holes in his posts that I don't think he'd have as scum I just think he'd be a better scum player you get it?

Yeah I understand.
So basically you think he wouldnt be this careless as scum?

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #759 (isolation #50) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:34 pm

In post 755, Maki Harukawa wrote:Pedit 2 : Exactly

I see, so you want to believe in DS dont you?

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #762 (isolation #51) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:42 pm

That picture was a bit big Maki XD

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #767 (isolation #52) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:02 pm

oh god!
Wait Sushi's scum?

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #769 (isolation #53) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:21 pm

Does your machine also happen to show you evidence of his scumminess?

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #776 (isolation #54) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:41 am

In post 775, Viomi wrote:In all seriousness though, Kaede, why are you voting me? I'm trying to catch up but I'm having trouble sorting the useful posts from the swarm of useless ones. A recap or maybe a case or something would be nice.

My predecessor was voting your predecessor due to a meta case, i figured it was a good start to start interacting with people. Read my post here:

In post 652, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Actually that's not it.
But i've been trying to unentangle this knot of words of everyone, and figured out that probably my predecessor is the only one i can trust, but my predecessor was... quite peculiar in his way of explaining things, but he seemed pretty sure that acid was scum via meta or something.
Now the next issue i had is if he was just here to troll or was actually serious about it, and well given his reaction when the whole shenanigans that caused him to replace out it makes me think that he wasn't here to troll, tho i dont agree with the way he was pushing acid, but it's literally the only lead i have for now, i figure if he was so sure there must have been a reason for it. Reading ppl just from read back makes it harder for me to actually find alignments, and I need interactions, so i figure this is a good place to start.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #777 (isolation #55) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:00 am

I have a question tho, if you had ISO'd me you'd have noticed I never changed my predecessor's vote as I don't have any vote yet.
In the worst case scenario, you'd just try to find my vote on you and noticed it was nowhere, and I could've simply forgotten to unvote and/or havent needed to vote anyone else yet, and in the best case scenario you'd have found that post and we could start from there, why did you instead of doing this decided to just vote back?

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #783 (isolation #56) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:31 am

Spoiler:

Viomi i hope you have an answer, i also want to hear from wicked because he's the leading wagon and it's one of the ppl im most interested in sorting out, worst comse to worst i'll just compromise.

In post 761, kunkstar7 wrote:Damn, basically new playerlist. Ok so there's a bit to go over but can't go into depth since on phone, just want to point out that the township someone keeps calling out is pretty much BS because then you have to do the same for the Mulch slot. Not to mention this is the second game out of three I've seen that same thing happen which I've been involved in the other one I think was scumrelated, so no I don't think it's a credible point.

Hate this post btw.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #784 (isolation #57) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:34 am

It feels like an attack on my TR to try to get me to change my mind than actual disagreement.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #821 (isolation #58) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:59 am

Yeah wicked looks town to me.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #823 (isolation #59) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:01 am

Why are you assuming that im talking about walls

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #826 (isolation #60) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:03 am

dunno, i can follow the reasoning on his posts so far, looks like he's trying to game solve to me.
Meanwhile viomi's posts feel random and detached.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #834 (isolation #61) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:05 am

That is L-1 i think

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #839 (isolation #62) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:17 am

Last I remember your group dynamics were implying a viomi/wicked scumteam, what changed?

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #845 (isolation #63) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:25 am

In post 842, Lycanfire wrote:
In post 839, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Last I remember your group dynamics were implying a viomi/wicked scumteam, what changed?
It was the strange sequence acid re: wicked wrt the gambit's viability after acid OR my post that trouble me. Since it is an interaction it is mostly dependent on my Wicked sr

Thr group dynamics discussion was in both of their favor until Acid gave up and blamed me while Wicked went back on his (wicked's) own ambitions on the matter. I see Wicked as contradictory and my biggest SR among other reasons

Im phoneposting from work read my posts

Sorry, I just remembered that one wall that struck me from way long ago.
But ok I understand, I still think wicked's probably town from his latest posts and viomi's probably scum.
I have a hard time forming reads from posts that happened while I wasn't here.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #850 (isolation #64) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:28 am

Miu, didnt your scanner say that Viomi was scum too?

