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[Amrun]

Ego - busy

[Amrun]

I’m sorry for my inactivity here. I have a big test on Saturday and I’m fully in a big autoimmune flairup and throwing up everything I eat and all sorts of horrible shit that comes along with it. I haven’t had the energy for mafia. I have like 3 hrs sleep as well. Catchup ASAP but even though I think 32 pages is reasonable for a game this size, I still want to stab my eyes out at the thought of reading it.

[Amrun]

Can someone summarize why the TSE wagon is a thing?

I haven’t read a goddamn thing. I intend to but if I don’t start playing from here, I’ll fall more and more behind. Ugh.

[Amrun]

TSE was originally a random vote but his response was crappy so he's the designated day 1 lynch. Hope that helps the case, Amrun.

Is there any real indication this crappy response is AI?

[Amrun]

It’s probably as good a flip as any but my spidery senses don’t give me good vibes.

Nero’s description sounded like “why TSE deserves to be voted” vs “why TSE is scum.”

If TSE is town, I’m turning sights on Nero.

[Amrun]

That being said, a day 1 lynch in a game this big is going to be nearly impossible to achieve.

So like... choo choo.

VOTE: TSE

[Amrun]

Nero’s description sounded like “why TSE deserves to be voted” vs “why TSE is scum.”

If TSE is town, I’m turning sights on Nero.

you asked me why his wagon was a thing. Its certianly going to be from myPOV. This post is weird.

I also asked why his behavior was alignment indicative directly preceding your post. You gave me like the antithesis of that.

It is definitely something scum do, push for lunches on bad/illogical town plays because they are bad rather than scum motivated.


Why such a strong reaction though? Worried TSE will flip town?

[Amrun]

i've voting profii. join me :/

Interesting. Why? Do you think TSE is town?

[Amrun]

Why am I eve wasting my time by responding to scum?

i've voting profii. join me :/

Interesting. Why? Do you think TSE is town?

there are 13 scum in this game, even if TSE is scum he's not the only 1. Why must I be confined to voting only TSE?

Why aren’t you being realistic about how you will get a wagon through?

amrun doesn't even think TSE is scum, that's like the definition of a go with the flow scum vote.

I literally haven’t read a single TSE post yet, and openly so. You kidding bro?

Have you given any thought at all people’s motivations?

[Amrun]

PK confscum. Hmmm

Commune with me, gobbles.

[Amrun]

Why aren’t you being realistic about how you will get a wagon through?

that's not remotely close to what I was saying. More pressure pointed sounding questions that don't match the conversation.

Have you given any thought at all people’s motivations?

I HAVE! if you are scum then going for the wagon with the least resistance makes plenty of sense.

How, after playing in chkflip’s game, are you this obtuse about the fact that if we do not no lynch today, it will be an absolute miracle?

We will not have dueling wagons.

We will have 5 piddly wagons that amount to nothing.

Vanity wagoning has the potential to ruin this game.

[Amrun]

As a reminder, we only achieved lynched in chkflip’s game because of TSE’s role ability which was designed for that exact purpose, to reduce the number of people needed to lynch.

Because getting 26/50 people to agree on anything is almost impossible.

[Amrun]

There is also no way that you actually scumread me based on posts I made explicitly without having read anything because I’m not not going with the “conversation.”

Of course I’m not. I haven’t read it.

P-edit: not even saying I scumread you. I don’t think this is outside of your town range. But it’s an asinine, elementary level read and you’re capable of better, if town. Think about it.

You really think that’s the scum play? Come in, openly not read anything, then vote TSE without ever reading any of his posts?

As opposed to fabricating a reason to be on his wagon. It is obviously pretty easy to do.

[Amrun]

at what point are you going to sit down and read it them?

Have YOU read? I said I would read it as soon as I can, but I’m having a problem with a flare up of my autoimmune disorder making me feel like garbage, like my skin is literally covered in hives and scratch marks and I’m vomiting every meal during the meal, I can’t sleep, my bones feel like they’re coming apart at the seams. I have a huge exam for entrance to a program on Saturday.

it’s still early day 1 and I’m not going to find the time to sit down and read 40 pages until after my test, especially when I feel so poorly. But if I wait until then, it’ll be 150 pages and I’ll replace out. So I’m just going to play from here for now and read it when I have time.

I literally said all that in less explicit detail in the post you were supposedly responding to about TSE, so don’t act surprised.

[Amrun]

How, after playing in chkflip’s game, are you this obtuse about the fact that if we do not no lynch today, it will be an absolute miracle?

