Danganronpa V3 Upick! Game over!

[Kaede Akamatsu]

P-edit2: Double huh?

2432 was a joke referencing tenko's flavor, as she keeps calling guys "Degenerate Males".

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Koki + Crow scumteam is impossible.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

HAHA

GUESS WHO OWES WHO AN APOLOGY NOW WIS

This was crows reaction to thinking i had just said Kokichi was conf town.
If Crows and Kokichi were both scum, this wouldn't be a thing, Either Crows is town if Kokichi is scum, both town, or Crow scum and Kokichi town.
And even then the reaction itself makes me think Crows is just... town.

Of course I was already townreading them anyway.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Like that reaction just proves that someone with an uninformed mind just got proven right, so i highly doubt Crows is scum.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

OK.. WAIT.. tou mean ONLY Tenko does that? Because I thouht that was the name if the Scum team, which what confused me about that post

Also, yeah, Tenko calls guys "Degenerate Males", her whole introduction to Kaede talks about how Kaede asks if she's uncomfortable around men, and Tenko replying that it's a greater problem than just being uncomfortable because if any "degenerate male" tried to touch her she would throw them across the room.

It's basically in Tenko's flavor to call guys Degenerate Males, and assuming culprits are guys because "Girls would never commit murder" among other things that I wont mention coz spoilers.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

If you wanna get informed on the flavor you could always get the PC demo tho!

[Kaede Akamatsu]

So like what are we gonna do now? Everything's here is kinda...dead

You could start by not ignoring my post explaining why Crows is town.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I mentioned this to A50, but since you scumread them too you need to read these posts as well:

HAHA

GUESS WHO OWES WHO AN APOLOGY NOW WIS

This was crows reaction to thinking i had just said Kokichi was conf town.
If Crows and Kokichi were both scum, this wouldn't be a thing, Either Crows is town if Kokichi is scum, both town, or Crow scum and Kokichi town.
And even then the reaction itself makes me think Crows is just... town.

Of course I was already townreading them anyway.

Like that reaction just proves that someone with an uninformed mind just got proven right, so i highly doubt Crows is scum.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Like seriously, sometimes im not sure if you're just pretending to not read when it's convenient, or just not reading.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

[cy waiting room]

[Kaede Akamatsu]

UNVOTE:

[Kaede Akamatsu]

All my leftovers are getting townier, maybe i should reconsider some of my reads.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Looking back on Crows ISO, I take back my scum read for now. Leaving me with little/no scumreads.

You're reconsidering.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Like i dont think scum would go "I HAZ NO SCUMREDZ" or something.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh and this:

*sigh* I need a break from this game.

Sounds like genuine frustration at having a hard time getting scumreads.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ultimate Pianist reads list v1.2 (no specific order within each tier):

Town:

Crows (Alisae + Shiro)
Kokichi Oma
Wisdom
Almost50 (up from Towny)

Towny:

Miu Iruma
Izuru Kamukura (Himiko Yumeno + Chisa Yukizome) <- where the hell did they go? considering moving them back down to leftovers.
hebichan
Korekiyo Shinguji (Up from leftovers)
cytheflyguy (Up from leftovers)

Leftovers:

Mavis Vermillion
Lady Lambdadelta
Shuichi Saihara

I

still

feel something's wrong here.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

<- where the hell did they go? considering moving them back down to leftovers.

Disregard, i noticed i missed some of their earlier posts

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Maybe im townreading people too easily? Or is scum literally those?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yeah no I feel this. I know I'm not the best at these games but this game feels too...towny?

Kinda, A50 and Crows are bet the game on, townreads, everyone else i can imagine being snowed by.
But as much as i try i dont see a scum Kokichi

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'll make another couple tiers to make this some sort of easier to navigate

Ultimate Pianist reads list v1.3 (no specific order within each tier):

Super Town (if any of this is scum, then i quit):

Crows (Alisae + Shiro)
Almost50

Town:

Kokichi Oma
Wisdom

Towny:

Korekiyo Shinguji
hebichan

Not as towny:

Miu Iruma
cytheflyguy
Izuru Kamukura (Himiko Yumeno + Chisa Yukizome)

Leftovers:

Mavis Vermillion
Lady Lambdadelta
Shuichi Saihara

[Kaede Akamatsu]

why is Miu towny to you?

Just general feel of her posts, but to differentiate my reads better i made 2 more tiers in my reads list.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Townreading A50 is the mistake.

