Mini 1965: Spongebobo Squarepants Mafiaoso [Game Over]

[Cephrir]

Also, everyone in this game may be a power role.

[MafiaKid ScumPants]

Votecount 2.3

hebichan

(3): Yarrrrgami, Desperado, Cephrir

(L-2)

Desperado

(3): beeboy, TywinL, Animetrix

(L-2)

Not voting

(3): hebichan, A Simple Plan, assemblerotws,

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

Deadline: (expired on 2017-12-12 20:00:00)

Prodding beeboy and assemblerotws

[Cephrir]

Youve got to love how a pretty solid case goes up against "lol he hammered scum" and it's somehow a contest

[Yarrrgami]

We think Hebichan is an idiot.

We think she got a rolecop PM and believed it also received alignment information, and despite this, she is so dim-witted that she didn't even consider how this would interact with a miller. She is far too incompetent to put two and two together and realize that there's no way a miller is in the same game as a role that not only detects the role name but also its alignment.

We also think she doesn't know how to count. We think she went into night 2 with one scum dead and thought there were so many left that it was better to confirm her townread on a player rather than target her solitary scumread or the player who just quickhammered.

We think that she is so senseless that when given the result of her role, at which point she discovered that she received only a role title, and then when a massclaim was suggested, rather than wait to her Beeboy's claim which she would be able to confirm/deny, she decided to instead tell everyone that she was a rolecop who had visited Beeboy.

We think her ability to type is so profoundly impaired by her meager intellect that she couldn't spell "A Simple Plan" or even abbreviate it to "ASP," and was thereby unable to vote or mention him until prompted to, despite him being someone she professes to want dead and considers it such a foregone conclusion that he wasn't worth investigating.

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I don't be thinkin' the snakey-dragon is dumber than a sack o' cannonballs like ye lot. I be respectin' her intelligence.

I be thinkin' that every one o' those reasons ye be callin' her a dummy be easily explained by her simply bein' scurvy and makin' common errors that novice-like scurvy dogs make.

She didn't rolecop the miller because he had already claimed and, as a scurvy scoundrel, she gains nothing from doing so. She didn't consider that her non-scurvy self would obviously target the claimed miller, so when confronted with that, she had to pretend she misunderstood the role and that she believed it also got alignment information. Unfortunately for her, that also didn't make much sense because she would be targetin' her professed scumread, the deckhand with the straightforward-like plans. She then had to make up a reason why she didn't do that but instead targeted the bee feller.

She didn't think about how her non-scurvy self would have interacted with the bee feller's role information, which would be to try to get him to claim and see if he be tellin' the truth. When confronted on this, she pretends that she didn't understand how to use the role since she had never had it in any previous voyages. This doesn't hold water, since she's been on plenty of voyages and has surely

seen

the role in action, which is all that's necessary to be able to consider its utility.

[Yarrrgami]

The funny thing about all this is that 201 is already reason enough to be feedin' the snakey-dragon to the sharks, given that she hadn't mentioned the sunny diamond scoundrel prior to that.

It actually be a little similar to the gun-slingin' matey throwin' the diamond to the sharks in that neither one had established the position presented when the action occurred, but the critical difference be that the snakey-dragon's statement be to the benefit of the scurvy scoundrels, while the gun-slingin' matey's action be hurtin' them.

[Assemblerotws]

VOTE: Hebichan
If this is town, Yar is next.

[A Simple Plan]

Half tempted to YOLO it like Desp did, but I feel like the Beeboy investigate isn't nearly as AI as it may appear on the surface.

[Cephrir]

please feel free to regale us with your reasoning

it's going to come down to your vote, so...

[Animetrix]

No, I think desp is the preferred lynch here.

[Cephrir]

No, I think desp is the preferred lynch here.

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[Cephrir]

like if you want to disagree with yarrgami, please go ahead and disagree instead of pretending their posts don't exist.

[beeboy]

Prodding beeboy and assemblerotws

advance content post here.

[A Simple Plan]

please feel free to regale us with your reasoning

it's going to come down to your vote, so...

