NY 213 - Game Over!

[davesaz]

Auto votecounter, that's cool. Has it been posted how we can use it ourselves?

I don't think closely reading all of it is possible in the available time. Skimming perhaps...
Other than the obvious (current wagon and the votes therein) any suggestions on what is important to read / pointers to important events?

[davesaz]

vote vax

How much of your vax read involves vax's position on you?
I have an independent read there after doing ISO but I'm interested in this answer.

[davesaz]

people also seem to want vax dead. dunno why, i'll have to read more thoroughly for that but on the surface his posts are meh.

The meh is what grabbed me the most when looking at vax. Do you have background that says it wouldn't be scum indicative?

[davesaz]

performer is confscum. just give him an ISO and review the vote counts to get an idea.

Got anything else on performer?

[davesaz]

I didn’t notice Srceenplay I just saw someone point out he’s site flaking

Where did you see that?

I think Vax is town Vax replaced Srceenplay right

What's your Vax and Performer reads?

[davesaz]

What's up with the posts all in color?

[davesaz]

You have 8 SR's?
Can't analyze them for a while, it's time to leave work.

[davesaz]

The part of Performer's 965 about ArcAngel9 is fairly accurate.
That post doesn't explain the question about 235.
@AA9 why was Wheme town at that point?

[davesaz]

Performer's depiction of the ETL portion of 623 within 935 doesn't look as accurate. I think there was some mention about not getting answers but I don't think I've seen Performer follow up on those questions.

[davesaz]

Typo, post 965.

[davesaz]

Hopkirk, what does group A / group B mean?

[davesaz]

I didn’t notice Srceenplay I just saw someone point out he’s site flaking

Where did you see that?

I think Vax is town Vax replaced Srceenplay right

What's your Vax and Performer reads?

He’s my dad

You replied to the where you found out Screen was going to flake.
The more important question was your Vax and Performer reads.
Actually I'd settle for your reads on anyone.

[davesaz]

@dave lt looked like etl was reaching when he said tex was defending me and deflecting. I need to re ISO etl if he's saying my case is fake. I don't know what you mean about the depiction of my 623. I said he's reaching, I don't remember him responding to that.

Had there been any followups from you between those points?

[davesaz]

Heh, iso'd wave and yeah that's likely to be scum.
VOTE: Wavemode

[davesaz]

@wave, you seriously got nothing at page 41 and you're only keeping up to the point you don't get replaced? Because that's what the scumread comes from.

[davesaz]

Iso'd osuka to see for myself instead of believing others.
Saw the analysis of 452 located in 744.
Def not willing to lynch osuka, and I'd be on board with Performer now.

[davesaz]

WhemeStar, still wanting those reads please.

[davesaz]

WhemeStar, still wanting those reads please.

on who

Vax, Performer, any scumread.

[davesaz]

@Performer, explain how you got confused about who you replaced.

[davesaz]

Dave I don't understand...?

628

[davesaz]

@dave
lol that was sarcasm
Wheme was confused

I was kinda hoping that Performer would be the one to reply to that.

Was there any followup, from anyone? (before me now)
I feel that it's potentially important.

[davesaz]

wavemode, can you point me to a scumread you've stated in this game?

[davesaz]

WhemeStar, still wanting those reads please.

on who

Vax, Performer, any scumread.

Vax town performer scum

What are your reads on Screenplay and Charles?

[davesaz]

Hey, Creature is still alive. Am I missing something or has it been since before I replaced in that you were here last?

[davesaz]

IMO the case on Wavemode is an active lurking / having absolutely no scumreads worth the name kind of case.

[davesaz]

IMO the case on Wavemode is an active lurking / having absolutely no scumreads worth the name kind of case.

The case morphed into him being in a neighborhood of 3, as I've outlined

that's not why I'm voting
I'm voting for his activity feeling like trying to avoid being read

Ditto. I'm not impressed by neighborhood arguments. I'd probably design a game with 3 neighbors all town but not called masons just to play with the site meta, after seeing all these statistical arguments.

[davesaz]

I explicitly townread Osuka.

[davesaz]

Well, I'm happy that my Ausuka read is correct.
That gives huge clues, but it will take some digging to find them again.

[davesaz]

@Almost -- you'll catch up soon and then facepalm lol.

[davesaz]

Most of Creature's one-liners feel scummy to me. People constantly lecture me on how those are the things that make him town.

[davesaz]

Are you scum with one of them?

[davesaz]

I was scumreading Wave before the hood and have seen nothing to change that.

[davesaz]

The hood is immaterial. Doesn't matter one way or the other.

[davesaz]

And a scum lynch now is always equal to or better than a scum lynch later.

[davesaz]

However that said, do a good enough job selling me this Vax scumread and I might buy it. I certainly don't have a TR there.

[davesaz]

12 votes in just under 2 days is a pretty tall order. I'm worried enough about getting 6 or 7... And swinging it against some fairly forceful people pushing the top wagon.

Gotta drive home.

[davesaz]

Wavemode has no scumreads. JFC people, think!

[davesaz]

It's a tactical mistake to try to change wagons to a completely new one with such an inactive game, so late in the day.
If everyone was posting every 2-3 hours or faster it would be different. At this rate it will be hard enough to consolidate on a big wagon.

Someone's going to make the value proposition point on a Performer lynch. It is true that we get more information there, but I think the probability of it being scum is lower. For the record, I do see the things that Performer is being scumread for and would be willing to compromise there as needed. I can't tell if the town-motivated things I'm seeing from Performer are really coming from town or just scum making a decent effort at trying to save things.

I don't know vaxkiller well enough to know if the vig claim is likely to be a gambit. It would be pretty dangerous to fakeclaim as scum if there is a vig in the game, and equally dangerous to fakeclaim if there isn't one unless lack of a 2nd kill can be easily explained.

[davesaz]

WTF are you talking about, hedge?
My position is as clear as day.
I want Wavemode lynched.
If you <insert favorite term for diminished mental capacity folk here> won't lynch Wave then I'm willing to vote for Performer.
I'm absolutely not voting anyone else under any circumstances.

[davesaz]

Laughable.

[davesaz]

Replace out

Done with mafia.
See my sig.
Adios.
Fuck you very much.

[davesaz]

Replace out

Done with mafia.
See my sig.
Adios.
Fuck you very much.

pagetop

[davesaz]

damn, missed it. Closing tabs.

[davesaz]

Sorry about the abrupt exit, but I really needed it.
When you can't get to sleep at night and start getting pounding in your ears when you see a scumread on you, it's time for a break.
On the plus side there has been a lot of confirmation over several games that scumreading people with unfounded scumreads on me is a valid scumhunting tool.

[davesaz]

Good modding. Especially like everything about the VC's except not being in #votes order. Understand it may be necessary to keep this order to get the other nice stuff.
Cool survey, impressive to want that much feedback.