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #856 (isolation #65) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:32 am

We are all DR alts

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #871 (isolation #66) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:24 pm

If i may interject, if wicked's town, viomi, lynching him is VERY bad, and if he knows this obv he'd counter.

it's a best 3 out of 5 battle after all.

I was going to say earlier that i was up for a NL to give me more time to read ppl rather than risk mislynching due to deadline, but that's kinda selfsish of me.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #872 (isolation #67) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:25 pm

Actually why am i actually trying to reason with scum.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #875 (isolation #68) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:26 pm

In post 873, Viomi wrote:
In post 872, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Actually why am i actually trying to reason with scum.
This OMGUS scumread makes my head hurt..

Oh you were scumreading me?
News to me.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #878 (isolation #69) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:27 pm

Oh wait you werent

In post 862, Viomi wrote:
In post 833, Dunnstral wrote:I'm reversing me earlier position and voting for Viomi. I tr both of Kaeda and Shuichi,
I don't trust Wisdom, diamond, or Miu. I don't understand why lycan is voting there and Viomi seems to be voting the next wagon aside from self. I'll put my hope in Kaeda and Shuichi

VOTE: Viomi
Aw man this rapid appeal to Kaeda and Shuichi that they're buying too.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #880 (isolation #70) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:28 pm

In post 876, Viomi wrote:
In post 871, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:If i may interject, if wicked's town, viomi, lynching him is VERY bad, and if he knows this obv he'd counter.
My point isn't that he's countering on who he thinks is scum, he didn't give any reasons. My point is that he's countering
whoever
- Which, in this setup, is a terrible idea.

Oh i see, that makes more sense.

Hmmm

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #882 (isolation #71) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:29 pm

In post 877, Viomi wrote:
In post 875, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 873, Viomi wrote:
In post 872, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Actually why am i actually trying to reason with scum.
This OMGUS scumread makes my head hurt..
Oh you were scumreading me?
News to me.

Can you explain what you meant with "OMGUS scumread"?

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #887 (isolation #72) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:33 pm

In post 884, Viomi wrote:
In post 882, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 877, Viomi wrote:
In post 875, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 873, Viomi wrote:
In post 872, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Actually why am i actually trying to reason with scum.
This OMGUS scumread makes my head hurt..
Oh you were scumreading me?
News to me.

Can you explain what you meant with "OMGUS scumread"?
I meant it felt like you're scumreading me for my reaction-vote on you earlier.

You know, the one without any reasons to see how you & others would react.

Your scumbuddies didn't immediately start a counter wagon to get me to L-1 or do anything else that would indicate you were scum, so I switched to Wickedestjr. And lo and behold..

Oh i see, so you think im town coz nothing happened with me, but with wicked something happened and that's why you're getting wagoned?
Are you sure it's not because deadline?

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #890 (isolation #73) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:34 pm

In post 885, Shuichi Saihara wrote:Will anyone hurt me if I say this feels like scum theater

wicked vs viomi?
If that's true then it doesnt really matter who goes does it?

Dunno im trying to figure out what viomi's thinking right now

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #892 (isolation #74) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:35 pm

In post 891, Viomi wrote:Like, seriously, there's no way wickedestjr flips town at this point. Not with that kind of immediate counter-wagon.

Shuichi Saihara wrote:
In post 884, Viomi wrote:You know, the one without any reasons to see how you & others would react.
I seem to recall you offering a different explanation at the time
Yes, because when reaction voting, I go outright and say it's reaction voting.. because that wouldn't nullify the point of reaction voting entirely, right?

Who else do you think is scum that decided to jump onto you

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #899 (isolation #75) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:39 pm

So let's see:

In post 793, Shuichi Saihara wrote:Ew.

I find myself wondering whether Wisdom is doing an experiment to see if saying the same thing enough times is all he needs to do to make it so.

VOTE: Viomi

Earlier post that i quoted seem to indicate you think this is town with me.

In post 806, Wickedestjr wrote:Ugh. I thought Diamond had more votes than that. This has been a disappointing day.

Unvote. Vote: Viomi

I'll happily switch back to Diamond though.

I already know you think this is scum.

In post 808, Maki Harukawa wrote:VOTE: Viomi
Oh this was acid? lol bye

You think maki's scum?

