Mini 1959 - Protomen Blitz : Game Over

[Yume]

@Titus @Nebby

What is your lucky word:

Nebraska?
Blueberries?
Pomegranate?

[Yume]

@Titus @Nebby

What is your lucky word:

Nebraska?
Blueberries?
Pomegranate?

[Yume]

You don't remember the strategy table? *sad*

p-edit: She obviously hadn't seen it, hence I am reposting.

[Yume]

Se said there are spammy posts too, and mine wasn't, so she hadn't seen it.

[Yume]

VOTE: drealm

you know why.

[Yume]

You are trying to pass my planning as spam.

[Yume]

if you really want to be protown you could vote for me or xiao.
preferably xiao because hes probably scum, but either works.

That depends on whether you like nectarines or not.

[Yume]

Then that's too bad. I sell them. I will not bow to the will of anyone who doesn't like them.

[Yume]

Okay, I've read p, and this is a placeholder.

Nectarines recruit Queen of Moon Logic onto their team

Bye.

[Yume]

T'is my day action, wasn't it obvious? <3 <3

[Yume]

Why, team Crystal Gems, of course. Yume is Paddy. Moonie can be whatever she wishes. Lisanna is Topaz.

[Yume]

They this is aimed at will, and that's what matters.

[Yume]

If yo don't understand, maybe you're not supposed to.

[Yume]

VOTE: Yume
More details to come~

You are wrong, Lisanna. You're wrong.

[Yume]

They are wrong because I'm not scum, which will become apparent if you flip me.

And yes, yes, I am.

VOTE: Xiao

[Yume]

I am a neighborizer, that's how I recruit people in my team. Happy Lappy knows this too.

[Yume]

@Xiao A neighborhood is a team. We talk about stuff in a PT. That is a team.

Btw, if we go by your definition of a team, which you admitted is a scum team then Lisanna should be scum as well, since I called them a part of it. Do you scumread Lisanna?

@McMenno I am not third party, and I am not scum either.

@Happy Lappy: Paddy predicts her death. Paddy needs some advice to get out of it.

[Yume]

I didn't neighborize them, they neighborized me. I neighborized Tito.

[Yume]

Because they have wrong expectations of my playstyle, that's why.

p-edit: Read my question, Lappy.

[Yume]

I didn't neighborize them, they neighborized me.

Oh you do not know the can of warms you just openned up.

Are you saying you didn't neighborize me, Lisanna?

[Yume]

It's two separate actions. Lisanna neighborized me during pregame and I neighborized Titus during this day. The neighborhood I created opens after the day is over, but since Lisanna wants me dead, I probably won't be able to activate it. Oh well.

[Yume]

He, I knew I made the right choice.

[Yume]

Intuition, plus I know how Titus plays to a degree.

[Yume]

I am not sure who to scumread now.....

[Yume]

@Lappy Lisanna is my only TR who isn't confirmed as town.

[Yume]

Also, if she can provide fruits basket, then nectarines can help shield it from the public eyes.

[Yume]

Why, team

Crystal Gems

, of course. Yume is Paddy. Moonie can be whatever she wishes. Lisanna is Topaz.

Hmmm....

Then there's "The State",

which is colored green so I'm assuming they are something like the Crystal Gems from SU2 where they have to keep us alive to win

~Drixx

HMMMM......

Why u suspecting ur mason partner?

[Yume]

Well, the Crystal Gems were a town-friendly third party back then. So even if I were third party, which I'm not, it'd be one which is town-friendly.

[Yume]

I'm guessing I am the most suspect, right?

p-edit: Whatever.

[Yume]

Wait, hold the phone. I just remembered a couple of earlier, and you two aren't masons......

[Yume]

not whatever, it's fucking terrible reasoning and I'd like you to admit it

You aren't Lisanna, you aren't Lappy and you aren't Titus either. I will only admit stuff to them.

[Yume]

Well, the Crystal Gems were a town-friendly third party back then. So even if I were third party, which I'm not, it'd be one which is town-friendly.

I don't know if it is or isn't town friendly, just thought it might be a connection.

The only connection I have right now is with Lisanna.

[Yume]

Well, the Crystal Gems were a town-friendly third party back then. So even if I were third party, which I'm not, it'd be one which is town-friendly.

