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[Carcalilly]

stoooooopppp

[Carcalilly]

who wants to play guess the entire scumteam at basically pregame so if you're actually somehow right you may acclaim godtier ring bragging rights

[Carcalilly]

VOTE: DVa hello

[Carcalilly]

oh god...

[Carcalilly]

who wants to play guess the entire scumteam at basically pregame so if you're actually somehow right you may acclaim godtier ring bragging rights

Carcalilly
Carcalilly
Carcalilly
Carcalilly
Carcalilly
Carcalilly
Carcalilly

Those are my guesses for the scum am I right
VOTE: Carcalilly

I remember you from like 2 years ago in a game I played with my alt.

And yes you're totally right I am the entire 7 person scumteam, godfather unlynchable strongman included.

[Carcalilly]

creature what the heck is that

[Carcalilly]

I have 4 yellows gimmie another yellow

[Carcalilly]

The one where you got really pissed when we wanted to lynch you.

[Carcalilly]

The one where you got really pissed when we wanted to lynch you.

So which game out of 10000000

viewtopic.php?p=7239428#p7239428

Guess who I was :0

[Carcalilly]

The xx208 wagon kind of sucks but I have a headache so I don't feel like explaining why

[Carcalilly]

Damn
UNVOTE:
This girl's a shepard

[Carcalilly]

...............

[Carcalilly]

bloby is my son

[Carcalilly]

The one where you got really pissed when we wanted to lynch you.

So which game out of 10000000

viewtopic.php?p=7239428#p7239428

Guess who I was :0

Hieirama if so I'm locking you as town because his my fave character from yu yu hakusho.

Holy shit, finally someone who knows about that MVP of old anime. Those two nerds were beautiful in every way.

[Carcalilly]

flubber blubber dubber what are you vote jumping for

[Carcalilly]

creature is town by default

[Carcalilly]

overwatch is an expensive tf2 ripoff

[Carcalilly]

LoL gives me traumatic flashbacks

[Carcalilly]

...ranger?

Pedit And my goodness sephi have mercy on the mod and votecounters

[Carcalilly]

do you think you could put the scores in a spoiler if you're planning to keep it consistently throughout the game? ^^;

[Carcalilly]

Hi AP

RCE is town I think

Ewww why am I town? :p but hi Ofrhz.

[Carcalilly]

profii you're not as obvtown as I expected

also this AP kid is the bomb, please don't kill them

[Carcalilly]

Honestly I will always see creature as that scumread town that's actually right about everything but generally when he realizes it is already too late

[Carcalilly]

The word scumhunt makes me shudder

Nos are you always like this?

[Carcalilly]

profii you're not as obvtown as I expected

also this AP kid is the bomb, please don't kill them

Huh?

Wait! Isn't that what you did here..?

I HAVE TO PRESS ENTER LIKE 5 TIMES JESUS

Guys Unvote implosion yallre redicilus

What are the chances you would do the same <obvious> thing in two back-to-back games?

I'm a consistent and predictable person.

[Carcalilly]

This one is scum.

VOTE: Inferno390

....but, they hardly said anything

[Carcalilly]

AP I actually have no idea what connection you're trying to make there

[Carcalilly]

I can sheep ofrhz because I'm too lazy to make my own case but I didn't like flubbers posts to begin with :>

VOTE: flubbernugget

Vote fixed. Please try to vote correctly.

[Carcalilly]

is it scum theatre because it looks fake or do you just wanna be a rebel, nugget?

performer...
shh, they can't know yet

[Carcalilly]

performer, are you town, if you are I'll ride on your pocket and we can power duo this game to win

[Carcalilly]

....is AP an alt or

[Carcalilly]

owie you might be right

also AP, you're saying I only buddy people as scum? By that logic I'm always scum.

[Carcalilly]

I'm like hardly even buddying

People gotta stop voting my townreads

[Carcalilly]

I am so goddamn confused right now

[Carcalilly]

Oh...

And Im not completley sure how the vote needed to be fixed,, maybe I missed the vote button or spelled it wrong idk

[Carcalilly]

Ohhhh that explains why he's voting me

Aight aright I got this

[Carcalilly]

Scum!creature is a foreign concept to me so I'm probably quite biased, I'll take the majority on it.

[Carcalilly]

That is one of the most legitimate replace outs I've seen this week

[Carcalilly]

is it scum theatre because it looks fake or do you just wanna be a rebel, nugget?

performer...
shh, they can't know yet

Yes. It looked fake. I am perplexed as to how you could infer otherwise.

