Large Normal 232—Sibyl's Elegy [GAME OVER]

[Almost50]

Almost50 replaces DeathNote.

Since no one seems to care to greet me...

Welcome; Monkeyman. Who is scum?

[Almost50]

@A50: I haven't read anything yet, and I am hoping someone catches me up. If not, it's going to be a while before I can give any reads.

[Almost50]

So you haven't read anything? Did you read the rules?

[Almost50]

I did take a quick look, but I may need to reread them

[Almost50]

are you schizophrenic?

ROLEFISHING!

[Almost50]

are you schizophrenic?

like Gollum maybe

Do you have something for us, my precious?

[Almost50]

VOTE: deep-city-lights
VOTE: A50
VOTE: deep-city-lights
VOTE: A50
VOTE: deep-city-lights
VOTE: A50
VOTE: deep-city-lights
VOTE: A50
VOTE: deep-city-lights
VOTE: A50

NICE. Now I know DGB is Town.

[Almost50]

Cabd is always Town even when he rolls scum.

That said, it is my understanding that he thought he was hammered? And he responded to that with 1866 (that DGB quoted above)?? If that's the case then I guess he did roll Town this time around.

[Almost50]

I think locking the thread to steal a page top is borderline mod power abuse.

lol it scared the shit out of me

That's great. Now tell us your alignment. REMEMBER that you are now shitless, so your answer has too be thruthful and accurate.

[Almost50]

monkey! people say you are a scum. what do you think about it? why did you agree to replace deathnote? what do you want from this game? when are you going to start playing? though i admit that you share your thoughts about who can be townies (dgb and cabd)

a) I don't give a banana peel how people read me here

b) I am subscribed to the thread of replacements and I try to fill in when I see a replacement request to help fellow players/mods keep the games going. I do not usually read before I replace in (and often don't even after I do ), but I do take a look at the players list to make sure I don't replace into a game with someone who doesn't like playing with me (so far I'm aware of only 2 players on MS who have me blacklisted)

c) Nothing. I may have try to do something at some point (be that solve the game or have fun) but in general I joined the game to help out The Bulge as the main reason

d) That is up to my mood (and what people are saying in thread). Sometimes I do catch something (in a skewed way I admit) and sometimes I'm just reading but nothing registers in my mind. We'll see about that

[Almost50]

A50 please can you vote for someone? You coasted through the Bending mini way too easily as scum by fencesitting and I'm still scarred

--pedit good timing - you can do it while you're here

I don't have any scum reads though. I would rather have my vote handy in case someone needed to be put @E-1 to claim and/or was already on E-1 and needed to be hammered.

[Almost50]

People I have my eye on:


blood, Mark, A50

Ooops! I took a shower earlier today, so I apologize if your eye was lost.

[Almost50]

If I flip town should you die next?

And if he flips green I should go next (I volunteer.. just to keep the meme alive)

[Almost50]

Voting himself looks like scum taunting.

I just want cabd, man

I still won't read before the point where I replaced in, but I'm letting you know I did self-vote (and actually hammer myself) as Town before (out of frustration)

[Almost50]

actually wait - mason read is not reasonable there are cops.

yeah ok etine/STD back on the table in full swing.

Who says cops can't co-exist with Masons in a Large???

[Almost50]

y is vasex frustration better than enchant

I think the former is organic while the latter is genetically engineered. I could be wrong though

[Almost50]

almost50 is lock mafia btw, just want that on the record

Wah isn't you votin' me then?

[Almost50]

iso skimmed people over the night


i think t3 spewed vasex, etine, kittytacky and enchant as town

i also think andres, marky, and kerset look very good as they were pushing T3 hard.

nero cain was chainsaw defending T3 with his attack on andres, looks horrible

strong town: vasex, andres, marky mark, kittytacky, kerset, etine, enchant
weak town: cabd, rathe
null: dunnstral, NDMath, samantha97
weak scum: windowsxp, anastasia, drippinggoofball
scum: nero cain, save the dragons

VOTE: Nero Cain

The one thing I love most about this read list is that I'm invisible.

But seriously, can you town case yourself for me before you start giving reads on others? Like, if you said something specifically that contributed directly to the T3 elimination then please quote. All I know is you were late to the party, so to speak.

[Almost50]

Opposite opinion of Dunn, I think we should be elim'ing off of yesterday's wagon.

I was thinking that too tbh, but I wanted to wait to see what my main suspects would say.

[Almost50]

Deathnote (now A50) reads as the traitor to me.

I dunno what bsee in those posts that indicate a Traitor crumb, but I think I'll enjoy the trip.

[Almost50]

Opposite opinion of Dunn, I think we should be elim'ing off of yesterday's wagon.

I was thinking that too tbh, but I wanted to wait to see what my main suspects would say.

Can you remind me of who that is

I'll give you a hint if you can keep a secret: The one I asked to town case himself.

[Almost50]

i forgot to put you there because your content is nonexistant but you're still scum

fuck off i'm not towncasing myself

Good.. good.

VOTE: bloodhail

Maybe someone else will care to town case you for me then.

[Almost50]

I like this. Specifically, posts 106 and 174 look like traitor softs to me.

I can -maybe- see how 174 could be taken that way, but I fail to see how 106 is. And why would he vote his scum buddy that early??

But, you know what? I am not about to derail your line of thought here. Just remember that -IF I am a Traitor- you don't actually need to eliminate me to win in a Normal.. (I think)

[Almost50]

I feel immense pain about that death.. I was gonna babysit her and then chose not to because I didn't want both of us to die!

So who did you target?

Bas question (regardless of your alignment). A Babysitter should not be telling in this case (where they already hinted they were using it as a protective rather than a Vig). Just my 2 cents based on having been a Babysitter recently

[Almost50]

VOTE: Vasex
First he pushed literally everyone beside T3. Once T3 fate was settled he made 180 and hoped to hide this fact. There was no single wagon that vasex wouldn't join, except for this one which flipped scum.

I really wouldn't mind a wagon on Vasex. It is part of why I was asking bloodhail to town case himself, because -although bloodhail is my top SR- he cleared most of my "other suspects" including Vasex.

[Almost50]

I like this. Specifically, posts 106 and 174 look like traitor softs to me.

I can -maybe- see how 174 could be taken that way, but I fail to see how 106 is. And why would he vote his scum buddy that early??

But, you know what? I am not about to derail your line of thought here. Just remember that -IF I am a Traitor- you don't actually need to eliminate me to win in a Normal.. (I think)

Idle votes are the mafia's handiwork right?
*places an idle vote*

Oh.. ok. I didn't see it as "idle" vote, but you're correct of that's the case.

[Almost50]

But, you know what? I am not about to derail your line of thought here. Just remember that -IF I am a Traitor- you don't actually need to eliminate me to win in a Normal.. (I think)

While correct, this does not mean it's a good idea to not go for the traitor if you suspect one.

They're still a mafia-aligned player with a vote and a voice

Based on TODAY'S POSTS ALONE, I'd be willing to bet a small amount on it being NDMath himself. (The one who made a case of my slot being the Traitor)

[Almost50]

I feel immense pain about that death.. I was gonna babysit her and then chose not to because I didn't want both of us to die!

So who did you target?