I don't know if it is or isn't town friendly, just thought it might be a connection.

The only connection I have right now is with Lisanna.

Btw you never told me what happened that made her vote you.

I did, they are having unreal expectations of me.

[Yume]

They expect me to form reads day 1 when they played with me before and they know I don't operate like that.

[Yume]

VOTE: Xiao

I don't believe mason claim ether. Especially with these posts:

Hi all, on my way back to my friends from Blizzcon, which was amazing.

@Gork: I don't actually undedstand your Xiao thing, but I don't know Xiaos play at all. Is this more meta based, or just behavior x is always scum indicative?

@Xiao: I also don't understand your suspicion of drealm, or your decision to back off. Elaborate.

@Titus, AC, Alisae-hydra, and everyone else else who we've played with before: <3, and I apologize in advance for potentially doing less to maintain this hydra post count than I usually do. I'll be back home from Blizzco Sunday morning, but I have friends to catch up with etc all week long. I'll do my best though.

@Drealm: I'll need to check with Drixx, but I assume he's spoken with Titus about both our rl situations and thus that statement is NAI. Decent reasoning though.

Havo: I don't know you. Tell me how you play in a sentence.

Oh, and: Who thinks if they were confrown we'd definitely be able to win?

-Cerb

Hmm, Cheetos gaining town points while Dreamsicle is losing them after that exchange.
I think if I were we'd definitely be able to win. Doubly so since people would quit wasting their time tunneling me and look at other people.

It was only after these posts that RR claimed 'masons' with Xiao.

[Yume]

Okay, I will trust you for now, Lappy, but if they flip town, you are next

VOTE: Hanyu

[Yume]

I have.

[Yume]

titus do you have a read on yume?

Townish. I would like to interact more before locking that in.

Still waiting for you to address my early questions and my day action.

[Yume]

It will happen once the day ends.

The questions are here: 7

[Yume]

It will happen once the day ends.

The questions are here: 7

@Yume, I visited Morroco?

Tell RR the key? I confused...:/

You have the key. It's from our old code.

[Yume]

Hi.

[Yume]

The right way to do things.

VOTE: drealmerz

[Yume]

The right way to do things.

VOTE: drealmerz

Don't like it? Then settle on something. We have less than four hours, so get a move on.

[Yume]

yume you need to make a large effort to suck less

and y'all need to make an effort to lynch someone, which you don't seem to be doing, so I am doing a Lelouch gambit to motivate you.

[Yume]

and y'all need to make an effort to lynch someone,

do you even read before making stupid statements like this?

the people currently active in the game are doing a fuckload more than you're doing to achieve a lynch

get your head out of your ass, seriously

Show me results. I see they are doing things, but everyone wants to lynch someone different as far as I can see. Prove me wrong.

Also, just because I am not doing anything now, doesn't mean I won't.

I am NOT a day 1 player

, get it already.

[Yume]

I am considering recruiting drealm just so I can go ballistic on him.

[Yume]

Like, stop doubting my ability. I can catch scum, so don't go speaking nonsense when you know nothing about the way I play.

[Yume]

yume I've been in like 4 games with you and you were useless every time

show me something new and I'll start thinking differently

Were you with me in Mini 1936, bro?

[Yume]

Like, stop doubting my ability. I can catch scum, so don't go speaking nonsense when you know nothing about the way I play.

if you think hes legitimately doubting your ability vs just trying to make you look bad to deter you, wouldnt that make him town in your eyes?

He tried to psyche me out from using my recruit on Titus by commenting I am spamming.

[Yume]

Besides, I am not scumreading him at all. My vote is actually designed to get you into an united front when a lynch is concerned.

UNVOTE:

[Yume]

yume I've been in like 4 games with you and you were useless every time

show me something new and I'll start thinking differently

Were you with me in Mini 1936, bro?

don't think so

anyway, my goal isn't to be rude, but to kick you in the ass to do things

I understand D1 not being your Day, it is rarely my Day too, but you came on and criticized ppl for not doing shit when you yourself are not doing shit so, you see my issue? (especially when there are a handful of us doing shit)

p-edit: or is he scum who was simply given a fakeclaim to look like megaman because "haha lynching based on claims instead of on scumness is a good way to play" is what varsoon thinks?

