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[NorwegianboyEE]

@titus: Because the mod was experiencing irl issues. I thought it was possible that he just made a mistake and forgot to tell MM that he was visited
So I asked him.

Wuuut.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok idk what this entails yet, but at least i want to understand it before i get onboard with the lynch.
UNVOTE:

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why is that town?
Especially the L-1 notification.
You think scum wouldn’t do that?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Jackson. Can you talk normal.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And now, listen guys. I'm very much confirmable as vigilante since I can shoot tonight. Let me confirm myself?

Fine. If you were lying then real vig would shoot you anyway.
VOTE: Glitch

[NorwegianboyEE]

DDL is beetlejuicing. Ew.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think dolittle deserves to go today over stan actually assuming glitch is legit, I think stan will provide more AI stuff as it goes on and certain stuff is making me question my SR

i told you im not planning to effort at this stage of the game for a variety of reasons

Are you willing to share the nature of these reasons?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I have a soft clean on Glitch.
Stop voting him.

Soft innos suck.
UNVOTE:

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why can't this game just be easy~

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Stan1ey
I can't vote Glitch, i can't vote MM.
You're my last hope Stan1ey.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Jackson. Can you talk normal.

He's an AUSSIE. Since when do people "speak normal" in the land down under?

˙ǝɯ llǝʇ no⅄

[NorwegianboyEE]

A50, why did you create so much confusion with faking to be the target of a gunsmith?

[NorwegianboyEE]

And Siteflaking semi-cleared them

What?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh, i misread that. I thought they claimed that "because Glitch siteflaked from the site they're semi-cleared"
Lol i'm stupid and got confused.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: DDL
How about you participate now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

We’re in day 2 on page 134 and he has no reads.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hot takes, get your hot takes right here.
Fresh out of the oven.
It’s the trendy vote that all the COOL people are doing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

But you’re here to simplify it for me. :>

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hold up how does MM NKing someone help us figure out if MM is vig or scum??

If there are 2 kills instead of one.
But there are also potentially mafia roleblockers that can mess it up.
The brilliant thing though is that unless mafia has a doctir then the real vig will just shoot a fake claiming scum!MM.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Having a PR is NOT an excuse to play like shit.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Is there an disadvantage to just having a mass claim at this point? There are so many PR claims that are vague and scum might be hiding behind. It’s better to just have everyone claim in sequence and then we can setup spec?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Pros is that town can synchronize PR’s to make the optimal decisions. And we’d never accidentally lynch an unclaimed PR like 72 again.
Cons is that scum will know what PR’s town have and plan accordingly.

[NorwegianboyEE]

But it might make it harder for mafia to blend in.
It’s just an idea though.

[NorwegianboyEE]

We can do it tommorow if we mislim today yeah.
DDL should do something more than chastise people for wagoning him while doing literally nothing himself though.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Okay I'm tired of outing our PRs.

VOTE: stan1ey

JV is also such scum here

Twee twee.
Mass claim makes all ur problems go away.
Mm hmm *Snaps fingers*

[NorwegianboyEE]

Right i forgot to UNVOTE:
So where we going next.
Since we have like 50 PR claims i suggest we go for a mass claim.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I oppose mass claim.

Oh great.
The biggest mysterious and scummy PR claimant opposes it.
Good.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Ydrasse

THIS IS L-1

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hmm. You passed my super brainy and epic gamer test.
UNVOTE:

[NorwegianboyEE]

100% a massclaim is not the move here

hey norway wanna do stan or JV with us

Oki.
VOTE: Stan1ey
Mass claim tommorow? Or at least depending on flips.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think this is a very confused gamestate scum thrives in so it’s better for us to clear this mess by having the mass claim today.
I won’t argue adamantly about it if people wanna wait until tommorow, but i think we’d have a higher chance of actually lynching scum if we do early mass claim.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If we’re doing it, Glitch should claim first because he’s the most suspicious. And if he’s scum i don’t want him to look at all other town PR claims and plan his own claim accordingly.

[NorwegianboyEE]

JV are you gated?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah, if you’re gated it means you have restriction like novice/even-night etc.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@JacksonVirgo
The reason you suspect DDL is fake claiming is because his role isn’t likely to be in the same setup as your role is?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ur gonna have to claim buddy. I wanna know if your suspicion on DDL is not unfounded.
If it’s suspicious then i’ll probably agree with you that DDL needs to go. He doesn’t have much going for him other than that claim.