I was being cheeky cuz a majority found it TvT

[Carcalilly]

Shatti what do u think Nos' role is

[Carcalilly]

I think the flubber wagon is the best so far

[Carcalilly]

I kind of have bad vibes on DVa but I really don't know why yet...

[Carcalilly]

Is 3 scum, 1 traitor possible with 19?

Not Known 15 tends to go lighter on power, as you can see here:

List with roles:

1.Archwing Vanilla Townie
2.Chumba Vanilla Townie
3.Lalendra Vanilla Townie
4.Sephiroth Vanilla Townie
5.Luca Blight Vanilla Townie
6.TwoInAMillion Vanilla Townie
7.Prism Vanilla Townie
8.Nero Cain Vanilla Townie
9.Leeoon Mafia Goon
10.BuJaber Mafia Goon
11.mozamis Town Day 5 Innocent Child
12.TheGoldenParadox Town 1-shot Rolecop
13.Roy Tagliaferro Town 2-shot Neapolitan

viewtopic.php?p=9912817#p9912817

If NN15 does basically a mountainous in a 13p game, and there is no promise this isn't a mountainous, then it is theoretically possible our scum count may be lower than expected.

HOWEVER, if Pine had influence on the setup design, then we could be looking at a lot more town power and possibly third parties.

Since we have no knowledge of how or why NN15 designed this setup, or how much collaboration went into it (if any), I would say we cannot guarantee there will be a specific number of scum until we have a clearer sense of the setup as a whole.

ehhhhhhhhh

[Carcalilly]

I would label your consistent question asking as a way to push some stuff off yourself but people just tend to randomly pop up in your ISO posts, like, really unprecedented. Idk?

[Carcalilly]

p e r f o r m e r !

[Carcalilly]

I have 2 many trs xD

[Carcalilly]

I'm not affectionate I just really like some people

[Carcalilly]

masons are a myth

[Carcalilly]

That is in fact what I do

[Carcalilly]

I played 2 games a year ago does that count

[Carcalilly]

Didn't Mulch move there
I miss mulch

[Carcalilly]

xx2008

Carcalilly

Maxous

Garmr

Inferno390

Sephiroth

Nosferatu

FA_Q2

AP

DS aka Shattiel

profii

Flubbernugget

Let's continue crossing

[Carcalilly]

you're worrying me, garmr...

[Carcalilly]

I have no idea if that's all scum indicative for you but yes yes you're simply a worrisome person

[Carcalilly]

you're making me paranoid

can anybody somewhat perceive a garmr/dva association

[Carcalilly]

Maxous is like the town that makes you paranoid

[Carcalilly]

SORRY

[Carcalilly]

Like, IRL we say call a Homicide Detective "Cop", and yet the Traffic Officer we still call them "Cop". It doesn't matter if they're a Lieutenant, a Sergeant, a Captain or even Commissioner. If they are "Police" they are "Cops" or "Coppers".

why tf does this matter anyway?
Even if its an alignment cop as long as it return town then you just have to believe them. If a town fake claim mason and doesn't take it back it's no longer a joke but game throwing.

This is ironic

[Carcalilly]

I don't think seph is incredibly scummy, but I do have to say, skimming his other posts I find he is not very towny either. He's in the middle.

This is fluffy but in a townie way

[Carcalilly]

I'm liking XX for town, his vote on Sephiroth and later unvote seem very natural. He decided to unvote after all his accusations were addressed and while under little pressure, I feel like he is genuinely rethinking his reads. Also, his ISO analysis often brings up new points that haven't been talked about much like Seph's Ohrz vote and it doesn't really feel like he's using them to push an agenda.

ah shit it's it just me or the contrast of xx, because this feels kinda fake

[Carcalilly]

Oh my god it's gamma

[Carcalilly]

imo CT's posts are just getting worse

[Carcalilly]

creature wanna 1v1 so both of us can get off our asses?

[Carcalilly]

For scum
Shattiel > Sephi

Although I don't feel too strongly about either there is definitely a divide.

[Carcalilly]

FL you're a wonderful conftown but I like disagree with most of your assumptions oof

[Carcalilly]

i wanna say if dva is town then flub probably is as well

I'm inclined to agree with this though I think both of them are scum.

[Carcalilly]

What madman has the audacity to call both Garmr and Carcalilly "genuine"?

Am I not genuine?