If you haven't been in 1936 with me, then you still don't know squat about the way I play. Those four games you played with me were before I changed for the better.

[Yume]

Plus, you want to lynch Vax, who most of the players agree is town.

[Yume]

ok great, yume, looking forward to you in the next Days

still have a scumlean on you though

no, most players don't agree he's town, just a # of those that were voting him are giving him a pass because of his claim - a tactic that I think is generally bad play (it's not soething you never do but, for me here the claim isn't enough to dissuade his lynch)

Those who claim town or town-friendly are just. The 'Crystal Gems' RR kept mentioning? I was their leader until I was killed by RR, and guess what? We all were what we claimed. So take your paranoia elsewhere.

[Yume]

If I am not lynched today, I am retreating into my PT with Titus. Her ability and my ability will ensure that our PT stays till the end of time.

[Yume]

VOTE: Hanyu

[Yume]

@drealmerz Where is the lynch? You said that people were working towards it. I don't see any compromise. All I see people still bickering and disagreeing at two and a half hours before deadline. Show me the results.

[Yume]

I will go Pandora on you if you end up no-lynching. :c

[Yume]

VOTE: Hanyu

I don't feel like this one Yume.

We have two hours. Let's compromise.

[Yume]

@RR I am not moving. Do you want a no lynch? Cos with all of your wanting different targets, that outcome is more than certain. :/

[Yume]

@RR So unless you name one candidate that the majority of the playerlist will accept as the lynch and not continue bickering over it, I am all ears, but otherwise, not changing my vote.

[Yume]

VOTE: Hanyu

I don't feel like this one Yume.

We have two hours. Let's compromise.

Yeah my compromise is not them, you, RR, Xiao, Gork, AC, or me. Anyone else, I'm fine with roping.

I doubt you'd get support for anyone else with this little time remaining.....

[Yume]

If yo weren't treestumped, I would say you are scum. Town!you doesn't stall with this little time left. I know this from Suikoden. You literally told me to worry about the no lynch with a day left till deadline, and yo don't seem worried about the no-lynch with less than two hours left till deadline.

[Yume]

If I were scum, why would I recruit Titus, thereby making her virtually untargetable by my own faction, when she is confirmed town by a mod post? No, I won't. I'd just go the direct route and let her brains be blown out. If you think I do convoluted things as either alignment, you have the wrong person.

[Yume]

Did you actually not understand the progression from his ability claim to literally the ONLY characters in the flavor who have that ability?

and this can't be a fakeclaim for scum and they would have no realistic equal potential for having that ability?

Sure it could be a fake claim. Varsoon has even made the "hero" outright scum before. The point is that his ability if he's town is valuable and that changes the equation. If we posit him as scum, that also raises a question about the day start usage of the ability.

@RR I am not moving. Do you want a no lynch? Cos with all of your wanting different targets, that outcome is more than certain. :/

Don't hold the game hostage. That's a basic part of the implied social contract of mafia. It's already difficult with AC being voteless, and now you want to make things MORE difficult?

~D

The Crystal Gems literally lost because people refused the very idea of someone holding the game hostage.

*sigh* Everyone gives me scummy vibes. I need a break....

[Yume]

My action was confirmed after she was revealed as town. If I were scum, I would have annulled it when Varsoon asked me to confirm it.

[Yume]

:/

[Yume]

Do not insult the Crystal Nectarines. It will be the last mistake you'll ever make.

[Yume]

Aren't you doing that to me? By your logic, I should be screaming insult at you for insulting my play.

[Yume]

When you do it to others, it's okay, but when others do it to you, it's not okay. >.>

[Yume]

But whatever, just ignore me, cos you apparently can rub others wrong but get made when others rub you wrong.

[Yume]

I am out of the country, I am out of the thread for a day or two, I am out of the swamp.

[Yume]

PissedOffYume has awoken and is about to go Annie on your scrawny bottoms

Incinerate: drealmerz

Spoiler:

none of the above is real, I am just funneling my rage

[Yume]

When you do it to others, it's okay, but when others do it to you, it's not okay. >.>

But whatever, just ignore me, cos you apparently can rub others wrong but get made when others rub you wrong.

You realize this will probably fan the flames, right?

I don't condone hypocrites or people who think they can be little special snowflakes without consequences.