[NorwegianboyEE]

A50 going apeshit.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I thought mod already clarified there’s been no lynch yet?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hm. Interesting.
I’m fine with a DDL lynch.
It would be strange for scum!Jackson to CC a town PR claim like that. And having two cops both get results on N2 seems unlikely. +DDL is scummy.
VOTE: DrDoLittle

[NorwegianboyEE]

You should have argued better.

[NorwegianboyEE]

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mass claim can wait until tommorow if we all agree DDL can be the elimination today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Jeez Superbowl. Relax. I’ve only asked JV to claim because he already CC’ed DDL and i wanted to see why.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ve made nobody claim except for JV and that’s because it was necesarry to solve DDL’s alignment. And they already claimed PR anyway.
If you wanna argue against never claiming then i’ll state that i respectfully disagree and there are many times where it’s pro-town and extremely useful to do so.

[NorwegianboyEE]

*for mever claiming.
Not against.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wait... NEE is your avi a speech bubble as if it's speaking your posts? That's genius if so and I probably butchered that wording

Yeah that’s something i was going for :>

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ve made nobody claim except for JV and that’s because it was necesarry to solve DDL’s alignment. And they already claimed PR anyway.
If you wanna argue against never claiming then i’ll state that i respectfully disagree and there are many times where it’s pro-town and extremely useful to do so.

I am literally advocating for massclaim tomorrow. If this isn’t twilight we can figure out what to do for the rest of D2, but it like 95% is unless I can’t count. You have advocated for PRs to reveal themselves when it has been NOT to our benefit

Cry me a river.

[NorwegianboyEE]

He had already claimed cop.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Is this an SR on NEE then

Why so preoccupied with whether he SR’s me?
Because it looks like you’re testing the waters and it’s kinda scummy to me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

lets all calm down a bit we are finally getting somewhere we should be happy rn

Woohoo yes stanley!! You finally got some good NK info for tonight! Huge progress after this hammer!

Okay done w the salt

have you had your morning coffee yet bro?

I definitely don’t think he has.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why so preoccupied with whether he SR’s me?
Because it looks like you’re testing the waters and it’s kinda scummy to me.

I've literally said it once

superbowl SR-d you earlier like 2201

I wanted to see if the read was consistent

Ok, then i see.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That’s scary.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Don’t scumread me Superbowl nuuu.
I need a new friend since scum killed Nero.

[NorwegianboyEE]

How’s the bed treating you JV?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m not joining your horrid body horror recombination cult.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hi. I can confirm Glitch recruited me into the neighborhood.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Glitch recruited IKSF on N1 into the hood, and it doesn’t look like scum theatre. So based on that information i’m pretty sure Glitch is town.
It would be weird if Glitch was a hood recruiter and decided to target their scum partner for night 1 and have conversations with them.

[NorwegianboyEE]

was there anything that stuck out to you in the neighborhood?

That IKSF/Glitch interactions don’t look fake.

[NorwegianboyEE]

hmmmm

glitch + siteflaking + NEE? lol

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ve pushed for Glitches lynch since their claim. If they didn’t hood me and prove it’s real i would have argued for their turbo lynch today. Don’t give me that "is it scum theatre" nonsense.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Btw IKSF was trying to pocket Glitch hard in the PT. Saying shit like: "You should claim Neighborizer, they are notoriously always alligned with town!!" In the PT.
I don’t see a IKSF/Glitch SvS world here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

if the claim is real NEE is pretty much scum

want to go one of the two today

will go ISO diving to make my mind up

Why does his claim being real make me confirmed scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

For that reason, Norway HAS to be scum. There's no way around it. If I get eliminated first when i flip town y'all will know to kill off Norway. However if you believe me, vote for Norway and we can be down to 2 scum left total.

I crumbled IKSF as my pick twice in Day 2. I will go back and pull quotes when I get to my laptop later.

VOTE: Norway
Please join me.