[Carcalilly]

That small discourse kind of put me at Sephi > Performer for town.
Sorry boo :'/

[Carcalilly]

that sounds more like a policy lynch lets talk about your scumreads.

Why does everybody bring up policy lynching so often? I have NO CONFIDENT SCUM READS. I thus opt to use my gut and I know my gut isn't a good tool (some players have good gut reads, but I'm not one of those), but I have no better alternative.

Guysss AP is probtown, who cares about having solid reads when they're telling the truth about how they perceive the game?

[Carcalilly]

It feels a bit off normally when people scum read me I'm wagoned and there's a big argument but no one's wagoning me. I

let us start
VOTE: garmr

[Carcalilly]

guys hop on my wagon please

[Carcalilly]

119- Relatively hollow and untrue remark

140- Fencey

141- Callback; which I often see as nerve-caused

167- More mellow than I'd expect.

521- A decent amount of painting and a handful of sideremarks(seemly very careful to avoid wrongness or contradiction)

545- Repetition

1151- "SWNST"


Also, are your joke posts and serious posts always so contrastic?

[Carcalilly]

Dolphins?!

[Carcalilly]

*weird fan squeak*

[Carcalilly]

You have to copy and paste the quote format from another tab to a single post

[Carcalilly]

1. I'm pretty sure that's not what he was trying to say. Your response honestly makes no sense to me still.

2. You can say you're undecided with a lot less words than what you used. You turn it one way and another and it almost looked informational, if you were skimming.

3. But we are talking about Mafia....

4. You sure you weren't buddying?

5. I got Garmr grumpy.
Perhaps you were being a little too passionate because some if your assumptions were reachy.

6. Orrr you just ran out of things to say and fluffed it up?

7. Scum would never say that.

[Carcalilly]

This garmr-carca thing is weird.

If I feel the need to truly sort someone I will go my way to pull this kind of crap right out of my ass. I'm getting the exact response I was hoping for.

[Carcalilly]

Besides pissing you off, Garmr, I didn't mean to do that. But it's good to see you passionate about it again.

[Carcalilly]

1.You accusation makes no sense it's fucking dumb.

2.I like using words it helps people understand my thought processes. Not everyone is like stunted like you.

3.If I do it outside of mafia and in mafia games no matter the alignment. Then It's just something I do not hard to put two and two together. Well for a normal person.

4. Buddying someone by telling them they are suspicious and calling them out if I knew it was that simple earlier. I was referring to presenting myself as nicer than normal instead of in your face, I think you don't even think about what your posting and your trying to throw mud with buzz words at this point

5.They aren't reachy! Reachy would be a example of your posting.

6.If i'm debating my points with the person to discuss if they are valid or not giving them a chance to defend themselves then of course I would repeat them. You're just throwing mud here again.


7.Oh ok. Meh I think any alignment would say that if they noticed something off but ok.


VOTE: Carlilly

Your constant shading in the background and rushed case to vote me when I called for it come from scum. As you can't even explain them decently and points change so it's like you didn't think them out.

1. I noticed it was jokey but it was subliminally awkward enough to make me shifty. The phrase "catch scum" I found to be an odd choice considering what you were responding to.

2. What gets me is how you made it/hinted how clear your reasons and opinions were but later dissed it as "mixed opinions". Almost gives me a sense of fear of read commitment.

3. I get how its hard to type your mind but man. You're kind of judging how bad it all is, but why would town be so critical of their posts? The only reason why I'd see anyone be so careful to point out and "accept" the nitches in their posts is if they were scum and didn't want someone else to point it out. If you do this all the time then it's a pretty scummy habit.

4. Scum would only buddy town. Town wants to lynch scum. Isn't kindly calling them out a subtle way to achieve both? Reading through your iso it does sort of stick out like a sore thumb. But you're not wrong with me throwing mud at you, there's a method to this madness.

5. "I'm not __, you're __!"
But really, in my opinion they're reachy. If course it wouldn't seem like that to you but heed to what i've said and do a retake on the more literal sides of things.

6. But you made it look like a case. A recycled case. Perhaps it wasn't you're intention, but how am I supposed to know that?

7. It really needs to be an official acronym.

[Carcalilly]

Besides pissing you off, Garmr, I didn't mean to do that. But it's good to see you passionate about it again.

I'm just going to say this in advance I get really passionate so If I say something hurtful don't take it personally because I won't mean it that way.