We will not have dueling wagons.

We will have 5 piddly wagons that amount to nothing.

Vanity wagoning has the potential to ruin this game.

Don't we still have a week and a half till deadline? Why are you stressing out of getting a lynch with so much time left?

Also, I'm here and active so why is it a big deal that im doing other things with my vote a big deal?


I’m not accusing you of vanity wagoning. I’m saying you’re not thinking through your scumread of me at all. If town does not “go with the flow” we will absolutely, 100% no lynch today. No questions. Scumreading someone for this reason is absolutely bonkers.

So I’m asking myself why are you giving such a shallow, poorly constructed read of me?

A) it’s a knee jerk reaction, you’ll think it through and come off it

B) you’re scum


I don’t have enough context of the game to decide between a or b right now, but I’m trying to open up the opportunity for A if you are in fact town.
there are shit tons of vanity wagons and useless votes. I made a post a lil' while ago about wanting ppl to consolidate on BR, profil or TSE.

[Amrun]

I fucked up that quote.

[Amrun]

it almost sounds like Amrun wants us to stay on the TSE wagon so a lynch doesn't swing elsewhere.

Given my choice, I’d currently lynch you over TSE. But realistically, TSE probably shouldn’t go to endgame and it’s a great place to votepark while I find my bearings. I have absolutely no problem with that.

[Amrun]

not even saying I scumread you.

I’d currently lynch you over TSE

Well, that escalated quickly.

I mean look, you feel bad and it sucks. I know. But coming in here and going "oh hey I don't scum read TSE but ima vote him anways" isn't exactly pro-town. Or did you think folks should be town reading you for it?

Why exactly was it important to vote park TSE?

Any read I have right now is far too premature to call a scumread. I wouldn’t consider myself to be scumreading either of you, but I’m more interested in your alignment than his.

Your other question is just ????

Because I want to achieve a lynch and you are severely underplaying how extremely difficult that will be to do.

[Amrun]

Kirari, is Drixx's real time posting slightly out of his scum range?

Not really, he's definitely posting more independently than he did in AvT but I haven't seen him separate from Cerb that often. Do you think he is outside his scumrange? What games are you thinking of?

There are some old scum games of his from like 2017 that suggest his scum style is to take the time to come up with a lot of fake analysis but to not post very often. His posts in AvT seem to fall into that general profile too. I wouldn't say completely outside his scumrange, but I think he's more town than not.

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Amrun, what are your thoughts on Kirari and Drixx?

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TSE, why are you voting Elsa and sheeping your scumread (Nero)?

Is Kirari Krazy? Seems like Krazy.

I think it’s an empty argument. They’re both arguing about some dumb shit. Drixx is acting like it’s impossible to have a gut read, and Kirari kind of fluffing up gut reads.

I don’t know Drixx very well, but from my experience, he is very logical and probably does not do gut reads very often. Still, he should recognize that others do.

Kirari, if Krazy, is closer to town meta if so but not definitive based on what I’ve read so far.

[Amrun]

So in other words, gun to my head I’d say TvT.

It could be TvS or different scum vs different scum but I don’t think they’re scum together.

[Amrun]

Hectic is town.


If we can actually reverse this wagon on Titus, I’d prefer to because I agree BG is self resolving.

[Amrun]

@Amrun, Thoughts on Black Ranger and tictac?

I hope that this game goes exactly like Wake's Rolemadness did day 1 (minus the gunsmith). Got wagoned D1, got like 6 straight guilties.

I haven’t read any of their posts yet. I basically started playing on like page 40. >.> sorry

[Amrun]

@Amrun, what about KM?

I would wagon this to see what shakes out.

[Amrun]

Amrun not noticing me scum reading her 3 times now must mean she’s scared

You should be

No it’s just boring. You couldn’t have a proper scumread on me at this point even if I was scum. If you’re town, you’ll figure it out as I engage. If you’re scum, you’ll keep pushing low hanging fruit. I don’t know yet which it is.

[Amrun]

Ok I did a few quick ISO and mama likey.

VOTE: tictac

[Amrun]

Amrun not noticing me scum reading her 3 times now must mean she’s scared

You should be

No it’s just boring. You couldn’t have a proper scumread on me at this point even if I was scum. If you’re town, you’ll figure it out as I engage. If you’re scum, you’ll keep pushing low hanging fruit. I don’t know yet which it is.

You're essentially saying I currently have reasoning to scum read you, so did you just look to shade me?

I cannot parse this sentence.