You disagree with my logic from earlier?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

You're pretty much townreading everyone except the people who are inactive. You realize this, right? Look at your reads list.

Hmm I guess you're right.
Yeah im probably going wrong somewhere.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also I realized something about A50 that makes him more town than I previously thought:

From my PoV why would an hypothetical scum!A50 call attention to the mason crumb, considering Kokichi was getting lynched all they needed to do was force him to claim at L-1 or lynch him and keep the crumb secret so their team would shoot the partner, it doesnt make sense for scum to do it, but it makes sense for town who wants to stop a potential mislynch.
So im rising A50 from Towny to Town.

I disagree with this.

Oh yeah, you did.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Scraps notes and decides to start from zero.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Let's dive into some of your townreads if you have time right now?

Yeah

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Scum is going to say some things that may look town, all in an effort to fool you.

You realize that you'd be the most likely candidate for this right? You've been hard buddying me ever since i townread you.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Okay, let's talk about Miu. Can you show me some posts in particular that leads you to believe she's towny?

This one's just gut, but it weakened because of all her vote switching everywhere when she thought you were confirmed town.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

But Psyche taxi is the most boring minigame ever!
I'll do this instead

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also 100 pages is due to SOME OF US being hyperposters. (me included)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I was just reading her ISO backwards and she seems to just scum paint everything Kokichi does, but that's like the same thing Wisdom's doing so...

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I honestly cant remember why i thought she was town.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yeah, that's normal for Wisdom.
As for Miu im just gonna revoke that TR coz i cant remember why I TR her in the first place, so it probably wasnt strong enough to begin with.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Now let's talk about your Kiyo read, why do you think they are towny?

Pedit: What changed?

I misread something in an earlier post, and with the correction it sounds townier to me.

I don't know, though. I still understand why she's townreading him.

I had initially read this as "I still dont understand why she's townreading him".
With the change means that at least you can see why im feeling the way i am wrt to my reads and feels more genuine in thought.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Can you hurry up? I need to be sleeping right now.
P-Edit: No don't think so, why would he want to pocket me just to not lynch you in the end?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

The only player in here that has given me vibes of buddying me is you.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kiyo had no reason to believe I would TR him for that.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

The only player in here that has given me vibes of buddying me is you.

Oh pleeeeease, if I planned on buddying you, I would have done it from the start. I also got you more engaged into the game by scumreading you, which worked.

I didnt need your help to do that.

Anyway i'll get back to this tomorrow, i need to be awake in like 6 hours and a half

[Kaede Akamatsu]

VOTE: Kokichi

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I also got you more engaged into the game by scumreading you, which worked.

This sounds pretty fake, because if it's true then his read trajectory on me is fake.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yeah, pretty much, if he hadn't mentioned the possibility of someone buddying me I wouldnt have realized that's what he was doing, buddying is a weakness of mine.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Hey at least I came around in the end.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Hey Miu

Can you modify this into a hammer that homes into scum.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Why are you sad.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Do you disagree that he's been hard buddying me since i townread him?
Do you think he really thought he needed to scumread me to get me into the game?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

What about do you think makes you think otherwise.

?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Because he said he scumread me to get me into the game.
Generally you can tell my alignment based off whether im happy/excited or not.
He said initially that i was lacking "passion", but other people (like izuru) commented that i was happy and that's why i was town.
His read on me switched to null on the reads list which i thought was genuine progression.

But now he's just retconning that by saying he just scumread me to get me into the game.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also the question mark was coz i didnt understand the question due to the wording.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

UNVOTE:
Ok
Inb4 "Everything was going well until Kaede got paranoid because she had too many townreads"

[Kaede Akamatsu]

(expired on 2017-12-02 18:47:20)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kaede are you here?

For now

[Kaede Akamatsu]

(expired on 2017-12-02 18:47:20)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

That's my "waiting on kokichi" not the deadline, just in case someone mistakes it.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Don't worry Miu! Hang in there!

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I am now.
Also, Unlynchable has the same effect all the time, lol

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Anyway, Kaede are you here? So your basis of the buddying is that I started to change my read on you once you townread me, correct?

Rather, that you started to hard buddy me.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Anyway, Kaede are you here? So your basis of the buddying is that I started to change my read on you once you townread me, correct?

Rather, that you started to hard buddy me.

