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[JacksonVirgo]

NPOM was townie D1 but has seriously just fell flat today. I'll give a more detailed answer soon as I'm busy rn

[JacksonVirgo]

DoLittle could very likely be scum here, might as well pressure for a claim.

VOTE: Dolittle

This is now E-1

[JacksonVirgo]

I just read dolittles iso and I agree with shelly, they're just not doing absolutely anything.

[JacksonVirgo]

do not try and pocket me

(yeah I'm paranoid about pockets)

How is that a pocket?

[JacksonVirgo]

Another vague PR claim
UNVOTE:

[JacksonVirgo]

Intent to hammer

You should probably full-claim.

[JacksonVirgo]

Is there an disadvantage to just having a mass claim at this point? There are so many PR claims that are vague and scum might be hiding behind. It’s better to just have everyone claim in sequence and then we can setup spec?

I would not like to mass-claim at this point but if that's what the town decides I wouldn't hate it

[JacksonVirgo]

Oof, that's hammer.

[JacksonVirgo]

I am mean >:)

[JacksonVirgo]

wait I thought you voted for DDL lol

SAME holy shit

[JacksonVirgo]

Another vague PR claim
UNVOTE:

Intent to hammer

You should probably full-claim.

Why the change of heart?

Mainly because of what stan said

[JacksonVirgo]

That one was a hammer, this game's a mess lol

[JacksonVirgo]

that's the 2nd time you've fell for that on the same page lool

I'm stupid as well shell lmfao

[JacksonVirgo]

Sorry if wrong but I don't believe a word of any of that.
VOTE: DoLittle

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh that wasn't hammer?

[JacksonVirgo]

Am I dead?

No. Jackson declared intent to hammer you and asked for a claim when you were not at L1. -_-

I thought they were, all that fake L-1 bs confused the shit out of me
I hammered for a reason that I do not want to out rn

[JacksonVirgo]

JV did you think the hammer was real

Yeah I did

[JacksonVirgo]

There's no way dolittle is town here with what they claimed

[JacksonVirgo]

with how much confidence do you think im scum JV such that you are willing to hammer a cop claim

Almost 100%

[JacksonVirgo]

How many investigatives usually appear in a normal, and how often do they "double" up in a game in sorts.

[JacksonVirgo]

I don't want to claim here but I just don't believe your claim, there's not much more I can really say and I gotta go for an hour or two so sayonara.

Also it must not have been hammer since they keep posting VC's and stuff. Can voteless people be in a normal?

[JacksonVirgo]

I'd really like my question answered btw

[JacksonVirgo]

I'd really like my question answered btw

Can you reiterate your question I missed it in thread

It wasn't really to you but I was unsure if multiple of the same role (more or less) can appear more than once in a normal game, this is my first real normal.

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh I keep forgetting about the wiki

[JacksonVirgo]

UNVOTE:
Fuck

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm going to be out for a few hours,

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm just going to say a portion of my ability is almost exactly the same as their claim, like an uncanny similarity, and thus I don't believe it's real. Though it's possible so I'll likely retract and see tonight assuming they weren't hammered.

[JacksonVirgo]

Huh? DDL claimed Novice Cop right? That seems to be the type of thing one fully CCs or doesn't.

Of course we tolerated scum siteflaking vouching for scum glitch and scum npom voting everyone and their brother while bitching about why all our PRs get outed

Yeah that's their claim. I want to full-claim rn but honestly if they're hammered anyway and the mod miscounted it's a waste.

I do understand the suspicion on me though, but hopefully I can clarify soon.

[JacksonVirgo]

Also having a claim where you have no N1 check when placed on E-1 on D2 is kinda unfortunate.

[JacksonVirgo]

And again, how likely it is the we wagoned 5 PR's in a row.

Glitch - PR claim
Fwesnid - PR claim
Titus - PR claim
72offsuit - Lynched PR claim
DrDolittle - PR claim

[JacksonVirgo]

depends on whether DDL is real novice cop

if DDL is green jackson is so red

How am I red 100% if DDL is green.

[JacksonVirgo]

And again, how likely it is the we wagoned 5 PR's in a row.

Glitch - PR claim
Fwesnid - PR claim
Titus - PR claim
72offsuit - Lynched PR claim
DrDolittle - PR claim

Siteflaking - Soft PR claim to protect Glitch from having to confirm

That's where your scum is.

Yeah scum is almost definitely in those 5 (ignoring the lynched PR).

