Mini 1965: Spongebobo Squarepants Mafiaoso [Game Over]

MathBlade · Post Post #995 (isolation #0) » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:17 am

Hi all!

Hope your holidays were good will read later tonight

MathBlade · Post Post #996 (isolation #1) » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:18 am

May my musical squid make all townies like me happy!

MathBlade · Post Post #998 (isolation #2) » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:42 am

Cephrir who’s town?

MathBlade · Post Post #1001 (isolation #3) » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:46 am

In post 1000, Alisaes French Maid wrote:Mathblade who did you targeted n1, n2, n3

No one.

I am a vt with the possibility to not be

MathBlade · Post Post #1002 (isolation #4) » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:51 am

AFM who is town?

MathBlade · Post Post #1005 (isolation #5) » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:03 pm

So who do you know about and who is town?

MathBlade · Post Post #1007 (isolation #6) » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:28 pm

So what are you doing to figure it out?

MathBlade · Post Post #1010 (isolation #7) » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:55 pm

In post 269, MafiaKid ScumPants wrote:
Votecount 1.7

Assemblerotws
(1): Nautical Nonsense
(L-6)

TywinL
(1): Sunlit Diamond
(L-6)

Porkens
(1): MermaidDan BerethacleBoy
(L-6)

Sunlit Diamond (7): Yarrrgami, beeboy, TywinL, Porkens, Cephrir, hebichan, Desperado
(LYNCHED)

beeboy
(1): Animetrix
(L-6)

Desperado
(1): A Simple Plan
(L-6)

Not voting
(1): Assemblerotws

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

Deadline: (expired on 2017-12-02 12:00:00)
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Who was scum here?

And if Yar is confirmed town why isn’t Yar driving? Yar should be saying who we lynch and vote if Yar is confirmed town still reading.

MathBlade · Post Post #1011 (isolation #8) » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:00 pm

Really tempted that Cephrir and AFM are scum based on their reactions.

MathBlade · Post Post #1012 (isolation #9) » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:01 pm

Further aided by the fact no scum quickhammer and no scum quick posts one of Tywinn or Lucky is probably scum as well.

MathBlade · Post Post #1013 (isolation #10) » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:05 pm

Every single wagon outside of that with the exception of SD was town
NN town, BB town, I am town, ASP town

So since SD flipped scum the question is why did scum bus?
Even if you mistakenly think I am scum then there would still be from your opinion scum on that wagon.

The question becomes why.

MathBlade · Post Post #1014 (isolation #11) » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:09 pm

In post 208, MafiaKid ScumPants wrote:
Votecount 1.3

Assemblerotws
(2): Nautical Nonsense, Cephrir
(L-5)

TywinL
(2): Sunlit Diamond, hebichan
(L-5)

Nautical Nonsense
(2): MermaidDan BerethacleBoy, Porkens
(L-5)

Porkens
(1): beeboy
(L-6)

Sunlit Diamond
(3): Yarrrgami, beeboy, TywinL
(L-4)

beeboy
(1): Animetrix
(L-6)

Animetrix
(1): Desperado
(L-6)

Desperado
(1): A Simple Plan
(L-6)

Not voting
(1): Assemblerotws

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

Deadline: (expired on 2017-11-30 12:00:00)
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Starting from here Tywinn’s vote becomes a swing same with TFKAP.
Makes Tywinn unlikely to be scum.

So I am thinking lucky,AFM, and Cephrir team based on voting pattern let’s see if claims match up and voting history over the game does.

MathBlade · Post Post #1015 (isolation #12) » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:11 pm

13 with four scum seems a bit much though and game would be over here.

So one of lucky, AFM, and Cephrir have to be town.

Someone tell me where I am wrong.

MathBlade · Post Post #1019 (isolation #13) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:53 am

In post 1017, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1015, MathBlade wrote:13 with four scum seems a bit much though and game would be over here.

So one of lucky, AFM, and Cephrir have to be town.

Someone tell me where I am wrong.
Where you started doing vca

Good thing facts don’t care whether you like them or not.

Fact: There is a scum on the wagon. Mathematically has to be true. Who is it Cephrir?

MathBlade · Post Post #1023 (isolation #14) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:36 pm

In post 1021, Yarrrgami wrote:
In post 1010, MathBlade wrote: And if Yar is confirmed town why isn’t Yar driving? Yar should be saying who we lynch and vote if Yar is confirmed town still reading.
I be celebratin' the piratical holiday season, and haven't had time to be reviewin' the captain's logs. I be ok with a no-lynch in any case, since it seems unlikely there be a strong-like throat-slittin' scoundrel.

Do you realize the problem with that?
A no lynch leaves us without a confirmed town to dictate the lynch.

So assuming you are confirmed town (I haven’t read how yet) then no lynch doesn’t help us.

MathBlade · Post Post #1028 (isolation #15) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:18 pm

Show me where lucky claimed doctor my eyesight must be horrible because I can’t find it.

MathBlade · Post Post #1043 (isolation #16) » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:08 pm

In post 1026, TywinL wrote:Lucky isn't doctor lol.

Also I had a problem with your post because you were afraid to take a controversial stance.

Lucky eats rope today.

MathBlade · Post Post #1044 (isolation #17) » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:09 pm

The only reasons I don’t vote is 1) I want everyone to check in and 2) I still have some VCA questions that need answering for after I drive home.

MathBlade · Post Post #1045 (isolation #18) » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:10 pm

In post 838, Alisaes French Maid wrote:VT

Alisae’s French Maid also needs to explain why they have results despite claiming VT.

MathBlade · Post Post #1046 (isolation #19) » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:11 pm

In post 920, Alisaes French Maid wrote:tbh I am a blind self watcher and I only know 1 person targeted me n2 not who did it

MathBlade · Post Post #1047 (isolation #20) » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:12 pm

This reads very much like a scum power.

MathBlade · Post Post #1048 (isolation #21) » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:12 pm

Especially with the bodyguard dying N2

MathBlade · Post Post #1052 (isolation #22) » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:39 pm

Why do you think scum didn’t target yarr btw?

MathBlade · Post Post #1053 (isolation #23) » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:39 pm

Because Tywinn died not yarr which I am still looking for why yarr is confirmed town.

MathBlade · Post Post #1054 (isolation #24) » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:42 pm

In post 709, Lucky2u wrote:Cephrir asking questions with the right amount of doubt/paranoia. He can be town for me today. NN is such town such awesome. The Purple Hair Sea wench is mechanically confirmed town right? This makes for a really narrow lynch pool for me.

At the top of that lynch pool is a bulletproof miller... this just can't live to lylo. It's setup spec, I know, but I don't see my mechanics working with his. NN you know my role, am I crazy?

I feel like I only want to consider the other people on the Hebi wagon that aren't coming off as town to me. So... TIAM, Assemble who also has a dubious claim, and Anime.

I also want to see how this changed (or not) for Lucky

MathBlade · Post Post #1056 (isolation #25) » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:49 pm

In post 627, Assemblerotws wrote:I used my Cop shot last night. Yarrgami be Town, mateys.

Got it.
Then scum feared Tywinn more. The next question is why.
With Yar being confirmed town Yar should dictate the lynch.

I get the sinking feeling Lucky Lynch is too easy but still catching up.

MathBlade · Post Post #1057 (isolation #26) » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:50 pm

In post 1055, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1053, MathBlade wrote:Because Tywinn died not yarr which I am still looking for why yarr is confirmed town.
They were investigated by assemble

Read the game

I have been. It’s just slow when I have a full time job. So I ask the key questions after a quick VCA so people can read me while I go forward.