In post 833, Dunnstral wrote:I'm reversing me earlier position and voting for Viomi. I tr both of Kaeda and Shuichi,
I don't trust Wisdom, diamond, or Miu. I don't understand why lycan is voting there and Viomi seems to be voting the next wagon aside from self. I'll put my hope in Kaeda and Shuichi

VOTE: Viomi

You think dunn is scum?

These are all the votes that happened after your wicked vote.
Can you tell me your opinions on them? You seem to imply the scumteam is going big against you here to save a partner.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #901 (isolation #76) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:40 pm

Missed this while typing that:

In post 895, Viomi wrote:Maki, Dunnstral, and either Shuichi or Chara.

So I guess you think 4 scum decided to just force through at the end?

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #1005 (isolation #77) » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:51 am

Well, glad scum helped me sort that slot.
Currently doing an HTML5 course will have thoughts later
Pooichi refers to Shuichi.

Kaede Akamatsu · Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:00 pm

Thought dump:

I'm glad that my instinct on following my predecessor's read was right.
Still think Sushi's town.
Happy i dont have to sort Miu.

Additional thoughts from this day phase:

In post 1002, Wisdom wrote:still think hes scum, and lots of the exchanges with viomi felt like scum theatre

I still dont get what's the issue you have here, and your posts are giving me Tarot vib-

In post 1003, Wisdom wrote:miu pushed wicked and "pooichi"

whos pooichi again?

Ok nvm, this sounds a little better.

In post 1007, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1006, Chara wrote:makes up some scum theatre
come again? I made nothing up, the scum theatre was acknowledged by people right when it happened

This is true, i do recall something like that, but cant remember where exactly or from whom.

In post 1009, Wickedestjr wrote:
In post 1002, Wisdom wrote:VOTE: wicked

still think hes scum, and lots of the exchanges with viomi felt like scum theatre
I had
one
exchange with Viomi. If you're town then you're confbiasing pretty hard this game.

Do you think he's town confbiassing or scum.

More thoughts:
I personally dont think Viomi vs Wicked looked like SvS.
I dont know what Lycan's 1001 is all about, would rather get some conclusions from there tyvm.

Kaede Akamatsu · Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:12 pm

Seems like no one's around...
Oh well i'll come back later.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #1030 (isolation #80) » Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:03 am

In post 1028, Wisdom wrote:Kaede and DS are most likely town via meta

Well this is awkward.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #1031 (isolation #81) » Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:03 am

In post 1028, Wisdom wrote:Maki is scum

Why?

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #1033 (isolation #82) » Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:17 am

To expand on the former.
I was kinda fully expecting you to scumread me since i didnt help you lynch Wicked yesterday, but now that you're mentioning im town via meta, I'm in a weird position where I couldn't predict what you'd do and im not sure what that means wrt your alignment, but i'll ask anyway, what gave you town feelings from my posting?

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #1034 (isolation #83) » Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:18 am

In post 1032, Wisdom wrote:because her posts

Also can you expand on this?

Kaede Akamatsu · Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:18 am

Where are these scumreads on Maki even coming from.

Kaede Akamatsu · Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:22 am

In post 1041, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 955, Viomi wrote:So Dunn, if you're town, it's pretty fkn clear Maki is helping push this counterwagon for her scumbud at this point, no?
This came at a time where I had mentioned Maki looking bad - it's like they were appealing to me using Maki.

If anything this makes me think it's MORE likely Maki is town.
Wouldn't it be the job of dying scum to scum spew to earn a point next phase?
(Am i even using the word spew right).

Kaede Akamatsu · Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:25 am

In post 1051, Wisdom wrote:why is maki town?

You are saying she's scum.
That's why.
/joke

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #1090 (isolation #87) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:41 am

VOTE: Kunk
#NotSheepingWisdom

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #1091 (isolation #88) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:52 am

In all seriousness tho, I didn't like kunk's interaction with Chara just now.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #1098 (isolation #89) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:35 am

In post 1092, Shuichi Saihara wrote:And to address everyone suspecting kunkstar today, explain to me why he casts the L-1 vote for viomi with Dunn visibly wavering unless he's also scum with wicked in which case vote there first.