[JacksonVirgo]

Though siteflake didn't claim at L-1 which was my main point but yeah

[JacksonVirgo]

Mystery PR, Gunsmith, Babysitter, Watcher (town), and two "cops" that can't act N1.

[JacksonVirgo]

Sorry if wrong but I don't believe a word of any of that.
VOTE: DoLittle

You thought it was okay to hammer a claimed cop without consulting anyone?

Yeah I did and I don't regret it because I still doubt the claim, it was a really hasty decision on my behalf though.

[JacksonVirgo]

So if it does flip town I am sorry, but yep.

[JacksonVirgo]

Sorry doesn't make it pro-town.

??

[JacksonVirgo]

bbs

[JacksonVirgo]

Btw Jackson is claiming a cop of some sort??

You're very red if they are green,

since your claim disproves the other claim from DDL

So in extension are you saying if I am green, they're red?

[JacksonVirgo]

Titus assuming all truth telling claims knocks her down a notch on my town list.

I don't think they assumed it, I think they just suggested it as a possibility

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm good with a mass-claim

[JacksonVirgo]

Glitch - mystery PR
Fwes - gunsmith
Titus - babysitter
72 - watcher
Nero - souped up roleblocker
MM - vengeful vig
IKS - mystery PR
DoLittle - novice cop
Jackson - mystery cop

UNVOTE: JV ok his quick hammer makes sense if this is true. has anyone ever seen a normal game with 2 cops, that's too OP for town to be legit right? the JV/DDL CC needs to be resolved first in my opinion.

i dont care either way when it comes to a mass claim at this point. ill happily claim my role whenever ppl want me to

I think it has already been resolves technically assuming my hammer on DDL was counted and the VC isn't reset or continues as is. Thinking back, I should have honestly waited and checked DDL at night but I acted in haste and that may have been a misplay we have to wait and see.

[JacksonVirgo]

I dont think this game is as fucked as it seems tho, there is 5 scum and I think 1 of JV or DDL has to be scum so that's 1. Glitch and IKSF, if one of these two are scum then so is the other so thats 3. if one of them is town then we have 2 confirmed PR roles and it narrows down our list. I actually think we are in a pretty decent position tbh

Depending on what Glitch/IKS claims it could be that glitch isn't confirmed at all, IKS is pocketing glitch or both are scum "defending" each other. The latter I somewhat doubt because that's incredibly risky

[JacksonVirgo]

Glitch and IKSF, if one of these two are scum then so is the other

wait I don't understand

why is Glitch / Siteflaking a scumpair?

Glitch is acting scummy but is claiming a super powerful PR that's useful N4 and IKS is claiming a PR that has a semi-clear on them. Both are quite scummy, although I don't see them as a scumpair. I think personally that they're a T/S

[JacksonVirgo]

what even is JV, full cop?

I'm not a full cop

[JacksonVirgo]

I've played a grand total of 3 hours and I'm frustrated.

A50 where should my vote go?

Jackson Virgo.

1- HE faked the L-1
2- He says he thought it was HAMMER and still went for it AFTER YOU CLAIMED
3- He keeps feigning ignorance about Normal roles after he had been pointed out to the page on the wiki AT LEAST TWICE
4- He practically CC'd you (some may think it town indicative of him, but I say it's a desperate move bu caught scum in an attempt to take down someone before he gets buried).

1. Sorry where did I fake the L-1? I don't remember.
2. It was hammer, it was counted by many people. And I said why
3. Oh my , I am so sorry that I am forgetful. I shall now turn my forgetful switch off, how could I have been so blind.
4. Uh, what?

[JacksonVirgo]

this is my first real normal.

What about the one I caught you BECAUSE it was a NORMAL and you claimed PGO???

NUKE THIS CHILD TO OUTER SPACE, PLEASE

Oh you mean the one where I replaced into the the day and got lynched, yeah I played that whole game. Fuck off dude

[JacksonVirgo]

this is my first real normal.

What about the one I caught you BECAUSE it was a NORMAL and you claimed PGO???

NUKE THIS CHILD TO OUTER SPACE, PLEASE

Oh you mean the one where I replaced into the the day and got lynched, yeah I played that whole game. Fuck off dude

It was the second last day too.

[JacksonVirgo]

I don't count that game as I barely did anything, and I said so in that game so stop pulling shit out of your ass thinking you're making points.

[JacksonVirgo]

The game is here if anyone wants to know
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83174

I'm not claiming yet, waiting for glitch first as NPOM (or was it bell) said.

