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Catch up.
Page 1....RVS and people not reading the game set up. zzzzzzzzz
Kind of agree with the suspicions towards Maki for just wanting to end the day.
Town reading NMS and dreal atm.
Didn't care for Vijarada's entrance. 133
Page 8....not liking the Maki side of the Ginngie/Maki scuffle.
Page 10 and we are still on the first RL day. ugh.
OK...so Maki = Maria.
Maki seems a bit over reactive on her annoyance at Ginngie.
Vax tl. Can't remember which post/s it was but was feeling a bit tl on Vijarada at this point as well.
579 @ gerry...are you scum reading NMS?
LOL at gerry piling on the pg 25 "eevee wants people to do stuff for her" comment when iirc he seems to like asking people to do stuff for him.
D'oh!
(~p29) I kind of want to see gerry lynched just to either confirm or deny the suspicions NMS has been jumping up and down about.
Dang...page 30 is 23/25ths NMS. ffs....
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Day 2 catch up:
@ gerry...what is the point of this question? Other than to look interested?
I like and agree with the 2nd part of Dunn's post 789. Whoever today's block is is pretty screwed and blocking gerry again is useless (and anti-town for the lost potential).
Annnnnd Maki begins the next page (33) with a block on gerry (see my comments in the line above).
Spoiler: OBE crap
All caught up.
So if we elect a Public Mechanic any of us have the ability to use it I assume as long as we have the XP to do it.
Question is...would we want to just have the Mechanic for a) individual use or would we want to select one that b) might help us as a group? Given the mod won't confirm if scum and NK and use an action I'm not sure option b is the best way to treat the Public Mechanic and option a is probably the surest way to benefit town. My option b choice for mechanic would be neighborizer but as as b seems unlikely to succeed...
VOTE: Rolecop
I'm not really sure who I want to block. I'm townreading NMS, dreal and Vaxkiller. The others are all lumped into a kluge of suspicion or nulls. Now that I'm caught up I'll have a closer look at individuals....but until then:
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Weekend v/la prodge.Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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This also assumes mafia can't use a training xp the same night they earn it. So 1 xp per nk seems logical.In post 1039, EeveeLution Army wrote:I'm assuming mafia nk takes 1nk since iirc someone died n1 unless a town vig wants to claimTown 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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in before dreal flips out.
Your thoughts on kills taking more than 1 xp make sense.Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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I think hypothesizing the mechanics of NKs, beyond the fact it probably takes some number of xp to do one, is of little value.
I think if we can block scum and deprive them of xp and hopefully impact their ability to nk we're doing all we can for now.
Also...I assume since no one is mentioning anything...that no one got any incriminating role cop results.
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We can just speed block people and have quick ends to the day to allow town to accrue xp and vig shit. Or upgrade...or train...or whatever.Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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Go to the banned players thread.In post 1131, gerryoat wrote:wtf why was jae banned?Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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Back from v/la. Dreal loses xp's. On to the the next day.
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dreal and srceen look to be town.
Not sure why yurkin was nk'd.
Good job whoever took out Ghostlin.
Block: Assembler
Just read yurkin pm....if he killed Ghostlin then mafia didn't get a kill off. Not enough points?
I'm aiming for low points.
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@Maki...when I replaced in D2 as I was catching up on the game you were the one I suspected the most. I can't recall anything specifically. Maybe it was gut. Now it's gut and POE.
I doubt scum are going to target a team mate with a block since I believe their points are valuable to their night actions (as with everyone).
As I am towenreading most of the players on gerryoat I do not necessarily town read him for being the D1 Block. I think Ghostlin staying harmlessly on Maki much of D1 is incriminating to her along with his move to yurkin (who had been at L-2 for almost 8 pages) instead of gerryoat who had gome from L-6 to L-2 in the same timeframe.
I think Srceenplay is probably town due to the preponderance of players voting to block him D2 (though betwen Maki and gerry only Maki voted to block Srceen).
Same thing for dreal who Ghostlin was keen to block (and both Maki and gerry were blocking as well).
I can't see why scum would have nk'd yurkin and the fact the scum lost a member...combined with yurkin's upgraded ability...seems to coincidental to not think yurkin targetted Ghostlin and died for it. Which IMO means scum didn't kill.
If scum didn't kill it's either because someone made some sort of block or protective action that impacted their kill or they just didn't have enough points and were banking points to be able to kill sh;t the next night.
So if scum is low on points I'm going to target low points for my lynch vote. I.e. Maki.
I also don't like the warnings from Maki to avoid night actions on her.
@Maki...when did performing a night action on your become a no no? Last night or the night before (the same night I think you upgraded)?
What would happen if scum tried to do anything to you at night?
Also....