Glitch, stop being such a fail. You got pocketed by IKSF and i’m defending you. And next thing i see while catching up is you voting me?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Stan1ey and ShellyC are my scumreads.
Would be fine with NPOM.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: NoPowerOverMe

this is today's elim

Why?
VOTE: ShellyC

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: NoPowerOverMe

this is today's elim

Also, i thought you said you were ISO diving me/Glitch to decide on which was scummier.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Glitch has weird logic, but from his notes in the PT it appears to at least be real logic. So i’m townreadinh Glitch from now on.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Glitch seems to be under the belief that the hood needed a lot of strong town players to actually become useful, hence his desperation to keep alive until at least day 4. He was trying to create a strong townblock but failed because he recruited a deepwolf. It’s a tragic but beautiful story.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also Glitch apparently wanted to recruit me because he thought i had the "influence to stop mass claiming from happening".

[NorwegianboyEE]

And IKSF kept advocating for him to recruit me for some reason.
That’s about it for the PT.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What a shakespearean twist! Glitche’s townblock, so visionary! So beloved! Crumbling apart at the foundations, flawed from day 1 at their incorrect beliefs that Nero Cain was scum and IKSF was town!
It’s the tragedy of the ages.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like i said, i highly doubt IKSF/Glitch interactions in the PT was scum theatre.
They were both arguing about the benefit of recruiting me. I don’t think they’d do something like that, at the benefit of just fooling any future hood recruits into thinking they are not SvS. Who would have such foresight? If they were SvS i’d assume they’d just argue that in the scum PT, agree, and move on.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Any future attacks on Glitch will have to go through me from now on.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Scum theater happens all the time

And this isn’t it.
Try something different. Like voting Shelly. I’m not going to fight against your lynch if you are run up, only suggest an alternative. And that alternative won’t be Glitch.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Since you're also apparently scum I don't care.

K.
If that’s all you have to say then i’m not exactly quivering in my boots.
Keep vanity wagoning.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Rather than potentially becoming a mislynch or pushing another mislynch, you could just join me in voting scum NPOM.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Glitches town because scum theater never happens, obviously.

You’re arguing STRONGLY that Glitch/IKSF was SvS because there’s a 2% chance it wasn’t TvS.
Is this really the hill you want to die on?

[NorwegianboyEE]

And now you’re voting me because i’m... stating that it wasn’t likely SvS?
Wtf is your mindset here NPOM?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm aware I have dug myself a hole because I have attacked a lot of people and my biggest advocater is dead. But maybe think about why he is dead and that he advocated me.

Your biggest advocator? Who?

[NorwegianboyEE]

All signs point to scum!gltich. You saying he is town because he wanted to recruit you doesn't make it any less so.

That’s not what i’m saying.
And why are you voting me if : "all signs point to scum Glitch"?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm aware I have dug myself a hole

This is basically what you are doing, yes.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Because you said any Glitch attacks go through you.

Fair enough.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That also makes sense for a neighborizer Glitch to say.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyway, Occams razor like Looter said. We should wagon someone outside of Glitch/me and Glitch can even prove his role by recruiting tonight.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That also makes sense for a neighborizer Glitch to say.

I should quote things...

Why would Neighborizer Glitch say that? Why would they set up a claim? No set up required if it's your role...

Let me turn that around, ehy would scum say that? It’s just one of Glitches peculiarities imo.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That reminds me, has Titus done any of the VCA they promised yet?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Join my Shelly bus!

VOTE: Shellyc

Ima actually do a case too. Once I find my notes...

Good vote fellow! Join the alliance.

[NorwegianboyEE]

[quote="In post 3820
i cant imagine glitch saying anything that will convince us not to kill him today tbh

this is why I love this game, so many twists![/quote]
Don’t forget my healthy contribution.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can’t you answer me why you scumread NPOM instead of doing this nonsense Shelly.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I just can’t handle that he chose IKS first.

I agree Glitch should explsin why he TR them.
It might make sense he’d do it since he had tunnel vision about a me/Nero team though. But that’s all i can really think of myself.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Because u lack clout brah.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I would trust Bell with my finances over NPOM.

[NorwegianboyEE]

NEE I SR NPOM for playing in quite a passive way, constantly wagoning votes, 3299 also lists a mediocre solve

I agree the solve was bad.
Idk if it’s scum bad though.

[NorwegianboyEE]

My heart.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You gave me a heart attack.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah, toss a red check on anyone. See how surprised they get.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oof, my whiplash.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Let’s force Titus to do some VCA.
VOTE: Titus

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think NPOM’s ignorance is kinda town indicative tbh. I think scum would be a little bit more up to date if they read PR claims in scum chat?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think NPOM’s ignorance is kinda town indicative tbh. I think scum would be a little bit more up to date if they read PR claims in scum chat?

it could be feigned ignorance

I don’t think his abilities are up to that level as mafia.