[JacksonVirgo]

depends on whether DDL is real novice cop

if DDL is green jackson is so red

How am I red 100% if DDL is green.

Same way he was 100% Red in your own view

Yeah, before I realised that two of almost the exact role (kinda, I'll exlain later) could appear in the one game.

[JacksonVirgo]

well, I assume that means two Cops

two cops in a game?! bleh i don't feel that's very possible

Dude, the mod confirmed that two of the same role can appear. Although I do think it's unlikely my specific role is with theirs, it's not impossible

[JacksonVirgo]

Wait I thought manatee confirmed it wssnt a hammer ??

They said they would recount all votes from D2 and 2 people have done so and gotten the result that I hammered. It's a bit iffy though so we shall see

[JacksonVirgo]

JV are you gated?

I remember hearing that term somewhere but I forget entirely what it means, is it like a role that has a restriction on how it's used?

[JacksonVirgo]

Would there be harm in half-claiming? Might as well at this point since I already outted half of my claim but I just wanted to clarify a few things without full-claiming. Although I can always wait for glitch to claim like the plan

p-edit: Then yeah I'm gated

[JacksonVirgo]

Glitch and IKSF, if one of these two are scum then so is the other

wait I don't understand

why is Glitch / Siteflaking a scumpair?

IKSF soft claimed and said he has a clear on Glitch

Since the majority of the players refuse to play the game properly or even comprehensively. I think I am going to out my random thought as they occur regardless of how pro/anti-town they may be.

A SOFT CLEAR could be due to a LOYAL/DISLOYAL modifier. For instance; if X is a DISLOYAL Fruit Vendor and they targeted Y, they'd have expected Y to claim they received fruit if they were Scum. In the lack of such claim they'd assume Y didn't get it, and thus assume they're town. It's SOFT because Y could still have received it but decided not to bring it up unless it was mentioned by someone else. It could also have been BLOCKED, or the target is Ascetic Scum..etc. THAT IS WHY IT IS A SOFT CLEAR.

Now I am not saying IKSF is a FV. I am saying a SOFT CLEAR on someone doesn't necessarily vindicate them, and if it's on Scum it doesn't necessarily implicate the investigator.

Oh that's an interesting take, we will have to wait and see.

[JacksonVirgo]

@JacksonVirgo
The reason you suspect DDL is fake claiming is because his role isn’t likely to be in the same setup as your role is?

Their claim and my role are similar in an skeptical way (or whatever the word is) and I just don't see both being in the same game. If my role was slightly different I would think it would fit, although it could also be from inexerience that I am thinking this way.

[JacksonVirgo]

@JacksonVirgo
The reason you suspect DDL is fake claiming is because his role isn’t likely to be in the same setup as your role is?

Their claim and my role are similar in an skeptical way (or whatever the word is) and I just don't see both being in the same game. If my role was slightly different I would think it would fit, although it could also be from inexerience that I am thinking this way.

Jackson at this point mate whats the downside to you full claiming?

I am not entirely sure if it's better to claim now or later. Also I can't answer that question without claiming

[JacksonVirgo]

this is my first real normal.

What about the one I caught you BECAUSE it was a NORMAL and you claimed PGO???

NUKE THIS CHILD TO OUTER SPACE, PLEASE

3356. The VC was pm the same page (3351). Nobody voted DDL in between

Oh, that's just me being stupid

[JacksonVirgo]

Ur gonna have to claim buddy. I wanna know if your suspicion on DDL is not unfounded.
If it’s suspicious then i’ll probably agree with you that DDL needs to go. He doesn’t have much going for him other than that claim.

Alright, they claimed a Novice Cop. Which is a cop that their first check is N2
I'm a Odd-Night

[REDACTED]

+ Even-Night Cop. So another cop that has their first check on N2.

I wouldn't be this concerned about the claim, a little less, if my abilities were flipped around but considering it's the way + a second cop.
Sorry if I misplayed but seriously I don't think their claim is real.

p-edit: Stan I've already basically claimed I am somewhat of a cop so it's fine I just won't FULL-claim yet.

[JacksonVirgo]

Hm. Interesting.
I’m fine with a DDL lynch.
It would be strange for scum!Jackson to CC a town PR claim like that. And having two cops both get results on N2 seems unlikely. +DDL is scummy.
VOTE: DrDoLittle

Yeah exactly, I was trying to say that much without claiming and it was difficult lmfao

[JacksonVirgo]

You should have argued better.