[Yume]

Yeah, last time someone told me to talk post-game, they ignored every word I had to say on that subject, so no.

[Yume]

Want me to stop fanning the flames? Lynch someone faster so I can vent in my PTs instead of here, and so I have time to cool down.

[Yume]

Idk then, maybe try to befriend each other outside of the game so yall don't rip each others throats out when you're in a game together?

oh I tried, she was nothing but a condescending egomaniacal __________

And yo aren't?

Let me pll all the quotes that show yo insluting myself or anybody else, you hypocrite.

[Yume]

Idk then, maybe try to befriend each other outside of the game so yall don't rip each others throats out when you're in a game together?

oh I tried, she was nothing but a condescending egomaniacal __________

And yo aren't?

Let me pll all the quotes that show yo insluting myself or anybody else, you hypocrite.

Let's not do this.

No, people need to learn to be nicer.

[Yume]

No, people need to learn to be nicer.

get the fuzzy out of your eyes that you picked up from the TP fluff you picked up from being up titus's ass and see that her disrespect towards me, that repeats from game to game to game, is the cause of this

So Titus is the cause of every insult you threw at me and half the players in this game? Get real.

[Yume]

VOTE: Hanyu

for sake of my nerves, I need to end this day faster.

[Yume]

VOTE: Desperado

[Yume]

Nectarines recruit Xiao

All according to keikaku (Translator's note: 'Keikaku' means 'plan'.)

[Yume]

Isn't it obvious? Regardless, you'd find my reason stupid like that even if it comes back to bite you later, so..... *shrugs* Do what you want, but don't ask me anything, since you are clearly unwilling to listen to any opinion different from your own.

Alt slippage. Much embarrassment.

[Yume]

what's up your ass? play the fucking game holy shit we don't need this shit

no, it's not obvious, answer the fucking question, or don't, but

don't be an asshole

pot calling the kettle black.

And if you must know, it's because he is doubtcasting Vaxkiller.

[Yume]

They're is part of the state now, so don't trust them

[Yume]

Unless they didn't read their role PM, they knew they were getting lynched and that their win con will change as a result, so they cold still have lied once their lynch became imminent.

[Yume]

Relevant:

[Yume]

Are you both saying that they didn't know they would become State upon their death? Cos if so, you are the ones who need to stop playing, not me and Moonie, to use your words.

[Yume]

And sure, I am scum for discrediting a Judas, while Lisanna, said Judas, who discredited masons, and you, who discredited Megaman, are so town.

[Yume]

She is way better player than you or me, so I think her 'arrogance' is justified.

[Yume]

@drealmerz Place them on yourself, cos I am fed up with your 'you're all idiots except me' attitude.

[Yume]

Read your ISO, drealmerz, and I guarantee you there are plenty of instances where you outright insulted many different players......

p-edit:

If you die, you can only win with

The State

faction.
Upon death,

The State

faction gains viewing access to all Private Threads that you were a part of.
Upon death, you gain access to the factional chat for

The State

faction.

But of course, that part doesn't exist cos you say so. >.>

[Yume]

Everyone, let's bow down to drealmerz, cos he is a God and he is always right, and he is entitled to call other players idiots and swear all he wants, but once they do the same to him, he throws tantrums

[Yume]

critisizing someone's play is not insulting players

You were criticizing players, not their play. Your ISO is riddled with instances of 'X sucks', and not a single one says that 'X's play sucks'.

For instance, you call me and Titus stupid and arrogant respectively and you never once referred to OUR PLAY being dumb.

[Yume]

But sure, make whatever excuses that help you sleep at night. I know your type, they all criticize players instead of play, and they know that, but they prefer to lie and say they are criticizing the play to save face. You are not the first to do so, either.

[Yume]

Others have put me on ignore before multiple times, and it's time I do the same. drealm, you are officially nonexistent to me.

[Yume]

And now you are trying to goad me into an argument so you can insult me some more. *weary sigh* Been there, done that.

[Yume]

Believe me, if I didn't get my role, I'd be replacing out right now, but I am not giving up my sweet neighborhoods just because you piss me off.

[Yume]

I am that person who is unlikely to give up a role or a flavor they love......

[Yume]

As a matter of fact, I won't protect either of you, cos you don't deserve it, and would probably make me mad in PT as well.