Bas question (regardless of your alignment). A Babysitter should not be telling in this case (where they already hinted they were using it as a protective rather than a Vig). Just my 2 cents based on having been a Babysitter recently

Better say it now then take to grave.

?? We did have a NIGHT KILL, so what good is it to know whom he is likely to target??

Unless -of course- you know something I don't (like, if this setup has a Serial Killer, and thus Babysitter did stop a kill and you want to know whom is NOT the SK, for example.. or maybe they stopped the MAFIA kill and you want to know who is not Mafia??)

[Almost50]

Why does that make them a traitor vs being normal faction scum

Because the case itself could be taken as a crumb for being said Traitor. Why would anyone make a case on a Traitor at the start of the day rather than look for associative tells between flipped Scum and other living players?

[Almost50]

you're scum it doesn't matter what you think

You can type that a couple of hundred times more and may stick. Keep up the good work.

[Almost50]

VOTE: Vasex
First he pushed literally everyone beside T3. Once T3 fate was settled he made 180 and hoped to hide this fact. There was no single wagon that vasex wouldn't join, except for this one which flipped scum.

vasex was literally begging people to vote T3

He was begging people to vote Kitty.

I bet, that T3 is town. It is rather difficult to figure out and this is a risky bet. I read his ISO and the important moments with him. Many times, again and again, there is not so much text.
Or he is too good mafia. Too good for the first elim, i definitely against that. At least I want to play with him more time, to see what he will say after the night, if he will be alive.

That claim... This is another question. There is a possibility that it is true: unchanged willing to elim Kitty... even talking about bp - is to avoid nk maybe, if he is a cop... But like in situation with Etine - I'm not sure about this. I can think, that it can be fake, but not necessary scummy fake... This can be complicated, especially after few other claims.
All claims in this game were weird, but Kitty has the scummiest in my opinion.

So it is better to attack the team of Kitty instead of anything else (if not Kitty).

Are you saying bloodhail has just -God forbid- told us all a LIE??

[Almost50]

i forgot to put you there because your content is nonexistant but you're still scum

fuck off i'm not towncasing myself

Good.. good.

VOTE: bloodhail

Maybe someone else will care to town case you for me then.

Bloodhail is Town btw and this needs to get blown up at some point.

Convince me or fight me

[Almost50]

I’m not doing shit. If you’re Town all you need to do is read.

Who says I need to read anything when I can sit here and make you do all the work for me?? If not, then I still get the joy of wasting your effort on convincing everyone to yeet me and then I flip Town and you still look bad because you refused to cooperate in the first place.

Let me say it one more bloody time:

I AM NOT READING ANYTHING BEFORE THE POINT WHERE I JOINED THE GAME.

Like, what happened to the good old days when people actually greeted a replace-in, thanked them for replacing into the game, and offered them a helping hand to get the game going? Sheesh!

[Almost50]

With T3 flipping mafia doc, and his cop claim turning out false, I now believe Kitty is town.

T3 has been eliminated Day 1. He was a

Mafia Cop

.

[Almost50]

But if you really want to find the case against Nero

WHERE did I bloody ask for a case on Nero? I am asking for a TOWN CASE ON BLOODHAIL. Nero is on my TRs list (actually it isn't even that big of a list).

You know what:

Rathe
KittyTacky
samantha97
Marky Mark 

mozamis

DrippingGoofball
Nero Cain 

Flavor Leaf

Cabd

These are the names I have coloured in green in my word file. Everyone else is either black or red, and that's based on posts I've read AFTER I joined the game. Bloodhail was the only slot that was coloured in DARK RED, meaning it's the strongest SR I had, and it was strengthened by how they joined the wagon of flipped Scum T3 late (when it appeared like the only viable option).

So don't give a case on Nero. I don't care for a case on Nero. I won't be voting Nero today. I want a case on bloodhail that could potentially make me not want him yeeted today, and -even less likely- make me consider his reads as serious ones, because -right now- I won't even consider his reads if I was to compromise at any given time.

Thank you very much.

[Almost50]

no to just u but bloodhail n almost50 as well

I am sus of the last 3 voters of the T3 wagon, namely Vasex, bloodhail & Enchant. I do not think they're ALL scum though, but I can see it being 2 out of the 3.

[Almost50]

A50 will you explain your town reads a little bit?

I don't think I can. They're mostly tone reads and/or based on how I expect someone to talk to me when they don't know my alignment for real.

They are not strong TRs, but I am still sorting out. For example, I moved Etine a few slots up today (3 or 4 iirc) because of the babysitter claim (which I wasn't made aware of yesterday). It could still be a Scum Babysotter, but only if we do have a Serial Killer (or a Vig) in play.

[Almost50]

A50 promised to hammer somebody, but didnt hammer t3.

Click my name.. look at the right hand side.. down.. see that link that reads

Search user's posts

? Click it. Go to page 3 (that contains all my posts on the site on that day). Do you see my first post of that session? Yup.. that's the one.. made roughly 2 hours after the final VC of D1.

So, my question is: Was I supposed to vote/hammer while not online??

But regardless of this, I can't deny that the effort itself is very Town indicative, and I might even use this catch up to update my own reads. THANK YOU for your effort.

Vasex no longer on my suspects list

Spoiler:

[Almost50]

Actually quoting this for easier access

Spoiler: Vasex Summary

T3 was a mafia cop
So i reread everything in day 1 and made notes about any suspicious or important moments, mostly connected with t3 or some other suspects. It is rather convinient, u can use it. In the end there is my conclusion who is a scum.