MathBlade · Post Post #1058 (isolation #27) » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:53 pm

Mainly there’s another possibility that crossed my mind that I need to read up on.

What if Yar is a god father?

I don’t see why Yar wasn’t killed.

MathBlade · Post Post #1059 (isolation #28) » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:01 pm

Cephrir Alisae Lucky any ideas?

MathBlade · Post Post #1061 (isolation #29) » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:16 pm

Doesn’t mean you can’t provide content while waiting?

MathBlade · Post Post #1063 (isolation #30) » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:29 pm

In post 829, Lucky2u wrote:SpongeBob

You ain’t spongebob. Wanna revise the claim?

MathBlade · Post Post #1064 (isolation #31) » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:31 pm

I haven’t heard a damn thing why we shouldn’t lynch you today.

MathBlade · Post Post #1067 (isolation #32) » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:39 pm

No. You’re not a reincarnation of him as a rock and roll wizard.

You just lied about being spongebob and it has been proven.

Tell me why I should believe a damn word out of your mouth.

MathBlade · Post Post #1068 (isolation #33) » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:40 pm

Full flavor and role claim now.

MathBlade · Post Post #1070 (isolation #34) » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:48 pm

Who do you think is scum Lucky?

MathBlade · Post Post #1078 (isolation #35) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:14 am

In post 1067, MathBlade wrote:No. You’re not a reincarnation of him as a rock and roll wizard.

You just lied about being spongebob and it has been proven.

Tell me why I should believe a damn word out of your mouth.

I was subtlety counter claiming Lucky here and notice how Lucky said no claimed protectives. This is accurate. I have 0 reason to believe the claim as I received a power that could be used as a protective. It could also be used as an investigative even though that doesn’t seem to be its intent as written.

MathBlade · Post Post #1079 (isolation #36) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:15 am

My flavor for the power is also very sweet. Some would say doubly so.

MathBlade · Post Post #1083 (isolation #37) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:18 am

So it’s official Alisae’s French Maid is scum with Lucky or Scum are bussing.

MathBlade · Post Post #1084 (isolation #38) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:19 am

In post 1081, Yarrrgami wrote:-There be a lot of protection, but no evidence of strong-like throat-slittin'.

It’s a weird protection/investigative.

Mainly if I live until tomorrow I learn who the last scum is because we should 100% be lynching Lucky.

MathBlade · Post Post #1085 (isolation #39) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:22 am

Pretty much if I live and who I target lives then they can’t have done the NKs.

MathBlade · Post Post #1088 (isolation #40) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:25 am

If I do die though then it’s wifom but Yarr makes it to lylo as a player with a town cop check. Then it’s up to whoever lives to sort that.

So mainly I am just trying to figure out who I target. Whoever I target if I die is much more likely but not 100% certain to be scum.

MathBlade · Post Post #1089 (isolation #41) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:26 am

Right now I think it’s Alisae’s French Maid and Lucky.

MathBlade · Post Post #1091 (isolation #42) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:27 am

That’s the closest to a full claim as I will reveal. If I say everything scum can work around it.

MathBlade · Post Post #1094 (isolation #43) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:29 am

In post 1090, Lucky2u wrote:
In post 1083, MathBlade wrote:Lucky
Hypothetically... If Alisae is scum, was their role a lie?

Not necessarily could be a half truth or watered down or could be an outright lie or the truth. Mainly I am just trying to play a wifom game with scum like you and see what you will give me. Then I can use that to figure out what I do.

MathBlade · Post Post #1095 (isolation #44) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:29 am

In post 1093, Alisaes French Maid wrote:The thing is the game doesnt work that way and you need to full claim in lylo.

I was going to vote Lucky/Ceph now idk

No they can’t.

And that’s all I am saying right now.

Gotta work.

MathBlade · Post Post #1100 (isolation #45) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:37 am

It’s not JK.

It’s not traditional.

I really gotta go.

MathBlade · Post Post #1106 (isolation #46) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:08 am

The weather be really striking dontcha think here matey?

If ye be understanding what this clarinet player be sayin let me know.

However it be really direct. Like a staff those things sit on but not quite.

Pirate speak be super hard for this mathy one but I want you to see what I be sayin

MathBlade · Post Post #1110 (isolation #47) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:12 am

Yep.

My role is not labeled as such a protective but it’s utility here is. It’s because of the situation we are in it is a protective.

That and the fact the mod told me there is only one Spongebob last night.

MathBlade · Post Post #1111 (isolation #48) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:13 am

So lucky to me is 100% mod confirmed scum and I have every intention of voting him once everyone is ready.

MathBlade · Post Post #1117 (isolation #49) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:18 am

In post 1113, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1099, Lucky2u wrote:Hell the jailkeeper claim may not even be a lie. If doodle bob really existed for Tywin and myself, then he unlocked his power and he is doodlebob.
...

Um. Good point?

Math, what unlocked your power? Your predecessor claimed it was an unknown condition. Was it the death of Spongebob?

Yes. Hence why Lucky is mod confirmed scum as soon as he didn’t revise his claim. The mod said something like hey spongebob is dead now you have time to play your clarinet.

MathBlade · Post Post #1118 (isolation #50) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:18 am

Meaning there is only one spongebob.

Meaning Lucky’s claim is bullshit.

MathBlade · Post Post #1120 (isolation #51) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:19 am

It’s why I specifically asked him about the flavor claim.

MathBlade · Post Post #1121 (isolation #52) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:20 am

In post 1119, Cephrir wrote:Is it possible that that refers only to regular spongebob, somehow?

It doesn't seem to me like there's room for that in what you're saying, but I want to be sure.

No. It said now that spongebob is dead I have time to play the clarinet.

It means Lucky is 100% scum.

MathBlade · Post Post #1123 (isolation #53) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:27 am

So my plan tonight is to target one of Alisae’s French Maid or Cephrir and try to get an innocent or to save Yar and then note who I targeted. Mainly one innocent (assuming Yar not godfather) will make it to the next lylo tomorrow no matter what. It then becomes a matter of if the game is broken or not in that if Yar dies then I know who the scum is.

Pretty straightforward.

Will probably go for the innocent after we Lynch Lucky.

MathBlade · Post Post #1124 (isolation #54) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:30 am

Mainly I am going for the innocent in the off chance Yarr is a godfather then I have proof yar is scum and I don’t have to solve that issue but that is in the rare case Yar and I both live.

MathBlade · Post Post #1125 (isolation #55) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:45 am

In post 1115, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1112, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1098, Alisaes French Maid wrote:I still kinda just want to lynch Ceph first. But now it is prolly MathBlade and not lucky
My dude it's gonna be real hard to win this game if you're town when you just go with the opposite of whatever my opinion is.
Then again, if this is a lucky/math cc situation then I guess I don't need to worry about this option cause you ain't town.

This is a CC situation btw.

Was probably wrong on Cephrir and it’s just Alisae’s French Maid and Lucky.

So probably will target Cephrir tonight and then if Yar dies Cephrir didn’t kill Yar which means Alisae’s French Maid did.

If I die then scum has to either concede control of game ending lynch to Yar and cross vote or they have to argue Yar is a godfather despite never thinking about it before.

The alternative is to target Alisae’s French Maid who I think is scum to give a last chance to check reads.

MathBlade · Post Post #1126 (isolation #56) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:48 am

And if scum are dumb enough to try to no kill the scenario just repeats.

The full claim is that I make all targeted night actions of a player target me. It’s a redirector/lightning rod.

It’s not by definition a protective it’s only a matter of whether I seppuku or not.