I’m saying you do NOT have reason to scumread me, but it is always very easy to fake scumreads on those with low presence.

I do not know if you’re doing that, given I haven’t read your previous posting, which could be ace for all I know.

[Amrun]

Titus is a shorter name than TSE's so is easier to vote.

eyy. coolio.
VOTE: Titus

to be clear: loud-foo not gonna exist in 50p game cause it's annoying to mod and mechanically too uninteresting to bother.
Also, it's easy as pie to claim roleblocked tomorrow, so why

not

claim it as scum.

Chemist read is also a read and not sarcasm (@dave, tho u used the word 'sarcasm' correctly! so concrats.)
Also never claimed i was trying to 'figure him out', so nyah at insomnia.

@gobbles

Mostly a generally lackluster ISO and this gem above.

Because a BG is a great fakeclaim as scum who can totally make it to endgame claiming to be RB every day.


But basically it’s a wagon that isn’t terrible vs TSE wagon which is terrible now that it’s Titus.

[Amrun]

But basically it’s a wagon that isn’t terrible vs TSE wagon which is terrible now that it’s Titus.

You didn't think the wagon was town because of the claim?

I’m sorry, can you restate?

[Amrun]

But basically it’s a wagon that isn’t terrible vs TSE wagon which is terrible now that it’s Titus.

You didn't think the wagon was town because of the claim?

I’m sorry, can you restate?

I think I understand now.

Not necessarily until I read how the wagon built up, but it’s TSE so I’m sure he attracted a lot of town votes too.

But Titus is in that slot now so it’s a different situation.

P-edit: I don’t think TSE’s claim necessarily made him town, nor Titus. I simply think it’s self resolving. I put down on top wagon while I got my feet and because it’s TSE, he wasn’t making it to endgame regardless so...

But now that Titus is in the slot, I’d still flip it if we can’t get anything else through, but would rather lynch almost anywhere else.

[Amrun]

@Rhinox: True, good point.

My point was I was ignoring insomnia because his read is bad and uninteresting and I’m not sure what type of response he was expecting anyway.

[Amrun]

He’s saying that you are killing the momentum on the popular/leading wagon. And considering this is a 50 player game that’s not being very helpful.

but I didn't like the tic tac wagon and I was willing to give Titus a chance. I wouldn't even consider the BR wagon to be a "major" wagon. It got what? A max of 5 votes?

And maybe I was killing momentum, who know who'd complain about that? Scum.

What? Why would scum complain about killing the momentum?

[Amrun]

if they are happy and comfortable in the current game state they don't want it t change. I don't think that's something a town 2011 join date asks.

This is so asinine.

Killing town’s momentum and motivation here would be the expressed and obvious goal of any scum in this game size and set up. Like what the actual fuck.

[Amrun]

u do not think that if the scum is happy with a current gamestate they'd like it to stay the same?

I mean, in a broad, general sense, yes.

In this case, in a 50p multiball game as it applies to town actually focusing and having their shit together, there is no font in the world big enough:

NO

[Amrun]

So vote BR.

[Amrun]

i'm tired of her antics, regardless of alignment but I could see her as scum.

and upon reflection

Gut instinct, at least one of Black Ranger/tic tac is scum but they are not on the same team.

Black Ranger (5): The Fonz, Almost50, NorwegianboyEE, AaronFrost, Elsa Jay
tictac (4): insomnia, Rhinox, Black Ranger, Not Known 15

she comes in and her top two scum reads just happen to be the top two wagons that aren't her.

This is such backwards thinking.

She said that BECAUSE they were the top two wagons not her. It wasn’t a coincidence. She’s saying because her wagon picked up instead of theirs, that one of them is likely scum.

[Amrun]

Man that Amrun post requires some mental contortion if you don’t know anyone’s alignment

VOTE: Amrun

Actually, it only requires basic reading comprehension and know that Titus hadn’t read the game at that point, which she is not only well known for, but explicitly said.

[Amrun]

"If I'm replacing in as town and am the leading wagon then I might be the counterwagon to scum" isn't as wild a thought as you make it seem, although it does happen to mirror wolfy survivalism so I don't really know why amrun is choosing one interpretation over the other unless she strongly feels titus is town for other reasons

This is multiball. I do kinda think Titus is town but that was irrelevant to the comment. It’s multiball.

[Amrun]

"If I'm replacing in as town and am the leading wagon then I might be the counterwagon to scum" isn't as wild a thought as you make it seem, although it does happen to mirror wolfy survivalism so I don't really know why amrun is choosing one interpretation over the other unless she strongly feels titus is town for other reasons

Bingo. Why is she that confident in Titus town?