Yknow, a quick ISO of Beeboy doesn't give anything blatant from D1 to sort him. Investigating, especially if one believes their role to also tell alignment (as Hebi claims), was a fair thing, especially considering Beeboy's place on that lynch as first sheep is a decent spot for scum to sit and bus without as much risk. Calling him scum for that isn't an objective read.

I wanna hear why Desp is such a good wagon after hammering scum D1 as a joke. I can't read that as a hardbus no matter how much I disliked the Miller claim earlier in the game.

[Yarrrgami]

Why, if she believed that her role also gave alignment, would she be callin' ye out on bein' suspicious about the miller (198)?

Why on earth wouldn't she herself be extraordinarily suspicious about a miller claim with what she believed her role to be?

[Cephrir]

considering Beeboy's place on that lynch as first sheep is a decent spot for scum to sit and bus without as much risk

Huh?

Also, this doesn't really matter if hebi isn't providing it as a reason. We can only go on what she did say, not input made up things.

[hebichan]

Nope didn't really consider thee whole bus thing last night, my head wasn't in the game.

Also, if I thought my role gave me alignment why would I ever cop desperado?

In fact, knowing it doesn't is what makes the miller claim suspicious.

[Yarrrgami]

Let's be takin' a trip down memory lane to 198.

In case ye has forgotten, ye be thinkin' at this time:

My role says that I'm a rolecop and for some reason, I believe this also gives me my target's alignment information (357), even though I've been in multiple games with rolecops and have even discussed the usage of the role in the past (here and here, for instance)

I recognize that squiddy-daddy (who would become desperado) has claimed miller)

Now ye have decided that a miller be a completely plausible role and ye even be defendin' the claim. Ye had been sayin' that this voyage was uneventful-like shortly prior to that, so it's not as if you was be confuddled with all the postin' and whatnot.

Why did ye think a miller claim made sense? What result did ye think ye would be gettin' if ye had visited a miller?

[Yarrrgami]

By the by, ye keep makin' the lovey-dovey eyes at me, but I this point it should be pretty clear that I be not interested-like.

[hebichan]

Let's be takin' a trip down memory lane to 198.

In case ye has forgotten, ye be thinkin' at this time:

My role says that I'm a rolecop and for some reason, I believe this also gives me my target's alignment information (357), even though I've been in multiple games with rolecops and have even discussed the usage of the role in the past (here and here, for instance)

I recognize that squiddy-daddy (who would become desperado) has claimed miller)

Now ye have decided that a miller be a completely plausible role and ye even be defendin' the claim. Ye had been sayin' that this voyage was uneventful-like shortly prior to that, so it's not as if you was be confuddled with all the postin' and whatnot.

Why did ye think a miller claim made sense? What result did ye think ye would be gettin' if ye had visited a miller?

If I thought I was a role alignment cop, I would think I would get like vanilla mafioso.

[hebichan]

Look, you can lynh me and shit, just get desperado next. More I think about it less the miller makes sense.

[Desperado]

Also, if I thought my role gave me alignment why would I ever cop desperado?

In fact, knowing it doesn't is what makes the miller claim suspicious.

what?

[Desperado]

If I thought I was a role alignment cop, I would think I would get like vanilla mafioso.

then...i'd be caught scum??????

[Desperado]

because it my role card would have to say miller

because i'm a miller

and you're a cop that learns peoples role name

which is miller

[Yarrrgami]

Ye mind fleshing out ye thought processes a bit, ms. snakey-dragon.
Ye be coming close to makin' sense.

It also be worth talking a bit about who ye think is scurvy with the gun-slingin feller

[hebichan]

Desperado no one has counter claimed my cop role....Even when I was thinking my role was partial alignment.

Soooo you're claiming miller, which would be pretty confirmable if I checked you. I probably should have, but I just thought you would come up mafioso, because why the hell would a miller exist with a role/flavor cop?

The real reason I checked bee when I was pretty certain of the alignment was my own flavor, I'm called a complete idiot and I get my information from reading nametags, I wasn't really sure how little/how accurate my information would be, since my role isn't explicitly cop, it just functionally is.

I think assemble is kinda likely, I don't like the way its going, if I'm town lynch yarrrgami. I think I made a few mistakes based on my confusion and they probablt warrant the wagon.