MathBlade · Post Post #1127 (isolation #57) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:49 am

It’s protective because I save Yar if I die this cop claim goes to lylo.

If anyone besides me dies overnight there is no way that the person I targeted did the kill hence investigative.

And if scum no kill the dilemma remains.

MathBlade · Post Post #1129 (isolation #58) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:53 am

In post 833, Cephrir wrote:Mr. Krabs, krusty krab operating jack of all trades

I tracked beeboy night 1, I guess we decided I shouldn't give a result yet but I do have one
Night 2 I jailed tywin. This was kind of a bad night action and I admit I was sort of just mad at him but I didn't want to block yar
Pearl was my enabler so I wasn't able to use my third and final ability, a commute. I didn't ever think I was in danger of being killed so meh.

Since Cephrir is a jack of all trades and Alisae a blind watcher the only way this plan fails is if I am blocked which necessitates one of them being a liar which I

think

confirms yar since I think yar has proven their role.

So if my action doesn’t go through it confirms a liar in those two.

MathBlade · Post Post #1130 (isolation #59) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:54 am

In post 1128, Yarrrgami wrote:I think it be extremely unlikely that the maid be scurvy, by the by. The bee feller's reaction to the Night 2 kill coupled with Miss Maid's behavior durin' the claimin' be highly indicative of uprightliness.

I am afraid I disagree with you on that one Yar. Alisae’s French Maid was previously beeboy and beeboy has town markers I am not seeing yar.

MathBlade · Post Post #1131 (isolation #60) » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:57 am

Mainly beeboy/Alisae’s French Maid are too vocal. Beeboy as town is more laid back and sees what develops

MathBlade · Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:03 am

In post 1133, Lucky2u wrote:math, your role claim. would it protect the person you redirect from dying?

If scum target player X (not me to kill) or any targeted action
I target scum
Scum send all actions to me.

MathBlade · Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:04 am

This includes the NK

Hence if I target Player Y and I live and Z dies

Y couldn’t have done the kill.

MathBlade · Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:04 am

And with one scum left after Lucky that’s a hard innocent.

MathBlade · Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:07 am

In post 1132, Yarrrgami wrote:How do ye think the Whale be dyin' night 2?

Not sure tbh Desperado’s ISO is kinda sparse.

MathBlade · Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:12 am

In post 1138, Yarrrgami wrote:It be the feller with the straight-forward-like plans.

He probably be protectin' successful-like.

Sorry? Not quite sure I follow. I am an Aspie and a lot of your pirate talk is hard to parse. Please don’t change but could you use more words or something.

MathBlade · Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:13 am

Mainly it’s a reason I suspect you could still be a GF but much more likely Alisae and Lucky. Cephrir is probably town.

MathBlade · Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:19 am

In post 1141, Lucky2u wrote:you're really bad at explaining this math....

let's put some names to this and you tell me if I'm wrong.
you lynch me and win as scum with your teammate
. you lynch me and I flip scum. You target Alisae your scum read for this night action of yours. You die. What did this prove? It still means that either Alisae was redirected to kill you, or that Ceph just killed you. Does it not? So... it didn't innocent anyone. Yarr would still be in lylo deciding Alisae or Ceph.

I'm trying to give you a possibility to see lylo math, because it might make more sense to lynch between the supposedly disabled JOAT and the self watcher right now mechanics wise. I'm still a doc, you still have a claimed night action to take, and I think Yarr does too right? or was that one shot Yarr?

I plan on targeting Cephrir my town read.
In the case I die, Yar who no one scumreads goes into lylo and the other two are forced to cross vote or argue Yar is a godfather. This is protein.

In the case I don’t die Cephrir or whoever I target is confirmed town.

MathBlade · Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:20 am

And if scum opt to just kill me then they have to deal with Yar in lylo. Hence protective.

So my goal is two fold today
1) CC Lucky. Only Lucky or me are the lynch.
2) Determine if Yarr is GF through play or is town.

MathBlade · Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:22 am

So I am a protective or an investigative.

Either way sucks for scum.

MathBlade · Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:25 am

The only way this fails is if Yarr is scum and if Yarr is scum then we done be fucked more than likely. Unless I get my investigative redirect off. But today I want Yarr to show townies rather than just be town by check.

MathBlade · Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:31 am

So the plan is Lynch Lucky >> flip scum because mod confirmed.
I investigate one of Cephrir/Alisae >> We see who dies.
If I die >> Yar goes to lylo pro town. The three of you discuss.

If I don’t die >> me and target are confirmed town. I confirm player X and insta vote the other alive player.

Then confirmed town decides lylo.

TLDR Confirmed town is deciding lylo unless someone wishes to argue Yarr isn’t town right now.

MathBlade · Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:40 am

In post 1141, Lucky2u wrote:you're really bad at explaining this math....

let's put some names to this and you tell me if I'm wrong.
you lynch me and win as scum with your teammate
. you lynch me and I flip scum. You target Alisae your scum read for this night action of yours. You die. What did this prove? It still means that either Alisae was redirected to kill you, or that Ceph just killed you. Does it not? So... it didn't innocent anyone. Yarr would still be in lylo deciding Alisae or Ceph.

I'm trying to give you a possibility to see lylo math, because it might make more sense to lynch between the supposedly disabled JOAT and the self watcher right now mechanics wise. I'm still a doc, you still have a claimed night action to take, and I think Yarr does too right? or was that one shot Yarr?

No mechanics wise it makes sense to lynch you.
The person who claims a flavor that cannot exist despite the chance to correct it.

Tywinn most likely died as he was gonna hard vote you.
Yarr probably had a chance of being deceived.

MathBlade · Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:43 am

In post 270, MafiaKid ScumPants wrote:
A Lynch has been reached!

This citizens of Bikini Bobo got off to a slow start to their day. Things had ALWAYS been peaceful here. Surely there weren't pirates, ghosts, evil plans or anything of that nature here!

So they claimed, and so they doddered around peacefully in their days, although a certain fish was not too popular.

"She failed me no reason, I didn't run that light!" one fish cried.

"She's so FAT!" another cried, and that fish was noted shitlord and awesome fish Chess S. Kid, Esquire.

Both of these were true, for SunlitDiamond was none other than Mrs. Puff.

As the flyers went up around town the people raged.

And so the mob gathered, ready to run her out of town and cast her down to Rock Bottom.

It was only after they had done so, that they realized there might very well be something sinister afoot here after all!

Sunlit Diamond,
Mrs. Puff, Remedial Driving School Instructing Roleblocker
, Lynched Day One

Night One
It is now Night one. Please submit your actions, should you have any.

Night One will end when this handy dandy countdy downty reaches zerosies

(expired on 2017-11-28 12:00:00)

This FYI is probably the roleblocker meant to stop me.
Since Cephrir already claimed jailkeep that pretty much makes Cephrir lock town if dealing solely mechanics.

Mechanics wise Cephrir is more lock than Yar because GFs are a thing.

MathBlade · Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:50 am

In post 566, beeboy wrote:Thanks for protecting me ASP

See this here is more weird than anything else.
Only scum know who got protected.
I don’t see anything in ASP’s ISO that hints at it.

Not seeing the townie response here.

MathBlade · Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:51 am

In post 487, A Simple Plan wrote:
In post 482, Cephrir wrote:please feel free to regale us with your reasoning

it's going to come down to your vote, so...
Yknow, a quick ISO of Beeboy doesn't give anything blatant from D1 to sort him. Investigating, especially if one believes their role to also tell alignment (as Hebi claims), was a fair thing, especially considering Beeboy's place on that lynch as first sheep is a decent spot for scum to sit and bus without as much risk. Calling him scum for that isn't an objective read.