[NorwegianboyEE]

do you think the putting cop in townblock is TMI norway

Not really, but that’s because i already TR Jackson. So might be biased there.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Please, NPOM is lynchbait in a lot of games. Cut him some slack, i want to hear from Titus, Ydrasse, Glitch. And other players as well before i’d consider wagoning him.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh look, Stan is back to his old roots of shading.
Remind me why you’re supposed to be town again?

[NorwegianboyEE]

NEE suddenly coming to NPOM's defense

maybe stan is right

I’m asking for us to consider a lot of players. Where am i defending him?
This is the kind of shit i scumread you for.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You should, i’d rather be led by a rockstar or communist than an evil alien.

[NorwegianboyEE]

NBEE, GLitch, what kind of reads did IKSF write in your PT? did he say who he thinks is scum/town etc?

He said he townread me.
Said he was disloyal vigilante and would target A50.
Scumread MM, thought MM was more likely scum than Fwendis.
He also said "because Titus babysits me and i claimed PR, i will shoot tonight."
That’s about it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

But they do make it a lot easier.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Was that the hammer?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Is there 15 alive? If so majority is 8.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok he’s only got 4 votes. Idk why i thought it was hammer.
I think it was Bell saying good night.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Manatee, make a VC soon. I’m not even sure how many players are alive or what majority is.

[NorwegianboyEE]

READ FASTER!

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ve only got rum and sake in my food pantry.
I can’t join your gin toast. Sorry.

[NorwegianboyEE]

TRing me is always smart.
Especially when i’m scum!

[NorwegianboyEE]

Be pocketed by me!
Pleeeasseeee~

[NorwegianboyEE]

If NPOM is lynched before players i wanna hear from check in then he better be scum or i’ll be very annoyed.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I wanna know who got touched up by Fw

Do you also want to know where?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yo. That was E-1 for a short while.
Just saying that if you hammer now you acknowledge that it will be final.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Titus wheres your glorious VCA.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I want VCA to work with.

Nope, it’s right here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

wait so they're still E-2 right

Titus and Hiraki unvote so E-3

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh right, you unvoted Glitch. My bad.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So it is E-2 still.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Superbowl is dead Titus.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Btw i agree that scum can have a scum neighborizer role, but it isn’t Glitches claim that made me TR Glitch. Nor the fact that i was recruited. It’s only because I Keep Siteflaking had some natural interactions with Glitch that would be hard to fake as scum, and Glitch seemed genuinely distressed that their recruitment flipped scum.
And not in a: "Oh no my scum partner died ;(" kind of way.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hard to fake as scum theatre*

[NorwegianboyEE]

Didn’t think i’d become Glitch’s lawyer overnight.
This kinda why i love this game tho.

[NorwegianboyEE]

not dismising Norwegie but Glitch towm .no way thats theter

??

[NorwegianboyEE]

So it's currently 12v3
I think a lot of town have been confirmed at this point? So the elimination pool to choose from shouldn't be too big. Can someone make a handy list.
I'm 2 lazy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I would like to affirm that i agree with A50 that the last 3 scum are probably someone in this very playerlist (!)

[NorwegianboyEE]

GDI! You made me slip!

I meant ELIMINATED

Looks like someone will be spending the next 10 years of their life in the slammer after that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Am i the only one that find it weird that scum have only killed VT’s rather than PR claims?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah, i think the mafia prioritize killing strong town voices. Which might mean that they don’t have very strong presence themselves in the townblocks that have formed.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: ShellyC

[NorwegianboyEE]

Will probably make me look bad if he’s scum, but i think ShellyC is scummier than NPOM.

[NorwegianboyEE]

DrDolittle (10): ralph217, shellyc, superbowl9, NorwegianBoyEE, Marshmallow Marshall, I Keep Siteflaking, NoPowerOverMe, Town looter, stan1ey, JacksonVirgo (ELIMINATION!)
Glitch (2): DrDolittle, Titus
stan1ey (2): Ydrasse, Fwesnid
NoPowerOverMe (2): Almost50, Glitch, Hiraki
Ydrasse (1): Bell


Not Voting (2): stan1ey, Town looter

Ok i’m gonna do someone who’s vote here bothers me then.
VOTE: A50

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah, i think the mafia prioritize killing strong town voices. Which might mean that they don’t have very strong presence themselves in the townblocks that have formed.

i don't see the scenario where the reverse also isn't true

your only push toward that is that scum killed the person that kept shouting that out which i guess is a thing, i

guess

Does this mean you think universally townread slots like JacksonVirgo or Bell are scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Could you explain why you don't like A50's vote there?