Change target to Vaxkiller

[Yume]

@drealmerz Prove me wrong by saying 'Yume's play sucks' rather than 'Yume sucks' and then applying the same treatment towards everyone. I want you to criticize the play rather than players.

[Yume]

Well, some people won't see it that way. Some people will assume that yo think thy suck as a player unless you specifically mention their play sucks, so keep that in mind.

[Yume]

Hell, even the rules of this site say that you should specifically mention 'X's play sucks' rather than 'X sucks' when criticizing.....

[Yume]

And no, not all the times you criticized people are centered around Moonie. In fact, I was around when your feud with Moonie started. You criticized first and when she called you out on your BS is when yo started your blood feud with her. Either way, you are not a wholly innocent party antagonized by big bad Moonie.

[Yume]

I was just on a walk and found my neighbor horse eating a foil balloon.

FUCK ALL THE PERPETUATORS OF TRASH, CONSUMERIST OBLIVIOUS FUCKSTICKS WHO CONTINUE TO DESTROY THE PLANET BECAUSE THEY LIKE SHINY THINGS AND HAVE NO ACCOUNTABILITY

And then this. Let me guess, Moonie made you feel compelled to insult your neighbor's horse?

[Yume]

Vaxkiller's town, the others are null.

[Yume]

And the bit about her joining the stat is there in the flipped role PM, so unless you are arguing that they didn't have that part in their original role PM, they knew all along they would join the state upon dying. Their win condition may have been townie, but the part about them joining the state upon death had to have been a part of their ability.

[Yume]

They might have not known their wincon, but that they had to know they joined the state upon death, cos that info should be separate from the wincon.

[Yume]

Like there is a citizen flavor, then the abilities, then wincon, so even if the wincon was obscured, their abilities, which joining the state upon death should fall under, wouldn't be obscured.

[Yume]

@Titus I see him as null.

[Yume]

VOTE: RR

My scum sensors are pinging.

[Yume]

Why don't you have Vax as conftown?

[Yume]

Yes. I swear it on my fortune.

[Yume]

And for that matter, why do you have me as scum. I have proven that my ability makes people BP, and even if I am scum, that alone should allow me to live for some while.

[Yume]

Here's the deal, I think you are both scum, and that's why we are scum to you.

1. Get rid of protective role and power hoarding/roleblocker role, both of which can hinder your night actions and stop your kills
2. Kill whomever
3. Lynch some poor sucker who still believes you are both 'conftown'
4. Profit?

Oh, and the fact that neither of you are dead further damns you both

p-edit: It's proven because he is the main character.

[Yume]

Then explain why you both survived the night as masons and why scum killed a not-conftown first?

[Yume]

And no, I am not calling you scum because you scumread me, I am calling you scum because you doubtcast Vaxkiller.

[Yume]

I am not that great at convincing people, but something about you two is fishy and I will shove it down people's throats if I have to so the Dead can win.

[Yume]

An unacceptable answer. Scum tried to feed me that bs before. 'She isn't a threat', they said 'she can be dismissed easily with lame excuses' they said

And then I smacked them in the rear.

[Yume]

You and RR are scum faking masons, that's why you survived, and that's what it has to do with you. And I already said why Vax is conftown, so I am not repeating things for scum convenience.

[Yume]

drealmerz and Lisanna are your cheerleaders, by the way.

[Yume]

It's true because you didn't die. Give me a direct answer on why you didn't die rather than simply saying it's because you're town and I'll tell you why Vax is town.

[Yume]

@Titus Don't bother, he'll continue beating around the bush. Just vote RR.

[Yume]

I def wouldn't kill McMenno. I happen to be a firm believer that scum should kill conftown, and this is true regardless of alignment. Now stop making lame excuses or eat rope. That goes for both of you.

[Yume]

Yami: So you're saying scum you would kill me but scum you wouldn't kill someone else and then try to WIFOM the town with why scum didn't kill me?

"Give me a direct answer on why you didn't die rather than simply saying it's because you're town"
How am I supposed to answer a question that's impossible for me to know the answer to? Is this even a real question?

If you don't answer, then the only way to prove you're both masons is for one of you to die so that the other is confirmed and the potential scum pool is lowered. It would also help you achieve what you want, others scumreading me. Ergo, it benefits all your agendas for one of you two to die: your mason claim becomes the truth and I become a prime suspect. You know what needs to be done.