And it’s not a wild thought. It’s an insane thought.

In a game where town are uninformed, interpretations like Nero’s are the more townier ones. Town have to scum hunt. Amrun’s interpretation there is ridiculous if it comes from an uninformed PoV. Even if she town read her, I doubt she’d go such great lengths of thoughts to explain why that action comes from town!Titus.

She justified it as a counter to Nero’s accusation, it wasn’t even something picked up on the go. You need to have a high confidence read on someone in order to twist your mind like that, fall into wifom assumptions and come up even half as confident as Amrun looked stating that now.

It’s mind boggling.

Nero’s interpretation is just bad. Why would anyone EVER assume that Titus expects us to think she randomly scumread the top wagons?

That’s just like.... bonkers.

I don’t even think the comment makes Nero scum, just hilariously wrong. I was enlightening him so that he can course correct if he is town and think about it more logically.

The comment wasn’t about Titus’ alignment. But everyone should be speaking from a town perspective, so from Titus’ POV, she would be talking about herself as town so that’s the perspective her comment would come from, true or not.

[Amrun]

"If I'm replacing in as town and am the leading wagon then I might be the counterwagon to scum" isn't as wild a thought as you make it seem, although it does happen to mirror wolfy survivalism so I don't really know why amrun is choosing one interpretation over the other unless she strongly feels titus is town for other reasons

Bingo. Why is she that confident in Titus town?

And it’s not a wild thought. It’s an insane thought.

In a game where town are uninformed, interpretations like Nero’s are the more townier ones. Town have to scum hunt. Amrun’s interpretation there is ridiculous if it comes from an uninformed PoV. Even if she town read her, I doubt she’d go such great lengths of thoughts to explain why that action comes from town!Titus.

She justified it as a counter to Nero’s accusation, it wasn’t even something picked up on the go. You need to have a high confidence read on someone in order to twist your mind like that, fall into wifom assumptions and come up even half as confident as Amrun looked stating that now.

It’s mind boggling.

I dont think its mind boggling for amrun to empathise with Titus position in the game and thus for amrun to think about how titus is seeing the world

Bearing in mind Titus position is "I know I'm town so why are these wagons forming around me"

I dont see amrun as saying "im confident Titus is town and agreeing with her"

I do see amrun as saying "Titus is asserting she is town and making the following conclusions...."

Thank you, dear baby Jesus. I honestly did not think this would be difficult.


FTR, at the point I’m at I’m vibing with AF scumread.

[Amrun]

explicitly said.

yes she hadn't read the game

why does that mean she had to scumread the top 2 not her wagons? What was the logic there?

Because it is pretty normal to think at least one of the counterwagons is scum that if there are two counterwagons to a claimed BG, which is an objectively suboptimal lynch, and the BG is winning by a long shot. Especially from someone who has just gotten, or is pretending to have gotten, a town role PM on that slot and has not yet read the game.

[Amrun]

even if Titus was town I don't understand the logic for why she thinks the two biggest not her wagons contain scum.

The idea is that scum wagons don’t take off as easily because their scummates are subtly discouraging them.


Because this slot was TSE, who was being distracting, I’m not sure that holds true here in reality, but that’s obviously what Titus meant by that comment.

[Amrun]

How did she get such a clear insight into titus’ head just from her saying 2 scum reads?

Nero’s point makes a lot more reasonable an assumption to make than what amrun’s saying. How did she conclude that unless she went from the premise of Titus town?

In hindsight this can actually spew titus town if amrun is scum, or at least they’re not on the same team for sure for sure

I'm treating it as NAI for now, but watching for buddying now that you've flagged it

I'm very predictable in terms of looking at day 1 to solve alignments. It's something that most anyone could predict that I'd look at the most recent VC and say something.

The only reason I laid off as much in TvA is that I was expecting vote fuckery that never really csme.

God no Titus why you too?

Yes, I was drawing off of my knowledge of your play, but I wasn’t calling you town. I thought you were though, separately, but I really dislike this post.

I still don’t really care since your claim is self resolving.

[Amrun]

normal to think at least one of the counterwagons is scum

it is?

If presumably town Titus is getting wagoned why would scum EVER counter wagon that especially with my big ass leading the charge?

That’s the point. The counterwagons were paltry and ineffective at that time. I’m not saying they were scum driven wagons. The opposite, actually, at least in this hypothetical proposed scenario.