But I was townreading you before you townread me?

You were null reading me, if i recall.
Also i still dont buy your "I scumread you so you'd get engaged".

[Kaede Akamatsu]

You even told me yourself when i asked you if you were TRing me now when you posted your reads list and you said that I was null.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

What part of "i feel you started hard buddying me when i townread you" dont you understand, like the whole thing with the motive video and everything.
Maybe i'm just wrong?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Like i just have this "buddy buddy" feeling you have with me, as if you have me pocketed and got nothing to worry about.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

my

money

is on Monosuke

i lol'd

[Kaede Akamatsu]

This is based off a video game not a show and there were 21 characters we could choose from.

LOL. Silly me. I never got to actually read the list of characters as I didn't know the game, so I let Maria pick a random character for me (i.e. I didn't submit any picks myself).

Thanks, bud. I owe you one.

If you wanna get informed on the flavor you could always get the

PC demo

tho!

I guess you totally missed that.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

What part of "i feel you started hard buddying me when i townread you" dont you understand, like the whole thing with the motive video and everything.
Maybe i'm just wrong?

Okay, basically what I was asking was what area you felt I started buddying you. Okay, well look at it from my point of view, not yours for a second. It was basically only you and Crows who were defending me at one point, and I decided I was going to do the gambit. Crows, more likely to go along with it based on their personally, and you. I decided that Crows would not be a good choice because he started making posts like "I guess we'll see when he flips" Which gave me pause as to why he was just making posts like that instead of actually trying to defend me. You kept defending me, and you already had previous reason to scumread me. I figured as mafia you had no reason to keep doing the defending when you had an "easy out" to have a reason for scumreading me. You became my top townread after the gambit because of how you handled it. As mafia, you could have just played dumb and said you didn't get one, almost guaranteeing my lynch. Instead, you used it to get reactions from people. Is there something I'm not explaining correctly?

I think i should have a reply for this... but i dont.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I wish I could be as confident as you, but im not

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'm just extremely frustrated. This is the hardest I've tried in a game in a long time. And I know that's NAI, and that's fine. But, the frustrating part is people are just tunneling me for little to no reason without even trying to reanalyze me. I've tried my best to help with the hand I've been dealt, I truly have restrictions, and I've done my best around them.

And I also get tempted to townread this kind of post.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Nevermind, the MariaKuma just told me mafia's fake claims don't have to do with flavor, just roles.

Why would a scum!Kokichi point say this tho?.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Because this is AtE

Well Wisdom explained it better than i would've:

you wouldnt be kaede if you didnt

[Kaede Akamatsu]

VOTE: Monokuma

[Kaede Akamatsu]

You guys arent helping

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I feel like im in some sort of 3p LyLo with the other 2 players cross voting and throwing arguments against each other.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

[Kaede Akamatsu]

At this point every post just looks like "Kokichi is scum" "Kokichi is town" to me.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

guess whose fault that is, ali

Kokichi Oma Nov 27, 04:47pm Dec 02, 07:34pm 0 days 0 hours 496
Kaede Akamatsu Nov 27, 04:47pm Dec 02, 07:31pm 0 days 0 hours 472
Crows Nov 27, 04:37pm Dec 02, 07:34pm 0 days 0 hours 454

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Wisdom's fault for being Wisdom

FTFY

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kaede have I not answered everything you wanted answered already? Or do you not scumread Miu at all or something? Because last night you couldn't think of a reason to town read her.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

That's why I usually trust and follow their reads when I have nothing solid on my hands, while they follow mine when I have the supporting logic.

Neither of these is happening tho.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

if he was "obvscum" even i would see it. And i bet Ali too.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also lets wait for evidence before jumping to that conclusion so...

?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

if he was "obvscum" even i would see it. And i bet Ali too.

So are you saying Kokichi isn't scum because of meta?

I know literally nothing about any of you sans NM. Can you enlighten me on how he's not obvs!scum now? Or am I missing something?

No, im saying if he was obvscum, then why dont we see it, it's obviously not "obv"

[Kaede Akamatsu]

If Claire decided to put me through lolmultiball again or put in a SK, I WILL BE MAD

Same here

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Did acid and torque dissapear btw?

P-Edit: LOL

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Sorry that was so funny i left the original message there

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Did acid and torque dissapear btw?

P-Edit: LOL

The beetlejuice tells are strong with them

they beetlejuiced before i even posted their name!
That's some next level beetlejuicing!