Yeah, I'll get better eventually lol

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm off to bed, seeya

[JacksonVirgo]

I agree that a mass-claim would be ideal tomorrow, I think Glitch (and then IKS) should claim first as NPOM has said before (without the IKS bit)

[JacksonVirgo]

IMO I buy jackson's claim more

novice cop doesn't work with tracker and gunsmith

my vote stays on DDL

Did someone claim tracker?

[JacksonVirgo]

If there's a protective, considier being on my ass tonight thank.

[JacksonVirgo]

@super are you SRing NEE?

[JacksonVirgo]

Did someone claim tracker?

oops I meant watcher (72offsuit)

Oh alright

[JacksonVirgo]

Wait... NEE is your avi a speech bubble as if it's speaking your posts? That's genius if so and I probably butchered that wording

[JacksonVirgo]

Wait... NEE is your avi a speech bubble as if it's speaking your posts? That's genius if so and I probably butchered that wording

Yeah that’s something i was going for :>

That's genius, oml

[JacksonVirgo]

I think it's time for an avi change, brb

[JacksonVirgo]

Epic

[JacksonVirgo]

@SB9, what would be your solve aorn?

[JacksonVirgo]

Uhh ok

I HAVE NO IDEA IF THAT WAS ACTUALLY HAMMER

pedit: Jackson claimed AFTER DDL got "hammered". it was *kinda* massive

It most likely was, two people came to the same conclusion after checking votes.

[JacksonVirgo]

so right now we wait for DDL to get limmed
then wait for jackson to get killed as outed PR
then we massclaim

We could use our one outted TP to our advantage. They could wifom on me and someone scummy. If another protective exists they could also be on me. That way we could get a cop check, titus possibly cleared (if they get attacked) and another protective confirmed. Assuming titus is real that could clear three people at once.

That may be a stretch but it's what my sleep deprived mind is thinking could be a possibility to do.

[JacksonVirgo]

Wow I am so sleep deprived that I thought someone else came up with the exact same plan as mine...

Spoiler:

then realised it's me with a new avi

[JacksonVirgo]

so right now we wait for DDL to get limmed
then wait for jackson to get killed as outed PR
then we massclaim

We could use our one outted TP to our advantage. They could wifom on me and someone scummy. If another protective exists they could also be on me. That way we could get a cop check, titus possibly cleared (if they get attacked) and another protective confirmed. Assuming titus is real that could clear three people at once.

That may be a stretch but it's what my sleep deprived mind is thinking could be a possibility to do.

Pleeeease tell me you’re not saying titus targets you? If babysitter is shot you both die

Again it was just an idea. Titus can wifom, scum would have to wifom and then that wifom may be even not even a possibility of going bad if we have another doctor.

[JacksonVirgo]

What happens if a shot babysitter is healed by a doctor.

[JacksonVirgo]

Lemme wiki real quick

[JacksonVirgo]

Alright that's pretty epic, not any use to us rn tho

[JacksonVirgo]

Shouldn't ralph be prodded?

[JacksonVirgo]

Can the anime avi gang join with the kpop avi gang to overtake the mafia?

[JacksonVirgo]

HOLY SHIT I HAVE THE MOST EPIC IDEA brb

[JacksonVirgo]

It's... beautiful

[JacksonVirgo]

That’s the most beautiful thing I've seen in my whole life.

Fixed it for you

[JacksonVirgo]

OH GOD WHAT HAVE WE DONE

It's glorious I know

[JacksonVirgo]

From now on im a jacksonvirgo alt

(just don't tell the host)

[JacksonVirgo]

How’s the bed treating you JV?

Yes

[JacksonVirgo]

It's getting better and better!

[JacksonVirgo]

This whole page could be just this avi if NEE does it too lmfaooo

[JacksonVirgo]

Wait, that was siteflaking I thought it was superbowl LMFAO

[JacksonVirgo]

This is just confusing, so I'ma change the avi back

[JacksonVirgo]

Although the photoshop skills I have shown you are top notch

[JacksonVirgo]

IKS flipping wolf makes Glitch look even worse.
I think we mass-claim today, starting with Glitch.

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm going to wait a bit before outting my results

[JacksonVirgo]

gj @ yesterday's wagon! and i will humbly retract my suspicions now wrt the votes on dolittle

And people were super mad at me for hammering. Would people getting mad at me for hammering a cop when all that confusion happened possibly be ai? I'm unsure

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm going to wait a bit before outting my results

dont out your result until glitch claims, you dont want to influence what he will claim

That's the plan

[JacksonVirgo]

Jackson now town.
MM town or somehow, shot their partner.