[Amrun]

Yeah, it makes sense if you've not read. Problem is it makes no sense to assume that if you have read and know the claimed BG was wagoned way before either of those wagons rose up and neither have ever gotten close.

Right, but we know that Titus has NOT.

(I haven’t read that portion of the game either, but that’s irrelevant.)

[Amrun]

She’s saying because her wagon picked up instead of theirs, that one of them is likely scum.

how would she know that if she hadn't read? Also untrue. TSE was the original wagon. It's not like the BR wagons and tic tac wagons were there and her wagon overtook them. If her thats he logic doesn't that make her scum now since the tic tac wagon has now overtaken her?

You’re saying this because you read the game. She was looking at the last vote count only. That’s the part you’re missing.

[Amrun]

Yeah, it makes sense if you've not read. Problem is it makes no sense to assume that if you have read and know the claimed BG was wagoned way before either of those wagons rose up and neither have ever gotten close.

Right, but we know that Titus has NOT.

(I haven’t read that portion of the game either, but that’s irrelevant.)

it's relevant in the sense someone has to mention it at some point to let Titus know her reads are based on untrue assumptions.

Good point.

[Amrun]

neither you or AF are town.

Also, why have you not responded to the allegation that your dual scum reads on the top two not you wagons are scummy?

Are you just content to let Amrun defend you? How do you feel about her defending you?

Literally wasn’t defending her.

I don’t care about Titus’ alignment at all because it’s self resolving. Yours, though, I’m very interested in so I wanted to see if your reads were really that shallow or if you were interesting in deepening your understanding of the players you are ostensibly scumreading.

[Amrun]

And for the record it seems like re-evaluating is difficult for you but that you are sorta trying. So that’s good I think.

[Amrun]

normal to think at least one of the counterwagons is scum

it is? ?

Yes, and it is SPECIFICALLY normal for Titus. In the just finished Boon game she spent most of her time arguing that because there were three wagons day one, the one that took off was town, therefore one of the others had to be scum.

that's still...silly logic I think. As it's not totally impossible that all 3 wagons would be on town. In this other game, were any of thee wagons on scum?

Actually one of them was scum. But it doesn’t matter what YOU think of the theory. The point is it’s a very consistently expressed theory of Titus’.

[Amrun]

ok fine but I wasn't in that game.

Didn’t say you were. But doesn’t that change your perspective on that comment of Titus’?

[Amrun]

Rex lynch is fine, probably better than tic tac.

VOTE: rex

[Amrun]

VOTE: SausasaurusRex

[Amrun]

"If I'm replacing in as town and am the leading wagon then I might be the counterwagon to scum" isn't as wild a thought as you make it seem, although it does happen to mirror wolfy survivalism so I don't really know why amrun is choosing one interpretation over the other unless she strongly feels titus is town for other reasons

Bingo. Why is she that confident in Titus town?

And it’s not a wild thought. It’s an insane thought.

In a game where town are uninformed, interpretations like Nero’s are the more townier ones. Town have to scum hunt. Amrun’s interpretation there is ridiculous if it comes from an uninformed PoV. Even if she town read her, I doubt she’d go such great lengths of thoughts to explain why that action comes from town!Titus.

She justified it as a counter to Nero’s accusation, it wasn’t even something picked up on the go. You need to have a high confidence read on someone in order to twist your mind like that, fall into wifom assumptions and come up even half as confident as Amrun looked stating that now.

It’s mind boggling.

Nero’s interpretation is just bad. Why would anyone EVER assume that Titus expects us to think she randomly scumread the top wagons?

That’s just like.... bonkers.

I don’t even think the comment makes Nero scum, just hilariously wrong. I was enlightening him so that he can course correct if he is town and think about it more logically.

The comment wasn’t about Titus’ alignment. But everyone should be speaking from a town perspective, so from Titus’ POV, she would be talking about herself as town so that’s the perspective her comment would come from, true or not.

Except titus didn't articulate that thought, so why'd you think that was her actual thought?

I didn't say Nero's interpretation was good, I said it was townie. Because that's how towns react.

How you reacted is not townie amrun.

I'm coming for you Amrun, nk me or tomorrow I will leash the hellhounds onto you, trust me. You and your little scum team whichever it is. Maybe tictac's also with you.

She literally did articulate that thought. That’s my point. Just because you didn’t understand it doesn’t mean she didn’t articulate it. Idk why towns react by reading incorrectly, or why that’s your argument. But I do like. Ero’s extended reaction as we talked it through so I feel better about him.

Talking with you has been really boring this game because you’re not using your brain.