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also Kaede
I get flashbacks to the Creature wagon in Biochem when it comes to Kokichi
please tell me yes/no if you get those same flashbacks.

and cy this is my first game with you.

now that you mention it, it does.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kokichi would you like to play piano with me?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Only if we play Der Flohwalzer

Do you even know how to play that ^_^;;

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Only if we play Der Flohwalzer

Do you even know how to play that ^_^;;

Of course! I totes know how to.

What would you think if i told you that you just enabled me to use a day desperado on you.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ok I just threw a shot put ball at Kokichi
If this misses Kokichi is town and i get executed.
If this hits Kokichi is scum and dies.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Please tell me you are joking. You were obvious town and didn't have to do something as silly as that. I would have rather got lynched than have you do something like that. Because if you die then I just get killed tonight.

Do you see a perjury video anywhere?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yeah i was trying to reaction test him because I wanted to prove him town, but he noticed i was reaction testing him anyway.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Please tell me you are joking. You were obvious town and didn't have to do something as silly as that. I would have rather got lynched than have you do something like that. Because if you die then I just get killed tonight.

This felt kinda genuine thought idk, he could have probably thought i was lying here tho.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I guess my rxn tests have become pretty predictable

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Can someone please give him the definition of shade?

shade
ʃeɪd/Submit
noun
1.
comparative darkness and coolness caused by shelter from direct sunlight.
"sitting in the shade"
synonyms: shadow, shadiness, shadows; More
2.
a colour, especially with regard to how light or dark it is or as distinguished from one nearly like it.
"various shades of blue"
synonyms: colour, hue; More
verb
1.
screen from direct light.
"she shaded her eyes against the sun"
synonyms: cast a shadow over, shadow, shut out the light from, block off the light to; More
2.
darken or colour (an illustration or diagram) with parallel pencil lines or a block of colour.
"she shaded in the outline of a chimney"
synonyms: darken, colour in, pencil in, block in, fill in; cross-hatch
"the shaded area of the diagram"

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I just want to say the fact I haven't had to prod any of you makes me happy I hope you're enjoying the game even if it took forever to set up and have a good day

Spoiler:

~Mod

I am enjoying it, thanks.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

It was really obvious sorry Kaede, Kaede doesn;t even throw the shot put ball

She does, it just happens to miss and so Shirogane #rekts Rantaro with one.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

It was really obvious sorry Kaede, Kaede doesn;t even throw the shot put ball

She does, it just happens to miss and so Shirogane #rekts Rantaro with one.

Technically she drops it into a complicated set up.

Well that's what i meant with "launched"

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh wait i typed "threw" not "launched" i thought of typing "launched" at first.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

that joke flew on top of ppl's heads.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Gah, I meant that as a future reference. I got what he meant, but just as a warning, he should do that so people wouldn't be confused.

I think you're the only one that got confused

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Can i do flower divination first.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Actually, screw that, im gonna hate myself if i dont #trustinali and ali ends up being right
VOTE: Miu

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I isod miu. Is there a case against her other than "nm isn't supposed to play mafia"?

Everyone should vote either me or Kokichi in their next post if they aren't already, I don't care if you're townreading both of us

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I isod miu. Is there a case against her other than "nm isn't supposed to play mafia"?

Everyone should vote either me or Kokichi in their next post if they aren't already, I don't care if you're townreading both of us

And you're actually doing that? Please. 1v1s can be ignored every time except apparently now.

It's kinda hard to ignore a 1v1 that's been going throughout 50% of the day phase.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Would you rather lynch Kokichi whose all we have is that he's restricted in what he can say and have some "I can upgrade" as a claim?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Anyway as far as "I dont see a ton of reasons to TR Miu" goes, I can literally see reasons to TR almost everyone, that got frustrating fast and it ended up with the least inactive people being in my "leftovers" pool, then when Kokichi asked me about it, I couldnt remember why I initially townread Miu, so I revoked that townread, at some point I got paranoid of Kokichi, but his posting lately seems very genuine, hence i would rather lynch Miu if I have to choose between the 2.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

UNVOTE:

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I wonder how many times has my read on Kokichi flipped this day phase.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Will there be a fourth Kokichi counterwagon?

let's vote Korekiyo and send him to a childrens playground with all the seesaws tho

I lol'd

[Kaede Akamatsu]

.
.
.
Shuichi is Cephrir?