Fixed

You did it again

[Carcalilly]

Don't get used to it AP lol

y'all need to stop calling me cute you hecking fricks

[Carcalilly]

Carca - what's your stance on the leading wagons

yours sucks

flubb is nice

[Carcalilly]

This garmr-carca thing is weird.

If I feel the need to truly sort someone I will go my way to pull this kind of crap right out of my ass. I'm getting the exact response I was hoping for.

For a second when I saw this I thought it said “Gamma-Carca thing” and I was gonna say “WHAT thing?”

[Carcalilly]

due to recent events
VOTE: flubbernugget

[Carcalilly]

Dolphins?!

Why is this Carcas towniest post

[Carcalilly]

due to recent events
VOTE: flubbernugget

What recent events?

Clearly, I'm missing something.

Me actually noticing a good wagon/reasons for it and Garmr being not so worrying.

[Carcalilly]

I'm sleeping people's flubb cases.

[Carcalilly]

Jesus you ask a lot of questions

[Carcalilly]

It's 8 in the morning and I have to go to school in 10 mins don't hold it against me

[Carcalilly]

As much as I want to lynch him slow the ffrick down

[Carcalilly]

And performer, the only difference with my cases and regular posting is effort towards organization and being an ass.

[Carcalilly]

gamma no


shortaru is getting more towni

[Carcalilly]

Prodge, not feeling too good today, I'll try to post something meaningful tomorrow

[Carcalilly]

I need more time to try and sort Maxous, FA_Q2 & Flubber.

Early game, he just says he can't sort Flubber

I can sheep ofrhz because I'm too lazy to make my own case but I didn't like flubbers posts to begin with :>

VOTE: flubbernugget

Vote fixed. Please try to vote correctly.

So this means Flubber is Town. Right?

a little chainsaw defence of Flubber here.

My vote isn't doing much on Carca

UNVOTE:

I am firmly against the Seph wagon. I can vote either Flubber or Shattiel, but I dislike Carca on the former and Flubber himself on the latter.

I will wait to see how both wagons build to decide between the two.

I won't be voting Seph under any circumstances though.

Considering Flubber did flip scum, that bolded looks real bad.
Didn't want to jump on Flubber if he didn't need to but didn't want to be caught on the counter-wagon.

VOTE: Flubbernugget
I remember getting scumpings from this, and I don’t wanna vanity vote rn

Permission to sheep (and I will already assume permission granted)

VOTE: Flubber

this is the vote, for no reason.

I'll sheep this, it's good
VOTE: AP

[Carcalilly]

Not caught up but intend to get caught up when I can
I know I am townreading xx200Late, I distrust Sephiroth for being so buddy-buddy with Flubber, but beyond that I’m not too sure

Gamma might be town...

[Carcalilly]

VOTE: Maxous


Feels right

You're worrying me slightly but I see where you're coming from.

AP makes me more paranoid, he seems like a much better player than what you can see for now.

[Carcalilly]

VOTE: Profii
I was going to wait for a reaction but I changed my mind and feel it would be better to apply pressure. Espically after

This I don't like as it's trying to explain creatures actions despite him saying earlier it's better to ask why.

I dont get this.

Profii made worthwhile accusations that people should be thinking about as the game progresses.

Flubber was passively defensive of profii as well but never really gives profii a town read or mention after I put profii in the lime light. It seems like a topic he wanted to avoid.

Since you're my goto town I may make you a double voter day 3 if this wagon doesn't go through today.

[Carcalilly]

What we do Leaf

[Carcalilly]

Snip
Carca where are you.

I'm here!! You're so town

[Carcalilly]

Note to self: if scum had a rolecop, strongman, and informed, that would actually make a ton of sense considering the flipped rolestopper with an IC.

Seriously, I don't care anymore. I don't care about the game outcome, and I don't care about how I look to you (or anyone else). I just want to understand how this brain of yours work, so please help me with this one:

What does a ROLECOP have to do with a NIGHT ONE kill target? Do you think scum also had a N0 investigation?? (Hint: that'd be explicitly non-Normal). If not, then what the hell does the Role Cop have to do with anything? And why does Strongman mean they kill someone else other than the IC? And how the hell did they know whom to shoot exactly? Unless you think Informed = has access to the modding PT!!!!

So, please take me by the hand through this statement bit by bit, because now I feel overly stupid. Thanks.

[Carcalilly]

Prodge, not feeling too good today, I'll try to post something meaningful tomorrow

get well soon

<3

[Carcalilly]

Fuck

Im gonna be really busy this week with work and I'm not sure if I should replace out or not