I wanna hear why Desp is such a good wagon after hammering scum D1 as a joke. I can't read that as a hardbus no matter how much I disliked the Miller claim earlier in the game.

In this post ASP calls beeboy scum. Why would ASP protect a scumread?

MathBlade · Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:03 pm

By Snakey Dragon you mean Hebi Chan?

Alisae’s Flavor Maid what was your flavor again? I know it is there in the thread just I have to make my doubloons.

MathBlade · Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:05 pm

Oh and by the way intent to vote Lucky here soon since I seem to be the only one asking questions. Hopefully I die and then the three of you can sort lylo but if not the innocent will be sweet.

MathBlade · Post Post #1155 (isolation #78) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:46 am

K I know what I am doing tonight.

If no one posts by 3 pm my time that will have been 24 hours to object to voting.

MathBlade · Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:14 am

VOTE: Lucky2

Confirmed scum pure and simple.

Two spongebobs do not exist.

MathBlade · Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:15 am

In post 1158, Lucky2u wrote:
In post 1156, Yarrrgami wrote:I remain concerned about my non-demise, which doesn't make a lot of sense with any configuration of scum unless they acquired a trick to auto-win by killing the debt-repayin' feller.

At the very least, if we be feedin' the lucky rabbit to the sharks, I be requestin' that the hakuna-matata sea-piggy be castin' the final vote.
Why are you still alive? Because I'm a doc, scum knew I'd be protecting you so Tywin is obviously the kill since (bonus) two town were CCing each other. It's a free victory.

No. Scum needed spongebob gone like Tywinn said.

MathBlade · Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:16 am

I know what I am doing tonight btw.

If this is my last post I townread Cephrir pretty damn hard. Please remember that.

MathBlade · Post Post #1163 (isolation #82) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:38 pm

So Alisae’s French Maid: How does it feel to be scum with Lucky?

MathBlade · Post Post #1164 (isolation #83) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:02 pm

And if you aren’t why is Yarr or Cephrir?

MathBlade · Post Post #1165 (isolation #84) » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:47 pm

In post 1157, Lucky2u wrote:Still waiting on mod to answer me.

Why exactly does anyone think me scum over math? I don't know what the disconnect was between me and tywin, maybe some crazy night 0 action that made us both informed, but math is claiming to have unlocked a power right after SpongeBob died. A power noone can verify because he "didn't know" what it was until it unlocked so he got to see everyone claim and know he could essentially claim anything. While I claimed early and have an action that could have been verified if we had the right roles. Do you know what TWO roles having unlocked powers by the death of the same player is? It's BS. It's not symmetrical. He is just doodlebob and somehow me and Tywin fucked that up.

VOTE: Math

Hint: Only one spongebob exists and they are dead.
You claimed doc and yet haven’t saved anyone all game.
Doc JK and BG and redirector/lightning rod is bullshit.

You didn’t claim true flavor when given the opportunity.
Tywinn votes you super hard core and caught you.

I am just disappointed I didn’t vote you yesterday.

MathBlade · Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:56 am

Guys I know we have 11 days to lynch lucky but we need to actually talk.

MathBlade · Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:51 am

I am not trying to be convincing.

As you put it I am stating facts.

You are eating rope today. You claimed something that cannot exist.

If I am wrong in this then we lose. Therefore it is more about stating the realities and letting people see them.

MathBlade · Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:52 am

Where is everyone anyway?

MathBlade · Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:22 pm

Sure. Vote yourself

That’s the hang scum man I am interested in.

Otherwise I don’t want to flood the thread.

MathBlade · Post Post #1174 (isolation #89) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:54 pm

It shouldn’t.

That wouldn’t follow the normal rules for strongman.

It would have to be strong willed.

Strongman pierces protection.
Strong willed avoids redirects.

I find that doubtful unless it’s you which I doubt.

Everyone seems seriously sweaty about it.

MathBlade · Post Post #1175 (isolation #90) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:00 pm

Strong-Willed is a role modifier; it usually means that the player's abilities cannot be redirected or Roleblocked. However, any result that may be attained can still be tampered with by roles that alter informational results, such as Framer. In short, it greatly increases the chance of the player's ability working like the player wants it to.
Some moderators will ambiguously use this to mean that the strong-willed player cannot be recruited (by Cult, Neighborizer, and so forth). If you are not sure, consult with the moderator.
Strong-Willed is not to be confused with Strongman.

From the wiki.

Considering Alisae’s French Maid (I think?) said there weren’t deviations from normal and they pushed for me to be JK. Makes me think that they have the tools for old roles not mine.

There’s a reason to how I claimed to get reactions.

MathBlade · Post Post #1176 (isolation #91) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:07 pm

The easiest way to remember is a strongman is like a tank in D&D can punch through anything but can be guided around really easy as if on strings.

Strong willed is like a rogue or wizard, smart enough to avoid the strong problem but too weak to penetrate walls.

MathBlade · Post Post #1177 (isolation #92) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:11 pm

In post 1102, Lucky2u wrote:While I'll concede that the mod seems to have been creative given the roles claimed and flipped titles, I don't think he has been too wildly off normal. There is no other investigative protect that would confirm a player like a jailkeeper. If that is not their claim, they are scum. Time to look for a partner and Ceph makes more sense than Alisae

My bad it was Lucky.

There’s actually been a couple of roles outside normal already.

Lucky was trying to figure out what he could defend against.

Notice the change in tone when he thought he could convince me to go elsewhere versus when I hard CC’d and then when I had intent to vote.

MathBlade · Post Post #1180 (isolation #93) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:48 pm

In post 1179, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1177, MathBlade wrote:Notice the change in tone when he thought he could convince me to go elsewhere versus when I hard CC’d and then when I had intent to vote.
To be fair, if he is town that would have confirmed you as scum to him.

Why would me going “You’re confirmed scum”

Be different than “intent to vote”

If anything the first is more damning.
The fact he still didn’t consider me scum until the intent to vote.

MathBlade · Post Post #1181 (isolation #94) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:49 pm

In post 1141, Lucky2u wrote:you're really bad at explaining this math....

let's put some names to this and you tell me if I'm wrong.
you lynch me and win as scum with your teammate
. you lynch me and I flip scum. You target Alisae your scum read for this night action of yours. You die. What did this prove? It still means that either Alisae was redirected to kill you, or that Ceph just killed you. Does it not? So... it didn't innocent anyone. Yarr would still be in lylo deciding Alisae or Ceph.

I'm trying to give you a possibility to see lylo math, because it might make more sense to lynch between the supposedly disabled JOAT and the self watcher right now mechanics wise. I'm still a doc, you still have a claimed night action to take, and I think Yarr does too right? or was that one shot Yarr?

This is AFTER I said Lucky is confirmed scum to me.

Why would town!Lucky give me a chance to see lylo?

MathBlade · Post Post #1182 (isolation #95) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:50 pm

In post 1111, MathBlade wrote:So lucky to me is 100% mod confirmed scum and I have every intention of voting him once everyone is ready.

MathBlade · Post Post #1183 (isolation #96) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:50 pm

Why would the second intent be any different than the first?

MathBlade · Post Post #1184 (isolation #97) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:52 pm

In post 1133, Lucky2u wrote:math, your role claim. would it protect the person you redirect from dying?

This is not a “Hey Math is saying I am 100% confirmed scum I should ya know react. Instead he fished. I countered appropriately to get as much info from scum as I could.

MathBlade · Post Post #1185 (isolation #98) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:55 pm

In post 1178, Cephrir wrote:"Strongman is a role modifier that signifies that any kills performed by this player cannot be blocked by any means - neither by Bulletproof, nor by Doctor or other protective roles, nor by Roleblocks."