Mind has been blown

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I should take it as a sign that my waffling on Kokichi is because he's scum specifically targeting me to TR him.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Why would I be able to upgrade if she can upgrade people?

VOTE: Kokichi

[Kaede Akamatsu]

If Kokichi's also claiming an ability to give inventions then im lynching him today.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Why wouldnt a hypothetical scum Miu be an inventor too, that logic makes no sense, if anything an hypothetical scum Miu has probably different inventions.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Speaking of overlapping roles Kokichi never commented on it being AI when I claimed Neighborizer after I confirmed LLD's neighborize ability.
And suddenly Miu's scum for having a similar role?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Anyway im not voting Kokichi for overlapping roles, im voting Kokichi coz a Kokichi with an inventor (on self?) ability makes no sense.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I hope this day lasts long enough for me to finish my investigation. I want to reveal the truth.

How long do you say it will take you to do that? I remember monday or something.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

UNVOTE:
(expired on 2017-12-05 14:03:36)
While this countdown is active i wont vote neither Kokichi nor Miu

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I want to give Shuichi time to read the thread and do stuff.
I also want to give Kokichi time to ask what he needs to ask in the off chance im wrong.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I have a feeling that kokichi's referring to horse a

[Kaede Akamatsu]

it's the only "self upgrading" thing that comes to mind.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Hmm serious question doe. Isn't your ability tied to your character and not the alignment? So regardless of Kokichi's alignment, how does waiting for Role Godot solve anything?

Someone isn't reading.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

The mod already said that first she choose characters, then randomized alignment and then gave them abilies tied to both of those. Hence why the mod also mentioned that scum has safe claims.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

nyeh
lemme get it right
Kokichi claimed something something upgrader?

something something compulsive self-upgrader i think

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Eh im actually back to thinking Kokichi's town.
Why all this "i want to ask the mod" shenanigans if they already have safe claims if he's scum.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I can upgrade, that's all I can say literally. I've already asked. Probably why I have these restrictions.

No, I'm not I said I can upgrade myself. Can you read, Piano freak.

An inventor can do stuff on their own will, I can't.

@Torquedra

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Eh im actually back to thinking Kokichi's town.
Why all this "i want to ask the mod" shenanigans if they already have safe claims if he's scum.

Cool, mental note to say I have to ask the mod something in my next scum game for auto-town status

Can you please not be like that, and instead go and tell me why would a scum kokichi be worried about what he can say?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Why does it feel like im the only one trying to make sense of this

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Like Wisdom, Miu and A50 have Kokichi scum so stuck in their heads that they cant help but see everything Kokichi does or says with scum tinted glasses or if it sounds towny "because towncred" like seriously, you cant be more confbiased if you tried.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Eh im actually back to thinking Kokichi's town.
Why all this "i want to ask the mod" shenanigans if they already have safe claims if he's scum.

Cool, mental note to say I have to ask the mod something in my next scum game for auto-town status

Can you please not be like that, and instead go and tell me why would a scum kokichi be worried about what he can say?

He's been going on about these restrictions for yonks, either he's scum and does have some sort of restriction or he's just faking it fir townpoints and to see if my wagon dissolves

And why cant he be town telling the truth?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Wait, a Gladiator?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well it's like the only thing that comes to my mind from the rebuttal showdown hint.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Because Wisdom is being Wisdom and A50 is being A50

Uh, what?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

1) He's using it to go LAMIST.

This is literally the worst argument i've ever heard.

He does this so that people will think he's town and will play off of it with no proof and it borders AtE.

Like, yes, scum do things to look town, but why cant it be just town and that's why he's doing things that look town? Get out of that confbias srsly.

2) I kinda am with A50's paranoia here. You can't put it past the mod to give mafia day abilities that they'd need to wait for or smth.

#ModMeta that i dont know

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Like im really tired of people going
>"X is scum"
>X does towny stuff
>"X is scum doing stuff to look towny."
>X does something
>"X is scum for doing something"
This
Isnt
Helpful.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

The past couple or so pages just make me want to flip a table.
It's like no use talking, everyone has lost their sense of reason and just decided to add scum motivation to everything Kokichi does.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Okay, so link me a game from A50 and Wisdom where they don't act this way and they are mafia. If it's so easy.

look at this

this is a ridiculous line of thinking that proves nothing at all, not about miu, not about me and almost, yet kokichi goes at lengths to pursue it

why? because it makes him look busy

how the fuck do you want me to look at this and go "omg so town"?