195 nero says t3 town because he is voted by scum xp
229 t3 thinks the tone of etine is fake
235 list of scums from etine, t3 is the first
244 ndmath thinks t3 is pocketing him
249 attack of t3 on etine for 3 rvs posts of dcl
265 andre voted t3 because t3 is complaining about being voted on rvs
268 andre is being pretty pinged by t3
287 anya thinks that t3 is defending enchant, she votes him.
301 Anya: "T3 actually feels like he's been wearing heavy clunky armour and had a defensive riot shield up from the start of this game" (maybe she wants the others not to elim t3)
303 Anya: "maybe like a wolf cop" (wow!)
306 kerset: "Why people bully T3. Is it a meme?"
307 mark: "Anya makes a very good point ref T3", but votes etine
313 kerset "Etine if you start attacking T3, people will townread you"
318 windows "I think mark might be scum here"
346 mark "T3 I could see some associatives with NDMath/Enchant but pretty nullish individually."
353 t3 "When questioned about a small thing Etine gets very defensive. Marky Mark and Nero are some trs right now."
407 xp: "etine/t3/mark"
409 cabd: red "t3,std,etine"
418 t3 after attack from dunn to std: "STD has made zero impression on me at all. I'll look at his ISO."
424 townies and scumies from std, there is no t3
426 t3 Reads:
Hard town: Marky Mark, Rathe
Town: Nero Cain
Lean town: NDMath, WindowsXP, dcl, Anya, DeathNote
Null: Vasex, Kerset, samantha, STD, DGB, Dunnstral, Arte, Andres
Lean scum: Enchant, Cabd
Scum: KittyTacky, Etine
Most of my null reads are basically people who haven't donr anything.
430 t3 "Cabd feels like a lot of noise but no content. Enchant is townreading one of my scumreads and I didn't like the framer interaction"
431 std "adding T3 to town"
438 anya "T3's hurdle jumps are a little more graceful and improved"
477 etine "Idk about T3 anymore.."
514 rathe to t3 "so u could be mafia n vasex is town"
556 arte "Marky, etine, vasex, ???, ???"
613 t3 "Etine's claim was terrible. I just don't see an actual lazy babysitter claiming lazy babysitter at e-5."
638 t3 "Dunn vs STD giving me tvt vibes."
657 rathe "vasex initial scumread on kitty was fair i guess, but i think T3 jumping on was not good"
662 rathe after vote on t3: "i can say that maybe vasex is town, but nothing has really changed for T3"
675 xp "rathe also on my scumdar"
681 t3 after votes on cabd "Cabd is only a scum lean for me, I 'm keeping my vote where it is."
704 xp "is it bad that i wanna say i wanna sheep vasex today and like basically make them town leader like i fucking trust this dude to be town 100% and they are putting in effort i am unable to really put into a large game like i hate sorting 20 other people LOL" (then samantha bookmarked this a mafia post)
712 kerset's rainbow: t3 orange
738 t3 " don't particularly like how kerset hopped on the Kitty wagon but I feel like the specific reasoning would only besomething Kerset would say in the scum chat."
804 t3 to enchant "SLIP"
805 t3 "PUTTING SOMEONE AT E1 MAKES SOMEONE CONFIRMED TOWN IF THEY ARE SCUM
BUT HOW WOULD YOU KNOW KITTY IS SCUM IF YOU ARE NOT HIS PARTNER"
818 kitty "I was a Town 1-Shot Cop"
836 std "OMG I HAVE A CAKE NEXT TO MY NAME
WORSHIP ME
by unvoting kitty and going after the real scum here, Cabd"
940 vasex "t3, u missed the question" ---- there i noticed that t3 didnt tried to explain the slip to std, who didnt get it... why t3 should explain it to his partner, right?)) If std was town, t3 needed to explain to him to make a new believer in this theory, but he even doesnt try to persuade std
966 anya agrees with kerset, that xp is mafia
991, 995, 996 dkkoba talks with cabd about roles, miller and t3... i dont really understand the sense maybe because of wrong translating
1010 mark "t3 among scums"
1019 (1 minute left) t3 " ugh you know what
vote kitty
if kitty isn't scum vote me tomorrow i'm just a 1 shot bulletproof and after everyone RANDOLY scumreading it's not like mafia will ever try to kill me"
1014 mark votes dunn
1020 mark talks smt about t3, i dont understand (what does fos mean?)
1022 xp to t3 "traitor claim?"
1023 kerset agrees woth xp about t3 traitor
1024 mark downgrades fos rather fast (fos?)
1031 std is trying to attack cabd while others attack t3 like a traitor... with caps lock!
1038 cabd to std "Weird angle here man."
1044 dunn doesnt understand why t3 is traitor but says to std "scummy"
1048 etine before vla "Just wanted to say I approve of T3 votes, even if mine is kinda old by now."
1110 nero votes enchant after votes of mark and enchant to t3 "could enchant just be scum here?"
1116 nero talks about pressure on t3
1122 dgb votes artemiana
1138 Artemiana has requested replacement.
1146 anya votes cabd after samantha's vote to t3 ; though in 1149 she says that enchant is town ; t3 has 8 votes now...
1158 t3 "I'm not a bulletproof. I'm another pr. I was quite confident Kitty and Enchant were both scum and my specific power role has reason to question Kitty's claim.
I thought Ktty was going to be limed and be mafia, so I wanted to eliminate all chances of scum going for me"
1159 t3 "I'm a night 1 and night2 Cop. I highly doubt there is another 1 shot cop."
1168 std reaction to this – he needs to reread)
1173 Enchant after caps lock attack to kitty in 1172 (AHAHA DUDE) he says: “I want to say, yes fine, elim me see me flip townie, but then lynch Kitty without hesitation as it's damn funny. He ready to admit any evidence, even if it incriminate them as well.”… then much later in the post 1347 I returned to it asking “Why not T3 ? You are voting T3, but at the same time you suggest elim you and then Kitty after you........ Why not T3? Why do you vote T3 if Kitty is scummier for you? You dont believe T3 is a traitor or a scum, arent you?”
1196 anya changes the vote to Artemiana
1198 mark's some more messages about t3
1232 anya votes kitty
1244 xp votes dgb,dgb asks then "OK so you're saying T3 is conftown?"
1247-1248 kitty votes t3, then he votes cabd with words "NVM, T3's recent posts seem kinda legit."
1259-1263 dunn "what cabd did?" (defending cabd), kitty "active lurking" (againsr cabd), std "exactly" (against cabd); btw anastasia came...
1267 Anastasia says “I think Kitty/T3 are both good police officers who want to keep our beautiful town safe. I would trust both of them.”
1278-1279 last posts of deathnote "I'd vote out both cops to be honest".
1320 t3 "Townys entrance from Ana. I would rather not vote LHF slots day1 right now."
1323 t3 "Andres has basically just been pointing out stuff mechanical.. moving to lean scum."
1325 nero “we should be picking on of arte/ana DGB or CABD to lych”
1326 nero “this is ok too.” (to elim andre), «but better cabd»
1339 t3 “The thought of limming Andres just got less appealing.”
1353 t3 after rathe vote cabd “I'm not voting Cabd today because of Kitty/Cabd interactions, i just don't see that being a bus.”
1354 anya “Anastasia is fascinating wolf”
1360 dgb is trying to focus my attack on Anastasia
1362 DGB “Yes I town read T3.”
1374 vasex noticed smth maybe important: DGB considers T3 and Enhant are townies for him , but he didn’t stop the attack between his townies to each other.
1382 std says we are tvt with DGB
1420 etine considers andre scummy
1427 etine considers deathnote scummy
1431 etine considers rathe scummy
1434 etine “I know T3 claimed cop but I think his play is still scummy.”
1440 Anastasia “Samantha null-scum”
1454 Anya votes kitty
1457 Anya “t4 is town bc why would he counterclaim kitty with that cop claim in such a bad position but everythign about kitty is howling
vasex t4 are my cities
kitty anastasia are the sheds”
1458 Enchant to Anya “Because he almost yeeted for Bulletproof claim?
Because he is highly mafia who doesh't fear nightkills?
WHY EVEN COUNTERCLAIM COP CLAIMS IF YOU CAN CHECK SOMEONE AND COUNTERCLAIM AFTER, WHAT THE LOGIC YOU USAGE”