I guess that's not redirection but it seems potentially unclear

It isn’t for redirection. That’s the point.
It explicitly said blocked, not redirect.

I’ve been around the rodeo enough times to know exactly how to make scum give me what I need to succeed.

MathBlade · Post Post #1186 (isolation #99) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:39 pm

Ohhh Yarrr where art thou our pirate player?

MathBlade · Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:26 pm

No.

It is a hard CC of your flavor not your role.

The mod told me Spongebob is dead.
This leaves 0 room for another spongebob.

Ergo a hard CC of flavor not of role.

MathBlade · Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:27 pm

In post 1189, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1181, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1141, Lucky2u wrote:you're really bad at explaining this math....

let's put some names to this and you tell me if I'm wrong.
you lynch me and win as scum with your teammate
. you lynch me and I flip scum. You target Alisae your scum read for this night action of yours. You die. What did this prove? It still means that either Alisae was redirected to kill you, or that Ceph just killed you. Does it not? So... it didn't innocent anyone. Yarr would still be in lylo deciding Alisae or Ceph.

I'm trying to give you a possibility to see lylo math, because it might make more sense to lynch between the supposedly disabled JOAT and the self watcher right now mechanics wise. I'm still a doc, you still have a claimed night action to take, and I think Yarr does too right? or was that one shot Yarr?
This is AFTER I said Lucky is confirmed scum to me.

Why would town!Lucky give me a chance to see lylo?
OK fine I wasn't paying attention.

Okay now that you are what do you think?

MathBlade · Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:28 pm

In post 1188, Lucky2u wrote:It's that "mod confirmed" bit you keep throwing out that is where you went to far. Nothing about your role would confirm the existence of another flavor, forget giving you a guilty of any kind. This mod has already shown time and again (when they are here...) That they just don't answer questions when you try to fish for info for them. So no one in this town should believe for a second that a role that was given out in this game went from knowing nothing about their second level, to gaining a power, and then that player got the mod to answer questions about unrelated roles. Especially since the mod wifom'd the setup at the start with the multiple SpongeBob comment in the rules. But to you, and to you only, he confirmed that there is one? Nope you got greedy right there.

Correct it was in my PM that told me my new power.

MathBlade · Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:29 pm

And furthermore you are mischaracterizinf it.

The mod told me Spongebob died here’s your power.

Spongebob died is a known fact.

You botched your claim and you can eat rope.

MathBlade · Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:33 pm

Okay.

Let’s take that premise here.

Assume I am town. Scum haven’t quick hammered me.

What do you draw from that?

What furthermore do you draw from Alisae not commenting on the cross vote?

(Similarly do the same for Lucky town)

It means we are TVS and I am the T.

MathBlade · Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:01 pm

In post 1162, Alisaes French Maid wrote:i guess I confirm I see this?

@Cephrir here ya go.

MathBlade · Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:03 pm

In post 1197, Lucky2u wrote:
In post 1193, MathBlade wrote:And furthermore you are mischaracterizinf it.

The mod told me Spongebob died here’s your power.

Spongebob died is a known fact.

You botched your claim and you can eat rope.
So now you are minimizing. Got it.

Hey isn't there already a claim on the table from a dead town player that there is a scum role that gets it's power from SpongeBob dying? I'm just going to keep bringing that up because it's pretty funny that you took what I imagine was your safe claim and tried to pass it off as town after it was already leaked what you really do.

No I am not minimizing merely restating again.

Tywin did say there was something like a doodlebob.

However that doesn’t mean that that is the only thing that exists. It’s a logical fallacy.

In a recently completed scum game I have there were three informed roles. However no one role was informed of everything and they were not all together informed of everything.

MathBlade · Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:05 pm

You can keep bringing it up all you like but it won’t change your role PM to be a town one.
It won’t change the fact you’re scum.
It won’t change the fact I am town and got a mod confirmation you are scum and have been extracting bits and pieces from you the entire time.

Repeat what you like but reality doesn’t change based on how much you say something.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:55 am

Because the scoundrels wanted to make Lucky look better perhaps.
Or they believed they needed whatever doodlebub ‘s powers are to get out of this pickle?

Those just came to the top of my head.

There is also the possibility you not being upright but that wasn’t the question.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:43 am

In post 1209, Yarrrgami wrote:
In post 1207, chesskid3 wrote:
Spongebob SQUAREPANTS Mafia

image

Flavor/Mechanics:
This game is based on SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS. If nautical nonsense be something ye not wish, don't sign up!

Number of Players:
13

Hydrae:
Max of one, must PM me for approval, currently UNavailable.

Restrictions:
WOTM

Pre-in spots remaining
:
5

4

3

2
0 ALL GONE FOLKS

REASONS TO JOIN THIS GAME

Chesskid moderated game means there will be awesome mod content

Explicitly
not guaranteed to be balanced - There might be 3 Spongebobs just so I can watch you all CC each other all day

Who doesn't love spongebob?

There might be is what is said in the signups.

However I have mod proof that there is only the one.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:46 am

In post 1225, Yarrrgami wrote:I don't think it be the maid.

If we assume the lucky rabbit feller be scum, then it's extremely strange that his partner hasn't voted him yet.

While I have serious misgivings toward it, I don't think I can justify ~not~ feedin' the lucky rabbit to the shark given that he has claimed a similar mechanic to the debt-repayin' feller, yet his be implemented in a wildly different way without the captain admittin' to havin' made a mistake in deliverin' orders to the crew. This is doubly true given the lucky rabbit feller has done absolutely nothing to avoid his game-losing lynch if town.

I find it very difficult, however, to come up with a reasonable explanation for why a team-o'-scurviness that includes the lucky rabbit feller be behavin' as they have been.

I think we're feeding lucky to the sharks, though I have the request that the irrational mathematical feller place the hammer vote, and that it be recognized that if he survives tomorrow and claims to be targetin' the NK victim, he be scurvy (and he probably be scurvy if he be survivin' regardless).

This is not happening.

I have 0% plans to Unvote the feller.

This reads like you want to mislynch me at some point.

Me no likey but I am at work.

Pretty much the only person I trust at this point is Cephrir.

What made you change from Cephrir having hammers to me?

In lylo you want your top townread to have hammers.

If you’re considering me as potential scum the last thing you want is to give scum hammer.

Like what?

Will explain later but wtf.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:52 am

In post 1229, Cephrir wrote:
In post 963, TywinL wrote:Ecto and Lucky are scum.

Lucky is scum by fakeclaim.

Ecto is scum by refusing to claim and stalling.

Discuss.
>___>

There is a non zero chance Yarr is a GOdfather.

Remember this if I die.

Pedit:

If Lucky is a super saint then we’d be need to be lynching the Maid or Yarr. I would lean the Maid. However Yarr is never going to do that. So if Lucky is a super saint then lucky kills me and confirms what I know or has to take out someone and then we lose. Which is bs because lylo. But honestly if we lose to supersaint that would be bs.

I am okay with that risk.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:01 pm

In post 1239, Lucky2u wrote:
In post 1237, MathBlade wrote:If Lucky is a super saint then we’d be need to be lynching the Maid or Yarr.
Yes... Your town read in this 1v1 said this folks.

Townread doesn’t mean right.

However I will review the game tonight with that in mind:

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:04 pm

In post 1239, Lucky2u wrote:
In post 1237, MathBlade wrote:If Lucky is a super saint then we’d be need to be lynching the Maid or Yarr.
Yes... Your town read in this 1v1 said this folks.

Yes I did.