This is a good point.
But then, why is he going after wicked still?
Like idgi, let's assume for a momment that wicked's gonna flip scum, why does kunstar still go after Wicked today if they are both scum.

Actually it doesnt make sense for kunkstar scum to do that either... ugh im just second guessing myself again
UNVOTE:

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #1101 (isolation #90) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:03 am

Spoiler: Image

This game doesn't make sense.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #1113 (isolation #91) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:30 am

In post 1112, Chara wrote:stop making my head hurt.

Welcome to where i am right now

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #1138 (isolation #92) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:25 pm

Uhh, I thought lurking Maki was town Maki? or did I get that wrong. Well she will probably say I shouldn't use meta to read her anyway.
But, what If you're scum trying to get a point?.
Although Sushi i can probably trust.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #1139 (isolation #93) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:26 pm

eeenie minie mini moe, i pray to god this will flip scum
VOTE: wicked

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #1140 (isolation #94) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:27 pm

Dunno this feels like it's going too smooth... im getting paranoid...

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #1142 (isolation #95) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:30 pm

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #1143 (isolation #96) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:42 pm

Ugh, what am i even doing
UNVOTE:

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #1144 (isolation #97) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:43 pm

There must be something we've missed...
I don't get it, why did Miu die.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #1146 (isolation #98) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:03 pm

In post 1145, Wisdom wrote:because it was a no information kill and because she was one more vote for wicked

How can she be a no information kill, when she was a vote for wicked.

Kaede Akamatsu · Post Post #1147 (isolation #99) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:04 pm

Like that clearly implies there's some information to be gained from her death (i.e. possibly Wicked scum). So i don't get it.

Kaede Akamatsu · Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:12 pm

Ok i buy that
VOTE: Wicked

Kaede Akamatsu · Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:28 pm

Although if it was a kill with the intent to confuse why were you surprised i got confused by it.

Kaede Akamatsu · Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:42 pm

Please Shuichi, If you're losing confidence, what's gonna happen to the trust i put in you.

Kaede Akamatsu · Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:35 am

I guess I better pray Wicked flips scum, otherwise Scum will go up 2 within 2 days.

Kaede Akamatsu · Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:39 am

Kaede Akamatsu · Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:40 am

In post 1174, Wisdom wrote:thats it?

Yeah

Kaede Akamatsu · Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:47 am

Honestly tho, my self-steem and confidence are in a very low position atm.

Kaede Akamatsu · Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:51 am

The only real reads i feel confident in is that Shuichi and Maki are town.
And FML if even that is wrong.

Kaede Akamatsu · Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:15 am

I'm just being a sheep right now.

Kaede Akamatsu · Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:29 am

I dont really care about figuring alts to begin with, unless they are public im not even gonna bother.
For all I know they could be someone I never played with.

Kaede Akamatsu · Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:37 am

Is it my imagination or Lycan's strawmanning my read on viomi.

Kaede Akamatsu · Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:40 am

Well either that or he decided to misrepresent one of my posts and/or didnt read my exchange with Viomi.

Kaede Akamatsu · Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:43 am

Umm...
Really guys, are my posts hard to read or something?

How am i supposed to tell if Lycan's strawmanning me if 2 people are misinterpreting things and makes me believe i just didnt convey what i was doing in my post correctly.

Kaede Akamatsu · Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:51 am

Maybe i was just wrong again...

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:55 am

In post 1210, Wickedestjr wrote:Kaede, if you're having trouble with reads then why would you already be sheeping? I can understand struggling with reads but at the same time
it doesn't feel like you're doing much to change that.

Spoiler:

VOTE: Wicked

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:14 am

In post 1212, Wickedestjr wrote:You were already voting for me.

I know.
I just wanted to add emphasis, that i didnt like your statement.

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:16 am

If you wanted me to change my ways or at least interact with me, complaining about me looking like not attempting to change my reads, when im clearly struggling to get anything going in my head isnt the way to do it, feels more like a potshot than a genuine concern.

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:46 am

Spoiler:

#Danganronpa

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:15 am

In post 1226, Shuichi Saihara wrote:ilu.

Will you make the right choice or the dreadfully wrong one?

<3

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:17 am

In post 1222, Wickedestjr wrote:I wasn't complaining. I was just trying to understand why you're playing this way.