A50 voted NPOM when DDL wagon was starting, and just stayed there. It read like a vote on the most viable Counterwagon at the time.
This only matters if NPOM is town though. But having two scum both being run up doesn't seem right when at the time there were still 5 scum alive to turn things around.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: DDL

VOTE: ddl

These votes both being right after another is too scummy to be scum. LOL.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not all players without a strong presence are scum though.

[NorwegianboyEE]

NPOM do you have any final reads or anything? Because i think you're going to be the lynch regardless, so might as well tell us what you think we should do next if you flip town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why Titus?

[NorwegianboyEE]

They haven’t even done VCA.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Planning to do something but not doing it is town... how?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I agree with most of your list, but Titus definitely isn’t "no-elimination" worthy to me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I plan to lynch scum and solve the game sometime in the future.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Titus can easily fake VCA as scum.
Just the fact that they do it or plan to do it isn’t enough for me to townbin them.
Also i disagree with your notion that all PR’s can co-exist. We’ve had 2 flipped mafia goons so far, we still have no idea what scum PR’s are.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Titus being put into "no elimination" pile for: "effort to do VCA" is such a bullshit read.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It might very well be that Titus is town and Shelly just TMI’d there.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: DDL

VOTE: ddl

These votes both being right after another is too scummy to be scum. LOL.

So you're thinking A50 is twtbw?

What is twtbw?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh.
...I still don’t get what you mean.

[NorwegianboyEE]

No. I’m not really townreading A50 right now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Where has he been TSTBS? Because i mostly just think he’s been casually scummy lately.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That has nothing to do with A50.
I was referring to NPOM’s vote being TSTBS in that quote.

[NorwegianboyEE]

*Slaps JacksonVirgo on the back of the head*

[NorwegianboyEE]

I was stating that scum!IKSF putting in an blind vote, and then scum!NPOM immediately putting in another blind vote afterwards. Would be too scummy to be scum for them if they were buddies.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think other players have a higher chance to flip scum than NPOM. But i do not expressively townread him. I’ve made clear my position on the wagon since it’s forming. That i will suggest alternatives but not expressively fight against it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

To put it bluntly, do i think NPOM has been the towniest player in the universe? No.
Do i think players like A50 and Shelly should be put under more scrutiny than him? Yes.

[NorwegianboyEE]

HAVE I NOT MADE MYSELF CLEAR?!

[NorwegianboyEE]

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok but MM, can you not.
Everyone be like: "he’s not rly town" when they scumread me and everytime it’s literally the towniest game i’ve played in existence that they’re looking at.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@NEE, could you link a recent scum-game?

Just look for one. Like large 228 or something. Think i was scum in that one.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yes, jump into my pocket MM.
Soon i’ve fooled you all.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm still alive? How disappointing.

Did you want to die?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also I was on the ddl wagon.

Well. IKSF also was on the DDL wagon. Before you even.
So i don't see how that clears you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't need to. I'm town and it should be obvious if you read Superbowls iso and death.

Can you elaborate on this though?

[NorwegianboyEE]

@NPOM
I checked Superbowl's ISO and he didn't exactly townread you all that strongly, unless i missed something important you can point out it's not exactly a strong proof why his death proves you're not scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What is there to take from it? He was a VT and never explained his reason why he didn't scumread you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

"Guys, trust me. A dead VT said they had a reason to not scumread me! That makes me town!"

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you're town here then you've defended yourself in the worst way possible.
No offense dude.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you're town here then you've defended yourself in the worst way possible.
No offense dude.

What would be the benefits to this approach for scum NPOM?

There wouldn't be benefit as either alignment, it's just kinda bad.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m super weak to aTe. So this isn’t really my strong suit.

It could just be resigned scum, i have seen mafia players be butthurt about being wagoned.
Either way i don't think we're getting away from this eliminiation with the way NPOM's been playing.
I would be ok with someone just hammering so we can conclude if he's town/scum and move on.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Me too. Pull the trigger already.