It's possible it's a bus to solidify worse kills later on but if that's the case I think all the mafia would be newer/less experienced players.

But that's a stretch

[JacksonVirgo]

I feel so tempted to out my result and I am super salty about it but it's best not to yet.

[JacksonVirgo]

You should wait for that kinda thing Stanley.

Also, why aren’t you dead jack.

Honestly no idea, I expected to either die to maf or to babysitter

[JacksonVirgo]

Did the scum team outwifom themselves or did they just confirm that Titus is town?

Could you explain this? I think I am being dumb

[JacksonVirgo]

I'll be back soon

[JacksonVirgo]

@Titus, on me tonight. I have a plan

[JacksonVirgo]

My reads may be bad and super's may have been closer to what was accurate.

[JacksonVirgo]

I CANNOT BELIEVE yall let norway do this as the pro-town minds were asleep

STOP CLAIMING. WE MASSCLAIM TOMORROW. WHY ARE WE GIVING SCUM INFO TO NK WITH. THIS IS LIKELY TWILIGHT

Tinfoil of NEE scum but that's against my reads, although my wrong reads is also a reason I think I'm alive rn.

[JacksonVirgo]

That doesn’t make any sense since you can confirm people everyday.

No I can't?

[JacksonVirgo]

I think Bell thinks I'm a full-cop

[JacksonVirgo]

NBEE being scum is definitely not a tinfoil hat theory mate dw

Meaning you can see them as scum or you can't see them as scum?

[JacksonVirgo]

...you know, I kinda wonder where I was last day phase.

*australian confusion sounds*

[JacksonVirgo]

I got an inno/Maf-doc.

Since I'm more or less confirmed to be a {alignment} loud gunsmith that player should hold onto their town cred until they see fit.

(Ignore me tunnelling the vig last phase whoops.)

Interesting

[JacksonVirgo]

ill miss surperboel i liked him . i knew i was rite on the doc still haha . now to just find the last to

Right on the doc?

[JacksonVirgo]

I think scum definitely lies within Glitch/NPOM/A50.

[JacksonVirgo]

What's everyones read on ralph

[JacksonVirgo]

I think a worthy counterargument towards ralph would be that newb!scum may vote their buddy to distance. Though I do think occum's razor says that ralph is just town

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm claiming Town

[JacksonVirgo]

Be back soon

[JacksonVirgo]

Holy shit

I will be back to claim after family dinner and I read through. I have a lot of info and my PR has been rendered almost useless I think so I'll out it. I'll be back soon.

Waiting patiently

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Glitch

Better be a good claim

[JacksonVirgo]

@Titus, I am reiterating now please be on me

[JacksonVirgo]

@Titus, I am reiterating now please be on me

If I die assume Titus is fake

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh lol, dug up Glitch's old soft claim from way back and forgot about it...

Urgh, I am probably being erratic, and with JV this thread already has enough of that.

This post (talking about digging up Glitch quote) is why I have a wall of text quote in what looks like an entirely unrelated reply. Ignore the Glitch quote, I didn't mean to post that.

I'm erratic?

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Glitch

wtf happened to your "usefulness"

stop stalling mate

The more I think about it, the more this post bothers me.

New hot take. Shelly is scum.

Doesn't preclude Glitch scum either, as it could just be a terrible bus.

pedit: lol kinda. maybe not the right word. You post your thought process, which sometimes seems to move quickly and seemingly erratically (that could be me not understanding you though).

I don't really play by conventional means I've come to realize. I let my gut reads take more weight than reads with logic (if that makes any sense), I also find it hard to put my thoughts in words, but that's just me in general. This also leads to me being pocketed fairly easily as well. Maybe that's what you're seeing?

[JacksonVirgo]

Let's finish what we started: massclaim with full claims.

We should wait for Glitch first to see if we should or not.

[JacksonVirgo]

@MM ngl I wish you had shot glitch/NPOM/A50 lmfao. But I'll get to that later

[JacksonVirgo]

@MM ngl I wish you had shot glitch/NPOM/A50 lmfao. But I'll get to that later

Not that a scum-shot isn't good.

[JacksonVirgo]

saying the role just takes 1 minuet bug coming with fakeclaim takes ages . not good sign fore glitch

That's a good point

[JacksonVirgo]

saying the role just takes 1 minuet bug coming with fakeclaim takes ages . not good sign fore glitch

That's a good point

Though as an opposing point, if a scum was planning a strong PR claim since d1 they should have that claim by now

[JacksonVirgo]

I’ll respond to that claim when I get home, some things seem to awkwardly align with my recent tinfoil which is lowkey terrifying. NEE do you confirm though?