I acknowledge you posted this and im still processing it btw

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I dont see why's such an issue that Kokichi's asking Miu about meta to verify that her read is true.

Reminder: Kokichi's is pocketing you well, and you're letting him too.

He wouldnt be pocketing me this easy if your posts didnt come across as confirmation bias for the reasons i've stated earlier.

P-Edit: ROFLMAO that's a good one @Kokichi
P-Edit 2: I agree that Kokichi's EARLIER posts were useless questions, I even called him out on it several times, but i dont get that impression from his posts lately.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Gonna take a break.
All this bickering isnt fun to read.

I feel like im talking to a brick wall half the time.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

God! How ON EARTH would a COMUPLSIVE LIAR be a "Lie Detector" to begin with?? That doesn't make sense from a flavour PoV either, and you already claimed your role IS built around you being a compulsive liar.

Uhh because Kokichi says in the game "An experienced liar like me can detect others' lies easily"

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also, I've thought "wait, what if he really is town!" Like...I did that for a long time? I did it around the same time as you did, actually? I'm not in confbias because I've actually looked at both sides of the argument while the person I was examining was trying so hard to make up whatever he could when he doesn't make any sense.

To say I'm in confbias

means that you are too. You're looking at this from a towny perspective while I see it as scum. I've looked at both sides and this is what my conclusion is.

FIRES TRUTH BULLET

Like Wisdom, Miu and A50 have Kokichi scum so stuck in their heads that they cant help but see everything Kokichi does or says with scum tinted glasses or if it sounds towny "because towncred" like seriously, you cant be more confbiased if you tried.

No That's Wrong!

The people I've been calling confbiased are those 3, not you, I just hated your "He's doing it to appear town" stance.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ah, I found the perfect name for the: Wisdom, Miu, A50, Cy group. The brainwashed Atua group.

All game.. LITERALLY ALL GAME.. Kokichi has been taking shots at the PLAYERS and never on their cases against him. Not ONCE have I seen him respond to an argument with a counter argument. There's nothing intellectual about his posts. He's just discrediting anyone who votes him or throwing shade at them. EVERYONE who has voted, or has shown intention to vote Kokichi at some point either got SR'd by him or has been called a sheep or brainwashed and whatnot.

Well, for one, this is quite true, but i think the main issue was "aimless questions", which is kinda hard to argue against no matter your alignment.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

So reevaluate, much town, wow

See this is the kind of posts that i dont like.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

So the case now has shifted to "He has a major case of OMUGS".

This game.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Why?

Mostly coz it feels like taking a potshot at him re-evaluating under the preconception that he's scum, and not seeing if he's reevaluating because he's town or because he's scum.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Hopefully shuichi can help.

Why cant people at least respect his wish of him wanting to not be away before lynching someone?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kiyo, if you had to vote between me and Koichi right now, who would you vote?

Kokichi.

At this point I'm just repeating what Kokichi says at the same time.
I've decided I don't want to lynch him. If I go back on that, feel free to hang me. Haha.

Never forget.

Ahahaha nice one!

[Kaede Akamatsu]

TOP DEFINITION
Snowing
To overwhelm with insincere talk, especially with flattery.

Essentially it is to completely decieve with positive talk, to distract of a form. You're being reasonable and discussing with me.

I actually thought snowing was meant when someone manages to convince me they are town when they are actually scum, in whichever form, not this specific one.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

theres no way im ever moving my vote after all this resistance this wagon has seen

Because that ALWAYS means scum right?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Will there be a fourth Kokichi counterwagon?

let's vote Korekiyo and send him to a childrens playground with all the seesaws tho

I lol'd

Ahahaha.
Oh wait it was Izuru who said that anyway.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Tbh tho, I dont want to wagon someone different atm coz then we will end up forcing claims everywhere due to L-1s.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Hebichan, Kaede, Crows. Vote Miu already.

What makes you think im going to vote Miu?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Then why hasn't anyone showed me a scum game of his to prove they are 100% different?

Why dont you do your own homework?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Then why hasn't anyone showed me a scum game of his to prove they are 100% different?

Why dont you do your own homework?

I did, and I don't see anything that would lead me to believe she can't be scum here.