[Yume]

And yeah, I should totally believe you are masons despite none of you dying when it's customary that conftown die as soon as legitimately possible. Cool story bro.

[Yume]

And yeah, I should totally believe you are masons despite none of you dying when it's customary that conftown die as soon as legitimately possible. Cool story bro.

[Yume]

Okay, let's assume you are correct and I am scum. As scum, I would know that Vax is not a part of my faction and say he's conftown as a result. Since you have me as scum, this means you should have put Vax as conftown immediately. Which you didn't do. Ergo, you don't really believe I am scum and are faking the belief that I am so you could mislynch a LHF.

[Yume]

This is yet another point on why you're bsing, the first being you are both still alive, and scum wouldn't kill themselves. You aren't doing yourselves any favors with this blatant fearmongering.

You asked whether I would do WIFOM kills as scum? Not by choice, I assure you. I don't do wifom kills as scum, unless my partner forces me to.

p-edit: Because he is not a mason like you claim to be. Maybe Lappy could give me a straight answer that could convince me. Lappy, why aren't either of you dead, given that you're masons and scum love killing conftown. 'WIFOM' is an unacceptable answer for someone of your calliber, not to mention that scum would def kill you if you are mason, because you'd wreck them otherwise. So again, why aren't you dead, Lappy?

[Yume]

Am I the only one that thinks Yami's logic doesn't add up? Am I missing something that's obvious?

Work with me here. I am trying fo figure out why conftown isn't dead and you aren't doing yourself any favors by saying 'I don't know' and 'cos WIFOM', especially not when you scumread me, who doesn't do WIFOM kills.

[Yume]

Exactly. You shouldn't believe anything I say, but it works other way around too. You expect me to believe you are masons despite the fact neither or you is dead and therefore there's no way to verify your claims? Well, I don't.

[Yume]

Tht's just an added reason. The main one is that neither of you died when you should have. There, I spelled it out for you.

[Yume]

Also, why am I scum, pray tell? Because I voted your ''partner' right out of the gate? Because my ability gets in your way?

[Yume]

@Moonie Permission to out that thing?

[Yume]

No, not the neighborize, but the fact I make both me and my target unkillable and generally untargetable, meaning you can't kill them despite wanting to. You scumread me despite this ability because you don't want me to use it anymore and thus get in the way of your kills. Don't play dumb, not with me.

[Yume]

I outed it in public, and I outright told Lisanna as well..... -_-

[Yume]

Anyway, not saying anything else till I hear back from Moonie.

[Yume]

Wait, that is my ability.

[Yume]

That's the name of my ability, so anyone else who claims it is theirs is lying.

[Yume]

Are you claiming that its the name of your ability as well, Lappy?

p-edit: Are you berating me?

[Yume]

If it's true, then take a break. Your health is more important than some game.

[Yume]

Confusion has arisen over the 'flavor names' on player rolecards.
Every single Citizen Rolecard has the same progression of flavor names for abilities, even if the abilities themselves are different.
These flavor names include the following:
"HE COULD NOT SAVE HIMSELF; HOW COULD HE SAVE US?"
"FOR ALL THE BLOOD HE SHED, YOUR BROTHER FAILED US."
"WHY DO YOU CRY FOR HIM?"
"GIVE US THE ROPE!"
"GIVE US A GRAVE!"
"THERE IS NOTHING YOU COULD DO."
"DON'T TURN YOUR BACK ON THE CITY."

These are GENERIC flavor names intended to mask the true flavor of Citizen Role PMs and to provide non-town factions safe flavor names to claim.
Just because another player has the same flavor names as your role does not mean they have the same abilities as you.

You mean this? There are seven flavor names here and we can't all have all seven of them as our ability flavors.

[Yume]

From the pool, yes, but we can't all have the first one listed, someone has to have a different one from the pool.

[Yume]

Why is the third option not applicable, Lappy? What is it that makes it impossible that you and Xiao are scum together?

[Yume]

It does when people refuse to listen to reason otherwise.

[Yume]

Why is the third option not applicable, Lappy? What is it that makes it impossible that you and Xiao are scum together?

The options: (From my PoV)

1.) Game setup.
2.) One party initiated
3.) An outside party targeted to create.