1459 Anya “bc T4 was a wagon and going to be executed without a claim...
him claiming bulletproof so that wolves didn't kill him bc he's actually a cop makes sense and i don't think a wolf does that bc town sees lying as wolfy”
1477 Nero to DGB “I mean, you yourself know that d1 bussing/distancing is a thing. If you started to town read T3 why blank vote and not try to keep t3 from getting lynched? Being silent and not trying to keep t3 from being lynched just looks like scum that was getting off that wagon so they didn't have to be on a ml.”
1484 std votes Samantha and says “samantha's posts are vapid, empty, and sparse”. Before that Samantha recently confirmed that still thinks that xp is mafia (and Anastasia and ndmath are townies for her)
1487 vasex noticed, that Samantha was voting t3 together with xp (she had said that wouldnt do it)
1510 std and Samantha voted cabd , then t3 says cabd is hard town
1518 std “nero is so scummy now”
1537 rainbow from cabd: t3 is green because is claimed cop like kitty, the red ones are Dunn and Anastasia of course
1549 std to cabd “what the hell am i doing in the claimed people tier i thought you scumread me” (maybe this is not a pair)
1572 etine sheeps ana and votes cabd
1633 vasex: cabd maybe with enchant, and he didn’t attack his red t3, they all were with more votes
1719 t3 “DGB is null right now based on the way the wagons have formed. If Emnchantis scum then kitty is also scum, and everyone seems to wantkitty and I to survive night 1.”
1725 nero to std “god u r so scummy”
1732 t3 about Anastasia “DDepends. I do think the password case against her is pretty good.”
1733 xp “also i dont want to tie anyone to anya because anya is a strong town slot ; i think STD is a good check for a cop here.”
1748 xp “wait i thought i was voting cabd lmao”
1751 xp “T3 check DGB
Kitty check NDMath”
1790 std says about windows xp and etine “tvt”
1806 xp “change this to T3 -> Etine, Kitty->DGB i want scum to nightkill Etine if they are town<3”
1817 xp wants “T3 and Kitty acknowledge their targets”
1823 mark “+1 for both claimed cops to acknowledge their targets publicly”
1864 xp “its too late you can't unvote lol its hammered.”
1865 std (leaves a message like before the possible night?) “i liked this better
T3 check DGB
Kitty check NDMath
but w/e”
1866 cabd («hammered») “I was VT”
1871 enchant about cabd “He is town for 99% now”
1899 vasex about xp “these rather stupid questions remind me the first scummy i found here on forum because of similar questions” (I still agree with that)
1927 kerset suggested the idea to elim Enchant (the t3’s enemy)
1937 std votes kerset
1943 xp says to std that kerset is hard town
1982 t3 about a50/deathnote “the previous slot was pretty towny.” (btw lolwhat? Deathnote said that he would like to elim both cops, and t3 calls him townie)
1989 dgb cant vote this – the claim of cabd
2006 Anya “vasex etine windows(?????) T4 Cabd is my new city list”
2079 Andre “We had a role get run up that claimed 2 different things including a 2-Shot Cop in a game with a claimed 1-Shot Cop and they’re alive?!”
2082 xp “i think t3 had town motiviations despite the messiness tho”
2084 andre “T3 is the most blatant Scum in the game.”
2087 andre “T3 is like OBVIOUS Scum. In fact, it’s so obvious it’s completely painful to me.”
2113 andre “T3 is BLATANT Scum. Blatant.” (after votes to t3 from xp and rathe)
2114 xp “are u drunk andres lol u seem like weird”
2126 xp changes his short-time vote from T3 to Vasex (this is the first vote in new vasex's train)
2176 andres other scums “{DeathNote, SaveTheDragons, Nero Cain, WindowsXP}”
2195 ndmath votes andres and says that t3 can be with these people “Windows T3 Rathe”
2243 andre “Also @Vasex T3 didn’t claim 2-Shot Cop. They claimed N1/N2 Cop. Now, I really hope that they meant to say 2-Shot Cop, but I’m not actually sure. The Claim seems very specific to me.”
2256 std “so is "night 1/night 2" a normal modifier? or are people assuming he meant something else?”
2265 std “i think there's a difference between 2 shot cop and the role T3 claimed”
2268 t3 asks andre “Why an sr on nero?”
2281 stupid questions from std to andre “does scum!Andres admit he hates scum and that's why he's been avoiding this game so much?”
2298 Anya votes Nero
2311 T3 calls Etine like a girl: “Etine's claim was bad but with the wagon on her maes me think she is town.”
2336 Andre about T3 again…
2345 kerset “At the moment i am open for all of {Enchant, Vasex, T3} but i am pretty sure that Enchant is the only one of them that can be realistically eliminated.”
2368 after many votes on vasex t3 says “I hard tr Vasex for pushing likely scum fmpov. So unless I've been pocketed I'm not voting this.”
2369 kerset “Its fine T3! Just follow his lead then.”
2370 t3 votes vasex
2377 bulge: Vasex [9] - WindowsXP, Enchant, Marky Mark, Vasex, Save The Dragons, Kerset, Anastasia, Etine, T3 /// T3 [2] - Rathe, KittyTacky
2385 mark “T3 can you please articulate the thought process behind you going from Town!Vasex to voting him to unvoting him in such a short window? I just don't see how this makes any sense for you as either alignment”
2400 bloodhail “VOTE: T3 vasex votes are bad” and then 2405 “what happened to hard townreading vasex”
2401 Etine votes T3
2406
2422 Anastasia “I think DGB is town”, then in 2425 “I do not think DGB says this if she is mafia.”
2424 windows votes Samantha
2426-2436 windows talks and then the conclusion “People I am wanting to vote in: STD, Etine, CabD, Samantha97”
…some kind of attack from windows to std, I don’t believe it…
2521 Anya against Anastasia
2526 Anya claims mafia
2552 Anya votes Samantha with Windows hp (but she thought he is scum with samantha! Now she is not).
2557 Xp is town for Anya
2615 Enchant votes t3
2624 the attempt of Enchant to consider Etine and T3 are together because of my idea about gender (i dont believe it now, or maybe the percentage is very low)
2635 t3 votes andre
2639 nero “you know who I'd really like to get rid of? DGB.”
2653 Windows votes bloodhail with DrippingGoofball, Anya
2659 dgb “It's just a run-of-the-mill trolling scum” about bloodhail
2667 rathe “k i can vote for T3, dunnstral, deathnote, deep city lights, n cabd”
2672-2690 windows BIG POSTS TO DEFEND T3 (!!!)
2706 Enchant says HMMMMMMM about t3 was 3-4 night Cop in previous game (!!!)
2711 windows agrees to vote Enchant with me (!!!)
2712 DGB defends Enchant
2714, 2719 Enchant votes himself and gives up
2727 samantha votes t3
2732 Anya says bloodhail is afraid to leave the barn a wolf
2734 dgb says enchant will be green
2813 dgb votes t3 making 5 5 “Probability of hitting scum is low.”
2827 mark “Like I wouldn't be crying if we limmed Enchant today but I would peg them as null for me personally and I think we can do better”
2853 bloodhail “almost50 is lock mafia btw, just want that on the record”
2854 a50 tries to attack Enchant too!!!
2867 windows gives up after Anastasia talking and votes Cabd again
2873 Anya votes Andre
2921 DGB looks like he doesn’t like my vote to Cabd
2928 if it is not sarcasm, DGB tries to attack NDMath
2975 mark and kerset voted t3, it became T3 [7] - Rathe, KittyTacky, Etine, samantha97, DrippingGoofball, Marky Mark, Kerset
2978 windows says kerset is mafia!!!
2987 dgb says she can vote andre
2993 kerset shows previous game of t3
2995 xp says he didn’t know about previous role of t3, didnt notice enchant message, and even says about drunk dkkoba!
3000 Anya votes T3
3013 Anya says she also didn’t notice this info (she was in previous game of t3, where he was a 3-4 nights cop, but she died much before that) + A50 and Artemiana were in that game too!!!!
3037 dgb says that t3 did right thing if he is a cop
3053 bloodhail votes t3 “we doing T3, cool”
3065 Enchant votes t3 «I end this hysteria.”

