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How is that a pocket?
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I would not like to mass-claim at this point but if that's what the town decides I wouldn't hate itIn post 3376, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Is there an disadvantage to just having a mass claim at this point? There are so many PR claims that are vague and scum might be hiding behind. It’s better to just have everyone claim in sequence and then we can setup spec?-
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SAME holy shitIn post 3387, shellyc wrote:wait I thought you voted for DDL lol-
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Mainly because of what stan said
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I'm stupid as well shell lmfaoIn post 3399, stan1ey wrote:that's the 2nd time you've fell for that on the same page lool-
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I thought they were, all that fake L-1 bs confused the shit out of meIn post 3458, Glitch wrote:
No. Jackson declared intent to hammer you and asked for a claim when you were not at L1. -_-In post 3453, DrDolittle wrote:Am I dead?
I hammered for a reason that I do not want to out rn-
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Yeah I didIn post 3548, DrDolittle wrote:JV did you think the hammer was real-
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Almost 100%In post 3552, DrDolittle wrote:with how much confidence do you think im scum JV such that you are willing to hammer a cop claim-
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I don't want to claim here but I just don't believe your claim, there's not much more I can really say and I gotta go for an hour or two so sayonara.
Also it must not have been hammer since they keep posting VC's and stuff. Can voteless people be in a normal?-
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It wasn't really to you but I was unsure if multiple of the same role (more or less) can appear more than once in a normal game, this is my first real normal.In post 3579, ManateeDude wrote:In post 3578, JacksonVirgo wrote:I'd really like my question answered btwCan you reiterate your question I missed it in thread-
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I'm just going to say a portion of my ability is almost exactly the same as their claim, like an uncanny similarity, and thus I don't believe it's real. Though it's possible so I'll likely retract and see tonight assuming they weren't hammered.-
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Yeah that's their claim. I want to full-claim rn but honestly if they're hammered anyway and the mod miscounted it's a waste.In post 3610, Titus wrote:Huh? DDL claimed Novice Cop right? That seems to be the type of thing one fully CCs or doesn't.
Of course we tolerated scum siteflaking vouching for scum glitch and scum npom voting everyone and their brother while bitching about why all our PRs get outed
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How am I red 100% if DDL is green.In post 3600, shellyc wrote:depends on whether DDL is real novice cop
if DDL is green jackson is so red-
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Yeah scum is almost definitely in those 5 (ignoring the lynched PR).In post 3619, Titus wrote:
Siteflaking - Soft PR claim to protect Glitch from having to confirmIn post 3617, JacksonVirgo wrote:And again, how likely it is the we wagoned 5 PR's in a row.
Glitch - PR claim
Fwesnid - PR claim
Titus - PR claim
72offsuit - Lynched PR claim
DrDolittle - PR claim
That's where your scum is.-
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Yeah I did and I don't regret it because I still doubt the claim, it was a really hasty decision on my behalf though.In post 3622, NoPowerOverMe wrote:
You thought it was okay to hammer a claimed cop without consulting anyone?In post 3407, JacksonVirgo wrote:Sorry if wrong but I don't believe a word of any of that.
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??In post 3626, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Sorry doesn't make it pro-town.-
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So in extension are you saying if I am green, they're red?In post 3633, shellyc wrote:Btw Jackson is claiming a cop of some sort??
You're very red if they are green,since your claim disproves the other claim from DDL-
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I don't think they assumed it, I think they just suggested it as a possibilityIn post 3640, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Titus assuming all truth telling claims knocks her down a notch on my town list.-
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I think it has already been resolves technically assuming my hammer on DDL was counted and the VC isn't reset or continues as is. Thinking back, I should have honestly waited and checked DDL at night but I acted in haste and that may have been a misplay we have to wait and see.In post 3657, stan1ey wrote:
UNVOTE: JV ok his quick hammer makes sense if this is true. has anyone ever seen a normal game with 2 cops, that's too OP for town to be legit right? the JV/DDL CC needs to be resolved first in my opinion.In post 3636, shellyc wrote:Glitch - mystery PR
Fwes - gunsmith
Titus - babysitter
72 - watcher
Nero - souped up roleblocker
MM - vengeful vig
IKS - mystery PR
DoLittle - novice cop
Jackson - mystery cop
i dont care either way when it comes to a mass claim at this point. ill happily claim my role whenever ppl want me to-
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Depending on what Glitch/IKS claims it could be that glitch isn't confirmed at all, IKS is pocketing glitch or both are scum "defending" each other. The latter I somewhat doubt because that's incredibly riskyIn post 3659, stan1ey wrote:I dont think this game is as fucked as it seems tho, there is 5 scum and I think 1 of JV or DDL has to be scum so that's 1. Glitch and IKSF, if one of these two are scum then so is the other so thats 3. if one of them is town then we have 2 confirmed PR roles and it narrows down our list. I actually think we are in a pretty decent position tbh-
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Glitch is acting scummy but is claiming a super powerful PR that's useful N4 and IKS is claiming a PR that has a semi-clear on them. Both are quite scummy, although I don't see them as a scumpair. I think personally that they're a T/SIn post 3663, shellyc wrote:
wait I don't understandIn post 3659, stan1ey wrote:Glitch and IKSF, if one of these two are scum then so is the other
why is Glitch / Siteflaking a scumpair?-
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I'm not a full copIn post 3670, shellyc wrote:what even is JV, full cop?-
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1. Sorry where did I fake the L-1? I don't remember.In post 3671, Almost50 wrote:
Jackson Virgo.In post 3581, DrDolittle wrote:I've played a grand total of 3 hours and I'm frustrated.
A50 where should my vote go?