The outside party targeting to create is a pretty low probability. That leaves it as either 1 or 2. #1 contains the possibility of scum together, but we're not scum. From your PoV you can only read our actions and posts to decide that for yourself. But since we're not scum, it's pretty obvious from my PoV exactly what happened. That obviousness combined with a piece of information we and Titus have is what provoked my actions.

I won't apologize for them, even if you guys go all derp on us and lynch us over it. I didn't lie when I told my friend cheet that I wouldn't make such a claim based upon my reads, because I don't trust my reads that heavily. I had a much different reason for my actions. Titus knows it (but is refusing to talk to me because I was so shocked by what she's doing I yelled at her, or at least I'm assuming that's why she won't talk to me).

This game is almost spot on in line with what I did in mafiaception, except in mafiaception I didn't have an IC come in and take away the most important part of the gambit. Instead, I made scum shoot me multiple times en route to a perfect win, which was the idea here. Combine Suikoden organization from Titus with gambit similar to mafiaception and then roll to a perfect win. That was the plan anyway.

~D

If you expect me to read your mind, I can't, so make it more understandable for someone not privy to your thoughts and POV. If you can't do that unless you're away from prying eyes, tell it to Xiao, I'll recruit him and he'll deliver it to me.

[Yume]

So you wanted to be shot? Then why weren't you shot?

[Yume]

Besides, Moonie clearly scumreads you if her posts are any indication, so whatever piece you shared with her was not enough to make her townread you, and it makes me townread either of you even less, since you - who are both conftown - didn't die.

So if you want noose, then by all means, continue playing mind games with me, just like that time you used a player I got along well with to lull me into false sense of security.

[Yume]

That still doesn't explain why neither of you is dead. Scum have tendency to shoot masons, and I experienced it a couple of times. Am I really that stupid for wondering why you aren't dead given this experience?

[Yume]

And yes, you are, and I am much more wary of you after you pretended to be on my side in SU2 and then cut me up early on. I will not let something like that happen again.

[Yume]

Stay out of this drealmerz. This is between me and them, and it's kinda personal.

[Yume]

Still don't trust you, but okay. However, if you ain't killed tonight, then one of you will have to be lynched for the sake of confirming you as masons.

p-edit: Lisanna isn't dead. Lisanna left for the State.

[Yume]

Stay out of this drealmerz. This is between me and them, and it's kinda personal.

fooo on this this is game content, geebus

if I were caught up I'd be voting you (:

Oh sure, vote the only protective role.....such a smart idea.....

I'll be back when the new moon comes.

[Yume]

Change target to Xiao

[Yume]

You can't be NKed while my power is active.

[Yume]

It is true.

[Yume]

Didn't I say I am a protective already?

[Yume]

Which question?

[Yume]

yes, with Titus, and it protected her from NK and every other night action.

[Yume]

Yeah, that's not bs, it's literally my role.

What reason would I have to lie?

[Yume]

I do have a protective ability, so you lying.

VOTE: drealmerz

[Yume]

It's because the protective part spans the entire night.

[Yume]

It's activated during the day, yes, but actual effects start after the day is over.

[Yume]

Anyway, stop asking about things you clearly know nothing about.

[Yume]

Are you dense? The protective ability spans the night.

Day Action: Neighborize Titus. Titus is given a BP modifier which lasts the night.

[Yume]

Are you saying that my protective ability doesn't last during the night? Cos that's what you seem to be implying, and that makes no sense.

[Yume]

Yeah, sure, pin it all on me. Screaming that I am lying when I am not is such an audacious move, akin to hiding in plain sight, like Bouurbon does. Nobody suspects him so far and nobody suspects you, because no scum would fling themselves in the open like that. Congratulations, you successfully cajoled some players into believing everything you say, to the extent of trying to make everyone believe that my ability doesn't do what it does.

p-edit: Oh, really? Didn't you profess that there are no protective abilities that are in play during the night a minute ago?

[Yume]

here, I will even use your language to demonstrate how strongly I feel that you are scum: stop using half-baked truths, ffs

[Yume]

No, I didn't miss it. You said there were no protective abilities active during N1. Well, mine was

[Yume]

some of my knowledge is that there was no ability in effect N1 that could have prevented a kill on N1

While mine does activate during the day, it's still active during the night, which means it could prevent a NK during the night, therefore, you are lying here.