[JacksonVirgo]

It’s possible Glitch can be called town because they neighboured a scum, well if NEE confirms that is the case of course.
It’s also possible Glitch is scum by creating a neighbourhood with their buddy for extra distancing.

Which is more likely?

[JacksonVirgo]

What if... Glitch/IKS and NEE are all scum. That would be absolutely hilarious but extremely unlikely

[JacksonVirgo]

I think I may stick to my gut. But I'm reading NEE/Glitch as TvS aorn.

[JacksonVirgo]

Crumbing doesn't really mean that much if you had the fake-claim ready since D1 like it seems you did

[JacksonVirgo]

How would you differentiate between whether or not my claim is real or fake and I've had it ready since day one? Of course I set it up from day one to be ready to claim when I had to. That's not AI.

How does my explanation make you think scum? Also, if you flip me and see I'm town, would you elim Norway?

That's exactly my point, your crumbing isn't AI.
Although I still have to possibly re-read a few things. I'm not completely against a NEE lynch, as I believe I either said or think I said, why would you neighbour a buddy. I am not entirely sure if one, both or neither of you are scum. Fencesitting at it's finest. Although I have a strong belief that it's TvS so if we lynched either of you and flips green, I would likely check/push the other.

[JacksonVirgo]

SoD1 NEE was scummy to me
EoD1 NEE was townie to me, enough so that they were my top TR.
Although now they're kinda a nulltown, because of both neighbourhood stuff and pushing for my claim so much EoD2.

Although at this current point, I am expecting NEE to come in and confirm the neighbourhood and depending on what they say happened in it I will decide which is scummier out of the two of you. For now I'm keeping my vote here

[JacksonVirgo]

NPOM and stan are heavy pushing glitch even though there

is

a possibility they're town, I'll have to look through that.

[JacksonVirgo]

Shelly do you have a naturally cocky personality?

[JacksonVirgo]

@Glitch. Do you put people in neighbourhoods during the day or at night? I may have a big brained plan

[JacksonVirgo]

Actually that plan is bad lmfao, eh

[JacksonVirgo]

what even was the plan

It was a plan to lynch NEE today, neighbour me, I can decide whether it was theatre in the neighbourhood and lynch from there, but again it's probably just safer to lynch Glitch here I'm not sure.

[JacksonVirgo]

i feel like planning a neighbor claim from the get go isn’t the card you pull at this point so i think it’s safe to say that the neighborhood is real.

I assumed the neighbourhood is real, that does not confirm their alignment though.

[JacksonVirgo]

Why is it not the card you pull?

I think they assumed we're thinking the neighbourhood is fake

[JacksonVirgo]

Glitch recruited IKSF on N1 into the hood, and it doesn’t look like scum theatre. So based on that information i’m pretty sure Glitch is town.
It would be weird if Glitch was a hood recruiter and decided to target their scum partner for night 1 and have conversations with them.

Alright, that's enough for me for now. NEE still may be scum here, they'd be essentially forced to defend Glitch here otherwise they'd be called out by Glitch and then 1 for 1'd.

UNVOTE: Glitch

I'd be alright with a NPOM > A50 > NEE wagon. With left being more confident.


@NPOM, A50, NEE. What would be your current solve?

[JacksonVirgo]

hmmmm

glitch + siteflaking + NEE? lol

I made that joke already, no prize for second.

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm going to try to stop my hatred for naked votes.. but it just makes me go ughhhhh
VOTE: NPOM

[JacksonVirgo]

Btw IKSF was trying to pocket Glitch hard in the PT. Saying shit like: "You should claim Neighborizer, they are notoriously always alligned with town!!" In the PT.
I don’t see a IKSF/Glitch SvS world here.

Oh yeah alright I think that's a pretty solid town. We're forming a pretty epic town-core here.

Again reiterating, Titus be on me

[JacksonVirgo]

if the claim is real NEE is pretty much scum

want to go one of the two today

will go ISO diving to make my mind up

Why does his claim being real make me confirmed scum?

Glitch said that IKS wanted you put in over other's which is damning but not to the extreme that they're putting it. Maybe that's what they're getting at,

[JacksonVirgo]

Good song

[JacksonVirgo]

want >>>>> move

I found someone like me!