What should I do if I want you to 'change your ways' then?

Well certainly NOT making me mad by not reading my posts.

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:50 pm

In post 1231, Chara wrote:singlehandedly rekindled my inspiration for this game.
not kidding.

You're welcome!

Spoiler:

Kaede Akamatsu · Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:02 am

In post 1234, Lycanfire wrote:The point is that it wasn't an original thought.

The point is, it was an original thought.
My first thing with Viomi was just a way to get engaged and interact with people, I even said as much, then i took issue with what she posted later.

The point that you're focusing on my original read and not what happened afterwards clearly means you're strawmanning no?

Kaede Akamatsu · Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:04 pm

In post 1231, Chara wrote:i've been gone, but i'm back. glad there isn't too much to read. i know there are questions for me as well, getting to them.

So, what happened?

Kaede Akamatsu · Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:52 pm

Chara: "Thanks for posting this, you've inspired me to catch up and do stuff Kaede!"
Me: "You're welcome"

1 day later...
*crickets*

So.... what was all that "reignited your desire to play" or whatever about?

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:18 am

Wait you only scumread Dunn? Or all those 5 the people you'd lynch today? or just the bottom 2?
I pretty much dont understand that post.

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:25 am

@Wicked: Do you scumread me?
P-Edit: Oh nvm.

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:26 am

In post 1260, Wickedestjr wrote:Only takes one sheeping townie to screw everything up just like in actual MyLo.

I thought, that was for LyLo, not MyLo.

But I guess you have a point there, I probably shouldn't be blatantly sheeping like this. But you said I wasnt trying, when I clearly was, so idk.

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:27 am

Maybe im wrong?

Spoiler:

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:28 am

In post 1260, Wickedestjr wrote:And when I flip town, I hope this is a lesson that sheeping is bad in this setup.

Wait a second, im only the one sheeping, this post seems to assume im town, when you previously said i wasnt?

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:30 am

Also what made your read on Maki flip? She's not even voting you.

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:58 pm

In post 1266, Wickedestjr wrote:because she makes more sense as a partner to Wisdom/Diamond

So she bused Acid and now she's busing Wisdom?
Is that what you're saying?

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:58 pm

Isnt that kinda... suicidal

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:30 pm

UNVOTE:
Getting cold feet...
Every single time i interact with Wicked he just feels... town.

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:07 pm

Well, i did say when i replaced in that im pretty bad a readback, specially on games i wasnt in, or in this case, portions of this game i wasnt in.
The one thing that did jump at me was that he did some self meta in that game?

I'll give it a proper look later if you want, but I cant promise much.

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:06 pm

Oh god you're scaring me now.

Spoiler:

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:07 pm

Wait but if he sounds towny as scum why is he being wagoned now?

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:08 pm

Does it mean he doesnt sound towny as town?...
No but then I wouldnt get towny vibes from him everytime i read his posts.

Spoiler:

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:14 pm

Guess there's one thing i can do, I'll trust your detective work Shuichi

Spoiler:

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:17 pm

That doesn't mean that can't be the case this game then, no?

Spoiler:

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:19 pm

Then again, if you were sounding towny that game how did you get lynched to begin with.

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:20 pm

If your playstyle is something you can be attacked for, what makes you think of the way I feel about your posts being towny and the way you're being pushed by Wisdom and co?

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:22 pm

I feel like something about that doesnt fit.

Kaede Akamatsu · Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:02 am

In post 1294, Wickedestjr wrote:If you really want to get a feel for my scum meta, there are other games where I existed for more than two RL days.

In post 1278, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Well, i did say when i replaced in that im pretty bad a readback, specially on games i wasnt in, or in this case, portions of this game i wasnt in.

As I said before, Shuichi's the detective not me

Spoiler:

In post 1291, Wisdom wrote:he's so fucking obviously scum and I wanna cry every time someone believes his bullshit

If he's so "obviously scum" then how about you explain it to me.
The only thing that has jumped at me is he saying that im not trying when i am.

Kaede Akamatsu · Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:25 am

In post 1298, Wisdom wrote:you know how i feel about explaining

Yes, I know, but I was hoping you'd explain it anyway.