In other words if we have evidence you’re a super saint we shouldn’t lose.

However absent of such evidence there is no reason not to Lynch mod confirmed scum.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:12 pm

In post 1243, Lucky2u wrote:
In post 1242, Lucky2u wrote:
In post 1241, MathBlade wrote:mod confirmed scum.
You keep using that term but I don't think you know what it means...
EBWOP

When the mod confirms who scum is to you or the group.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:24 pm

Yes it does.

Because Spongebob died.

Grammar. Means there is only one Spongebob.

Not my problem you fucked up dude.

Again repeating things doesn’t make things true.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:40 pm

Oh and Yarr+Cephrir team officially rejected.

I don’t think anyone had that team but that team woulda won.

So unless you think it’s Yarr+Alisae is Alisae+Cephrir one of us should be scum in your eyes.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:49 pm

I be assumin that’s for the rabbit feller?

Does the purple haired pirate have any questions for the mathy one?

I will do my best to answer them late tonight.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:02 pm

In post 1250, Yarrrgami wrote:I don't have questions for ye at this time beyond that ye recognize:

1) ye be hammerin' the lucky rabbit feller since if he be one of those super nice fellers who be killin' people when they get fed to the sharks, ye be the only reasonable partner at this point.
2) Ye should not be alive tomorrow. If ye be alive tomorrow and "somehow" don't have an innocent (i.e. ye conveniently target the NK victim), then ye be claimed scurvy.

Ye need to be recognizing I have no inention of unvoting the Lucky feller. I said this. Come up with a new plan purple haired pirate.

It could be possible I be alive if I target someone who lives and ye be a godfather or now the scoundrels decide to kill my target.

Who knows I might just target you.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:04 pm

If I be the only logical partner also ye be needing a reread as well ye pirate.

I just be hoping Cephrir and Alisae’s French Maid show ye that you be wrong by posting at the same time and Lucky be scum.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:06 pm

In post 1252, Cephrir wrote:You won't unvote even to revoke again shortly thereafter?

Why not?

Unvoting in Lylo is a recipe for disaster.

You never ever Unvote in lylo.

Lucky is confirmed scum.

I am majority scumread.

My vote will never move. There is no benefit to me hammering.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:09 pm

Now if Yarrrgami can explain the benefit to having someone who they supposedly scumread have control of the game that makes sense and why me having hammers is good for town I will listen.

However when Alisae’s French Maid posts tonight then Alisae + Cephrir is also gone so from Yarr’s perspective one of us has to be scum.

In that case giving me hammers means he might as well vote Lucky himself.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:10 pm

In post 1256, Yarrrgami wrote:You will unvote when the time is right, or I will vote you and you'll lose the game regardless of your alignment.

Again, explain why I would gamethrow?

Unvoting mod confirmed scum is gamethrowing.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:12 pm

In post 1259, Cephrir wrote:I don't think Yarr is unaware that at least one of you two is scum.

Then “giving me hammers” means we are lynching Lucky and he might as well Lynch Lucky and then he should have hammers if he is really as confirmed town as you say.

It doesn’t make any rational sense to give a scumread the ability to hammer in lylo.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:14 pm

In post 1261, Yarrrgami wrote:Because forcing me to vote you is ~actually~ gamethrowing, whereas unvoting so that ye can be the hammer-vote is just unvoting so that ye can be the hammer.

The only reason the Unvote is asked is because you are.

The more you ask for me to gamethrow is the more likely you are a fucking godfather.

I am not forcing you to vote me.

If you genuinely believe that Lucky is scum over me that is where your vote should go.

This isn’t rocket science.

The towniest person should have hammer which is the tusks guy.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:16 pm

In post 1263, Cephrir wrote:Yarr thinks you are the most likely scum buddy for lucky and wants to make sure youre the one who blows up if he's a supersaint.

It's a fringe case and not really worth the number of protests that have already been expended on it.

Agreed. All voting/lylo abilities are off in lylo else it is Bastard Mod.

Supersaint hated etc are all turned off in lylo.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:21 pm

Alisae’s French Maid has not been reading the thread for starters

Secondly supersaint is always off in lylo.

If it is on I no longer give two shits about this game.

I just simply refuse to gamethrow by unvoting.

Hated is always off in lylo so is loved.

This has not and is not a recent development.

Most role PMs say so explicitly.

I am not ever considering supersaint. Ever.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:22 pm

In post 1268, Yarrrgami wrote:Heck, the FakeGod game where town was never permitted to lynch was non-bastard.

I don’t know if this game but if you take away the ability to Lynch it isn’t mafia.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:23 pm

Furthermore if Lucky is supersaint we just lose.

Because then Lucky kills me NK hits a townie.

Then GG.

We lose.

If Lucky is supersaint we just LOSE.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:25 pm

Now Yarr is doing his damned job as confirmed town or you are. Supersaint is off in lylo for this very reason.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:26 pm

Right now three town are alive.

If Lucky is supersaint and I hammer.

This means I die. The NK hits a townie.

We LOSE.

One scum versus one town alive.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:27 pm

There is no way anyone would hammer any scum in that case.

The partner can just say what if supersaint.

No. Supersaint is always off in lylo.

Y’all can just fucking hammer Lucky and be done with it.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:29 pm

In post 1279, Yarrrgami wrote:Ye continue not to read.

I don't care about that, since if ye be uprightly, there be no super-nice-like feller.

And if I be uprighty and then there is no super saintly one and then it is irrelevant then you saying I or Cephrir should have hammers.

You also never addressed my question.

Why did you originally pick Cephrir for hammers.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:31 pm

This is fucking bullshit.

Fine here I gamethrow happy?

VOTE: unvote

Whoever of you is town needs to go back and learn how lylo works.

Never Unvote in fucking lylo

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:34 pm

Now if Lucky be the supersaint fella we are going to fucking lose if the mod doesn’t respect the fucking rules for supersaint.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:36 pm

VOTE: Lucky

Hammer

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:36 pm

Now if Lucky is a supersaint you owe me all the shits post game.

That rule is fucking made for super saint and bullshit.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:37 pm

Oh and I am targeting Yarr.

I just don’t trust him if I live

Or am I?

MathBlade · Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:55 pm

I picked Yarr because I wanted to die and had to rule out the possibility of Yarr scum.

I was hoping whoever was scum would believe I would target in Alisae and Cephrir and then kill them and try to frame me.

I was really hoping Yarr was scum so I would be dead and then you three could decide if by the end.

I had Alisae down first because then Cephrir who I townread would work with Yarr to lynch Alisae But Yarr paranoia kept creeping in.

I was thinking Yarr was just a rolecop but loud to Spongebob.

In short I lack an innocent.

I almost changed it to Cephrir thinking I had another day to decide:

MathBlade · Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:58 pm

However I think Alisae is the scum over Cephrir.

I don’t see scum being given three roleblockers.

That just seems far fetched to me.

And yes I deserve ever bit of yelling post game I just had to know if Yarr could be trusted and I really thought scum would keep him around after our fight yesterday.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:58 pm

I did yesterday.

I pick a person and redirect their targeted action(s) onto me.

I picked Yarr.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:01 pm

In post 1310, Alisaes French Maid wrote:Give me time before you vote me pls

what are all your targets this game?

As I said yesterday I did not inherit my power until Spongebob died.

You just aren’t reading.

If you’re town you would have at least read. Damn.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:02 pm

And because it is the proper lylo play I will but daaaamn you make it tempting just to go yolo and vote you.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:05 pm

In post 1313, Alisaes French Maid wrote:I mean I still have this mystery where someone targeted me n2 and I have no idea who did that

Well it wasn’t me and you might just be lying about that?