[JacksonVirgo]

thirsty >>>>>>>>>> want

i don’t know anymore taemin songs

Criminal >>>>>>>>> want

(but only by a little)

[JacksonVirgo]

tiger inside >>>>> all of these songs

I do not think you heard Criminal, but tiger inside is a fairly strong song.

[JacksonVirgo]

Tiger Inside >>>>>>>>> 100.

[JacksonVirgo]

every time i remember jopping exists i get a very good chuckle

Lmfao.
Tiger inside > Dynamite
(spicy take?)

@NPOM you should probably claim

[JacksonVirgo]

Stan1ey and ShellyC are my scumreads.
Would be fine with NPOM.

I can see both, more confident in NPOM/A50 tho.

[JacksonVirgo]

Did Glitch ever say that they were TRing IKS the most?
I'll look back


pedit: BTS does create some good songs, but ngl I feel other groups have been making better songs lately. Danger/Fire/DNA/BST and Fake Love are the strongest songs from them.

[JacksonVirgo]

I can't read Glitch's iso it's really hard to absorb

[JacksonVirgo]

If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

It's the worst!

[JacksonVirgo]

Yes definitely join Norway's wifom argument.

??

[JacksonVirgo]

Honestly, I don't mind a lynch within NEE/NPOM/A50/Glitch/Stanly. But some are much more likely to be town than others.

rn the scummier would be NPOM > stan > A50 > NEE > Glitch.

NPOM, restate your case on Glitch. Minus the last 3 posts

[JacksonVirgo]

Why don't the last three post count?

They do I just want them all in the same place because rn your case is a jumbled mess, either that or I'm drunk

[JacksonVirgo]

I guessI have to read your ISO

pedit: oof nevermind then

[JacksonVirgo]

Do I out my result yet? It's useless to know but

[JacksonVirgo]

I have the most posts by a landslide, I feel accomplished

[JacksonVirgo]

I guess I'll have to read NPOM's iso. Ugh. I will later I'm gonna play canasta with the girlfriend

[JacksonVirgo]

Oi Jackson, who'd you cop?

Red check on NEE

Spoiler:

jkjk, it was a wasted check since the vigi kinda killed them.

[JacksonVirgo]

Uhhh NEE is alive

Dude

[JacksonVirgo]

You gave me a heart attack.

LMFAO


sorryyyyyyyyyyyyy

[JacksonVirgo]

ohhhh

the redcheck was siteflaking whoopsies

Yeah, hence my earlier posts about my check lel

pedit: I should have yeah

[JacksonVirgo]

Fwes when you pop in next let us know who you checked

[JacksonVirgo]

@NEE, why did you have a heart attack?

[JacksonVirgo]

I kinda feel comfortable townblocking Me/Norway/Glitch/Shelly/Bell/Looter

The two people you were SRing literally a page ago is in your townblock now?

[JacksonVirgo]

I kinda feel comfortable townblocking Me/Norway/Glitch/Shelly/Bell/Looter

Why isnt MM and Jackson in there at the minimum?

Has Jackson claimed?

Pog

Imagine if this is the reason I wasn't killed last night

[JacksonVirgo]

Jackson too then.

Why am I in your townblock?

[JacksonVirgo]

Nope I actually lynched scum day 2.

Bruh.

[JacksonVirgo]

I think NPOM is scum. They just randomly townblock a cop claim because everyone is saying so not even understanding why. That's TMI at its finest

[JacksonVirgo]

I was confused on Jackson tbh I didn't remember his claim. But I wouldn't be in favor of lynching a claimed cop without a good reason.

That's FAR from a townblock. Why am I in your townblock

[JacksonVirgo]

I think NPOM is scum here trying to back out of a hole they just flew into

[JacksonVirgo]

I think NPOM is scum here trying to back out of a hole they just flew into

Does anyone see what I do, or think it's just "haha lol they making funny"

[JacksonVirgo]

Shelly are you me

[JacksonVirgo]

Ok what are your results so far.

Alright, the reason I was townblocked by a few people was since I hammered a scum's cop claim. I'm an odd-night [REDACTED] even-night cop who checked IKS last night.


NPOM just randomly townblocks a random Cop claim because everyone else was, claims they didn't know I claimed + I wasn't killed by mafia last night, says that they just townblock cop claims. That does not mix well at all in my book.

[JacksonVirgo]

Please, NPOM is lynchbait in a lot of games. Cut him some slack, i want to hear from Titus, Ydrasse, Glitch. And other players as well before i’d consider wagoning him.