In post 1298, Wisdom wrote:either you see it or not, and in this case you should be seeing it

What makes you think i

should

be seeing it?

Kaede Akamatsu · Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:27 am

I feel like I should just lynch him and be done with it, this read has caused me more problems than I needed and blame Wisdom if he flips town.

But then that's the easy way out.

Kaede Akamatsu · Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:28 am

In post 1300, Maki Harukawa wrote:7 days to go until I get what I want again I see

?

Kaede Akamatsu · Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:57 am

Maybe Shuichi's right.
There's 4 scum remaining, and we only need to lynch 2 of those unless we mislynch, if Wicked's scum he wont win alone.

Kaede Akamatsu · Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:55 pm

In post 1310, Dunnstral wrote:If wicked is scum why wouldn't scum have just sacrificed him to deny a point

????
I thought scum can only sacrifice if a mislynch happens.

Kaede Akamatsu · Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:47 am

VOTE: Wicked
I'm done trying to think, maybe i was just overthinking things.

Kaede Akamatsu · Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:20 am

That hammer gives me a bad feeling...
I hope this flips scum.

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:28 am

Hmm, I'm wondering if it's possible to PoE from here?

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:40 am

Hmm...

Literally the only player here i have strong enough reasons to believe is town is Shuichi, I need 1-2 more for PoE.

Spoiler:

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:05 am

In post 1389, Chara wrote:
In post 1387, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Literally the only player here i have strong enough reasons to believe is town is Shuichi, I need 1-2 more for PoE.
i pushed acid/Viomi. do i get a cookie?

No, maybe half a cookie

Mostly, I have my doubts on myself, coz you townread me and defended me (i think?) and I have a tendency to townread that, but if im going to PoE i cant rely on stuff like that, I need to be very sure the people I'm townreading are town, otherwise PoE wont work.

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:32 am

Speaking of sidekicks

Spoiler:

Does that make me Wisdom's Sidekick's Sidekick?

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:24 am

Eww, Maki's vote for Dunn is kinda weird.

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:26 am

Sure
VOTE: Maki

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:28 am

Wait wait wait
What?
Why are you self voting!

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:40 am

Hmm, the only ones I could see would be Lycan and Kunkstar, Lycan mostly because of the strawman yesterday, kunk being gut. Unsure on the 3rd

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:43 am

But arent those the same ones you had when you randomly decided to vote Dunn?
I'm still wondering about that vote.

P-Edit: Uhh... well, he has done detective work to get scum lynched.

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:47 am

Wait, do you seriously think Shuichi scum would attempt to convince me that wicked's scum via some meta dive when i was thinking he was towny?

Spoiler:

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:49 am

I don't care what you think about that.
He had a chance to save him and decided to bus him harder, i dont see that happening.

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:49 am

Well you seem to be trying to convince me that he could be scum.

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:54 am

In post 1454, Maki Harukawa wrote:I'm not trying to convince you he's scum I'm trying to understand the lock townreads you've given each other the whole game and you should easily be able to give a paragraph on it but all you have is "he's lynched scum"

I didnt say all I had was "He's lynched scum", I did specify doing detective work for it, which is different, why are you misrepping me?

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:07 am

In post 1458, Maki Harukawa wrote:Kaede something you wanna tell us?

Yeah, sure.
1) If you know me, then why are you even asking me to expand on my reads. You know how that went last time, or are you trying to tell me this could be the same situation as last time?
2) Why are you doing this again?.

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:12 am

I'm asking because, you should already know im the type of person to not give lengthy explanations about reads, I've always struggled doing that because they usually come from gut, I even mentioned this back in D1 when i was engaging DS. I'm rather unsure whether you're doing this to tell me this could be Shuichi hard buddying me or something else.

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:22 am

In post 1461, Maki Harukawa wrote:2) Why does it matter if you think I'm scum?

What if i dont anymore?
But I know that you wont rest until you're lynched, just like last time.

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:25 am

Well I guess I could try to expand on it for you if you REAAAAAALLY want, but I feel like it'd be adding a bunch of words just to say the same thing.

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:30 am

In post 1466, Maki Harukawa wrote:Of course I want to unvote myself and keep on playing this it's super fun, if I unvote people will think it was a scum gambit.