The conclusion:
In the most dangerous moments for t3 his possible partners tried to save him, they were trying to refocus town's attention on other targets: cabd, enchant, bloodhail, even samantha and vasex.
So many scums are here: STD – Windows – Anya – A50 – DGB
This is in priority order. STD is mafia 99%. Windows 80%, Anya 70%. Etc.
Andre considered t3 mafia, but didnt vote him in the end.
A50 promised to hammer somebody, but didnt hammer t3.
If cabd is town, Anastasia can be mafia with ease, though if windows is mafia, he changed his vote from enchant because of her, so probably she is not.

Confirmed townies for me: Samantha, bloodhail, Rathe, Kerset.
Lean town: Etine, Mark, Dunn (?), Cabd (?)
Kitty is the most probable cop, but he still can be a scum, there are some chances.
Lean scum: Andre, Anastasia, Nero, NDMath
Scums: STD, Windows, Anya, A50, DGB (?)

[Almost50]

A50 is obvScumming too.

I agree. That monkey must be eliminated ASAP. But after being told to fuck off I think he also gets the right to say the same back. Nice try though.

[Almost50]

Scums: STD, Windows, Anya, A50, DGB (?)

Replace Windows with Vasex and i had similar suspects during night. :/

Alrighty then, let's see how many of you are really up to their word:

VOTE: A50

Can I get a second?

[Almost50]

Let me ask you. What kind of read did you expect to receive after not voting for entire d1?

Before I respond, let me call this: First chicken!

Next...

As for your question, a NULL would have sufficed. I didn't want to vote with not enough info. but I did say I would hammer if needed, and I would have if I was online.

[Almost50]

vasex puts my lazy prewritten opener to shame and i feel embarrassed

i might have to step things up

Second chicken.

NEXT...

[Almost50]

Btw, while doing a second reread of Vasex' wall I see he says I was in a game with T3 as a Night 3-4 Cop. I can't search T3 (too short) so I searched my games for Artemiana, and guess what? THIS happens to be the only finished game I have with Artemiana, and it sure didn't have T3 in it, nor did it have a N 3/4 Cop.

So, I guess I'd request someone kindly link me the game where I played with T3 as a N 3/4 Cop to refresh my memory. THANK YOU WHOEVER YOU ARE.

[Almost50]

Found it! Artemiana wasn't in it though. Furthermore I was long dead before T3's role was revealed. (I was killed on N3, and the game ended in N8 with a T3 flip)

P-edit: Yeah, thanks. Now where is Artemiana? And why am I assumed to have been following the game 5 cycles after I was NK'd?

[Almost50]

I mean, this really ahs nothing to do with anything.. I am just trying to understand what people assume to be true in general.

[Almost50]

Momrangal is artemiana.

That's news to me. THANK YOU (although I'm likely to forget this valuable piece of info in the next 4 hours)

[Almost50]

@Cabd: Do you have a solve yet? A partial solve? A favourite lim target?? Anything I can go by? Like, I'm not asking you to spoon feed me, but if you have a good idea of what's going on I probably could take a look and compare to my -totally worthless- reads and those of Vasex (which I also know are inaccurate because I'm dead certain at least 2 of his "scums" are town aligned, and I highly suspect a 3rd slot is also town, so 2 scums out of 5 at best)

[Almost50]

So.. a quick skim of the first half of Andres' ISO shows that he indeed was pushing T3 too hard to be scum with him. I am removing him from my suspects list (but I will still hammer him out of spite if he is ever put to E-1).

That bloodhail guy could also be town (not as confident as I am on Andres) but the same applies (i.e. I will hammer out of spite if he is ever put to E-1)

Skimming 2 ISO's is much more than I had promised myself to do, so I guess I've paid my dues for today.

[Almost50]

I had a thought on how to use my ability. I also had a thought nobody likes me and that WindowsXP called me a kid

despite being in my 20s

.

VOTE: WindowsXP Vote-worthy!

Mate, I'm almost 53 and I admit to still be a kid!

[Almost50]

Actually wait wait. He's DeathNote? Nevermind I take that back.

Just because my predecessor was DeathNote doesn't mean I rolled Kira! Like, I could still be one of the good guys (whom I forgot their names because I rolled Scum in both Death-Note-based games I played in)

[Almost50]

Alright, I checked DGB. Innocent. Godfather isn't normal right? So DGB is clear.

You

really

needed to check DGB of all players to know this?? (I guess .. maybe. DGB is indeed hard to read to many, but I recognized her as Town easily both here and in the most previous game

Team Mafia 2021 Large Normal Part 2

)

[Almost50]

What was wrong with deathnote?

Apparently you were our Traitor but we didn't get it right.

[Almost50]

Could u explain why did u choose this target? Btw i would check hum too

I was leashed. I would check Etine if I wasn't.

Oh, Right. I think I did come across that argument. NVM my comment then.

[Almost50]

Probably miller? Hm. Mafia miller?

Mafi Miller (as in GodFather) in NOT a Normal Role.

[Almost50]

what bothers me about dkkoba this game is thinking it's plausible for there to be 2 town cops even after playing like 500+ games of mafia or something

Here's a really

really

REALLY

stupid question: Which player is an alt of DkKoba? Because I double checked the OP and didn't find their name, and I know I've seen them post and are being mentioned often.

[Almost50]

WindowsXP

[4] - DrippingGoofball, bloodhail, Etine, Vasex

Dunnstral

[2] - Rathe, samantha97

These appear to be my 2 realistic options to vote right now. Both wagons consist of TRs of mine and the targets are NULL to me.

ALSO..

Almost50

[1] - Almost50

Everyone who said they wanted to vote me but didn't I officially tag as a chicken. You had your chance and you chickened out.

VOTE: Win XP

1- Larger wagon
2- My old hard drive crashed and I no longer use Win XP

[Almost50]

What was wrong with deathnote?

Apparently you were our Traitor but we didn't get it right.

A50 needs to die too

VOTE: Dunn

Changed my mind. Dunn in particular can't possibly SR me here. He knows much much much better.

[Almost50]

@samantha, re the 500 mafia game thing, ive played like 2k games of mafia but they were all open setups. Ive only been playing about a year of closed setups and less than 10 games of normals.

So THIS is DkK??? Definitely Scum if true. I've been Scum with DkK before and this looks like it.

[Almost50]

doesn't really matter if they're open or closed, the end result should be realizing 2 town cops isn't possible

unless you played a bunch of games with 2 town cops somehow?

Trust me, if Win XP is DkK they're FAKING ignorance.

[Almost50]

those r the only ones other than almost50 n cabd i dont strongly townread

Only a Man UTD fan would still suspect me at this point.

[Almost50]

What was wrong with deathnote?

Apparently you were our Traitor but we didn't get it right.

?????