I'm not willing to just throw away my reads because they're common lynchbait, but I'll consider that sure

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh look, Stan is back to his old roots of shading.
Remind me why you’re supposed to be town again?

im town leader, remember

Can we make an election?

[JacksonVirgo]

@titus again popping in to say be on me

[JacksonVirgo]

ill willingly pass the crown over to you and only you jackson

I'll take the crown if peeps agree

[JacksonVirgo]

You should, i’d rather be led by a rockstar or communist than an evil alien.

Which one is me?

[JacksonVirgo]

day vig NPOM

Legit? I don't remember reading day-vigs in the normal list

[JacksonVirgo]

pageget?

[JacksonVirgo]

Epic

[JacksonVirgo]

But they do make it a lot easier.

Indeed

[JacksonVirgo]

One more what?

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh there’s five, I keep forgetting.

So confused

[JacksonVirgo]

Was that the hammer?

Wait was it?

[JacksonVirgo]

Anyway, Occams razor like Looter said. We should wagon someone outside of Glitch/me and Glitch can even prove his role by recruiting tonight.

I've got me an idea: How about Glitch recruits me, Titus be on me, and Bell shoots her? 2 Town slots get flipped and 2 Town powers get wasted on the same night. PERFECT!

Bruh no. Titus is on me

[JacksonVirgo]

This is where I'm at:

Marshmallow Marshall - confirmed vigi
Glitch - Norwee's word, also isn't w/w with Norwee
JacksonVirgo - DrDolittle and cop claim
Ydrasse - Gunsmith inno
shellyc - both them and reaver are very townie
ralph217 - Main pusher of lapsa/dolittle, specifically lapsa interaction
Titus - Setup spec of Disloyal Roleblocker suggests this is town

Bell
NorwegianboyEE
Hiraki
Almost50
Town looter
NoPowerOverMe
Stan1ey

What specifically about the disloyal rber suggests titus is town, I don't really understand that specific point

[JacksonVirgo]

VC1.21

With 21 alive it takes 11 to eliminate[/b]

72offsuit (11):

SJReaver, Almost50, Hiraki, Titus, town looter,

I Keep Siteflaking

,

superbowl9

, Ydrasse, NoPowerOverMe, JacksonVirgo, Pickaxe Pete

(ELIMINATION!)

Titus (2):

Fwesnid,

Nero Cain

Ydrasse (2):

NorwegianboyEE,

72offsuit

NorwegianboyEE (2):

Glitch,

Dr Dolittle

DrDolittle(1):

ralph217

Fwesnid (1):

Marshmallow Marshall

Not Voting (2):

stan1ey, Bell

Mod Notes:

1. 72offsuit will be eliminated

[/color]

What should've been VC2.05

With 18 alive it takes 10 to eliminate

DrDolittle (10):

ralph217, shellyc,

superbowl9

, NorwegianBoyEE, Marshmallow Marshall,

I Keep Siteflaking

, NoPowerOverMe, Town looter, stan1ey, JacksonVirgo

(ELIMINATION!)

Glitch (2):

DrDolittle

, Titus

stan1ey (2):

Ydrasse, Fwesnid

NoPowerOverMe (2):

Almost50, Glitch, Hiraki

Ydrasse (1):

Bell

Not Voting (2):

stan1ey, Town looter

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-09-10 09:00:00)

Mod Notes:

[JacksonVirgo]

Could you explain why you don't like A50's vote there?

[JacksonVirgo]

Could you explain why you don't like A50's vote there?

A50 voted NPOM when DDL wagon was starting, and just stayed there. It read like a vote on the most viable Counterwagon at the time.
This only matters if NPOM is town though. But having two scum both being run up doesn't seem right when at the time there were still 5 scum alive to turn things around.

Ohhhhh, that makes total sense especially if DDL was going to claim a cop and thus A50 did not expect me to hammer that. Maybe the fact that they kept their "anger" if that's the right word as if it's scum having to keep progression, though that second bit may be a stretch.

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: DDL

VOTE: ddl

These votes both being right after another is too scummy to be scum. LOL.

So you're thinking A50 is twtbw?

[JacksonVirgo]

I think I have a strong presence.

I wouldn't say that, but it's much more than ralph

[JacksonVirgo]

for effort to do VCA tbh

I think all the PRs at this point might coexist

I doubt all PR claims are real, although there are two wolves dead that claimed PR so maaaybe?

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: DDL

VOTE: ddl

These votes both being right after another is too scummy to be scum. LOL.

So you're thinking A50 is twtbw?

What is twtbw?

Too wolfy to be a wolf