NPOM, if you’re scum you realize, giving you what you want isn’t in my interest.

What?

[NorwegianboyEE]

If he’s scum he’s trying to push us to night phase early for some reason.
If he’s town he’s asking me to play against my win condition.

Can't he just self-vote for that?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Making me regret i didn’t push A50 harder earlier.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Making me regret i didn’t push A50 harder earlier.

Are you leaning for A50 than NPOM rn?

Yeah.
Voting no lynch is one of those dumb things town do.
I’m pretty sure scum is outside NPOM and A50 has been acting suspicious with their posts lately.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Scummy things A50 has done:

- Support the wagon on NPOM but not voting. (Also chastising people for "halting the wagon". (Even though he isn’t voting himself)
A50 knows that him voting someone he knows are flipping town will make him look bad since me and NPOM’s put the spotlight on him like this. His actions don’t match up with a town mindset.
- Claiming VT for no reason. Even though he literally stated we shouldn’t wagon anyone else because they might claim PR. (By his own logic, he just made an completely anti-town move there.)
- Fake anger at me/NPOM and that he’s going to be "trolling for the rest of the game".

[NorwegianboyEE]

If he thinks me/NPOM are scum, why is he not voting NPOM? His actions make no sense as town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

P.S. Not gonna vote NPOM myself though. I can't be caught siding y Town.

What does this mean?

It means I'm going to troll for the rest of the game. I don't care anymore. I pushed NPOM & Norwee earlier, and nobody listened, and now they're pushing me too to bring the NPOM wagon to a halt and some people are starting top listen to them. I won't be bothered to try to convince anyone with anything anymore and I will act as a non-entity. You all need to get 2 more votes (I think) on NPOM soon, and without my cooperation.

"Hurr durr, i’m so bored by being scumread by the very two people i believe are mafia that i’m not even going to vote the leading wagon on one of them. Haha, this is how town plays right...?

[NorwegianboyEE]

hmmmmmm

the possibility still exists though and I'm not sure with DDL down scum would take the risk

@NEE, when was IKS claiming they'd shoot A50.

He said he wanted to do it on Sep 05, 2020 3:06 am

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh right. I’m UTC + 1

[NorwegianboyEE]

Your SPM (Songs per minute) is rapidly exceeding maximum capacity.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I can just hammer if nobody else objects.
Since there doesn't seem to be any interest in voting elsewhere today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Let's just end it.
Sorry if you are town.
VOTE: NoPowerOverMe

[NorwegianboyEE]

I agree.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This wasn't exactly a big surprising turn of events NPOM.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@MOD I am back early from V/LA!

it's twilight now
hopefully we're down to two scum left, I really believe NPOM will flip red

This feels TMI.
Cus i'm still thinking he might flip green.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If he flips red obviously^

[NorwegianboyEE]

NPOM's attitude and reaction to being hammered feels very town-flip to me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@MOD I am back early from V/LA!

it's twilight now
hopefully we're down to two scum left, I really believe NPOM will flip red

This feels TMI.
Cus i'm still thinking he might flip green.

Could you explain this read? I don't think I'm seeing it, outside of being an overconfident player.

I can explain it tommorow. Or Glitch if i die for some reason. I elaborated a bit more on my Shelly read in the hood.

[NorwegianboyEE]

powre has no reason to say hes scum cuse votes could be wrogn again

If NPOM flips red I think this is 100% green, no doubt.

I agree on that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Take this from the post-flip analyzis master.
I don’t see why’d NPOM keep posting things like: "I’m green u guys suck" if he’s actually scum here.
NPOM also seems genuinely irritated that we hammered him, and i don’t think he’s the trolling-as-scum type.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyway, if Manatee would actually announce the flip soon this would all be cleared up.
But until then, i can do nothing but spend time on things like that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Valid, but i don’t think those strategies apply to this player.
Anyway, no point arguing about this forever. I’m just gonna wait for Manatee now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

dunno why you guys think ralph will flip red tbh

I thougth i was saying the opposite.

[NorwegianboyEE]

[NorwegianboyEE]

[NorwegianboyEE]

NPOM, shut up.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ah shit, you won.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You can talk if you’ve got any fun vibes or useful info to share.
But listening to you rant about how townie you were and how much we suck is boring.