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mod...does the day end on 5 blocks or 5 lynch votes?Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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How does this matter?In post 1265, gerryoat wrote:
everyone was saying not to block me cause it was confirmed that i couldnt make a kill that night.In post 1264, Srceenplay wrote:What is it that you think was a consensus?Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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I'm on my phone and occasionally miss shit. No need to be a wise ass.In post 1267, gerryoat wrote:can't you read
P.edit........
Looks bad for assembler. Will digest later.
Till then...
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I targeted you the night you upgraded. Why did nothing bad happen to me?In post 1302, Maki Harukawa wrote:
The night I upgraded and if scum tried to target me well...they can target me and find outIn post 1260, havingfitz wrote:@Maki...when did performing a night action on your become a no no?
I'm off to the gym for a few hours. I plan on voting assembler as his response/explanation to mastina's claim looks bullshit.Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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In post 1205, Maki Harukawa wrote:DO NOT TARGET ME WITH ANYTHING IT WILL END BADLY FOR YOU
If I didn't think Assembler was scum with extremely elaborate excuses I'd vote you.In post 1307, Maki Harukawa wrote:Pedit 2: It depends on the action you took although If I had to guess it wasn't an action that would affect you. targetting me is 100% useless because I resolve myself
I'll vote Assembler at some point in the next day or two I guess to promote more chat but your (Maki's) upgrade doesn't seem legit either....on top of other suspicions I have voiced.Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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Why?In post 1331, drealmerz7 wrote:maki is town pretty sure
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So "don't work on me" =In post 1343, Maki Harukawa wrote:Certain actions don't work on me.
I should be able to clear myself in about 2 days if all goes right."IT WILL END BADLY FOR YOU?"
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I don't want to lynch you today.Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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Why haven't you (Mari) asked how I targetted you?
P.edit....interesting? My intent to vote Assembler over anyone else (including you) is interesting how?Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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How can he be cleared? Rolecopping him? Does the mastina block mean that little to you? You're trying quite hard to save asse's ass.In post 1349, Maki Harukawa wrote:We can outright clear asse I don't think you should be voting him.
You said it took effect the same night you upgraded....In post 1349, Maki Harukawa wrote: and I don't care for you targetted me because I was vanilla the night you did it and you didn't mess with my upgrade so I care very little.In post 1302, Maki Harukawa wrote:
The night I upgraded and if scum tried to target me well...they can target me and find outIn post 1260, havingfitz wrote:@Maki...when did performing a night action on your become a no no?Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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Why was there no 3rd death last night?In post 1351, Maki Harukawa wrote:Do you think mafia have a doctor?
A Doc claim can't be confirmed because rolecop only reveals base roles...not upgrades. Assemblers' claim is a crock of shit you seem determined to save.
Convenient.In post 1351, Maki Harukawa wrote:For the 2nd part I plea the 5th.Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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He's saying his base role was morphed by his upgrade to a doc. Upgrades are not revealable by mod's definition. And each player has a predetermined upgrade. If the upgrade modifies base role why make rule that only base role is revealable? And if Assembler's base role no longer exists...who knows what it would return now.
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Long weekend offline. Will catchup asap.Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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Maki...you rolecopped Assembler N3?Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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Can you discuss what made you even MORE confident Assembler was guilty?In post 1279, mastina wrote:(Btw I'm pretty sure I don't want to claim this extra part but there's more to our role than just the blocking and that extra is something which makes me even MORE confident in the block-guilty.)Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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If you knew (or at least strongly suspected) Assembler was town why start the day off voting them?Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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So mid-day D4 the mod gave you info leading you to believe Assembler was town. Why weren't you raising a shit fit to disperse the mislynch wagon?
I know from my catchup this morning that you were opposed, but it didn't seem as adamant as it could have been given your mod intel.Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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At approximately what time/post D4 did your mod intel confim Assembler was town for you?In post 1449, Maki Harukawa wrote:I said I had mod related info that makes him townTown 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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Can you discuss what made you even MORE confident Assembler was guilty?In post 1279, mastina wrote:(Btw I'm pretty sure I don't want to claim this extra part but there's more to our role than just the blocking and that extra is something which makes me even MORE confident in the block-guilty.)Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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^ thisIn post 1467, Srceenplay wrote:
You asked for Assemblerotws lynch.In post 1465, Maki Harukawa wrote:I lie a lot you're gonna have to be more specific
You said someone can role cop him.
You said he is confirmed.
You said he is mod confirmed.
You said I’m not explaining nothing.
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^In post 1555, gerryoat wrote:hopefully your daughter is feeling better soon.Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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I'm VT.
I rolecopped Maki N2 but amazingly it did not end badly for me.
The result was vanilla and nai.
I upgraded today but won't know what to until tonight.
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In post 1540, havingfitz wrote:In post 1443, havingfitz wrote:
Can you discuss what made you even MORE confident Assembler was guilty?In post 1279, mastina wrote:(Btw I'm pretty sure I don't want to claim this extra part but there's more to our role than just the blocking and that extra is something which makes me even MORE confident in the block-guilty.)Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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So has everyone claimed but Maki? Where's her claim with actions?Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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@mastina...