They wont.
You already townslipped harder and you didnt even notice.
The only reason im not unvoting it's because last time I did and you kept asking me to vote you back and to be the lynch of the day, and people did end up lynching you on a later day after that.

In post 1466, Maki Harukawa wrote:If you're uncomfortable don't I'm not gonna force you but if you're not doing it because you think posting a bunch of words won't help then that's wrong I should know about posting a bunch of words you know I'll read it

I'll do it if it helps you read me, other than that, yeah it would be pretty uncomfortable.

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:39 am

Ok.

When Shuichi replaced in, he started doing work from reading from the start to form his reads, around the same time I was discussing DS with Dunn and noticed an issue with Wisdom and DS reads talk, so I could see why Shuichi had noticed something odd on DS, then when all 3 of us started engaging I could see Shuichi as possibly being right, which led me to believe that he was also seeing things from a town perspective, another thing is when he finished reading through he flipped his read on my slot, despite not liking my predecessor, when that would've been an easy one to push and ML just like I usually am, but instead he seemed to be on top of the same things I was noticing, specially when Viomi voted me and when we both thought that wicked was kinda towny, after Viomi's scum flip it gave me more belief towards Shuichi being town, and also him expecting to be NK'd the next day.
During his play on Day 2 he immediately started on analysis of the NK, because it didnt make any sense either for me, I was unsure on why they were seeing wicked vs viomi as SvS tho, but after D1 I trusted shuichi and decided to sheep him. Midway through D2 Wicked came and sounded towny again, which shaked off my vote, but Shuichi brought up a game where Wicked was towny sounding but was scum, and I just decided to go with "screw it" and voted, Wicked flipping scum, reinforced the read even more, because Shuichi himself did work to get my vote back on.

I highly doubt any of that would come from scum.

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:41 am

Did that help?
That's my entire thought process across the whole thing.

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:52 am

In post 1469, Shuichi Saihara wrote:I don't know how to read this so I guess I'll just shut up for a while.

Part of it is meta related, is there something you want me to explain?

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:28 am

Although I admit, I wouldnt mind RPing like that with Shuichi

Spoiler:

Kaede Akamatsu · Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:19 pm

"weeb" gambits?

Kaede Akamatsu · Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:34 am

Did everyone dissapear?

Kaede Akamatsu · Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:39 am

I don't even.

Kaede Akamatsu · Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:53 am

I'm mostly surprised that no one is commenting on anything that happened.

Kaede Akamatsu · Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:54 am

Kaede Akamatsu · Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:47 am

Everytime i read DS's exchanges i feel like talking to him is like talking to a brick wall.

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:42 am

In post 1496, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1476, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Although I admit, I wouldnt mind RPing like that with Shuichi

Spoiler:

He's pretty cute and reliable after all
???

Why did you chose THAT to comment on?

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:44 am

Also, why does it seem like there's so few ppl doing stuff today.

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:14 am

If anything im surprised Maki isnt bugging Shuichi to get back on her.

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:20 am

Yeah, well, last time you were bugging me all the time, was wondering what was the difference between then and now.
Then I dont remember clearly the circumstances of back then, i recall i TR you for it and didnt want to lynch you and that's about it.

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:46 am

In post 1510, Maki Harukawa wrote:I rather we use our team and people get online and give thoughts.

With how things been going too far.
Guess im gonna fall asleep first
</joke>

Kaede Akamatsu · Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:50 pm

You guys are being boring

Spoiler:

Kaede Akamatsu · Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:22 am

Hmmm

Spoiler:

Kaede Akamatsu · Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:35 am

Ugh, im having a hard time putting my thoughts into words, so if there's anything about this that you want me to explain let me know:

I've been thinking about this "giving too much weight to maki's self-vote" thing, then I still dunno what went on with Maki's vote on Dunn, I still think it was weird, specially coz later after the self-vote she asked to assume they are both town.
But the self-vote is literally suicide to do as scum, since literally she getting lynched today as scum = scum lose, which led me to think she was possibly town, but there's also truth in what she said earlier about she being able to pull a stunt like this as scum.

And then I just keep spinning around in my head, part of me wants to just townread her for as long as she wants to lynch herself, part of me just want to flat out townread her regardless of whether she's lynched today or not. Until I realized that I just cant flat out ignore it no matter how hard I try, and now im unsure on how to proceed from here, because if she's town lynching her would be VERY bad.