[Amrun]

VOTE: dolly parton

[Amrun]

Worth being said that tracker could easily also be scum so like. -shrug-

[Amrun]

He's right though. He still probably eats a scum nightkill even if he is scum.

I changed votes for a reason but like. I felt like it needed to be said.

[Amrun]

VOTE: bad ranger

This Drixx is very different from TvA.

[Amrun]

Lol

VOTE: black ranger

[Amrun]

I played with Faraday and Fate but can’t remember the tells.

[Amrun]

Townchub™

I dig it.


Catchup ASAP as I am trying to keep a toddler busy at home and catch naps due to being exhausted from working in healthcare right now zzz.

I am not reading all this shit, not gonna lie, but I’m cool with the current wagon and I’ll try to get current-ish this evening.

[Amrun]

Why is black ranger falling apart? Someone summarize for me.

[Amrun]

VOTE: sausasaursrex

I will follow CSF to the ends of the earth!

[Amrun]

VOTE: sausasaursrex

I will follow CSF to the ends of the earth!

y

Bc I’m a healthcare worker during a pandemic and can’t read right now. CSF struck me as towny so far and that’s all I got right now.

[Amrun]

Am I still on the leading wagon?

If you were Amrun would have voted you

Damn

Fucking

Right


(Actually I didn’t look at the VC but still valid)

[Amrun]

Also FWIW the saus post so far are scummy and profii’s aren’t (the ones I’ve read lelelel)

[Amrun]

profii’s aren’t

I wouldnt blame anyone for scum reading me. I literally dont care about this day and I just want to see what happens mechanically overnight.
I dont even care if i get lynched haha.

Saaaame

Let’s thin the herd here, people.

[Amrun]

I don't really care about BR vig claim because I think his scum.

Just let him vig someone! Even me! I don’t care! For the love of God!

[Amrun]

I don't really care about BR vig claim because I think his scum.

Just let him vig someone! Even me! I don’t care! For the love of God!

If he’s scum there’s only so many times he can fake lolblocked so just deal.

[Amrun]

My vig CC was p clear here guys.

ALL VIG CLAIMS GET A D1 PASS FROM ME

[Amrun]

VOTE: No Lynch

This is bad and you should feel bad.

[Amrun]

I will flip anything! Y’all never listen to me.

[Amrun]

VOTE: tictac

[Amrun]

Yeah this is going to end in a no lynch.

Exactly what I said early in the day, that if town didn’t focus and consolidate we would not achieve any lynch.

[Amrun]

he's town because he started playing the game ONLY when he's at L-2, you should feel bad.

because town doesnt do this? because we cant lynch him later? because he didnt expose himself to the various manners of nightkills?

Town literally does not care in a game with 50p, especially when they claim their role is useless. See the difference?

he's serial killer i bet my money on it. or scum. he's not town.

if he's scum with a sick PR he only needs at least one night to make it count. solving when he's at L-2 helps him to achieve that. because of people going "oh there's no way he would've actually played the game at L-2 owo" and letting him off the hook

now he's in scum pt planning who dies and he doesn't care who gets lynched.

If he’s SK I still don’t want to kill him so idc really.

Even if he’s scum, let his team make kills better for town to try and be his cover, idgaf.



Blood

For

The

Blood

God

[Amrun]

I don’t care anymore just kill anyone.

I assumed everyone except BR and maybe I guess tic toc now was just fucking around.

Maybe it’s a big themed game. In which case, scum could have one. So just lynch tic toc or we will no lynch.

[Amrun]

Did someone say hammer? I thought this day would never end

VOTE: tictac

I knew you were my hero.

[Amrun]

VOTE: black ranger

[Amrun]

No way is there three missing kills.

[Amrun]

Blood for the blood god.

More night, more death.

[Amrun]

Don’t check me bro

[Amrun]

Gamma baby

Welcome back

You picked a shit show though

[Amrun]

Subject: Mainstream Mafia II: D&D Edition [FIN]

Everyone over 100 posts should die a slow painful death

Ironic, isn’t it?

UNVOTE:

Btw if you expect me to read all of this without serious prompting you’re sorely mistaken, as a forewarning. I’ll probably read suggested portions but I don’t want to kill my will to play because I feel like I have to maintain some sort of valor.

Don’t read anything. Just vote black ranger. He scum slipped and we can go to night and get more info.

[Amrun]

Never you, A50!!!