But did you see anything that would lead you to believe she can't be town here?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yes, her play. All she did is parrot Wisdom. I've already talked and quoted on this before.

So you're saying that the conclusion of your investigation is that she only parrots/follows the leader as scum and not as town?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

theres no way im ever moving my vote after all this resistance this wagon has seen

Me neither. May I remind everyone that Kiyo is the FOURTH counterwagon to Koki's?

Will there be a fourth Kokichi counterwagon?

let's vote Korekiyo and send him to a childrens playground with all the seesaws tho

I lol'd

Ahahaha.
Oh wait it was Izuru who said that anyway.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

i pity the people who dont see how blatantly obvious scum kokichi is

Ouch.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

In all seriousness im most likely voting Kokichi.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I want to wait for Shuichi

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I agree that we need a flip, I just feel bad ending the day before Shuichi catches up and contributes whatever he needs/wants to contribute.
He's the one that asked to not lynch before he can catch up.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

But yes im voting Kokichi unless something Shuichi says makes me change my mind...... actually even then im probably voting Kokichi.
First, because I still have this paranoia that he's just buddying me, AtEing me.
Second, because of the 2, his claim is just so ambigous it could be whatever, and im tired of all this "I cant talk about it" shenanigans.
Third, so that Wisdom shuts up already with calling for his head, if he flips scum then great, and then I can trust Wisdom's reads more.

P-Edit: Oh well.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I had lots of fun this game, thanks for modding!

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Did I scum read Crows from the get go? Did I??
Did I say the Mavis-Ali thing was unnatural and that they were Scum together?
Oh, well.. gg

Also, I suspect Mavis didn't shoot me directly. I was protecting Wisdom as the obvious NK the night I died.

I thought you could only protect females

Nope, he said if he protected a male he would lose his BP.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Was there a dead thread?

Yes there was.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Dw i was never PM'd a dead thread either, i only found it coz i went to the private topics, funnily enough seems the same thing happened to crows when i neighborized them

[Kaede Akamatsu]

For me MU doesnt look like my cup of tea, even tho i enjoy town way more than scum.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'd like to think that trying to fruitlessly dismantle Kokichi's wagon was good... until I saw his flip lol.
Also I'd like to think that for once my reads werent crap.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

You mean 54 right.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Crows Nov 27, 04:37pm Dec 19, 04:58am 0 days 20 hours 712
Kokichi Oma Nov 27, 04:47pm Dec 19, 11:26pm 0 days 2 hours 641
Kaede Akamatsu Nov 27, 04:47pm Dec 19, 11:24pm 0 days 2 hours 567

Even after only being alive D1, me and Kokichi had high postcounts.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Act 1

It all began when all of us were kidnapped and forced into this killing game.
Monokuma gave us a motive telling us that some people were Mafia aligned and we had to erradicate them.

Everyone started throwing theories, and then the culprit decided to accuse Kokichi of being mafia.

Act 2

Accusations began accumulating on Tenko, because she made a comment about RVS.
Then the culprit took the opportunity to defend Tenko against their attackers. As they already knew, the were not the culprit

Act 3

Everyone was heading to their respective labs to do their things, meanwhile, Me and Kokichi started accusing each other.
The culprit observed with a grin on their face.
As the debate heated, ???(Wisdom) decided to support me, and Kaito came in defending him.

Act 4

Kokichi brought his alibi, showing the work he was doing analysing all of our actions to figure out the culprit.
I realized his alibi was correct and decided to pursue Shirogane, who had kept mostly silent.
Meanwhile, the culprit dissapeared as all the bickering began, then a full out non stop debate started across Kaito, ???(Wisdom), Miu, Kokichi, Shirogane and myself.

Act 5

As the discussion faded, Kiyo decided that Kokichi needed to be executed, at this point Kokichi whispered to me a plan to find the real culprit.
I decided to lie about the motive video because I trusted Kokichi's plan, as everyone got confused the votes spread, the culprit realizing his plan was failing decided to back off.
Once the lie was getting too dangerous, I came clean and told the truth about Kokichi's plan, the culprit took this one opportunity to try to get Kokichi executed.



This is the truth of your lies, isnt it?

cytheflyguy, The Ultimate "idfk"

Disclaimer:

Events may have been made more dramatic than they actually were.

Disclaimer 2:

There may be some disparities with what actually happened, but i thought it would sound cooler this way.

Guess he wasnt the culprit in the end.