Kaede Akamatsu · Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:57 am

In post 1522, Maki Harukawa wrote:I think we should talk on Dunn because if he's scum he'll prob leave do you think he's scum?

That's what I want to figure out!

Kaede Akamatsu · Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:59 am

I remember, i liked him a bit D1 when he was pushing some sort of DS thing back then, D2 I barely ever paid attention to him tho, one thing is that he reversed his read on you or something?, and today your vote on him felt like so out of the left field that I didnt know what to think, and out of everything that we were talking about the only thing he felt commenting on was my fluff post.

That's about all I remember wrt Dunn.

Kaede Akamatsu · Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:01 am

Basically I have no idea how to read anything he's done in this game.

Spoiler:

And what worries me is that if you flip town, and he's scum, yeah that's what he'll do.

Kaede Akamatsu · Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:05 am

If anything I was hoping you'd help ME with that read.

Kaede Akamatsu · Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:10 am

Sorry for being useless.

Spoiler:

Kaede Akamatsu · Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:54 pm

In post 1533, Lycanfire wrote:frankly my notes have become muddled and complicated that they appear to do exactly what i'm defining scum as doing today in it. rather than use it argumentatively i'd rather plainly ask shuichi and kaede how they feel about the following topics

1) We have two mislynches
2) All scum are confirmed to have bussed
3) Complexity of the game state
4) The necessity of PoE

1) Buffer enough for if we fail, really we just have to not be wrong 3 times out of 3.
2) Is this even true?, Wouldnt finding duplicates on both-- actually nevermind, that seems to be too easy, but it's possible.
3) Uhh... im pretty bad at evaluating the game state, i'd say it's not? very complex? maybe?
4) Well with town already with 2 points, scum cant NK town anymore, making PoE a good strategy perhaps? I dont find it as a "necessity" more like a "tool".

I do agree with the general sentiment that a perfect win is looking real good, but dont lose sight of the actual objective here, my point being if you focus too much on getting that perfect win you may be misled by scum into mislynches. On the other hand, PoE also carries it's own set of downsides too. All in all, I dont want to screw this any more than (I guess?) any of you, it'd be really embarassing to have lynched 2 scum and then proceed to mislynch 3 times in a row. Which is why im having a hard time getting any surefire townreads because they'd be basically people im betting the game on.

Kaede Akamatsu · Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:55 pm

In post 1540, Maki Harukawa wrote:Is Maki scum gambiting!?

She is!>>>>

<<<<She isn't!

take your side!

I feel tempted to reply to this Debate Scrum style...

Kaede Akamatsu · Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:19 pm

In post 1546, Shuichi Saihara wrote:
In post 1543, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 1540, Maki Harukawa wrote:Is Maki scum gambiting!?

She is!>>>>

<<<<She isn't!

take your side!
I feel tempted to reply to this Debate Scrum style...
*rocket noise*

Kaede!

I want to

believe

in Maki, and for that, I cannot unvote.

Spoiler:

Sorry took me a while to figure out how to summarize my entire thoughts into a sentence with a keyword (and to make the image).

Longer version:

In post 1521, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:And then I just keep spinning around in my head, part of me wants to just townread her for as long as she wants to lynch herself, part of me just want to flat out townread her regardless of whether she's lynched today or not. Until I realized that I just cant flat out ignore it no matter how hard I try, and now im unsure on how to proceed from here, because if she's town lynching her would be VERY bad.

Kaede Akamatsu · Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:40 am

Huh?, wait, why are you scumreading Shuichi Maki?

Kaede Akamatsu · Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:11 pm

I'm confused by both votes

Spoiler:

Kaede Akamatsu · Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:14 pm

You're OMGUSing her?

Spoiler:

Kaede Akamatsu · Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:18 pm

In post 1594, Shuichi Saihara wrote:That vote count does not bode paricularly well for my sense of the gme.

I'm having the same issue right now...

Kaede Akamatsu · Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:24 pm

The more i think about it, the less sense this game state makes

Spoiler:

Kaede Akamatsu · Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:17 pm

Why is everyone going apathetic now?
Or is everyone just busy?