I replaced in with 2xp on D2.
Rolecopped N2 (-1xp)
Trained N3 and N4 (+2xp).
Upgraded today (-3xp) and am now at zero.
And I anticipate not being able to use whatever upgrade I have if it requires points as I do not think we are typically able to train and perform actions in the same night.So if anyone has the ability to share an XP I'd be happy to accept and use whatever my pending upgrade is.
@Maki...I hate when people say they are confirmed town when they aren't. Can you please explain more slowly how anything that has transpired in this game...or wrt your claim...makes you verified conftown? Because being upgraded to a macho neighbor ain't it. Mafia can be macho and/or a neighbor. Players have the ability to vig if you recall...the macho modifier could just prevent a doc from protecting scum!you from a Doc (mafia or town) protect. smh
And so your END BADLY FOR YOU exclamation for anyone targeting you was BS...yes? And the whole only certain actions blah bl;ah blah because you resolve yourself blah blah blah comments were all BS to...yes?Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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So your PGO ability itself is still passive. It only works if someone visits you (and you've taken theIn post 1667, EeveeLution Army wrote:
What do you mean...? I choose whether i arm myself or notIn post 1666, havingfitz wrote:
How is your PGO active?In post 1665, EeveeLution Army wrote:I love the reasoning behind me dying here. Town better win this TBH. Also Mastina i never said i was passive, my Pgo is still an active actionactionto arm.it). So mastina's point, right or wrong, is still accurate.Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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Ffs....some roles (not rolls) target players. PGO reacts to being targeted. Reacts. Passive. Doesn't target. Not active. Ffs.In post 1671, EeveeLution Army wrote:I guess thats true but by that logic every roll is passive kek.Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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OTTOMHIn post 1670, gerryoat wrote:havigfitz whats your reads?
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Zzzzzz
I'm assuming no results of interest given the silence?
Surprised an autofarmer was the nk over a roleblocker and tracker.
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1) I don't trust anyone.
2) That's not your choice.
Considering you haven't got a lynch right yet today why should anyone gaf about whether you wanna vig? If you're such a threat why are you still here?
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In post 1688, Srceenplay wrote:How what?In post 1686, Srceenplay wrote:Mastina reveals their block and it might help with Poe.Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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Does what?In post 1695, Maki Harukawa wrote:I don't think d1 mastina/Jae does that as scum...everTown 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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Srceen...did you track anyone?Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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Why the fcuk did you block me mastina?
Why are you still alive?
I wanted to see the track and/or block results before I said anything about my upgrade. My upgrade is I can target a player and if I'm aligned with that player and that player dies...their ability replaces mine. I.e. I get their ability.
I targeted mastina because roleblocker. As mastina didn't die...nothing happened.
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I just saw this tidbit.In post 1718, Srceenplay wrote:I loyal racked Mastina last night.
Mulling done.
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So essentially Srceenplay is a counterclaim to you. If he is town and telling the truth then you are scum. If you are town then he is lying scum.In post 1784, mastina wrote:
If by that, you mean this?In post 1771, Maki Harukawa wrote:mastina are we playing WWE or what
VOTE: havingfitz.
Then yes. I'm all for a turnaround this game in our favor. Turn the tables on the scum and get locktown from it.
Is this not accurate?
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But here's the thing mastina...I'm not scum. I'm town. And your flailing against what is essentially a cc to you and ignoring that for any last straw you can grasp at to make it to tonight.
So yesterday you were all for Eevee and gerryoat as scum to end the day. Yet you skip past gerryoat (who you still suspect today) and decide to block the guy getting a new unknown upgrade. Worth risking a block on me than on the next most powerful PR in the game next to your claimed one (tracker).
No way scum leaves a roleblocker AND a tracker alive over a fcuking autofarmer. On that alone at least one of you or Srceen would be scum in my book. Srceen's result and your effort at me to start this day are all I need to push me your way tyvm.
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In post 1796, mastina wrote:The fact that scum left us both alive is proof we're townTown 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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No...fitz is town. If town can shoot they need to shoot elsewhere.In post 1801, gerryoat wrote:its literally auto win lol. lynch mastina. shoot fitz. if game doesnt end, lynch vax.
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He could vote mastina.In post 1805, Srceenplay wrote:
Is there anything you can do to help win?In post 1804, Vaxkiller wrote:Great, im in the vortex.Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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Rereading a bit....
Srceen...how would you tracking mastina have indicated who "to?" kill if hypothetical town!mastina had been the nk?In post 1718, Srceenplay wrote:It felt like a value track. If she was killed I would know who do the kill.Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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I try not to make the game more difficult than it is. Almost any situation/action can be explained if people are willing to consider it.In post 1807, Srceenplay wrote:You don’t think a redirection action is likely?Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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