Gamma, I’m not in his hood but he posted something in there that pretty clearly was meant for a scum PT in it according to its members. It’s pretty damning. Plus he’s claiming to be a vig and it’s very questionable. He’s almost definitely scum, and if he’s not, we will get scum out of the lynch so it’s win win.

[Amrun]

@gamma: read recent Drixx posts for the skinny on BR

[Amrun]

I think that two neighborhoods were given out, two maf were killed, no town was killed and NO leads and everyone is still bandwagoning blackranger (?)

I'm not scum btw plus NorwegianboyEE claimed VIGI. Maf is pushing town to commit a mistake to lynch when a vigi already died because of a random. Overall town is winning plus no SK but probably an arsonist

Whoever has a PR to check anyone is clean or whatever just claim it now on D2 don't wait for D3 we have too many vigis and we need to keep the momentum going, who is clean

Titus and Aaron Frost seem clear because they lynched the two dead maf? Plus one dead maf was on the top of the list as townie compiled by Dolly. Someone needs to recap clearly because alot to read and the bandwagoning is super artificial.
@Elsa jay why did you ask for protection

This series of posts is a tragedy and needs a bullet. Kthx

[Amrun]

Please kill the slots needing replacement ;_;

can we just let the vigs kill as they see fit?

and get that hammer?

FTR I meant “bullet” genetically as in death/rope/whatever!

[Amrun]

God Nero, stop trying to derail the fucking thread. We have a scum slip lynch in sight. Revel in it. I already know you’re going to try and lynch me later. Fine. Save it.

[Amrun]

Modkill

Garmr,

Ascetic Bulletproof Serial Killer

, has been modkilled and turned

Neutral Survivor

. Do not discuss this action until postgame.

Hahahahaha what a fucking shit show.

[Amrun]

VOTE: ar98mubarik

[Amrun]

Why’s it gotta be the SK though.

How did we literally lynch two vig and mod kill an SK and have a ton of missing kills. I couldn’t regret joining this game more. Mercy kill me, scum, please.

[Amrun]

Should also lynch where we can find associatives but hey wtf do I know

Chk, talk to me. What associatives do you see?

[Amrun]

Should also lynch where we can find associatives but hey wtf do I know

Except those slot will NEVER generate associatives outside of a wagon
Pray tell why you (and Pine) are hell bent on avoiding this?
VOTE: ar98mubarik

Gamma

My savior

[Amrun]

I enjoy it when people try to randomly create associatives where there aren't any. WhY wOnT yOu LyNcH -- because your target is stupid, that's why. I don't give a shit about lurksacks. If they're scum, great, that's one less derp a doo to deal with until we have to shoot in the dark. If they're down, not great, because we wasted a mislynch where we didn't have to.

I thought you said we should be lynching from associatives.

Once again, I ask, what associatives do you see?

[Amrun]

A vote for 98 is a vote for day 4.

Letsa go.

[Amrun]

Ok I want to actually give some context because I have read the last several game days in great detail, I just fucking hate them and everything that has to do with this fucking game.

Drixx - kinda baffling play re: claiming, but town

Gobbles - town ish by play

Chk - scummy bc his stances are conflicting - if we should be lynching off of associatives why is he not presenting associatives and actually making generalized attacks on “people” for “making up associatives” even though that’s what we should be lynching off of, according to him?

Elsa - town but has fooled me before but following with thought processes

Dave - town ish by play

Sausasaurusrex- super scummy by play and probably my top pick to actually flip scum, only spared by claim, but hasn’t produced results??? Or something??? I hate this game.

Nero - probably town but I wish I had an eye roll emoji


I have other thoughts but that’s what sticks out to me right now. Someone shared thoughts about drixx that I thought was really town but I forgot who. Might have been Titus.

[Amrun]

gobble tell me what to think about Drixx

To be honest, something stinks in that hood. However, I think that Drixx is probably town despite everything. I do not think scum continues to draw attention to themselves as having a useful power role after they lost 1 member on the first night.

Drixx isn't blue scum because of the friction between him and KM.

Drixx isn't red scum because of the attention to himself and Drixx could have lied about me visiting him thus securing a likely mislynch. Doubly so with Nero in the game.

Pedit: Nero, I am not appealing to you. You decided pregame, like you always do, that you were going to tunnel me. Several slots knew this. Davesaz noticed it. Pisskop called it stupid. Drixx commented too. Your response is to call them scum, at least Drixx. If you can't honestly play the game, don't play. For now, I'll work around you but that type of attitude is no fun for anyone involved.

It was titus.

Also, piss seems very agenda-less so leaning town for now. It means less in a game like this but still.