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=68384

[Almost50]

Alright, I checked DGB. Innocent. Godfather isn't normal right? So DGB is clear.

You

really

needed to check DGB of all players to know this?? (I guess .. maybe. DGB is indeed hard to read to many, but I recognized her as Town easily both here and in the most previous game

Team Mafia 2021 Large Normal Part 2

)

Why weren't you saying this when people were telling the cops to check DGB

It was literally the first read I provided after replacing in:

VOTE: deep-city-lights
VOTE: A50
VOTE: deep-city-lights
VOTE: A50
VOTE: deep-city-lights
VOTE: A50
VOTE: deep-city-lights
VOTE: A50
VOTE: deep-city-lights
VOTE: A50

NICE. Now I know DGB is Town.

[Almost50]

Explain how I know better

You know me well enough and have played me most recently (from newer to older: Open 807, TM2021 Large Normal, Tenet, Open 792, Open 789, Mini 2087)

ALL OF WHICH IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS

[Almost50]

I was basically an sk not a traitor

No. You were "Second Mafia" and could win with the Main team. JasonWazza was the SK. You can't possibly have a worse memory than mine!!!

[Almost50]

Explain how I know better

You know me well enough and have played me most recently (from newer to older: Open 807, TM2021 Large Normal, Tenet, Open 792, Open 789, Mini 2087)

ALL OF WHICH IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS

OK... and what is your point? I still think your predecessor softed traitor

This post ALONE is a Scum claim to me. You said >I< (A50) needed to go, commenting on a post I was directing at Nero. I explained you have enough

recent

experience with me, and you brush that off and revert to a read on my predecessor. You KNOW this is my TOWN play, and you can't argue against that, so you are finding a way to keep me in the lim PoE because you really need some mis-yeets to try and win here.

I'm "Dunn" talking to you. My vote is locked.

[Almost50]

Not the same as arguing against the cop check

Oh, yes it is. And besides, I was not a real entity at the time, and I didn't read thoroughly. I just remembered Kitty was told to check DGB and Vassex was arguing he should not declare the target beforehand when it was brought up today.

[Almost50]

I think A50 is town

I was agreeing with you lots earlier but this is one I don't agree with! Do you think Cabd is scum still?

That's funny, cuz I most concur with Anastasia's read on 6the monkey.

[Almost50]

The post I quoted has you capitalizing Traitor and talking to nero

It looks like you're doing something weird like trying to set them up after your death

It's a DEATH NOTE JOKE, about the game DEATH NOTE, modded by KuroiX a few years ago. You KNOW WELL that I ALWAYS joke about me previous games with fellow players.

And FWIW: I am not actually a Miller either. I guess DN wanted to make a joke, or maybe had an elaborate plan to setup someone, but I am as green as grass.

[Almost50]

You KNOW this is my TOWN play, and you can't argue against that,

Really?

I don't remember having that kind of a track record reading you

Check 3812. Anastasia knows my current meta. You sure as hell played me more than she did of late.

However, you are doubling down on your claimed SR on me because you went too far in and can't back-off now, can you?

Let me ask you this: How confident are you in me flipping anything but Town? Because I am now 90-95% you are flipping NOT Town.

[Almost50]

this is mainly because a50 rolled back the miller claim which is incredibly scummy to do here seems they are afraid of a rolecop

Yes, I am afraid of a Role Cop I am asking for an Alignment Cop to guilty me instead. PERFECT LOGIC.

Win XP 100% SCUM. Dunnstral 100% Scum (by the end of that conversation with him I am that confident). I dunno if bloodhail is really bad Town or really good Scum (my ISO of him last night convinced me he might be Town).

[Almost50]

Why are you confident Dunnstral is flipping not town?

He played me 6-7 games in the past 10 months alone, and he knows me well enough than to think this is how I play Scum (FTR, your take is my NEW Scum meta, and I'm working on changing it back. The problem is this doesn't look like my OLD Scum meta either, and -as someone who plays me continuously- he should be quiet familiar of my Town/Scum play).

[Almost50]

11 votes is a lot of votes.

I should help. Idle votes are the mafia's handiwork right?

VOTE: Vote: T3

Btw, someone claimed this was an |idle" vote. Checking the VC on

the same page

though shows this:

T3 [1] - Etine

So, how can a SECOND VOTE on a wagon on PAGE FIVE be called "idle"??

Note: The way I understood ND's post is: NOT VOTING HELPS SCUM, so I'm going to do something with my vote rather than NOT VOTE.

[Almost50]

Why can't he just be bad!town?

Because he isn't. Dunn is a player with a "higher than average" read precision in my experience.

[Almost50]

Has he meta-read your slot correctly in the past games you've played with him?

Maybe, maybe not. New day new mood and fresh memory (think of me as Drew Barrymore in 50 First Dates. I know, I know. Not fair to her as I'm much better looking, but just consider the situation not the looks).

[Almost50]

Std scum
Windows scum
Andre scum
Im the best player here

Why does every other person suspect Andres AFTER I ISO'd him and decided he was probs Town?? I don't remember people bringing a SR on Andres that often when I was fighting him and calling him Scum!!

[Almost50]

i tr me

Did you read your Role PM? Or is this just a hunch?

[Almost50]

Andre had scumread t3 only before t3 had serious problems. Andre voted not t3, and he didnt show himself last days during t3 elimination. Now Andre doesnt suspect anyone except townie Nero and continues promising to read the game (Anya didnt believe in that and she is dead now). This is the end of the story for Andre.

Oh, you misunderstood my question. I am not arguing Andres' alignment. He could be Town or could be Mafia. What I am asking is why nobody backed me up when I was actively hunting him down, but when I stopped it looks like 4-5 people have explicitly expressed interest. Why now?

[Almost50]

{DGB, Kitty}
{vasex, XP, kerset, Marky, Math}
{Etine, Rath}

Not willing to touch any of those piles at least for a few days after a re-read of the game events.

You're not touching me either. Keep your distance or I'm calling the police.

[Almost50]

I think A50 is town

quick reminder
a50 and artemiana were in that game with t3 3-4 night cop (anya was also there but she is dead town; anya sr ana much)
a50 has come too late, so maybe he skipped that info, ok maybe (really?)
but artemiana was in that game and in this game
both artemiana and anastasia thought that t3 is town
now anastasia is voting std

xp doesnt want to vote std
andre doesnt want to vote std

even nero said he thinks std is town, and he thinks that the only scummy thing std done: he said that andre is town

we need to think about it
why people who knew that t3 has claimed n3-n4 cop kept silence about that?
anya had the explanation, that she died early and didnt see the roles...
artemiana cannot answer this now
a50?

Can you PLEASE REAFD THE GAME rather than SPAM IT ALL OVER? Thank you

Found it! Furthermore I was long dead before T3's role was revealed. (I was killed on N3, and the game ended in N8 with a T3 flip)

[Almost50]

Dunnstral has been killed Night 2. He was a

Mafia Informed Traitor Neighbour

.

I bloody told you so.

Also, Andres is still TOWN to me. D1 ended with both Dunn & T3 voting him. Unless the scum team was setting Andres to be the deep wolf to end game I dunno how to SR Andres at this point.

[Almost50]

Three deaths, and Dunnstral!scum.

Today is going to be lit.