MathBlade · Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:27 pm

Yarr’s reads were utter bullshit when I played with him.

He didn’t follow lylo 101 which is people don’t Unvote and the crossers are always opposite alignments.

So like saying Yarr said something has 0 weight to me.

Second why would Cephrir scum kill Yarr?

Yarr townread the both of you. That’s bonkers.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:28 pm

In post 1315, Alisaes French Maid wrote:
In post 291, beeboy wrote:uhhh.. my role is kinda elaborate.

2. if you wanted to know hebi idk if you actually get the description to know what it means but yeah.

uhhh.. my role is kinda elaborate.2. if you wanted to know hebi idk if you actually get the description to know what it means but yeah.
After having my role card checked I claimed the number 2

Also it was night 1 I had 2 visitors
N2 I had 1
every other night I had zero.

I was never roleblocked this game.

Fundamentally irrelevant. I have crumbed and claimed as scum.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:29 pm

In post 1317, Alisaes French Maid wrote:Unless I spent the entire game just wifoming kills just for the fun of it

Because scum was trying to win right there.

They didn’t count on me CCing Lucky.

That’s the only thing I can think of.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:37 pm

But it’s hebi. I love you hebi but self watcher is NAI imho.

Especially if you’re scum and you give off investigations as your fake claim or the mod gave you a town role.

I don’t see it as scum aligned but I don’t see it as town aligned either it just is.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:37 pm

I have used a town sounding role to be “townfirmed” before.

Mainly I want Cephrir to come in and say words.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:43 pm

Scum had Sunlit and Lucky?

I am just trying to work devil’s advocate.

If Cephrir is scum why three roleblockers? And nothing else?

Unless Cephrir lied?

MathBlade · Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:44 pm

@mod: I am guessing there is 0% chance of telling us what instructing means? If not please do so.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:12 pm

In post 1330, MafiaKid ScumPants wrote:
In post 1329, MathBlade wrote:what instructing means

intructing

direct or command someone to do something, especially as an official order.
"she instructed him to wait"
synonyms: order, direct, command, tell, enjoin, require, call on, mandate, charge; literarybid
"the union instructed them to strike"
2.
teach (someone) a subject or skill.
"he instructed them in the use of firearms"
synonyms: teach, school, coach, train, enlighten, inform, educate, tutor, guide, prepare, prime; upskill
"do not attempt to operate the binder until you've been thoroughly instructed"

@mod: In terms of mafia, what is instructing for a role?

MathBlade · Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:28 pm

Kinda figured but it was worth a shot.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:09 pm

In post 1335, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1306, MathBlade wrote:I picked Yarr because I wanted to die and had to rule out the possibility of Yarr scum.

I was hoping whoever was scum would believe I would target in Alisae and Cephrir and then kill them and try to frame me.

I was really hoping Yarr was scum so I would be dead and then you three could decide if by the end.

I had Alisae down first because then Cephrir who I townread would work with Yarr to lynch Alisae But Yarr paranoia kept creeping in.

I was thinking Yarr was just a rolecop but loud to Spongebob.

In short I lack an innocent.

I almost changed it to Cephrir thinking I had another day to decide:
I thought I had made it fairly clear I wasn't ever going to lynch yarr even if you died, so that was a mistake even if we couldn't now see the outcome :/

I was having faith that you’d reevaluate like what you always tell me to do because I can be a stick of mud. Not much but with Yarr saying the extra kill and all that stuff I kinda just couldn’t take the risk Yarr was scum and so I just made sure if Yarr had an extra kill I would have died twice.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:11 pm

In post 1344, Alisaes French Maid wrote:idk i think it's just math

Assume it’s me incorrectly

Why the fuck would two people inherit powers from doodlebob and be scum?

Why would I CC and “bus” Lucky and then not kill you or Cephrir?

MathBlade · Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:14 pm

In post 1347, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1344, Alisaes French Maid wrote:idk i think it's just math
Assume it’s me incorrectly

Why the fuck would two people inherit powers from spongebob and be scum?

Why would I CC and “bus” Lucky and then not kill you or Cephrir?

Ugh so tired

MathBlade · Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:04 am

My thoughts are one of you and/or Cephrir are lying.

In terms of voting history
With how you posted after the cross vote that you “see this” kinda felt like you were waiting for Yarr or Cephrir to vote me to win. The fact you didn’t decide anything really perturbs me.

How people who suspected Cephrir continually dying though is also a really good point.

In terms of mechanics:
Hebi saying your role/character seemed town is irrelevant as you could cop as something innocent sounding and/or just be lying.

I am have way tempted to think Cephrir is a liar because of that. I just don’t know why you or Cephrir would target Yarr.

Unless Cephrir thought I would be targeting him and then thought it’d be a different scenario.

My gut says it’s Alisae’s French Maid but logic says Cephrir.

MathBlade · Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:06 am

But I also don’t see the same things I saw from Gay Mafia which Cephrir was obvScum.

But I also threw mechanics to the wayside because the scumminess was obvious.

Let me look at votals knowing Yarr is town now. See if a narrative emerges. Will look tonight.

MathBlade · Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:46 am

In post 833, Cephrir wrote:Mr. Krabs, krusty krab operating jack of all trades

I tracked beeboy night 1, I guess we decided I shouldn't give a result yet but I do have one
Night 2 I jailed tywin. This was kind of a bad night action and I admit I was sort of just mad at him but I didn't want to block yar
Pearl was my enabler so I wasn't able to use my third and final ability, a commute. I didn't ever think I was in danger of being killed so meh.

MathBlade · Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:48 am

You said you had a result here for beeboy.

What was it?

If beeboy/Alisae is only a self watcher then you wouldn’t have a result as they would go no where same as being roleblocked. So what result did you get?

MathBlade · Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:58 am

In post 1360, Cephrir wrote:
In post 840, Cephrir wrote:confirming i saw you go nowhere.

Assume there is a kidnapper.

How can you confirm this versus being kidnapped?

I am trying to find all the kidnapper’s actions and I don’t see them all.

MathBlade · Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:05 am

In post 853, Alisaes French Maid wrote:So one of you fucks is lying to me I had a certain someone visit me night 2 cause I am a self watcher.
And now that everyone claimed I can now start yelling at you guys.

Whoever is lying claim now or I am treating it as a scum claim.

MathBlade · Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:08 am

In post 1363, Cephrir wrote:Assuming the kidnapper exists they only used their ability once but if bee were the kidnapper i'd presumably have seen him visiting the targets. plus, it would most likely have been in his rolename and there's no way hebi could mess that up. so if he's scum then either it's a factional ability or the dreaming god did it.

1) Not if bee targeted you or a factional ability. If you’re kidnapped then that is a roleblock yeah?
Why would you think your abilities work through a kidnapping?

It kinda makes me think there’s a factional role cop ability and you knew you’d need to tell the truth about. Kinda makes me think you’re then scum who visited Alisae’s French Maid/beeboy.

MathBlade · Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:15 am

Uhmmm that seems like compulsive dreaming god?

Compulsive seems like actions you don’t want to do you have to do:

MathBlade · Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:18 am

A god in most mythological senses creates destroys takes away and is all powerful

Since the people came back unharmed sounds like dreaming god.

MathBlade · Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:19 am

In post 1370, Cephrir wrote:It's possible. We don't know. Removing Porkens at that time seems a bit scum motivated, as he was under some suspicion and was scum.

I agree I don’t know.

Without knowing what these roles do it’s hard to say but I think removing Porkens was town not scum motivated.