1- HE faked the L-1
2- He says he thought it was HAMMER and still went for it AFTER YOU CLAIMED
3- He keeps feigning ignorance about Normal roles after he had been pointed out to the page on the wiki AT LEAST TWICE
4- He practically CC'd you (some may think it town indicative of him, but I say it's a desperate move bu caught scum in an attempt to take down someone before he gets buried).
2. It was hammer, it was counted by many people. And I said why
3. Oh my , I am so sorry that I am forgetful. I shall now turn my forgetful switch off, how could I have been so blind.
4. Uh, what?-
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Oh you mean the one where I replaced into the the day and got lynched, yeah I played that whole game. Fuck off dudeIn post 3673, Almost50 wrote:
What about the one I caught you BECAUSE it was a NORMAL and you claimed PGO???In post 3582, JacksonVirgo wrote:this is my first real normal.
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It was the second last day too.In post 3675, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Oh you mean the one where I replaced into the the day and got lynched, yeah I played that whole game. Fuck off dudeIn post 3673, Almost50 wrote:
What about the one I caught you BECAUSE it was a NORMAL and you claimed PGO???In post 3582, JacksonVirgo wrote:this is my first real normal.
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The game is here if anyone wants to know
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I'm not claiming yet, waiting for glitch first as NPOM (or was it bell) said.-
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Yeah, before I realised that two of almost the exact role (kinda, I'll exlain later) could appear in the one game.In post 3681, Almost50 wrote:
Same way he was 100% Red in your own viewIn post 3618, JacksonVirgo wrote:
How am I red 100% if DDL is green.In post 3600, shellyc wrote:depends on whether DDL is real novice cop
if DDL is green jackson is so red-
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Dude, the mod confirmed that two of the same role can appear. Although I do think it's unlikely my specific role is with theirs, it's not impossibleIn post 3683, shellyc wrote:well, I assume that means two Cops
two cops in a game?! bleh i don't feel that's very possible-
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They said they would recount all votes from D2 and 2 people have done so and gotten the result that I hammered. It's a bit iffy though so we shall seeIn post 3685, stan1ey wrote:Wait I thought manatee confirmed it wssnt a hammer ??-
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I remember hearing that term somewhere but I forget entirely what it means, is it like a role that has a restriction on how it's used?In post 3689, NorwegianboyEE wrote:JV are you gated?-
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Would there be harm in half-claiming? Might as well at this point since I already outted half of my claim but I just wanted to clarify a few things without full-claiming. Although I can always wait for glitch to claim like the plan
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Oh that's an interesting take, we will have to wait and see.In post 3692, Almost50 wrote:
Since the majority of the players refuse to play the game properly or even comprehensively. I think I am going to out my random thought as they occur regardless of how pro/anti-town they may be.In post 3665, stan1ey wrote:
IKSF soft claimed and said he has a clear on GlitchIn post 3663, shellyc wrote:
wait I don't understandIn post 3659, stan1ey wrote:Glitch and IKSF, if one of these two are scum then so is the other
why is Glitch / Siteflaking a scumpair?
A SOFT CLEAR could be due to a LOYAL/DISLOYAL modifier. For instance; if X is a DISLOYAL Fruit Vendor and they targeted Y, they'd have expected Y to claim they received fruit if they were Scum. In the lack of such claim they'd assume Y didn't get it, and thus assume they're town. It's SOFT because Y could still have received it but decided not to bring it up unless it was mentioned by someone else. It could also have been BLOCKED, or the target is Ascetic Scum..etc. THAT IS WHY IT IS A SOFT CLEAR.
Now I am not saying IKSF is a FV. I am saying a SOFT CLEAR on someone doesn't necessarily vindicate them, and if it's on Scum it doesn't necessarily implicate the investigator.-
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Their claim and my role are similar in an skeptical way (or whatever the word is) and I just don't see both being in the same game. If my role was slightly different I would think it would fit, although it could also be from inexerience that I am thinking this way.In post 3695, NorwegianboyEE wrote:@JacksonVirgo
The reason you suspect DDL is fake claiming is because his role isn’t likely to be in the same setup as your role is?-
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I am not entirely sure if it's better to claim now or later. Also I can't answer that question without claimingIn post 3698, stan1ey wrote:
Jackson at this point mate whats the downside to you full claiming?In post 3697, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Their claim and my role are similar in an skeptical way (or whatever the word is) and I just don't see both being in the same game. If my role was slightly different I would think it would fit, although it could also be from inexerience that I am thinking this way.In post 3695, NorwegianboyEE wrote:@JacksonVirgo
The reason you suspect DDL is fake claiming is because his role isn’t likely to be in the same setup as your role is?-
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Oh, that's just me being stupidIn post 3699, Almost50 wrote:
3356. The VC was pm the same page (3351). Nobody voted DDL in betweenIn post 3673, Almost50 wrote:
What about the one I caught you BECAUSE it was a NORMAL and you claimed PGO???In post 3582, JacksonVirgo wrote:this is my first real normal.
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Alright, they claimed a Novice Cop. Which is a cop that their first check is N2In post 3701, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Ur gonna have to claim buddy. I wanna know if your suspicion on DDL is not unfounded.
If it’s suspicious then i’ll probably agree with you that DDL needs to go. He doesn’t have much going for him other than that claim.
I'm a Odd-Night[REDACTED]+ Even-Night Cop. So another cop that has their first check on N2.
I wouldn't be this concerned about the claim, a little less, if my abilities were flipped around but considering it's the way + a second cop.
Sorry if I misplayed but seriously I don't think their claim is real.
p-edit: Stan I've already basically claimed I am somewhat of a cop so it's fine I just won't FULL-claim yet.