Are there missed kills Night 1?

If there's and SK then there was. If it's a Vig then they could be Even Night, Novice, or decided to holster on N1.

[Almost50]

I think the Vig shot at Dunn who was being “protected” by Etine, which is why they died too. That would be my explanation. And then the Scum shot Kerset. If I had to guess.

You totally don't know how Babysitter works, do you? Babysitter is a DOCTOR, so it Dunn was shot at while Etine was on him he would NOT have died.

It's the other way around (if your theory is true). Someone shot Etine and he was on Dunnstral, so the babysitter dies and so does his target.

[Almost50]

I think the Vig shot at Dunn who was being “protected” by Etine, which is why they died too. That would be my explanation. And then the Scum shot Kerset. If I had to guess.

This makes sense. But we need to find out if the vig's shot was successful on Night 1 or not (if the shot was available).

Does it??

[Almost50]

That looks very good for A50.

Oh, no. Say it still looks bad.. please.

[Almost50]

I think the Vig shot at Dunn who was being “protected” by Etine, which is why they died too. That would be my explanation. And then the Scum shot Kerset. If I had to guess.

This makes sense. But we need to find out if the vig's shot was successful on Night 1 or not (if the shot was available).

Does it??

What I was trying to describe is whatever situation triggered the death of Etine and Kerset at the same time, with the Scum shooting amongst the two (I forgot the impact of the role). Dunn is clearly a Vig Shot.

Etine was on EITHER Dunn or Kerset. If he was on Dunn then it could be that Kerset shot Etine and was shot by Scum. If Etine was on Kerset then Scum shot Etine and Kerset shot Dunn.

Note: I don't remember if Kerset TR'd Etine or not.

[Almost50]

Like given the pressure on Dunn yesterday, the counter wagon was definitely heavy on Scum. There’s no real reason to execute outside of it just yet I guess is my thinking.

Save The Dragons [10] - Kerset, bloodhail, Anastasia,

Dunnstral

, NDMath, Nero Cain,

Etine

, KittyTacky, Vasex, Enchant

[ELIMINATION]

The players in bold are obviously suspicious, however, 5 remain alive. I'd prioritize NDmath, Nero and maybe even Enchant in that lot.

My own preference (of those on the wagon) are Vasex & Enchant. This is because they are "likely late bussers" on the T3 wagon as well.

[Almost50]

And -of course- I haven't forgot Win XP

[Almost50]

Any particular reason you are TRing A50 here Sam? I was findin git hard to get a read on that slot. Like I think its mildly weird to TR him here more than Andres.

Can you read? Like, you were in the game when I declared Dunn 100% Scum and pushed him over anyone else and stayed the course. Did you miss that?

[Almost50]

VOTE: xp

l-1 go ahead and fakeclaim

nah ill let ur partner hammer so they can tell on themselves.

Now that's tempting.

[Almost50]

I actually never gave an opinion on nero until today

you also didn't answer me

i dont care to answer people who arent reading me in good faith and refuse to use basic logic.

Basic logic doesn't clear you (or anyone else) because Dunn was a TRAITOR. <<< TRAITOR means the main team didn't know his identity. You (or anyone else including me) could have thought he was actually Town and were pushing him for a mislim. Just my 2 cents.

[Almost50]

well the reason I wanted to know is because, from my point of view, voting dunnstral isn't indicative of anything since mafia didn't know he was mafia

unless I'm missing something

+1

[Almost50]

i saw red flip and didnt read more lmao

I would have TR'd someone else for this, but coming from you it could very well be FAKE. (You should feel proud I hold your scum game to such high level of respect)

[Almost50]

I actually never gave an opinion on nero until today

you also didn't answer me

i dont care to answer people who arent reading me in good faith and refuse to use basic logic.

Basic logic doesn't clear you (or anyone else) because Dunn was a TRAITOR. <<< TRAITOR means the main team didn't know his identity. You (or anyone else including me) could have thought he was actually Town and were pushing him for a mislim. Just my 2 cents.

do u not want a townread here?

If that's your only reason to TR me then I don't want it tbh.

[Almost50]

Hi A50!

Long time no quickhammer.

I don't do that nearly as often as N_M does.

[Almost50]

Hmmm... Let me put XP

@E-1

then and see what happens.

[Almost50]

OK.. putting XP @E-1 for real

VOTE: Win XP

Refusing to claim sounds like a way to avoid being caught in a lie somehow (like, if there's a Vanilla Cop or Nea)

[Almost50]

can someone unvote so mafia doesn't hammer to get out of claims pls

I see Nero unvoted, so this is just me pseudo-responding to this: It is unproductive. XP refuses to claim anyway, so it's on him if he is Town and gets hammered. You can't force a claim out of stubborn players without putting them @E-1 AND stating intent.

[Almost50]

I was hoping I had targeted a VT N1 that I trusted so that it could verify my claim but I guess I failed at that.

Anyway, I don’t know who hasn’t claimed yet. I guess NDMath?

i have a feeling his claim will be boring

the following people have not claimed:
almost50
anastasia
enchant
vasex
bloodhail
windowsxp


drippinggoofball
nero cain

(the last 2 are cop/gunsmith cleared and dont need to claim)

I don't need to claim either. I am conf!Town by virtue of my play

[Almost50]

I don't need to claim either. I am conf!Town by virtue of my play

the point is to get a big picture, not to ask only people we suspect are mafia to claim

This argument is negated by this excerpt from the same post:

drippinggoofball
nero cain

(the last 2 are cop/gunsmith cleared and dont need to claim)

[Almost50]

almost50 you know I think you're town but I've seen a town win turn to a loss by a half-claim instead of a massclaim

also rathe is way more town than everyone and claimed already

Can I claim tomorrow then? For real. I do have a reason (although the plan may have been ruined already)

[Almost50]

XP's claim refusal tantrum is scum.

+1

[Almost50]

i have the shittiest role imaginable

Let me guess: You are obligated to play the game without an avi, and if you upload one at any time you get mod-killed.

[Almost50]

or bus driver

BD isn't NORMAL (I think)

[Almost50]

Enchant > NDMath > Cabd > bloodhail > Vasex is my solve.

Now I need someone who TRs Enchant to town!case them for me like I'm a 3 months baby monkey

VOTE: Enchant

P.S. The new day PM linked directly to the flip, so pretending not to know Rathe was killed is +++ scummy

[Almost50]

Almost50, i asked about previus check, not who he checked now.

OK, but still I need someone to convince me why you are Town here. You can try if you wish to, or you can wait for someone else to do it. I had you as a prime suspect on D1 (the reads that are usually "untampered with") and then I took you up a few notched (based on other people's reads of you).

Also, feel free to share your opinion about my lim pool. Who do you think is more likely to flip red of the other 4?

[Almost50]

If I am to sheep someone today it would be samantha > Kitty

[Almost50]

Why not Nero? Unless you really suspect mafia doctor of course.

Nero -to me- is Town, but I don't trust his reads. If I am to sheep someone they have to be a TR AND have good reads.

Samantha & Kitty were both early on the T3 wagon on D1. On D2 samantha ended the day on Dunn while Kitty was on STD (that's why sam > Kitty), and on D3 samantha was on XP (as was I) while Kitty wasn't. (That's why Kitty is sheepable here).