[Yume]

Okayk, can yo people each tell me your reasons for scumreading me?

[Yume]

Yeah, you're scum. You are using the same pattern scum generally use. And the same is true for you. It'd be easy for you to detach yourself from your guilt once I flip town.

But since there's no way to prove I'm town other than my flip, I guess you'll have to lynch me.....

....and here is my early last will: Lynch drealmerz. Do not let him sweet-talk you into letting him live after I flip town.

[Yume]

The pattern where scum try to discredit me using nonsense and weak-ass reasoning. It has been used on me by nearly ever mafia member I went up against so far, and you are using the same pattern they used.

[Yume]

Check Mini Theme 1936 and SU2 for reference and you'll see the pattern.

[Yume]

FYI, RR was scum in both games listed above and he used the same pattern, a pattern they taught to you in your scum PT. That's why I suspect you.

[Yume]

drealmerz is my push.

[Yume]

You're Moonie's push

[Yume]

No.

[Yume]

Not for hers. Mine is because of Vax discrediting

[Yume]

vote Drealm-
bc sheeping Titus semes like the best move atm given my inability so far

this is just bad to do, you have no reason, and are sheeping someone who hasn't even been around, doesn't even know why desp isn't voting, and has a huge ego bias against me

egh, wish this slot was more votable

I scumread you log before she did.

[Yume]

And he has his facts wrong. He told fuzzy only Moonie was pushing him when that's simply not true.

[Yume]

I said only titus was pushing me?

yes

[Yume]

Oke

vote Drealm-
bc sheeping Titus semes like the best move atm given my inability so far

this is just bad to do, you have no reason,

and are sheeping someone who hasn't even been around, doesn't even know why desp isn't voting, and has a huge ego bias against me

egh, wish this slot was more votable

[Yume]

He could still be State, and State is our enemy too.

[Yume]

And how can you be 100% sure the State wincon doesn't conflict with ours? Do you know something we don't?

[Yume]

@RR But why are you so sure they can win with us is what I'm asking.....

[Yume]

@RR It's weird that you immediately assume that the State can win with us, especially given that you doubted the hell out of Crystal Gems - who could win with town- during SU2. Like, I don't even....

[Yume]

I don't care if they can win with us or not.

Our win con says we win when all of either faction is gone, with a deadline for each. Maybe they lose when we win. Who cares, what matters is that we win.

@Yume: I think it does make sense that both state and fod can win with town though, given how our win con is constructed. Also, I was frigging scum in SU2. It was in my best interest to make the town doubt you guys. In addition, there were no unusual details in our win condition in SU2 like there are here. There was plenty of reason to doubt you guys. In this game, we've been explicitly told we win when either faction is removed(with some caveats). That means we can not lose when either faction is removed unless it occurs after we have less than 6 remaining alive, in which case removing all tfod might mean only the state wins without town winning. It's possible that when we remove all tfod early, that state does not win, but again, that doesn't matter because WE win.

-Cerb

But the State could have some sort of thing which enables them to win without us. Did you consider that possibility? *yawn*

[Yume]

But the State could have some sort of thing which enables them to win without us. Did you consider that possibility? *yawn*

that possibility is irrelevant because we know for certain that if we eliminate FOD it doesn't matter what the state does

How do you know that for certain?

[Yume]

How do you know that for certain?

that's what the town win con says......

And do yo know the State wincon? Do yo know that they cannot win without us? Do you know that they won't try to sabotage the '6 alive' part of our wincon?

[Yume]

No, I am not voting my townreads.

Recruit: Xiao

[Yume]

Well, I can't, cos I kinda hate his attitude as well. Regardless, I townread you as well.

[Yume]

@RR So what was that about me not being betrayed by you? *frowny face*

[Yume]

@Almost Well, I don't regret a thing. I played to my wincon and realized that protecting him was my best bet. He sounded honest, and for the first time in a long time, I did what was right.

[Yume]

[quote="In post 2548, Cerberus v666"
@Yume: You were fantastic this game btw. Your engagement was great. ^^ I'm glad we were able to win together, even if you do feel betrayed now that

you'll have to live under our iron heel.

[/quote]

What?