MathBlade · Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:20 am

As to you knowing that depends on if you are scum or not.

Really not feeling well.

MathBlade · Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:24 am

There’s no way 100% I could have done it either.

I am confirmed only to have gotten my power after Spongebob died.

MathBlade · Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:24 am

I am just sleeping. There’s time to figure this out.

MathBlade · Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:14 pm

Let’s assume for a moment I was literally anything else. I would then be lying because of what my prior slot said (and against my role PM and I am town but whatever).

MathBlade · Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:16 pm

In post 832, Animetrix wrote:Squidward, Conditional Talented Clarinetist is my full flavor/role name. Was too lazy to look yesterday.

MathBlade · Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:16 pm

In post 836, Animetrix wrote:Just says I'm bad at the clarinet, but if I keep practicing something good might happen. Something like that. And I'm basically a VT until then.

MathBlade · Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:24 am

Prod dodge since out with friends tonight

MathBlade · Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:07 pm

Looking over the votes it really looks like Cephrir more than Alisae’s French Maid

But based on play I feel it is Alisae’s French Maid.

I am kinda leaning towards listening to my brain here. Cephrir when you’re back convince me I am wrong.

MathBlade · Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:46 pm

Who is beethingperson?

MathBlade · Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:47 pm

Like it’s super quiet here...

All by myself...

Needing someone to talk to find the last scums.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:10 am

...I really want to see both y’all interact and I feel like it’s nothing but “I am not here” good luck. It fucking sucks.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:11 am

In post 4, Cephrir wrote:Hi guys

Some or all of my role hints that random flavor claims may not be a good idea. If we could all keep our shit to ourselves for once, that would be swell.

VOTE: hebichan just because.

How does this match with your JOAT claim?

MathBlade · Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:14 am

In post 158, Cephrir wrote:I've reviewed all his posts with more care and would like to withdraw that townread and express the opposite. I didn't go back to the beginning of the game before posting.

I liked him playing around, but the fact that he went from "QL assemble" to voting porkens, then calling for more votes on porkens, then calling his own vote rvs makes for a rather odd trajectory.

Explain how you hard defended the Porkens slot who flipped scum when people commonly flip votes in RVS.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:14 am

In post 228, Cephrir wrote:
In post 224, Porkens wrote:
In post 222, Cephrir wrote:
In post 220, Porkens wrote:
In post 218, MermaidDan BerethacleBoy wrote:I would like to remind everyone that

Explicitly not guaranteed to be balanced - There might be 3 Spongebobs just so I can watch you all CC each other all day
Massclaim?
Stop.
ScareD?
[post]4[/[post]

This exchange is also super interesting.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:20 am

In post 349, Cephrir wrote:At least to me -- whether there are other things like my role floating around I can't be sure.

This reads like you’re trying to goad people into flavor claiming.

Which makes sense as Porkens was AFK day two and so the last scum would have to seem townie.

And the fact Lucky2u flipped enabled by Spongebob dead and tried to frame me for that.

I think the only reason you bussed yesterday was to try to set yourself up for lylo.

How’s that for “vca”?

MathBlade · Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:36 pm

It makes it look like you’re a scum traitor looking in or one of the two of you is a traitor.

Porkens wrote in 224 ScareD? The SD are capitalized. SD is the abbreviation of Sunlit Diamond.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:36 pm

In post 4, Cephrir wrote:Hi guys

Some or all of my role hints that random flavor claims may not be a good idea. If we could all keep our shit to ourselves for once, that would be swell.

VOTE: hebichan just because.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:38 pm

In post 66, Cephrir wrote:Plankton

If I follow correctly Plankton is a character on this TV show.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:41 pm

In post 62, Cephrir wrote:
In post 60, TywinL wrote:This is my first time playing theme. Do people ever massclaim their character? Does it do anything? Like if we are playing in Spongebob themed game, does that mean that for example, Plankton is scum?
He might be, but it either doesn't work like that or scum have fake flavors they can use.

People like to puke out their roles lately for no adequately explored reason.

This is incredibly ironic if you be scum Plankton.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:42 pm

In post 69, Porkens wrote:
In post 66, Cephrir wrote:Plankton
Oink

Furthermore here looks like another hand off like Yep I got you. You’re a fellow piggy.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:44 pm

But a Traitor in this setup hand cuffs them a whole lot. Like I mean I see it in the posts but mechanically makes no sense.

MathBlade · Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:47 pm

In post 1399, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1396, MathBlade wrote:
In post 349, Cephrir wrote:At least to me -- whether there are other things like my role floating around I can't be sure.
This reads like you’re trying to goad people into flavor claiming.

Which makes sense as Porkens was AFK day two and so the last scum would have to seem townie.

And the fact Lucky2u flipped enabled by Spongebob dead and tried to frame me for that.

I think the only reason you bussed yesterday was to try to set yourself up for lylo.

How’s that for “vca”?
Again, I was doing everything I could to prevent flavor claims at that point.

I mean sure, I probably do bus there if I'm scum, but what of it? I was widely suspected going into yesterday, so why would I make that Tywin kill and sacrifice Lucky? That'd put me on a path to lose the game.

Actually it's great, I can engage with this.

Assuming you’re scum....

Because Lucky was widely suspected and you’d need the cred.

You’d expect me to die from targeting you until I targeted Yarr because I feared the extra kill and this Yarr became the safer play.

You probably wanted an Alisae’s French Maid Yarr and you lylo where you could have wifom’d my death to mislynch Alisae’s French Maid.

MathBlade · Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:06 am

Hmmm Alisae has tomorrow to provide content or I am siding with the person who gives a damn and that I was right in TRing you yesterday.

MathBlade · Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:48 am

Countdown for Alisae’s French Maid to provide content:

(expired on 2018-01-20 12:48:51)

MathBlade · Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:00 am

No the timer remains or I will be voting you.

I am sick and tired of the prod dodges.

If you say you’re going to provide content on a certain day fucking do it that day or eat rope.

MathBlade · Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:01 am

You’ve been a lurksac since Lucky v Me.

Show me you want to win.

MathBlade · Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:53 am

In post 1391, Alisaes French Maid wrote:Sorry won't have time until friday most likely.

Friday has come and passed and no content.

VOTE: Alisae’s French Maid

MathBlade · Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:50 am

I am not saying those things aren’t important.

They are.

However I am judging you by missing multiple self imposed deadlines for content. I am not judging you by having RL. I am judging you for saying Friday. I am judging you for saying “tomorrow” and not delivering. I do not trust Saturday will bring any more content. As the rule goes if you seriously don’t have time replace out.

How the fuck do you expect me to read you when you aren’t even here?

MathBlade · Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:51 am

In post 1383, Alisaes French Maid wrote:prod dodge

In post 1391, Alisaes French Maid wrote:Sorry won't have time until friday most likely.

It’s literally been a week with zero content.

MathBlade · Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:53 am

In post 808, Alisaes French Maid wrote:Ceph ur supposed to not make your kills so obvious

MathBlade · Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:55 am

Yet Alisae’s French Maid doesn’t push Cephrir today at all.

It’s like she believes I am the easier mislynch so she pushes me in what little posting she has.

MathBlade · Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:56 am

Well played Cephrir. Well played sir.

*tips hat*

As I said before I lost to someone here so I will take it as an honorable loss. Well done sir.

MathBlade · Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:57 am

In post 1434, MafiaKid ScumPants wrote:Also very surprised the reads of the N1 scum kill were so thoroughly ignored!

I didn’t just Cephrir convinced me to ignore my VCA damn it.

MathBlade · Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:58 am

I stand by it has caught you every time you were scum.

I only listened to it once though.