So, sam was right-right-wrong and Kitty was right-wrong-unknown. Now conpare that to Nero (who ended D1 on Cabd who is unflipped and then was on both Town flips on D2/D3).

Does that answer your question?

[Almost50]

i mean Sams voting cabd whom I think should prob be the days lynch but ok...

Indeed she is, Furthermore Cabd is in my own PoE, so no problem there. It is still too early for me to decide to switch to sheep-mode though with more than 13 days left in the day, so I'm in no hurry.

[Almost50]

whys cabd in your poe

You mean; other than the scummiest voting record of all?? And the total lack of impact/presence? Sure. Both his read lists look like ones I would have posted as Scum. (409 & 1537)

[Almost50]

why kitty is still alive?
what about anastasia?
what about samantha? she was the towniest for me, but xp is a scum...
i feel smth wrong with Almost50, Andresvmb and maybe Enchant, but im tired to look for reasons and with distancing reasons can be very stupid
i had only the old ones and maybe I even forgot some of them

the killing of townies should improve the gameplay for mafia team, they can become active now and work harder then before, knowing that their aim is much closer now after many town's deaths

what about mark? xp said in the beginning of the game, that mark can be scum
what was his last opinion about that?

Exactly! The Mafia should've shot all the Town in one go on N1. Maybe.. invite us all to a party and blow up the house. You're the best; Vasex. Don't ever change.

[Almost50]

VOTE: Cabd

I half-ISO'd Dunn, and he seems to talk to Cabd like 600% of the time, and has been defending him too. Add that to my previous reasons to suspect Cabd.

[Almost50]

NEROOOOOO.. come put Cabd @E-1

[Almost50]

@Vasex: I am running out of excuses for you. Really.

How do you go from "I can vote with dgb and kitty and samantha" to voting the counterwagon?

[Almost50]

And nobody of these people (dgb,kitty,sam) asked me where to vote.

You voted 5 minutes 38 seconds after you said that. Do you think that was enough time for any of them to respond??

[Almost50]

And xp is town, he asked to vote ana,nd,andre. I can vote any of them

Since when does being Town mean their reads are correct? You yourself claim to be Town and have as shitty reads as if you were a scum mastermind. I bet if we took your reads and flipped them upside down we'd would have won the game already.

[Almost50]

God! I wish I roll Vig every game I roll Town. There are players that I would shoot off the bat even if they were mod-confirmed IC at the start of the game.

[Almost50]

It's as shitty a game for you if you are Town, my friend. But you do you.

[Almost50]

oh yeah almost50 do you wanna claim today or

Is it an important issue to you? Don't you TR me anyway?

[Almost50]

I want to do the opposite of whatever Vasex wants to do. If we go down that route, maybe we have a chance for success.

There might still be a chance we end up liking each other.

[Almost50]

I sent fruit to samantha. Clearly they didn’t get it. I don’t know that I necessarily mistrust samantha’s claim - I just think that now that I’m outted, I was never going to have a chance to complete a visit. It is what it is.

At first, you had my curiosity. Now, you have my attention.

This post doesn't feel complete, so let me amend it for you..

[Almost50]

Cabd has 5 votes.VOTE: NDmath for healthy competition.

And there was I thinking I rhyme with DGB for once.

[Almost50]

Lets kill NDMath and if it is scum the next one - Andre

I dont understand mechanics, where is the fruit you sent to Samantha

Lets kill Cabd and if it is scum the next one - Vasex

I dont understand Vasex, where do you get such great ideas

[Almost50]

O am appealing to EVERYONE who TRs me to PLEASE put your votes on Cabd.

[Almost50]

What happened to "do the opposite of what Vasex wants"?

[Almost50]

FYI- marky's miller claim no longer makes sense with flipped and claimed investigative power.

How so?

VOTE: Cabd

[Almost50]

But seriously, does "town miller" make sense anymore with the only town COP power being a single 1-shotter?

Miller is NOT VANILLA. 'nough said

[Almost50]

k im off break soon and dont want this to be accidentally hammered

UNVOTE:

i retract my report on cabd, i was reaction testing

my actual report is that vasex is vanilla, but thats useless so i wanted to test cabd since people were likely going to want to vote him today. i doubted my read on him yesterday but after a reread during the night i still think he seems town

i think he had a towny reaction here and dont want to elim him

andres acted VERY awkwardly in response to me which suggests he knows i was fake guiltying a townie as well, he cant even make a real argument here because he had no idea how to respond to what was going on

VOTE: andresvmb

right now my top suspects are andres/anastasia/enchant




as for why i checked vasex: hes not in my POE but i didnt want to possibly be wrong on him, so if he was mafia PR hiding as a VT i would catch him. i would never check in my scum reads because they could easily be mafia goons so checking them is useless

UNVOTE:

Wait! Are you an alt of Almost50??

[Almost50]

I think the reaction test feels townie.

If he admits to be me then it's definitely town indictive.

[Almost50]

UNVOTE:
w8ing for almost50

No need to wait anymore. I was hoping to get NK'd at some point, but it doesn't look like it's gonna happen.

[Almost50]

almost50 can you claim pls

I just did, but if you still can't see it let me know

[Almost50]

if you crumbed something I don't know what it is

Alright:

UNVOTE:
w8ing for almost50

No need to wait anymore. I was hoping to get NK'd at some point, but it doesn't look like it's gonna happen.

I am a VT, and wanted to draw the NK by refusing to claim. (Well, the NK or the RB if existent)

[Almost50]

VOTE: Vasex

This is SCUM pretending to be ignorant. I am as sure of it as I was on Dunn now.

[Almost50]

HOW CAN U CONSIDER BLOODHAIL IS TOWN IF HE CHECKED ME A TOWN BUT U CONSIDER ME SCUM???

How can a VANILLA COP check you TOWN?? His result is you are VANILLA. Period.

[Almost50]

The strangest thing here is a50, who considers now blood town, though he was townreading andre

I TR them BOTH.

[Almost50]

I'm ok with a Vasex elim today but I'd like to hear more from A50/Marky Mark they're kind of fading into the ether.

If you have questions for me: ask away.

[Almost50]

VOTE: Vasex

[Almost50]

The Game is Over

with a Win Condition having been achieved.

Nero Cain survived to Day 6. He was a

Mafia Informed Traitor Neighbour

.
Enchant survived to Day 6. They were a

Mafia Roleblocker

.
KittyTacky survived to Day 6. He was a

Mafia Goon

.
bloodhail survived to Day 6. He was a

Mafia Goon

.

The winners of Large Normal 232 are Nero Cain, Dunnstral, Enchant, KittyTacky, T3, and bloodhail.

Congratulations

to the Mafia team! Thank you all for playing!

CONGRATULATIONS to the scum team, and especially to Nero (you totally fooled me this time) and Kitty (you were solid town in my book)

[Almost50]

I have a normal game coming soon to the Micro queue once I have a review completed. PM me if you'd be interested in reserving a spot. The game will be a flavour follow-up to this one.

Will there be 3+ traitors, lots of false negative scum for town investigatives to target and a 4 neighbourhoods, each with a scum and a 3p? Asking for a friend

3P isn't allowed in a Micro