[Amrun]

Town AtE all the time, Nero.

[Amrun]

Town AtE all the time, Nero.

ok but that still doesn't make Titus town.

Sure it doesn’t, but it sure as shit doesn’t make her scum either.

[Amrun]

Like I totally think your point about her saying you’re tunneling her is valid, Nero. I just don’t think you’re doing a good job of selling me on why that makes her scum, especially in multiball. Both scum and town make mistakes and/or have their own unique perspectives on things. Nothing you’ve said so far is anything but null to me.

[Amrun]

If anyone cares to know, Rex claims to have tracked me last night. So use that however you will.

Did he say why he picked you to track????

Wanted to know why my role was important enough to want to be protected, appearantly. Basically Almost and Bob said it best. Digging for info on me.

God, what is this garbage.

VOTE: sausausaurusrex


@Nero: if people who were merely existing on mislynch wagons by coincidence is a reason “not to talk to you,” then just stop posting. It’s a 50p multiball game, bud. Wagons needed 26 to go through. You’re saying some crazy shit right now. Try on a little deductive reasoning. Just like see how it feels.

[Amrun]

Chk - scummy bc his stances are conflicting - if we should be lynching off of associatives why is he not presenting associatives and actually making generalized attacks on “people” for “making up associatives” even though that’s what we should be lynching off of, according to him?

You don't get the same kind of associatives from a blank-slate slot lynch. These wild hair associations because "so and so wasn't on the a98 lynch" is fucking worthless compared to "so and so wasn't on the Titus lynch." You objectively know the difference, and acting like there isn't one is incredibly fucking silly. Titus has reads. A98 obviously doesn't. There's a difference.

I do know the difference between those two, but I asked you questions for clarification point blank several times and unless I missed it, this is the first time I’m getting it.


ALSO


BG IS SELF RESOLVING

STOP GIVING ME NOISE ABOUT TITUS

I DO NOT FUCKING CARE


IF SHE IS STILL ALIVE ON DAY 2,753 WE CAN TALK

[Amrun]

In any event of a98's flip, no matter what it is, you can completely baselessly say I'm scum for not wanting to be on it. They're town? Oh chk was white-knighting, he's scum. Either scum team? Ope, chk is a partner. Because I don't want to waste my time on a little-to-no information lynch. It's dumb.

Obviously having like 5 slots not posting and not replaced and moving the game forward sucks and damages the game in this way and many ways. We still have to play, or abandon. So... we have our choices. I’d rather just lynch at least a few of the slots, maybe replace a few, and proceed.

[Amrun]

Hey, remember that game we were just in where scum claimed several "self resolving" roles? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Yes, I do. And those were predictable, it was not a 50p game, and when that role in question did not die, it was rightfully lynched. Just as we should lynch Titus if she remains alive a little further into the game.

I DO NOT FUCKING CARE

for someone that doesn't care it sure seems like you are offering up alot of resistance to her wagon.

Y is she town again?

You’re missing my point.

I don’t know if Titus is town. I don’t CARE if Titus is town. If Titus is town, she will die soon. If she’s not, she will linger suspiciously into the game and we will lynch her anyway. So wasting head space, and thread space, on it is extremely annoying and a waste of everyone’s lives. It’s just a way to clog up the thread. Don’t do it.

[Amrun]

If I had to pick, I’d say Titus was town, but I really haven’t tried to sort her because I don’t care because it’s pointless for previously stated reasons.


Why would I not be voting a tracker in a multiball game who tracked someone for a super antitown reason? Like have you never been a scum tracker even with one scum team? Rex is a good wagon.

[Amrun]

Why would I not be voting a tracker in a multiball game who tracked someone for a super antitown reason? Like have you never been a scum tracker even with one scum team? Rex is a good wagon.

just seems a little hypocritical is all. I don't see much of a difference in me, pink and a few others wanting to lynch a scummy BG claim and you wanting to lynch a scummy tracker.

You can’t possibly be this dense. A BODYGUARD DIES

IT SUICIDES

Those roles are VASTLY different. Wlrochaldhxbaksm

Yes, I do. And those were predictable, it was not a 50p game, and when that role in question did not die, it was rightfully lynched. Just as we should lynch Titus if she remains alive a little further into the game.

If Nero and I are both alive and I am not cleared by day 5 and we get some actual fucking replacements, I'll jump on a pile myself. This game isn't possible or fun. I'm just doing it because town needs a bg with no vigs right now. If I was a citizen, I would be leaving out.

Hear hear.